Kunti108

Hello, I usually just lurk this sub but there is a piece of information which hasn't been mentioned yet. The puka shell painting on the garage is signed of the top left square. It looks to read: By Ranald Weso 2007. I looked up Ranald Weso and found RanaldW on twitter. I don't have a twitter so I can only see so much but the first picture he re tweeted is of two kittens sleeping in a bed with owls surrounding them.

carmencita

I finally saw his twitter. Found this and don't know if it means anything. https://twitter.com/ranaldw/status/945327170389409792 A Christmas Card from Obama which means he has DC Govt. ties of some kind or other. Time to check out his history on line.

birthdaysuit11

Oh god. Anyone want to look into this??

carmencita

I was going to but I can't. I have been getting gibberish when trying to get to twitter. It happened right after posting a link of Spielberg with Heather O. on his lap. Cannot access certain sites. Crazy. I am getting antsy. It is holding me back. Maybe I can ask someone else to look into it. @new4now @migratorypatterns can either one of you look into the comment by @Kunti108 I cannot access Twitter. This looks interesting. The artist of the shells on the garage

new4now

Sorry Carmencita, I don't do Twitter

carmencita

No Problem. I don't either. Maybe my problem will clear up. TY.

new4now

Good luck...I had same problem one night

Didn't clear till next day

Maybe try a reboot, or a turn it off for a bit and try again

septimasexta

From the air looking down, there are some interesting line of sights:

Rooftop patio overlooks Pegasus roof and potentially the alleyway across from 3516 11th St.

Pegasus roof (By the way, was this ever listed on the PERMIT?) overlooks trolley park and potentially the alleyway.

https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9325344,-77.0311057,127a,35y,78.03h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en

carmencita

Am trying to research those names on Honeybee's list at the Amaya house (my choice of nickname for house). If you look at this record on Pedro B Amaya it says he is married and it also lists the 2012 Honda as belonging to him http://abcnews.go.com/International/troubles-oprah-winfreys-school-south-africa/story?id=12950275 I believe he is married to the woman we now suspect to be Gutierrez/Amaya, the woman seen walking with the girl. This is an interesting development. I am curious to know if that girl is legally theirs.

new4now

And down the rabbit hole we go

You and Gothamgirl have done a hell of a job pulling this all up

I had company today, so have to start all over :(

carmencita

I had company yesterday which I really enjoyed but could not wait to get back to this. These late nights are getting to me. I am missing out on stocking up on my Melatonin. Best time for that is between 10pm and 2am. Sigh.

new4now

Enjoyed company too

Melatonin doesnt do anything for me

My laptop monitor screwing up again, last fix wasnt really a fix

Hate trying to work on it when it's partially closed, will do what I can till it's fixed

Gothamgirl

It's funny how some on here could label others as trolls and pass judgement., when they should be paying attention. Not me I read everything posted.

https://m.imgur.com/a/8iE8b

And found this to: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1482722

Criticalthinker615

btw did anyone notice the 2 hispanic males in the end of the alley keeping watch with cellphone in hand to inform about the google car?

Criticalthinker615

the drop off marked "kids ^" with red exclamation marks leading up the stairway? guys this is some kind of weird child trafficking captured on streetview

carmencita

Oh I love that you picked up on that for I am horrible at maneuvering those Google streets. Wow. Those guys were there. Could you or someone please post a screenshot or view of them? I am in Mortal Shock. There is some real bad stuff going down all around there. There is a woman that has connections to Alefantis in DC as a Lawyer and in Florida to DWS as a Process Server. I can't prove it yet, but I believe the whole Hood is Controlled just like the area around CPP.

dundundunnnnn

it says "kids 616"

KnightsofHubris

SoSpricyHotDog, do you feel like you're jumping through hoops to make evidence fit your conclusions.

The immediate connotation I have with cowrie shells is African Pride. They are associated with West African heritage. They used to be used as money.

SoSpricyHotDog

Nope. Not jumping through hoops to fit a conclusion. We noticed something strange and we're connecting dots... that is, after all, what we've all been doing here since day 1. I will not make a claim until we can be sure of such a thing. I'm asking questions.

KnightsofHubris

Your connecting dots by leaping to many smaller speculative conclusions.

  • the driver could have been waiting
  • the mural is odd
  • the painting of shells is strange
  • the painting of shells is related to magic..........a big leap
  • it's odd the the painting of shells is on a house in DC, not near a beach
  • This whole paragraph is not just "noticing something." It's building something out of speculation and excluding all other interpretations *>Why would Cowry shells be painted in a back alley in DC, not near the beach? Across from a house with suspicious activity that could be linked to Pegasus? Furthermore, WHY would that vehicle with the woman and small girl be in that alleyway? Remember, this is a "DO NOT ENTER", meaning that this person either: *There green garage is "overbuilt" and the No Parking sign in meaningful.
  • The rooftop addition is odd.
  • weird super garages is not only a conclusion, but language intended to cut of other discussion.
  • This paragraph

3 homes in a row with bars on all windows, seashells and weird super garages, and a silver Honda that must have come from this alley - but didn't need to drive THROUGH the alley.

You're aware you haven't connected the Honda to any of those houses at all right?

It seems like you are really trying to thread a needle here and making lots of conclusions along the way.

Gothamgirl

The shells could be from Florida, as I suspect the driver may be... We are brainstorming, researching, and trying to piece it together and we need eachother to do that. We may not always get it right but we do put in the effort..

carmencita

What is your purpose here? To put doubts into people's minds about our rights to research? We have made no immediate claims on this evidence that we are looking into. The silver car is connected to the woman and the girl since the woman got out of it. She lives at the house with all the people listed by @Honeybee The reason all those things are odd that you listed is because they are in the alley ACROSS FROM PEGASUS. That is why we are even discussing and researching this. Get it through your head that CPP is located on a block owned by Saudis and the area is Controlled by the CIA. Alefantis has CIA ties. You have been a member for 10 mos. and I would think you would know by now why we are still looking into the Pegasus Museum and the Surrounding Area. You have read the Post and decided to Cherry Pick certain things that you are going to disavow. If you read the other Comments and had looked into past threads like many of us have on here for countless hours you would understand why we are still looking into this. The alley is suspect because of the area. If it had been in some small little town or small city we had never heard of, you would have recourse, but it is right across from the Pegasus Museum owned by James Alefantis. @SoSpriceyHotDog @Yuke @Gothamgirl @new4now

new4now

Haven't had time to check this one out

Give me a bit

carmencita

OK. I had to defend our actions and as to why we are looking into this area and why things are piquing our curiosity. Pegasus is the answer. Right across the alley is the reason.

SoSpricyHotDog

These are a collection of observations, questions and assumptions... I'm not threading a needle to draw a conclusion. We are looking at what seem to be items that "stick out" and are unique/possibly represent some kind of foul play.

The alley could be 100% innocuous. The dropped off kid could be 100% innocent. The house with "kids" spray painted out front that was once given a 5 star review by JA and described as "PEGASUS REAR" could be a coincidence. The multiple building permits that were executed next door to this house by the company owned by JA could have been a representation of how nice he is... helping out a neighbor who needed renovations and going through the trouble of putting the permits in his own name.

What the fuck do you expect?

Should EVERYTHING we post be 100% validated and vetted and proven prior to writing it? If so, there would be about 4 posts on Voat. Do you not understand how this works? How we connect dots by asking questions and making observations?

I've already explained to you, 3 times now, that the alley could* be nothing. We were merely chasing leads/following up on strange activity.

You're aware you haven't connected the Honda to any of those houses at all right?

Yes... but the Honda DID come from THAT alley, and parked about 20' in front of it, and it was driving through the alley the wrong way.

It could be nothing, I've already said that. What do you want me to do? Delete the post? Go to the alley myself? Interview everyone that lives there/near there? Find the Honda? Question the driver? Knock on the door of the house she was dropped off at?

Why don't I just waltz right into the Pegasus Museum while I'm at it? Tell them that I was suspicious of some activity - but, because I couldn't prove it from a handful of observations, I need them to sign a full confession?

Would that suffice?

carmencita

Could not have said it any better. TY

carmencita

Not really that strange now that you have informed us. This woman as @Gothamgirl found, is connected to the protest out in front of CPP. Also, she posted a picture of 4 girls and two of them looked like they could be the girl that was in the silver car. The name at the bottom of that picture was Alexandra Amaya. Those of you that have followed these Posts know that name as the Large family that @Honeybee listed. I hope that the picture will be posted here so you can all see it and what I am talking about. Yes, she is Highly Suspect and so is that Alley.

SoSpricyHotDog

This is huge. @Honeybee - if she hasn't gone through this alley in Google based on our photos/timeline, she totally should!

She's got a sharp eye and may see something we missed.

carmencita

Hope she checks in and takes a look. The more eyes the better. There is some serious Chicanery and Sketchy Business going on with that Alley. Very suspicious indeed.

Gothamgirl

I don't see that, I see it says AlexandraMigoya.

carmencita

Since she is on the Board of the National Gallery and has been linked to Alefantis, she is Fair Game as to Discussion and Inclusion I believe. She may have two names and be using this Amaya and Migoya they are Both Similar. These people Are Masters of Deceit, imo.

Gothamgirl

I thought that may be the case.

carmencita

Did you delete the other comment. I cannot respond. I will put it here.

Gothamgirl

Unfortunately accidentally yes.

carmencita

I have a Hunch about this woman and she is involved quite a bit with children. She started the isabella and ferdinand school and is on the Board of Blue Igloo Summer Camp and is on the Board of https://www.nationalgallery.org.uk/ A National Gallery Museum in DC and she attended Georgetown University . Coupled with the fact that she may be that woman we thought was at the CPP. If you notice the Twitter associates her with CPP. I just have a sixth sense about ther.

new4now

Thought woman would be a dead end

You've guys have pulled enough info thats it's not looking like the long shot it was

👍

carmencita

Still working on it. As you notice her husband lives there too and the 2012 Honda is listed as his. The girl I figure could be one of the other Amayas or she is a relative, "barrowed" or adopted or theirs. Thee is also the chance the woman was babysitting her. Did you see the comment about the Two Guys and a Drug Buy? There is so much in here. One of the other people has a connection to Dumfries Va. Where Boris T. lives now. So also, The woman's real name is Amayo so I believe she has an Alias of Gutierrez in Florida as a Process Server which @Gothamgirl discovered.

Gothamgirl

I found this:

http://occultcorpus.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20303-shells/

traditional folklore and archeological evidence tells us the ancient pagans used seashells often in ritual.

whether as a "shell" in which to hold items, offerings, etc as an offering on their own or even as ritual accoutrements capable of removing and casting spells, breaking or placeing curses, as well as removing or commanding spirits.

pattern, color, and lustrous light effects are often significant in ritual items. as is possible correspondence with body parts, for example cowrie shells.

sound is another aspect. in many diverse places in the world, shell instruments were used during rituals -often far from the sea (!), and were considered capable of communication with the gods and spirit world. even today, kids (and big kids) still like to hear the sea within.

i use shells of all sorts ritually every chance i get, and love em. :thumbup:

new4now

Figured it was a rough neighborhood when I saw all the bars on the Windows

Trying to get laptop working so I can open different tabs

You gals have been busy

Much appreciated

carmencita

This subject has been opened up so many times. I would like to make a new connection. Something we have not found before. Something major, just because. It Is Time.

Gothamgirl

I see. I just accidentally just deleted my last comment. Thank you for sharing.

carmencita

Whoa. Seems that she wears Two Hats. One of Process Server in Florida as Gutierrez and One of Lawyer in DC as Migoya. She has an interesting set of friends with Alefantis and DWS. What company she keeps. So maybe she is CIA and is a Double Agent of sorts. Or just playing both parts when ever needed. These folks do Beat All, don't they,

new4now

Nice tie to the two names 👍

Gothamgirl

Definetly to many people at that house. I wonder if they're tied to ms13 or illegal passports there as well.

Florida is easy pickings for children. Lots of illegals, immigrants, visitors, and drugs.

carmencita

Also, I was thinking that maybe a lot of those people might be the same way, you know, crashing there when in DC and then also working in another place, or where needed. Maybe they also have aliases. @SoSpriceyHotDog was wondering why she was in that alley and also there is a shot of her looking down the alley while standing next to the car. Strange. Maybe she took that girl somewhere in the alley. Sick Thoughts.

Gothamgirl

Yes I noticed her looking down there as well.

carmencita

Remember that guy they found on a Florida beach? He was tied to Clinton and possibly DSW. He was looking into illegal passports/visas I believe. Was his name Weishaupt?

Gothamgirl

Yes I do.

carmencita

I think she is important and should not be counted out at this point. Since she is involved in the National Gallery and with Alfantis and the Summer Camp this is sending me vibes. I hope others might join in and help out. I will be on here off and on, but am having guests soon. There is Something Really Odd going on in that Hood and in that Alley. Spricey has Found Something Important, imo.

Gothamgirl

Their is another woman registered to that address, who resembles the woman in the background in the photo with the kids.

Maria J Gutierrez

I recieved 2 hits on her in Florida. 1 doctor I can't find a photo of.

Then a process server who looks like the woman in the photo, and is from Debbie Wassermans district https://judicialsupport.com/about/ceo-biography/

I don't think anyone would leave a finance sticker on that car after purchasing it but I could be wrong. What if its leased, what if it came from the Awan car lot. Just random thoughts, I wonder if there is a way to find out?

carmencita

Wow. I just took a close look at her and she looks like she could be the one more so than the other one. The fact that she is from Fla. is amazing. She is doing Free Lance work. Too bad Google blocked that Plate. That CPS Co. that has offices in Cali and Va. could be the sticker, but as you say to leave it on there would be unusual. But they do make mistakes sometimes as we have found out.

carmencita

Oh Wow. Awan Car Lot CAR. What a joke. Another hiding in Plain Sight Operation. Would not be surprised. So Maria G. could be a DWS connection possibly. These people keep popping up over and over in one place or another. The keep moving the same people around over and over. But now we are getting used to that and are on to it.

carmencita

Yes her mother enrolled her in that class But look what found about the mother Alexandra https://twitter.com/R_Daneel_0livaw/status/795529119341670400 A Tweet about Her and Comet Ping Pong

Gothamgirl

I just found this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1549069

So how does it relate to Amayo sorry I am confused?

Oh_Well_ian

My best deduction >> She was waiting for the Google mapping car or was waiting for a signal that it was coming.

This is a psyop attempting to absolve Child Protective Services and the Pegasus location from suspicion and provide a false narrative about both. Once again, making them the victims.

There is a good chance another Welch like False Flag is the next step.

Btw.. you found INCREDIBLE information and did an amazing job of bringing the surrounding area into full view.

SoSpricyHotDog

Thanks... I'm not sure a false flag will coincide w/ Google Street View. Nor do I think this was intentional (her pulling up to drop off the girl to intentionally be caught on the street cam). Just my opinion though... crazier things have happened.

carmencita

I agree with you. I think she was up to no good and something nefarious but not staged. Someone has discovered a Drug Deal going down at the same time and she has ties to Alefantis and DWS possibly.

septimasexta

This is a plausible explanation. It would explain my discovery of rental info on the white house they appeared to be headed for (3516 11th St. NW) which used THE SAME GOOGLE STREET VIEW OF THE HOUSE with the lady and girl in front! https://apartable.com/buildings/3516-11-st-nw-washington-dc

THIS IS IMPORTANT: Early pizzagate researchers discovered this, which was created BEFORE Pegasus was exposed: "James Alefantis" gave 5 stars for "PEGASUS" located at "REAR D.C., 3516 11th St. NW, Washington, DC 20010" http://archive.is/zaQBM

There was an earlier comment that the Google street view for 11th St. on that date that included the lady and girl in question, WAS UPDATED FOR NO APPARENT REASON. You can see the edit, Follow the street view from 3516 11th down towards the trolley park on the right. Notice the garbage bag at the front gate of the park. In one Google Street View, you can see the garbage bag, a male pedestrian with a backpack and the lady and girl getting out of the car. If you continue to the intersection and make a right, YOU SEE THE EDIT. Turn around and look back towards 3516 and the GARBAGE BAG IS GONE. An unmarked white van was parked at that intersection in front of the park on the same day the garbage bag appears. It seems that there was intent to edit out the van, as it disappears when the corner is turned and the edit point begins. COINCIDENCE?????? Reposted: WHITE VAN IN FRONT OF TROLLEY PARK Garbage bag establishes time! https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9327131,-77.0286018,3a,75y,315.05h,89.89t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAQmGTmbwJtmJSkZD_pWUoA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Gate entrance to Trolley Park, garbage bag at gate entrance, young student pedestrian, woman and young girl entering white house from parked car: GARBAGE BAG ESTABLISHES TIME. https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9329038,-77.0285076,3a,60y,310.63h,81.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s4K4qS2hjvC_tDy-FrbAjZQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

Same view as above, looking toward Trolley Park. Garbage bag at entrance. Man in road talking to person in car. Garbage bag establishes same time. https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9330059,-77.0285087,3a,75y,335.78h,71.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdZnIkVLC-VlmufniGMz5uw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en

A good summary of Pegasus for newcomers. The hole, according to matching brick wall/plaster patterns would be at the front entrance of the renovated "museum". Compare with Instagram of "trench" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYBU08FhIfYYouTube

carmencita

What is Jewgle? You surely meant Jingle, Right? The Holidays are over.

Oh_Well_ian

gOO GLE

carmencita

OOH You Are An Angel. Upvoat4U. Thank You for not letting this Drop off the Page. So many times we Go Wild and research the heck out of a Post and then it just Fades Away. This needs To Be Continued until we get to Some Reasonable Results. Do Not Let This Die.

Factfinder2

The car exiting the wrong way out of the alley in particular is odd. The cowry shells are weird too. I also notice that weeds are growing in front of the cowry shell garage and don't look like they've been squashed by car tires going in, meaning the garage is probably not being used to store a vehicle--at least not one that is driven regularly.

carmencita

OOH, We have such Smart People on here. Congrats! Great Find. TY.

Yuke

I've had a look here https://dcgis.maps.arcgis.com/apps/webappviewer/index.html?id=9a5c11c11dd347cc9c05d64499cc98ee at all of the properties in that alley and none of the names are recognizable, with the exception of a woman named Cummings, but she looks to check out okay. You could go through those names trying to identify each one and that may lead to knowing why the woman drove around that little alley?

carmencita

Cummings. Is not that the name of the guy that makes Child Sized Coffins? Idk, but could be something. I think I sent you messages about this Whole Area Being Controlled. A Possibility, IMO.

Yuke

Close. He used to make coffins, for all people, you'd have to assume, as he used to operate Portland Natural Caskets (incidentally, he is now back in Oregon). The 'child sized coffin' thing was attributed to the guy with the instagram handle werkinonmahnightcheese (Jeff Smith), who made a 'child sized' coffin shaped coffee table (in fairness, I don't think an adult sized one would quite work as a coffee table!). The work of the two was mixed up a lot to produce 'child sized coffins', which wasn't accurate.

carmencita

Thank you. I understand.

SoSpricyHotDog

Thanks for the link - yeah, I don't want to dox or expose any PII with this one... it's a loose lead based on strange observation. I just can't think of a single reason as to why (when you look at the streets vs. alleys) this silver Honda would ever need to go through that alley prior to pulling into that spot.

I'll dive in.

Also looking for houses/renovations that required permits... see if we find any more Achilles heels. (Like we saw for 3518)

septimasexta

Did we ever find a specific permit for the new Pegasus roof/lookout? This is a major redo and well documented on Google Earth. https://www.google.pl/maps/@38.9325344,-77.0311057,127a,35y,78.03h,45t/data=!3m1!1e3?hl=en Exactly what is the commercial business operating in Pegasus? The deed considers the property to be COMMERCIAL and lists it as a car garage for the sale of automobiles. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE FOR THIS? What are the legal ramifications if the property is not being used as listed??????? This is a legitimate legal avenue to pursue.

Yuke

My only guess is that she either lives in one of those houses in the alley (unlikely) or that someone she knows does, and she swung by to make a stop on the way to dropping the girl off. Of course, it could be something more sinister but this is the most rational explanation as hings stand.

carmencita

Oh, I think it is Highly Likely she lives in one of those houses. The Amaya House.

SoSpricyHotDog

Agreed. A stop in the alley to visit someone en route to their house/friend's house is the most rational explanation that I hope to be true. Hard to ignore the symbolism and proximity of course... but, without something else concrete (questionable permits, prior convictions, domestic disturbances, etc) - this is likely just another circumstantial pin in the map.

carmencita

NO. Please Don't Drop This. I am going to be busy but hope to check in and then not til the evening, but I Fell VERY Strongly there is So Much More to this Story. Please/

SoSpricyHotDog

Not dropping! Just want to dig for more leads to solidify it!

carmencita

Good to hear. TY!