badruns

This again huh. Really bad how quickly people eat headlines up like this.

Criticalthinker615

Occams razor tells me that he took a young girl from the streets to his home and she robbed and killed him. The plan was prob just to rob him but in her immaturity she underestimated his will to protect his property. He reaches, she panics. Then she cleans out the house because the initial intention was a robbery and she doesn't understand how bad their plan went.

5hmgKuCRU

Extreme injustice.

pixelkitteh

This is fucked up beyond belief.

crashing_this_thread

This is a bullshit story. She exectued the man and stole all his shit. She was not in danger. She was the danger.

This is not the real story.

notdivided

she was abducted and then forcibly raped- she killed one of her assailants. What are we questioning here. You're not allowed to defend yourself when your child rapist reaches for a gun??

Cc1914

Glad to hear this isn't true!

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2303460 You really should check your sources before taking up our valuable time and emotions with such a story !

carmencita

This teen has been thrown under the bus by her State and her Country. She did they only thing she could do to save her own life. She had every right to thwart of any further attacks of rape from the pedophile. She ten went to the nearest Safe Sanctuary that she knew. The police station, which imo, may have been protecting this pedo. Shameful All Around. Tennessee is a Trafficking Hub, so we know they would not stand behind a child trying to protect herself from a Pedophile.

iamlegion

in initiation of all rites from secrete organizations; you must suffer as your leader suffered in order to gain their wisdom.

  • Jesuits must suffer their gospels in order to receive holy spirit (god's light overcome darkness of world through suffer)

  • Masons must suffer their gospels in order to receive gods perspective (measure the world to understand god's hand)

  • Illuminati must suffer their gospels in order for a new star to be born (god's imagination)

new versions are bad distortions with total influence of currency or sex.

also this is why everyone act the same.

4_InquiringMinds

Why is this allowed to stay up while pertinent threads are removed?

user1212

On August 7, 2004, Brown testified she was solicited for sex by 43-year-old Johnny Mitchell Allan, who picked her up near a Sonic parking lot and drove her back to his house. There, she testified, she saw a gun cabinet in Allan's room. She said she resisted his advances until he appeared to reach under the bed. Brown said she thought he was "gonna get a gun or is gonna do something to me." She then said she took a gun out of her purse and shot Allan. During her trial, the prosecution argued that the motive for the killing was not self-defense, as Brown claimed, but rather robbery, since Brown took Allan's wallet after she shot him. She was tried as an adult and convicted of first degree murder, first degree felony murder and aggravated robbery. The convictions carried concurrent life sentences and eight additional years.

FormerBaltimoreRes

She said she resisted his advances until he appeared to reach under the bed.

NOPE

https://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2009/browncyntoiadeniseopn.html

Man was laying face down, hands over eyes, with his fingers interlaced. Based on residue he was shot execution style point blank range. The location of bullet hole in the wall also verified he was shot execution style.

No possible way he was reaching for anything. The entire story is bunk as I summarize

user1212

Wow

JastheMace

? How did she have a gun if she was a captive sex slave?

ToFat2Fish

Do you want to bring the torches or should I?

FormerBaltimoreRes

Read the ACTUAL case this woman is guilty as hell.

  • She testified to not having sex with the man she shot
  • She testified the man never undressed
  • She testified to shooting him with her own gun "she bought off the street"
  • The man died face down with his hands over his eyes
  • She did not run to the police, she was tracked down and arrested
  • She testified that she stole $172 from his wallet which the police found as well as rifles from the mans house
  • She claims she was not a prostitute
  • She claims the man picked her up at a fast food restaurant, except the mans girlfriend was going by to see him that evening at 9pm. MAKES NO SENSE.
  • She stole the victims F-150 Truck, did she go straight to the police? NOPE, she went to get people to help her finish clearing the house out.
  • She bragged to another person about shooting a man in the head for $50,000 and a truck, and asked for a ride to clean the house out.

It just goes on like this. READ THE ACTUAL SOURCE MATERIAL.

She was not a child trafficking victim. That is a fantasy story she made up after the fact. She was already getting arrested prior to MURDERING this man. You should all be ASHAMED you believed a hood rat and were ready to crucify our entire justice system, as well as call a 43 year old real estate professional with a loving girlfriend a pedophile.

I actually was upset at the potential injustice because I thought people here would do their research before lighting up the torches and grabbing the pitch forks. Because the quality of the reporting bothered me I did my own research. Of every single person here, I was the ONLY POSTER who looked the case up. Fuck you Kim Kardashian supporting low information vigilantes. If you think of yourself as an independent thinker by you knee jerk believed this story, you have a lot of self reflecting to do.

pixiesbitch

The amount of celebrities pushing this story on social media made me question it. I knew there must have been agenda

argosciv

+1!

It certainly sounded interesting on paper, I didn't look any deeper myself, sounded like something that needed eyes one way or another though. Lo and behold, now we know it's a hoax :)

Cheers for the swift response. Lol at the tards who think they trapped me here xD

commonsenseisded

I'd like to point some things out from this article I found that this one posted does not mention. It says she killed him after raping her, yet this article says he went for a gun because she was refused his advances. So which is it? The article you mentioned also doesn't mention that after she killed him with a gun in her purse. She robbed him of his wallet and guns from a gun cabinet. Even cnn tells the whole story of him picking up a prostitute in a Sonic parking lot who kills and Rob's him. Him picking some child hooker up is fucked but there's way more to this story than is lead on.

gentlemanadventurer

The abusers are just protecting each other.

IpointOutTrolls

argosciv

You're right, it is off topic, indeed, it's actually very obvious why you would bring it up - here we are, agreeing momentarily over something more important than our differences - then you try to be snide by bringing up dental shit. /slowclap for you


argosciv is a paranoid satanist narcissist blood drinker with the typical fantasies about being "special" because he is depraved. Thinks he is a "dragon" and has magical powers. Nasty creatures:

https://files.catbox.moe/34barf.PNG

https://files.catbox.moe/wn2skx.PNG

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2201527

@Cc1914

Cc1914

WHOA! That is sick! He actually thinks that blood sex magic is ok if it's consensual ?! thank you for showing me proof !

IpointOutTrolls

sorry about the malfunction. it had to have a redo

Cc1914

Lol he said that I engaged in black magic!! Did you see that?

IpointOutTrolls

argosciv

You're right, it is off topic, indeed, it's actually very obvious why you would bring it up - here we are, agreeing momentarily over something more important than our differences - then you try to be snide by bringing up dental shit. /slowclap for you


argosciv is a paranoid satanist narcissist blood drinker with the typical fantasies about being "special" because he is depraved. Thinks he is a "dragon" and has magical powers. Nasty creatures:

https://files.catbox.moe/34barf.PNG

https://files.catbox.moe/a4puih.PNG

https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2201527

@Cc1914

argosciv

Fuckin' lol. You have no idea how to read my posts xD

Have fun though

Cc1914

You rock ! Thank you . I knew there was something really off with him .

Truthseeker3000

I wonder what Kim Kardashian is doing to help this girl now? Remember when she was all over social media claiming she was wanting to help this girl, etc. More than likely just another publicity stunt. Why did she not have a jury for her trial? This is so sad and frustrating.

DrunkViking

This only proves. Dont talk to the police. Never ever no whatsoever.

Are_we_sure

Hi, this article is not a good source of facts on this case. Check out the local reports on this case http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2016/06/30/ruling-offers-hope-teens-sentenced-life-but-not-tennessee/86247118/ http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/12/06/cyntoia-brown-clemency-petition-filed-case-teen-sentenced-life-nashville-killing/926929001/

She did not kill her pimp. In fact she was living with her pimp. She killed a client who picked her up on the street. She did not say she killed him to escape this ring. She said she killed him in self defense. The cops say it was to rob him, because she then stole his wallet.

Brown has never denied her crime. She has said that she was forced into prostitution by a violent boyfriend. She believed the man who picked her up was reaching for his gun when she killed him.

“I shot him,” she said shortly after the crime. “I executed him.”

The guy reached under his bed and she shot him in the back of the head. Her claim was she thought he was reaching for a gun. Take her backstory out of it. That's not self defense in any way, in almost every court in the land that killing will be prosecuted as murder. Bring her backstory back into it. Did she try and escape? Or did she got back to her abuser and pimp? I don't know.....but these would critical questions.

there's a whole documentary on her on PBS if anyone wants to view it. http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/films/me-facing-life/

She can genuinely be a victim of child trafficking and genuinely guilty of murdering her john. They are not exclusive.

FormerBaltimoreRes

He wasn't reaching under his bed, he died face down with his hands over his eyes and fingers interlocked.

Read the actual case for the details: https://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2009/browncyntoiadeniseopn.html

You'll go WTF many times by page two.

Octoclops

she thought he was reaching for a gun

That's self defence.

murdering her john

I'm not sure you know what murder or a john is.

Oh_Well_ian

PBS ? A handpicked judge, DA, and Public Defender? Sorry, your faggot sources are pedophiles are so the fuck are you.

you will always be a fucking twat @are_we_sure

Are_we_sure

You're dumb and you have the facts of this case completely wrong.

Oh_Well_ian

you're done, faggot..

enjoy the storm

bdmthrfkr

And she's probably better off.

YamaMaya

Feminists? Anything? Nah I thought not.

think-

Hey, great idea! :-)

If only we could persuade a tiny fraction of the pussy hats to advocate parole for a woman who shot her rapist...

Seriously, anyone in touch with a women's rights organization?

Jimmycog

That is wrong on so many levels

UlyssesEMcGill

She wasn't a child.

He wasn't a pedophile.

She wasn't being trafficked.

It wasn't self defense.

Read the court documents you fucking faggots.

Us3rN4m3

I knew it had to be fake news, news explorer ? What are the details of this case ?

UlyssesEMcGill

In the court docs she admits to killing him "just to see how it feels"

djaeveloplyse

Eh, she wasn't a child when she killed the guy, but she was a child when she was abducted by the pedo ring.

UlyssesEMcGill

Pedo ring?

She's a whore with a pimp.

fuspezza

Trump should pardon her I would love that

FormerBaltimoreRes

1 President can't pardon at a federal level

Does the President have authority to grant clemency for a state conviction?

No. The President’s clemency power is conferred by Article II, Section 2, Clause 1 of the Constitution of the United States, which provides: “The President . . . shall have Power to grant Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of Impeachment.” Thus, the President’s authority to grant clemency is limited to federal offenses and offenses prosecuted by the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia in the name of the United States in the D.C. Superior Court. An offense that violates a state law is not an offense against the United States. A person who wishes to seek a pardon or a commutation of sentence for a state offense should contact the authorities of the state in which the conviction occurred. Such state authorities are typically the Governor or a state board of pardons and/or paroles, if the state government has created such a board.

2 The "victim" shot the man in the back of the head and robbed his house. Before going back to her 24 year old boyfriend at a motel room and giving him the guns she stole.

Info on the case

In 2004, Cyntoia was already a veteran of Middle Tennessee's juvenile justice system. Back then, she was living out of a room at a South Nashville extended-stay dive. Her companion was a 24-year-old drug dealer and armed robber known as "Cut-throat," who had her out on a Murfreesboro Road red-light district turning tricks for coke money.

That life reached its brutal apex on a summer night that August, when a 43-year-old real estate agent picked her up under circumstances that raise as many questions as they answer. That night, Cyntoia shot him in the back of the head and stole a couple of guns from his house. She was caught, and a jury convicted her of first-degree murder and especially aggravated robbery. At an age most kids are worrying about drivers' licenses and prom dresses, Cyntoia Brown was facing an adult criminal trial for premeditated murder.

So she was already being arrested prior to this incident. But she claims she was part of a sex ring but didn't mention it to the police. But she was willing to shoot a man in the back of the head and then go to the police, but only after robbing the mans house. This makes sense to anyone... how?

Caffine

Whoops hit delete.. Meant to edit, But yeah Trump cannot pardon her unless she was convicted in federal courts. She would need clemency from the Governor of TN.

Caffine

Trump cannot pardon her as she was convicted under state courts. It would require the Governor of Tennessee to do that.

Samsquamch

This is probably the most likely scenario for her, although presidents rarely use their pardons until they're leaving office

think-

'“You are basically taking a kid at age 14 or 15 or 16 and making a decision about the rest of their life based on who they are at that age, and they’re not developed human beings at that time,”

...says her former public defender. WTF?!

I think 'they’re not developed human beings' better applies to human traffickers and johns raping underage girls.

Her public defender also is cited saying teens are sentenced for doing something that shows bad judgement.

But her judgement was excellent.

angry_mob

yes i agree. she had the right to defend herself.

radiotastic

Shame on them they will rot in hell

ESOTERICshade

This is beyond fukd up. The judge and prosecutor should be put in prison for life, their assets stripped, and given to this girl. Fuk these people.

FormerBaltimoreRes

You sure you know all the facts? I was ready to grab the pitchforks too until I did a little reading. She robbed the house after shooting the 43 year old man in the BACK of the head. After shooting him she took a bunch of guns the man's guns to her boyfriend that she was living with, a 24 year old names "cut throat". I cannot find anything on the case itself in the media, it's all celebrities doing the faux-outrage dance.

Some more info I found. I would be very careful about jumping to conclusions and standing with Kim Kardashian.

ESOTERICshade

You sure you know all the facts?

Admittedly I didn't know some of the details when I first posted.

FormerBaltimoreRes

https://law.justia.com/cases/tennessee/court-of-criminal-appeals/2009/browncyntoiadeniseopn.html*

Here is the ACTUAL information from the case

  • She testified to not having sex with the man she shot
  • She testified to shooting him with her own gun "she bought off the street"
  • The man died face down with his hands over his eyes
  • She testified the man never undressed
  • She testified that she stole $172 from his wallet which the police found as well as rifles from the mans house
  • She did not run to the police, she was tracked down and arrested
  • She claims she was not a prostitute and although she slept at many different mens houses she never had sex with them
  • She stole the victims F-150 Truck
  • She bragged to another person about shooting a man in the head for $50,000 and a truck, and asked for a ride to clean the house out.

It just goes on like this

djaeveloplyse

They're probably part of the ring.

Cc1914

OMG !! This is outrageous .. how can we help her?

Lobotomy

Kill the judge.

hypercat

https://www.innocenceproject.org/

They also represent people who are guilty but got a shit sentence because of a bad lawyer.

2impendingdoom

Actually, that's a good point. Maybe we can send her christmas cards and other mail. show some support. And scathing letters to the judges involved. maybe we can get her a pardon.

Cc1914

That's what I was thinking ! Tons of mail! Letters to the judge by the tons!

argosciv

Share it around, get people talking... it's absolutely an outrage & people aren't likely to tolerate it... squeaky wheel gets the grease, etc...

Cc1914

just sucks that this is all we can do !

Womb_Raider

For now, educating our peers and fighting the vast, extensive propaganda is our best move. Once enough people are aware, they will see it everywhere. They will tell their friends. They will tell their children. Either this generation or the next, things will be coming to a head.

argosciv

It's more effective than some give it credit for. Sorry to prattle off old phrases and such, but, there's strength in numbers - especially when it comes to numbers of people aware of a severe miscarriage of justice.

Cc1914

Hey .. while I have your attention , this is totally off topic but , have you heard about all the people that have been poisoned from dental mercury ? I'm one of them and am undergoing heavy metal detox right now. I'm doing a survey to see if any one here has them or is experiencing any symptoms ? It's my theory that this was an intentional way to control the population. There's a documentary that I wanna watch here's the trailer https://youtu.be/pJO1C_ELvKc

argosciv

You're right, it is off topic, indeed, it's actually very obvious why you would bring it up - here we are, agreeing momentarily over something more important than our differences - then you try to be snide by bringing up dental shit. /slowclap for you

Cc1914

I didn't engage in anything like that dragon boy

Shizy

Why did you delete your comment? Hmmmmm

Cc1914

Wow what?! Really? Because I thought you were someone who was up on current events ! Lol I didn't know it would set you off WOW

Cc1914

Yes I understand fully . I've survived financially from " word of mouth" referrals . Never paid a dime for advertising .

EricKaliberhall

Sounds just like Europe from a judicial point of view... Protect those who do so much harm and cause so much suffering. Whilst silence the victims. That's how you destroy a society from the inside.

Oh_Well_ian

Pedo Cult to victims:

' you think being a slave on the outside of prison is bad.... ? '

FormerBaltimoreRes

According to sources other than Kim Kardashian she had a prior juvenile record, shot the man in the back of the head, robbed his house, and ran back to her 24 year old boyfriend named "cut throat".

tholinz

Look at the fucking justification they use for this girl:

a wave of scientific studies shows that adolescents lag behind adults in development of the parts of the brain that regulate aggression, abstract thinking, and long-term planning.

BRAIN DEVELOPMENT? Why is that a reason? This girl was being pimped out and raped daily, and she struck out at her abuser. Why aren’t we focusing on that? Fuck brain development; she shot the guy in self-defense. We shouldn’t have to make up bullshit to justify killing a serial rapist

PussySmasher6000

Who is the jew lawyer.

fusir

The point is that brain development arguments can be a solution to a broader problem. Our justice system lacks consistency and often doles out life sentences for one thing and 5 years for another when the severity of the crime can be reversed. Teens should be protected from life sentences and if a review process is necissary then that review might as well happen sooner than later. So they are hoping that the facts of this case and the sentencing can get a second opinion when a teen is involved.

The real issue is that sentencing juries are not as familiar with the case as trial juries or a judge when tried by a judge. Sentencing juries fail to consider these facts all the time. So possibily the trial jury said that she met the technical requirements of the law and therefore is guilty but hopefully won't do much time. Then the sentencing jury ignores all of that and stupidly uses the maximum sentence as a guideline simply told "this person is guilty."

Partially what is being attempted is to give teens the protections of a sentencing judge having a knowlege about how guidelines are supposed to work.

So basically if you don't plead you get thrown to this cluster fuck of a failed system I described above. So by keeping things the same we are saying that teens shouldn't have a right to try their case without getting thrown to the wolves, of a system where jurors are prevented from fully understanding what they're doing.

FormerBaltimoreRes

If the facts as presented in this article are true then I agree that the man deserved to die and the woman should be set free. However I am not seeing any evidence presented in the piece one way or the other. Given that the websites tag line is 'NewsExplorer is your OMG type newspaper" I have to ask if the information is true or not.

According to the article, when the woman was 16 she was living with her boyfriend in a motel and he was pimping her out. This type of arrangement is a common occurrence particularly for female runaways. But was there evidence she had sex with the man? Do we have evidence this was not an instance of breaking an entering gone wrong?

Furthermore, there are pictures of her in her early teens, in a brand new cheerleading outfit, smiling ear to ear on Newsweek . Are we to believe that this woman was sold into sex trafficking at a young age? It's possible, but I'd like to know more facts before getting the pitch forks.

This story is being pushed by PBS, celebrities, and the typical BLM crowd. It may be worth stepping back and asking "is this true" or whether this is the latest narrative being pushed on us.

Itsdone63

That logic doesn't even make sense for punishing her. "adolescents brains aren't fully developed for aggression, better throw her in jail for the rest of her life."

angry_mob

it's outrageous! i was thrown in jail for slapping open handed my ex-boyfriend because he had a hold of me and was shaking me like a rag doll. i developed bruises in the shapes of his fingers on my arms where he had me up off the ground. so in other words, i was jailed for self defense! i was just trying to get away. before i did he punched me in the head as hard as he could, the entire side of my head swelled up while i was sitting in jail. i was hysterical. the cops were LAUGHING with my ex when they walked up to me. it was all a big joke to them. the judge threw it out of court as a "he said, she said" thing, but the arrest is still on my record.

the fact that they are punishing this girl for self defense shows the sickness of our legal system. she was a CHILD, she should be protected from these cretins at all costs, not punished. it makes me so sick.

nameof

Absolutely!

argosciv

Oh for fuck's sake...

Typical, they fuck their brain development then use that to crucify the victim... it's a morbid day here on voat, that's for sure...

Oh_Well_ian

((( scientific studies )))

2impendingdoom

That article is so badly edited, I assume she got no jury. Sad state of affairs where the life of a pedophile is more important than his victim.

Message from justice system - don't even try to defend yourself.

spherical_cube

Guilty until proven rich. All the "just us" system cares about is billable hours.

2impendingdoom

I think you get $15 dollars a day and a sandwich but point taken. Even if you are paying a lawyer, if the other side pays more, your lawyer will sell you out.

spherical_cube

Defense, prosecution, eh, billable hours are billable hours. And prosecutors often go to work later as criminal defense attorneys. Again, billable hours, nom nom nom.