realityisinsanity

A lot of actresses of Albanian descent revealing information lately.

ProudPatriotGal

I hope more people come out. I know it must be hard for them to bring up the past. Reading about their different cases makes me remember what I went through when I was younger.

gl7

You whore yourself for Hollywood, blame yourself.

GreenDell144

At 12, parents are to blame. They threw their kid in the garbage for Babylon greed.

Steinmacher

After all that she is a libTard still embracing the lefty rape culture leaders.

smh...

dreamwarrior23

I feel sad for her. I wish she had just quit the damn business back then

carmencita

Here is a thread from Data Lounge where many have their say : https://www.datalounge.com/thread/20400254 Kramer does not get a pass from most. Some bear their souls and admit they too were abused as a child. Some still hurting. Why would they not be hurting, their souls have been stolen by their abusers. I applaud Eliza for her Courage and hope this brings her Peace.

GreenDell144

Yeah. I think it is fair and right to consider a victim’s story carefull, but on this sight... only a shill would disparage a victim for coming forward.

carmencita

Anyone that 'attacks a victim is a shill or someone that has not heart or understanding. Also they can never put themselves into someone else's shoes. Walk a mile....

carmencita

I know. Sometimes I get the fact that a lot of people don’t want to go there because it is too horrid. Those that are blatant are grossly uninformed or abusers too.

MichaelClayton

That's two kids from James Cameron movies that have been possibly abused. The other one I'm speculating is Edward Furlong in Terminator 2. Joel Kramer was the Stunt Coordinator in that as well. Don't know if he's the fall guy for Cameron or if he really did it?

elephantdoesntforget

That's how they raise money for many of these movies...

MichaelClayton

By prostituting the kids in the movie out?

elephantdoesntforget

That and filming and then selling the videotaped child pornography.

Factfinder2

Shouldn't parents be prosecuted for child endangerment in cases like this and especially for obstruction of justice for not notifying authorities when the child tells them about the assault? Why are they not held accountable along with the slimy perps?

GreenDell144

Of course. Meanwhile good parents are persecuted by CPS.

Shiggz

Like with Weinstein if true he will Definetly have an near exact pattern of this behavior. A High functioning monster will limit it from escalating and pick their targets and indulgences carefilly to keep blowback confusing and deniable.

GreenDell144

Exactly. This makes investigation tough, but over time... it’s inevitable that they will be caught if the social climate is right.

3141592653

This is infuriating

cdglow

There are enough details here to be believable, and there might be some physical evidence in the form of hospital records if there was a broken bone.

But there are 2 things I don't really understand.

Years ago, I had heard second hand that Joel Kramer was “found out” and forced to leave the business. I learned recently that in fact he still works at the top of the industry.

People in Hollywood do not hide the fact they're working: there is IMDB and they have access to agents and other resources. Maybe she was trying to block that out and not actively looking in on him, but this part of the story is a bit weird to me.

came out to the set to visit and face him, later that very same day, by no small coincidence, I was injured from a stunt-gone-wrong on the Harrier jet.

Whether she was scared of Joel Kramer or not, she's alleging that attempted murder took place. Why wouldn't she speak up at the point that she believes that he is literally trying to kill her?

3141592653

Victims don't speak up for many valid reasons

emtpayislow

She did speak out you stupid cuck. She told her POS parents who did nothing.

3141592653

I think you misread or misunderstood what I said

3141592653

Are you responding to me?

emtpayislow

Sorry i have been at work. Not sure how i misread your comment but i will take your word that i did. I read the story and see one victim and she reached out for help so i guess i dont see the point of your comment. Enlighten me.

MaurilliaVerigo

Sound out this randomly generated youtube URL:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChriB7pUssY

It links to a child sex documentary. I was going to make a post about this, but Voat doesn't let new accounts make them. I also thought about submitting it as a joke to reddit's popular "funny" subreddits but I figure they will just think it's a coincidence and get upset with me for laughing about the topic.

Cheesebooger

Certified kosher. Good grief wtf is and has been going on in the jewish community

Shiggz

Even the secular jews view whites as lesser evolved humans to be used for labor like plow mules.

Jews see niggers like we might see talking dogs.

Sublimesati

Sorry but she blames hollywood (a location) and other actors for not stepping up the the plate while on the night it happened her parent let her go for sushi and a swim with the guy. Sympathize with her but she should blame her parent for greenlighting the little innocent date.

jwm5514

And I remember how soon-after, when my tough adult female friend (in whom I had confided my terrible secret on the condition of a trade that she let me drive her car around the Hollywood Hills)

I'm not sure I understand what she is saying here, but it sounds like to me what happened to her was just so unbelievably traumatic that the only way she would tell anyone about it was if they let her drive their car. Hard to sympathize with these people when they say things like that.

Sublimesati

Yeah. Sounds like two girlfriends trading secrets. Maybe the whole thing was revisionist history.

GreenDell144

She is probably a butterfly operative. Much like the character she portrayed in Dollhouse. That show started out cool and interesting... kinda gross by the end.

Shiggz

I would never let my kids alone with an adult for swimming and food. And never leave them alone on set for the day either.

Yet we drop our kids of at schools and parks.

When it comes to child actors, you can almost just ask did your parents drip you of at the studio or were they always by your side?

GreenDell144

I don’t drop my kids off ANYWHERE. After this last year of eye-opening... my kids are ALWAYS with either me, or my wife. I’ve been hesitant to let them stay with gramma a few times... that’s it.

Sublimesati

Same. I have a 7 year old and in 5 years there's no way in hell he's going on an "innocent" play date with a sexed a woman in her 30s.

notaspy

they were more worried about ruining an acting career than saving future victims. Both sides of that story stink.

That never occured to me, but given the overall state of humanity - oy vey. They prostituted her out. Gas them.

ASolo

Add another one to the fire. This deck of cards isn't only falling, it's burning to the ground.

damnittohell

Wasn't she in Commando with Arnold Schwarzenneger when she was about 14?

squarcle

She was in True Lies with Arnie.

BanditOne

That was Alyssa Milano.

bdmthrfkr

I hope you lifted this from somebody else OP, the Faceberg links are still active and the account is a friend of Hridoy Khan. OPSEC is a very important part of Pizzagate, you have either outed yourself or you have outed a friend of yours.

Be careful and safe OP, this is a dangerous world that we live in.

Mad_As_Hell

I got the link from r/conspiracy , don’t have a Reddit account myself so if someone could give this person a heads up that’d be much appreciated https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/7q6pzf/eliza_dushku_writes_a_firsthand_account_of_joel/

Salbuchi_2019

Abuse in Hollywood is a (((white))) problem!

Shizy

Only a brainwashed dumb fuck would bring race into this

meow_cow

So.... Most liberals?

MacPhisto

Horrific and all-too-common story. The fact that this is not surprising tells us Hollywood needs to be cleansed. And you know Whedon was all over her as well.

0iamlordeyayaya0

Can't believe the shills didn't hit you. Wheden must be the next lamb.

Shiggz

Not a fan of whedon but I don't picture him into adult females.

MacPhisto

https://www.thewrap.com/joss-whedon-feminist-hypocrite-infidelity-affairs-ex-wife-kai-cole-says/

It was widely rumored and believed that Whedon was sleeping with all of his female stars on his shows, and their lack of support or denials when this came out pretty much confirmed it.

makesyoumoist

His ex wife accused him of coercing and/or fucking a few actresses.

SexMachine

I call BS on her story.

BanditOne

He's been working in Hollywood since 1978. Was still active 2017. All that time and not one police report? I, too, am skeptical. Also, she's approaching 40. As these previously hot/young actresses get less attention, they get in on the metoo bandwagon.

3141592653

No.

outdoorcistern

If we are breaking the ribs of 12 year olds to produce" entertainment', then maybe we should just let lions eat them?

3141592653

Not sure i understand

outdoorcistern

Should prepubescent kids be allowed to do stunts which could result in their death, when 16 year olds can't operate the meat slicer in delis?

Buttfuckmebigfoot

Why?

Redpilled_Canadian

Hey mother commented on the post saying she was scared of Kramer, still not an excuse to say nothing.

R34p_Th3_Wh0r1w1nd

Her brothers are cucks. If my sister told me she was molested and by who. I'd be in jail for life unless they let me off.

ADaniels

^^^this^^^ I would ask my sister to look me in the eye and tell her what I would be about to do and if she is lying she better fess up now because her brother will be potentially going to jail for an upcoming murder....

3141592653

It is very rare that people lie about being assaulted

ADaniels

Girls will twist the truth until it is a lie, especially in matters like this, I’ve witnessed women commit crime of lying about sexual assault and tell me they are a victim when they just didn’t want to admit they had drunk goggles the night before and were attracted and hands-on flirting with the guy they now say raped them that night.... humans evolved from animals, both men and women.

3141592653

Again,not here to be difficult or argumentative. I work with survivors everyday and I wish it were not true that about 1 in 4 women will be raped in their lives. Us men need to stop wasting energy telling victims they are lying and try to change this culture we live in. It becomes far too real when it is your sister , daughter, or wife who is the victim

3141592653

And for every supposed liar, 100 women are really raped

ADaniels

Half the rape in the country is committed by 3 percent of the population..... blacks ages 15-35.... let’s start there.

3141592653

No.

3141592653

No, that is not true. Not here to be argumentative. This is the work I do every day

3141592653

Merely 1% of accusations are found to be false

ADaniels

.....which is why I question the validity of this story....

Shizy

Sadly there's a lot more parents/relatives out there who don't care enough or are just too damaged to have the normal response we all would have. They are just complacent to the abuse. It's hard to fathom since I would kill the mother effer if he touched my kid or sibling

leo87

Her parents allowed her to continue to work with her abuser. They are partially guilty

SebuttYopick

I wonder if others people suspected, if others know of this 'culture'....Arnie? James Cameron? Zidi? Simon Michaël? Jane Morris? Charlton Heston?..some body knew something?

Warnos44

It is also possible they are among a long line of people who are accustomed to this type of behavior, that it's considered just one of those things you have to do to grow up. I'm not saying that I believe that at all, but imagine being surrounded by that kind of happenings your entire life. It's sick. It's also rampant.

EyeoftheChampion

I wondered what happened to her, she seemed so beautiful and full of promise. She was ground up and spat out by the look of it.

Have you ever watched the tv series Dollhouse ? Very short lived Joss Whedon series.

WestEndGirl

Did you see how she pointed out her Dollhouse names/personas in the post? I remember watching that series and being astounded at the open blatantness of the symbols and themes. I hoped against hope that I was just being paranoid and overthinking the series. It is really sad though to have her abuse be confirmed. If one were really paying attention to the Dollhouse with "eyes that see", they wouldn't be surprised by this admission. It's really sad.

EyeoftheChampion

I had no clue when I saw it but it was creepy as fuck. The hopelessness in their eyes at times, the reaching to each other and then being blanked.