reasonedandinformed

This was exposed as a hoax. The hacker who found child porn and sent info on it to DC Police had corroboration.

Oh_Well_ian

@Vindicator

Take this down for title alone. This was NOT found in CPP files.

In fact, it looks like a fake document to intentionally undermine Pizzagate and discredit the investigation.

Vindicator

Hey OWI, thanks for the ping. I flaired it, but I'm not going to remove this. There is a great conversation happening in the Comments about the hoax hack that effectively blacklisted "pizzagate". This has sparked all kinds of connections in my mind -- and hopefully will in other peoples' -- and we have an opportunity to review what went down and uncover new stuff that just might vindicate the whole investigation. Reread the whole Comment section.

bdmthrfkr

Check out the post above by selaphiell, he seems to know what that image is.

Oh_Well_ian

I know what it is. I've known about it for over a year. It was the 'smoking gun' but was proven bogus.

bdmthrfkr

You would know better than me, as I told vindicator, I saw it and reposted it just in case it hadn't been seen before.

Oh_Well_ian

sure... we need to be careful here.

There is a concerted effort to make a false PG story go viral in a silver bullet attempt to discredit the entire investigation with the FAKE NEWS narrative.

bdmthrfkr

When Putt said that "Powerful People" were gunning for Voat I kinda felt that he had v/pizzagate in mind. I doubt that FPH pulls down that much weight.

Vindicator

EXACTLY!

selaphiell

I don't know if anybody will see this since the thread is old but I know what that is. I'm not sure if somebody saw it on /pol/ last night or they saw it here and posted it here, vice versa, etc. but I explained what it was there last night. That came out on November 23 of 2016 around 12:53 AM. It was posted about 12:20 iirc because it contained child porn and was deleted. OP didn't warn us about the CP before we clicked it sadly.

What OP had uploaded is a 7 page PDF that is 2.85MB large supposedly of a menu from We The Pizza which I think they claimed to get from "hacking" into Comet's password protected download section. I will upload pages 1, 2, and 6/7 below. Any CP is blacked out and pages 3, 4, 5, and the vast majority of 6 I don't have as they are all single pictures of little girls and blacking them out wouldn't be sufficient. Page 2 will give you the idea well enough...

https://imgur.com/a/0yuSL

My opinion on the thing is that it is real. It's amateur in quality but imagining the people making it were older and less familiar with technology that makes sense. I could see people trolling/faking shit for laughs but I cannot see them compiling and saving the child porn that was inside this PDF and then compiling it as a joke.

Vindicator

@selaphieli Thanks for that explanation. I remember the furor over the lack of CP warning. Was this originally posted to /pol/? Can we dig up an archive of the thread it went down on? I really, really want to pull the old threads on this together.

However, real CP is EXACTLY the kind of shit the nasty type of "crisis communication consultant" would put out there as part of a hoax hack to sting journalists interested in following up on the pizzagate story before it was blacklisted. Remember what we have learned since those confusing days:

  • Lawyers linked to Podesta used DCMA complaints to remove Voat from Google Search results
  • Weinstein hired ex-Mossad agents to manipulate his victims into silence (over 84 have filed complaints!)
  • Epstein's attorneys used weaponized legal tactics to compromise witnesses and intimidate S. FL prosecutors into a sweetheart plea deal
  • Deep state Clintonites attempted to defame Assange as a pedo with the fake Todd & Claire dating site
  • Hillary paid FusionGPS to create the piss dossier
  • And this very "evidence" of CP on the Comet server was used, according to @GeorgeT , below, to fool Alex Jones and Joe Biggs, extract a public renunciation from Jones, and alienate him from much of his audience -- effectively making "pizzagate" so toxic no other media would touch it and @Bigfish would have no way to spread the news if DC police ignored him.

If we could trace the origin of this PDF, we could potentially get an investigation opened for real. Do you have the links to the thread it originally appeared in?

GeorgeT

Straight out of Hostel franchize - it looks as thougj Hostel was not just fiction and it involves child torture (which cannot be shown in American cinema - how ironic)

Blacksmith21

Hostel was 100% based on real events.

lamplight

Question: Has voat pizzagate ever compiled a list of the evidence uncovered here? Should it not be gathered and sent to the Attorney General with the list of names uncovered who are engaged in this abomination? Something similar to a smartsheet (Excel spreadsheet). If nothing happens, we could make copies and distribute them everywhere we can. Enough is enough!!

Vindicator

Hey there bdmthrfkr, this is not meant to be a reflection on you in any way, but I am flairing this "Possible Disinfo" because I have spoken with the hacker who first claimed to have found zip files containing CP on the CPP server back in November ( @Bigfish ), and he says he did not see this menu when he was poking around.

I highly recommend everyone listen to his interview about it and judge for yourself. I feel like it would be very very valuable for this community for us to re-research this topic and put together a detailed timeline of what information came out, when, gathering all the links to the original sources in a single thread. Would anyone be interested in doing that? I believe we have all been victims of very heavy, sophisticated manipulation and I would like to document how the psyop went down.

After I heard Titus Frost's recent show on this subject, I reached out to @Bigfish on Twitter and had a good conversation about what it's been like for him to have his attempts to get this investigated completely thwarted by both law enforcement and media. Tonight, I sent the link to this thread to him to see if it was part of the disinfo campaign he described happened a couple of weeks after reporting the CP himself. He said he had not seen the material. We have two different accounts of finding pizzagate-related material on the CPP servers. Which, if either, is true?

From what I've been able to determine, the timeline of material on this alleged menu corroborates his story. All of the Voat threads about the menu posted below in the comments are from December 2016. Bigfish says he found the CP zip files early in November, reported them to DC police, and by late November was getting the blowoff from them. He then reported them to the FBI. He did not post on social media (Twitter) until he realized the authorities were doing nothing. He also sent reached out the NYPD and to Jeff Sessions' chief of staff. He is now deeply disillusioned with the idea of justice being possible.

Here is the original Voat post after he went to Titus Frost: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1640039 . I haven't re-watched this video yet, but the date @V____Z has for his report does not quite fit the timeline he gave in his recent re-interview with Titus Frost a few weeks ago in November and again to me personally today.

My gut is telling me the menu is fake -- chaff thrown out into the information stream to muddy the water and undermine Bigfish's real discovery. When you read the comments of the original Bigfish/Frost interview, it looks very similar to the disinfo shilling that happens here all the time. I could, of course, be totally wrong. But we've got great researchers here and a LOT of archived material. We could bring it all together and build a timeline of what info came out when, and where, and I think we could shine some light on DeepState shennanigans.

@Blacksmith21 @think- @fartyshorts @unicornandsparkles

ListenUp

I think when something doesn't make sense it isn't truth. Truth is crystal clear. I also think the 'Titus Frost' angle is the problem. This is what he said about the Hampstead case... https://www.facebook.com/believethechildren/videos/429113020817695/ And this is what Kane Slater wrote to his Fb page with 100,000+ followers https://archive.is/xqeTR#selection-1751.0-1751.25 and he has never been sued, though, I quite think he'd like to be sued in order to bring the evidence to a courtroom.
For me, the third strike was the Comet menu operation that involved DC police.
Perhaps Titus would be considered a 'limited hangout' https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Limited_hangout Here's the whole archive as it happened bottom to top http://archive.is/wslAN

Vindicator

ListenUp, could rephrase what you just said? I am not understanding. I think you're saying because Frost believes Bigfish, Bigfish isn't credible? I don't follow Frost closely and I've never heard of the Slater guy so the material you linked wasn't super clear to me. Is @ghostillion the source of the "menu" discovery?

bdmthrfkr

Like I said, if this is irrelevant you should delete the post, you know WAY more about this subject then I ever will. One thing I can say though is that your investigation has had a major impact on the way that our President is going after these sick bastards, the media and law enforcement are seriously compromised and the only way that this stuff ever got any attention and credibility was from this forum.

The last thing that I would ever want to do is muddy the waters.

Vindicator

No, you are not muddying the waters. That's the point! We are putting two-and-two together that there were actually two different Comet hacks, one possibly real, and one definitely fake. All we have to do is document exactly how it went down and write it up coherently with all the evidence (much of which has appeared in this thread in the Comments), and we can light Alefantis' ass on fire. If you hadn't made this post, all of those tidbits would not have come together. When this was happening in real time, it was too confusing to tease out what was happening. But now that we have the 40,000 foot view, and know the "menu" was used to shut down Joe Biggs and Alex Jones via threat of libel...the cause and effect chain of events will tell the story. It might be enough to get one of the alternative media to do a FOIA lawsuit against the DC police and Sessions' office proving Bigfish really DID file a police report and the police refused to act on it.

GeorgeT

You are correct. It was done on purpose - and it was this that forced - Alex Jones to retract and apologise - Joe Biggs posted this menu (without vetting) and got fired.

Vindicator

Interesting! And yet Titus Frost didn't feel the pointy end of Alefantis' lawyers' montblanc?

Wow. That makes it even more likely Bigfish is telling the truth. We really need to document the whole thing! Put all the pieces together. Do you have a source on this?

GeorgeT

Exactly how it unfolded. That is why Alex was furious with his staff, he knew that he took the bait. Because I knew that bloggers like David Seaman actually calls out JA and JP as pedophiles and never gets sued.

think-

I saw all of this come out live, and I was paying attention. But I did not realize there were two different hacker stories. I conflated them.

Yes, me too. It was very confusing.

think-

Thanks for the ping. I don't have a problem with flairing this possible disinfo, it's appropriate IMO.

When I re-read the thread I felt I still wasn't able to decide whether it is legit or a hoax.

What made me think it might be fake was that on the one hand, they use the code word 'pizza', on the other hand they are talking about torture very openly.

You would assume that they'd use a code word for this as well, so somebody who might get a look at the site wouldn't think there was some dark stuff going on.

(...) because I have spoken with the hacker who first claimed to have found zip files containing CP on the CPP server back in November ( @Bigfish ), and he says he did not see this menu when he was poking around.

Well, I guess he would have remembered it if it was legit.

I feel like it would be very very valuable for this community for us to re-research this topic and put together a detailed timeline I feel like it would be very very valuable for this community for us to re-research this topic and put together a detailed timeline

Agree. Unfortunately, I don't have the time to do it :-/

Which, if either, is true?

I'd opt for @Bigfish .

heygeorge

Thanks for the ping, Vindi. I saw this BS image posted soon after it was up, silently rolled my eyes, and bit my tongue. (I didn't want to be rude.)

But I think you've really brought up a great idea to refocus on for a bit. Hopefully enough folks were keeping records that it's possible to really piece together.

Vindicator

Wow. Thanks for including that link. We've got two dueling Comet CP stories -- pretty sure one is a psyop. Check out my comment and let me know what you think: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2314628/11494767

Voatwontletmesignin

I saw this document at the start of the year. Dam near killed me to find out this was happening to precious children. Ugh I feel sick and angry all over again. I have seen that Trump is using his art of war skills to battle these evil POS but it just doesn't get any less frustrating. It's such a painful slow process (Especially for these kids). I hope full disclosure is made to the public so we can start to heal and make sure this never happens again!!! Q said this info would put 99% of us in hospital... Well too bad! We will get through it! It's about the children not us! How can we eradicate these monsters if the whole truth is not told!?

racmo

I remember reading this and also recall that someone had discredited it. But who knows, really. Need more information. If it came from the same place as the sick pictures people are referencing , it is more likely to be real. otherwise, I'm more inclined to think it's a hoax/disinfo.

carmencita

4 surviving pizzas from last month's session.....Now what do you suppose they could mean? Nah. Sure everyone loves moldy pizza.

unclassified

It tells the whole pedogate story if you ask me. The Authorities should have swooped in long ago.

septimasexta

I had read references to this, but I have never seen the entire page in context. If this is proven legit, definitely a SMOKING G*N! Upvoted! Was this part of the hack by this guy? Interview with the Hacker who Broke into Comet Ping Pong and Found CP - #PizzaGate by Titus Frost https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTRewHDOr90&feature=youtu.be

SweAnon

I've seen more pics, and they are not nice to see.

Tzitzimitl

For the newcummers

newcummers

rooting4redpillers

Searching — site:voat.co/v/pizzagate {search term here} — using search terms new cummers ; newcummers ; November ; November's specials ; CPP App ; Comet Ping Pong App

A couple of related subs:

[Archived] "For the NewCummers.." Have you seen this? CPP (pizzagate) | submitted 1 year ago by @isthisreality

[Archived] Instructions New Cummers for Pizza App Image -Contains Rules, Describes 5 Fresh Pizzas 4 from Last Month - Where did it come from? (pizzagate) | submitted 1 year ago by @tigeror

Relevance in comments:

[Archived] Prosecutors Offer "Secret" Plea Deal to CometPizza Gunman (washingtonblade.com) | submitted 1 year ago by @StrangeHologram

Comments:

@Truthseeker3000 2 points (+3|-1) 10 months ago:

Funny the gunman hit the computer right!! Also, no denying the "November Specials" and "notice to newcummers" that was hacked from the Comet Pizza encrypted part of the site that mentions the app and also the massive amount of data the encrypted part of the site contained.

@downwithpizzaelite 4 points (+4|-0) 10 months ago:

The November Specials was a troll piece.

A few subs about the CPP app:

[Archived] "User Test - Comet Ping Pong App" on vimeo - from Andrea Castillo 4 years ago (pizzagate) | submitted 1 year ago by @ReasonsToBeCurious

[Archived] DISCOVERY: Jimmy comet and friends are using mobile payment app to send money to each other. NOT PRIVATE Payments mention pizza and other code. Need Archive ASAP (imgur.com) | submitted 1 year ago by @TrotskyTrotsky

[Archived] COMET PING PONG PRIVATE APP - This month we have five fresh pizzas for your enjoyment (jar2.com) | submitted 6 months ago by [deleted]

steve0suprem0

fuckin saved. holy shit.

Gothamgirl

That is amazing, I was just looking through old videos and saw that.

I remember last year everyone used the hashtag #Podesta28 for the wikileaks drop, which really revealed what we found. I just used that hashtag and told my friends to click it and said this is where most Pizzagate researchers began. I think I just woke everybody up, on fb.

stillinit

Alex Jones still defends CPP that fucking shill.

GeorgeT

He has been threatened big time. We do know now that that creepo JA is a Rotchild!

TimeOutofJoint

I saw this long ago and thought it was fake. After all I've heard lately, I'm now inclined to think it is real.

GeorgeT

Whether this particular is fake or not, we know that this is what actually goes on!

think-

Yes, at first glance it may look like a cruel joke.

But I am also inclined to think it is real.

UlyssesEMcGill

"Dodo Mobile"?

heygeorge

It's an Aussie provider.

Shillaxe

At the bottom of email it says "Vanessa French" who is vice prez of a Co called Beekeepers https://www.beekeepergroup.com/staff/vanessa-french/ & they develope apps, did they create Comets ?

GeorgeT

I gorgot about that! Awesome'

Arrvee

Where, exactly, was this found?

dooob

It is from the cpp haxor, i have seen another picture of a kid tied up to a table, everything censored except hands. Hacker allegedly released all pics uncensored, some anons said that on one pic an arab is sawing a kid, on another a kid is getting stuck with needles. Doubt anyone saved originals, I didnt dare to save the censored ones. Last night /pol/ had multiple threads on PG.

realityisinsanity

I did see the censored one of the girls tied to the tables. Just awful.

think-

Do you have links to these threads?

dooob

Sadly, no, I browse only on mobile so I never save links. I only saw the tied up kid, altough you only saw arms tied, the arms look very short and small. I doubt it is larp because they don't want us to talk about it at all. Someone has to have them, that's why I mentioned them.

think-

Ty

fartyshorts

I believe this is from a dark web website, not from CPP. Might even be a complete hoax.

Fahrvergnaked

My memory has it as an "experimental" google app that was for some pizza shop and you had to have a QR or some sort of code to use it. it was very poorly done and specifically designed to look like it was in alpha stage. Not much came out of it but I remember it wasn't dark web. I don't think it was CPP either. I think it came from one of the shady videos that first came out of the CPP/Besta investigation. Could have been a CPP insta lead too. Really can't remember.

GeorgeT

Correct 100%. It wasn't CPP but now we know Roberta's Pizza, Pelosi's Goat Hill Pizza, Besta (anagram for Beast) Pizza are all part of, which begs the question how many of these 'pizza' joints are fronts fir this global pedophile network?

Are_we__sure

You don't know any of that. There's not connection between those different businesses.

Fahrvergnaked

Don't forget Voodoo donuts. PDX is hub for sex trafficking and all VD locations are within a certain distance from subway stops.

Ho-Lee-Fuk

Mother of God... :( I would love to have free reign to torture these pedos at my leisure. I would make it last for decades.

Cc1914

Nothing wrong with reminding us. It's amazing to me how the most incriminating evidence was never asked about ! They ran with the basement narrative and said that's what pizzagate is!

red_red_wine

I don'T think I Would ever get over it if Trump turns out to be one of them. He's our only hope IMHO.

Tallest_Skil

Fucking LOL, Trump’s a zionist neocon civic nationalist. Of course he’s one of them. Stop deluding yourself.

GeorgeT

Check out Trump's tweet on Oct8, 2012 - and tell me would 'one of them' ever tweet this!!!! Trump might be a narcissitic megalomaniac but he is no pedophile/child murderer! Proof - Cathy Obrien mentions everyone from the Clintons, to the Bushes to the Cheney, Kissinger....She never mentions Trump - not once! Trump is clean - that's why they want him removed.

Votescam

Don't put all of your hopes in one basket.

Trump is an unlikely "Knight in Shining Armor" ... but I do very much hope that someone comes to the aid of women, young males and children being sex trafficked.

As much as I disdain Jeff Sessions for his right wing and backward ideas and racism... I can only also hope that he will continue on with the arrests and get to the higher up's.

albatrosv14

Your hopes are already crushed by the fact that the inauguration speech was done by a kike and the second person to talk after trump on inauguration day was a kike. So, start sucking jewish cock now.

Vindicator

What made you link this to Trump? Seems kind of out of left field.

bdmthrfkr

The President was only elected because of the rise of awareness of what the world has become. He is not our last hope we are.

think-

He is not our last hope we are.

This.

mooteensy

Nailed it

crashing_this_thread

We know. If Trump isn't our guy he would be torn apart. He our guy though. He's hurt the deep state immensely and we are about to win.

Blacksmith21

This was a document which was supposedly obtained from the hack of the server at CPP. I think it came out sometime in mid-late October 2015.

At this point, I'll make the assumption that it is real. It pretty much shows the level of disregard for human life and how truly psychopathic these people are.

Scirel

No one to this point has verified the document, so it must be treated as highly suspicious at this point.

HOWEVER, Joe Biggs and Maggie Howell, while working for Infowars, DID do a breaking report on the document, and Joe seemed pretty sure of its provenance, so I am holding out hope. But of course after that Alex Jones shut down anything and everything having to do with CPP, and fired Joe and Maggie over their wanting to pursue it. And while I still listen to AJ, I have never fully trusted him since. I'd like to think he just did it because they actually would have actually ruined him at that time, even possibly kill him (there's just stuff that couldn't be touched at the time) and he just had to grit his teeth and take it, but time will eventually reveal what actually went on.

Blacksmith21

the fact that Biggs was forced out and we don't know the real story should make one wonder why? I'd be willing to bet that AJ, JB and others were seriously threatened as JA still had influence then. There wasn't a switch flipped immediately after the election and Trump took the reigns. JA had all of his cronies, hitmen, Langley contacts etc. The network was fully up and running. They probably went full court press on them and they folded.

Which makes one wonder why they went so hard - that document? If so, that would indicate it is real.

BIGLY17

Real.

GeorgeT

It was after posting this when Jo Biggs was fired - and Alex started retracting!

Blacksmith21

Thanks for the refresher. Yes, Joe Biggs was the caller. I think he and his friend were also the ones who went to CPP and yes - caught some creepy guy leaving the back of CPP with 5 or so little ragamuffin boys following in tow. The video they made also shows clearly, a split/shared rear entrance to CPP and Bucks with a STAIRWELL going downstairs at Bucks, i.e. shared basement.

Are_we__sure

A split/shared rear entrance to CPP and Bucks? How do they share a rear entrance, there's a business between them. They both exit to parking area/alley.

What do you mean by shared basement? We know that Bucks as a basement and that is used for storage for both restaurants. But are you saying they have a common basement? With another business between the two buildings, I don't see how this works?

Blacksmith21

Have you been there? I have. I've seen it for myself. Spend less time concern trolling (shill account w/ extra _ ) and more time understanding technical vernacular. Vestibule.

Also, understand the building principle of "shared basements" (Protip - First results are specific to DC....wonder why).

Stupid concern trolling.

You are so fucking stupid AWS it's worse than ice cream brain freeze.

Are_we_sure

Vestibule is a technical term? Really? So show me what you are talking about. Seems from this video, Comet simply has a back door to the outside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKTiUaloDDA

I don't need to understand the building principle of shared basements in DC. The Comet Building and the Bucks building were not built at the same time.

You are so fucking stupid AWS...

You shouldn't really go here based on your recent Storm Post. Hint: Bukharin was a Russian Bolshevik, not the Prime Minister of Thailand.

GeorgeT

I remembered that very well. And next day Alex doing a livestream looking spooked and telling his viewers how CPP might be a distraction!

Fahrvergnaked

November Newcummers.

November 2016. PG didn't happen until October 2016 just before the election. None of this was out in 2015.

GeorgeT

But later it came out that Jacke Tapper's wife's favorite night dining place was at CPP!!!!! Interview was conducted in 2015. WTF!!!!! Was my reaction. An after Megyn Kelly's desperate attempt at cover up I asked the question of who is NOT part of this child torturing Brownstone operation as opposed to who else IS part of it. Mike Flynn's tweet must have sent shockwaves among the Eyes Wide Shut community!

Blacksmith21

Thanks for the catch. Yes, 2016.

think-

This was a document which was supposedly obtained from the hack of the server at CPP. I think it came out sometime in mid-late October 2015.

I hadn't seen it before, so, thanks OP!

'This month we have fresh pizza for your enjoyment. We also have 4 surviving pizza's from last month's session, all are on sale at an extremely low price, as they are in poor health and not expected to survive so a requirement is that you finish eating your pizza after your session.

This month's special includes a 30% discount on severe torture! Each image below is available for $1,000 in fine print. Andrew also has some prints he would like to sell so contact him for more info (they are true masterpieces).'

I wonder whether 'image' and 'print' in the second paragraph possibly don't refer to art prints, but to the girls shown on the prints.

Which would mean

Oh_Well_ian

it's fake... this was debunked in PG over a year ago

Are_we__sure

At this point, I'll make the assumption that it is real.

.....of course.

bdmthrfkr

These "people" are sick and disgusting.

I hope that they all, en mass, fall headfirst on to a rusty rake.

Blacksmith21

I've seen these people up close and personal. I would have no hesitation at slipping my Fairburn between the ribs of these monsters. As much as I would like to give the women a pass as victims, at some point they "turn" or "cross over" into becoming a predatory demon. There will be no redemption. Punishment by death is the only solution for the worst ones.

jangles

"Fairburn between the ribs of these monsters"

you just became a hero of mine!!!!

bdmthrfkr

Fire, never leave out fire.

SaveTheChildren

Christ is coming back with a sword and will indeed be bringing fire.

bdmthrfkr

I really haven't been paying too much attention to your investigation but I ran across this on infinity chan. If it's a repost just delet mods, I only posted on the off chance that nobody had seen it before.

It makes my blood boil to be quite honest.

UnicornAndSparkles

I always think it's good to be reminded of the old stuff. It may make something click for someone. You never know hehe.

bdmthrfkr

This just popped back up on an 8chan /pol/ post, it's always good to remember why we fight... and with the State of Emergency declaration that the President just announced, why we will win.

Vindicator

Can you post a link to the fullchan thread, please?

bdmthrfkr

You can't really link to individual posts on 8chan (at least I can't) but it was about a third of the way down in this one:

https://i.imgtc.com/SFxlpsK.png

Vindicator

Awesome, thanks!

UnicornAndSparkles

I am in the U.K. So this is news to me!! What does this mean? I must look into it.

UnicornAndSparkles

I do remember this from long ago. Thought it was on a pizza site .. but didn't think it was Comet? Any more info on it. I wouldn't know what to search now to try and find the archived stuff?