dundundunnnnn

"I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added, "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."”

janet58

I hate that lying fuck's face.

dreamwarrior23

It breaks my heart to see people actually believing this guy over her. If we're that stupid we deserve to get nuked by NK

ProudPatriotGal

Why is everyone else's accusation's about being raped or abused are taken as truth in Hollyweird; however, his own daughter is not to be believed???

AndrewBlazeIt

Because he's a Jew.

KnightsofHubris

It's because this unlike almost every other case of this type, it was looked into immediately after the incident was alleged to happen. No charges were brought in NY and no charges were brought in CT because it both cases the authorities believe no abuse happened.

Shizy

Except the judge in the family court custody case did believe it happened and denied Woody visitation rights to Dylan for her protection. The documents are online to read

KnightsofHubris

You are going further than the judge did. The Judge never said he believes the abuse happened.

Mr. Allen's relationship with Dylan remains unresolved. The evidence suggests that it is unlikely that he could be successfully prosecuted for sexual abuse. I am less certain, however, than is the Yale‐ New Haven team, that the evidence proves conclusively that there was no sexual abuse.   ... I agree with Dr. Herman and Dr. Brodzinsky that we will probably never know what occurred on August 4, 1992. The credible testimony of Ms. Farrow, Dr. Coates, Dr. Leventhal and Mr. Allen does, however, prove that Mr. Allen's behavior toward Dylan was grossly inappropriate and that measures must be taken to protect her. ... After considering Ms. Farrow's position as the sole care‐taker of the children, the satisfactory fashion in which she has fulfilled that function, the parties' pre‐litigation acceptance that she continue in that capacity, and Mr. Allen's serious parental inadequacies, it is clear that the best interests of the children will be served by their continued custody with Ms. Farrow

Shizy

He wrote that Allens behavior towards dylan was "grossly inappropriate and that measures need to be taken to protect her"! Yeah, judges who don't believe abuse happened say that all the time!

KnightsofHubris

You can take your conclusions from what he wrote, but he wrote what he wrote.

He was not determining if abuse happened. He was determining custody and visitation.

Shizy

So the family court documents regarding the Allen/Farrow custody proceedings are available online for anyone to read.

Allen wasn't charged or convicted criminally regarding his sexual abuse of 7 year old daughter Dylan, however he lost all custody and visitation to her because of the legitimate concerns of his inappropriate behavior with her. That's a really big deal!

Cheesebooger

Its just part of his culture.

sunajAeon

What a sleaze-his children have turned on him-hard to ignore that

KnightsofHubris

Moses Farrow seems to believe his side of the story.

ChoiceFathom

He's a sick pig! They all need to be put to death.

gaystapo

Check out this clip of woody in a creepy romantic scene with a 17 year old....

https://youtu.be/OoPJpwQVO_s

Factfinder2

TMZ:

“Then 41-year-old Woody said, "I'm open-minded about sex. I'm not above reproach; if anything, I'm below reproach. I mean, if I was caught in a love nest with fifteen 12-year-old girls tomorrow, people would think, yeah, I always knew that about him."

He added,** "Nothing I could come up with would surprise anyone ... I admit to it all."**”

https://www.tmz.com/2014/02/05/woody-allen-12-year-old-sex-interview-pedophile/

Archive: http://archive.is/azzHN


Vanity Fair:

10 UNDENIABLE FACTS ABOUT THE WOODY ALLEN SEXUAL-ABUSE ALLEGATION

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/02/woody-allen-sex-abuse-10-facts

Archive: http://archive.is/cMk4H

QuoteUnquoteArt

The way they shilled for Allen makes Yale-New Haven Hospital Child Sex Abuse Clinic a suspect institution.

Factfinder2

Agreed.

KnightsofHubris

Why do you claim they shilled for him?

And why would they? Weren't they working for cops in Connecticutt?

QuoteUnquoteArt

"The Yale-New Haven Hospital Child Sex Abuse Clinic’s finding that Dylan had not been sexually molested, cited repeatedly by Allen’s attorneys, was not accepted as reliable by Judge Wilk, or by the Connecticut state prosecutor who originally commissioned them. The state prosecutor, Frank Maco, engaged the Yale-New Haven team to determine whether Dylan would be able to perceive facts correctly and be able to repeat her story on the witness stand. The panel consisted of two social workers and a pediatrician, Dr. John Leventhal, who signed off on the report but who never saw Dylan or Mia Farrow. No psychologists or psychiatrists were on the panel. The social workers never testified; the hospital team only presented a sworn deposition by Dr. Leventhal, who did not examine Dylan.

All the notes from the report were destroyed. Her confidentiality was then violated, and Allen held a news conference on the steps of Yale University to announce the results of the case. The report concluded Dylan had trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality. (For example, she had told them there were “dead heads” in the attic and called sunset “the magic hour.” In fact, Mia kept wigs from her movies on styrofoam blocks in a trunk in the attic.) The doctor subsequently backed down from his contention.

The Connecticut state police, the state attorney, and Judge Wilk all had serious reservations about the report’s reliability."

KnightsofHubris

None of that shows any shilling for Woody Allen. You're showing some people disagreed with their findings. Other did not.

It doesn't show that they changed their findings in any way because the accused was Woody Allen.

There's lots there that goes after their methods...."No psychologists or psychiatrists were on the panel."....but doesn't say they changed their methods to because of Woody Allen.

I presume the CT police referred the case to them because they had more expertise than the CT police. I would presume they had more expertise than a Family Court judge too.

This part sounds false

The state prosecutor, Frank Maco, engaged the Yale-New Haven team to determine whether Dylan would be able to perceive facts correctly and be able to repeat her story on the witness stand. .....

This part sounds like they are reaching for a way to discredit the conclusions.

Dr. John Leventhal, who signed off on the report but who never saw Dylan or Mia Farrow......the hospital team only presented a sworn deposition by Dr. Leventhal, who did not examine Dylan.

Are they speaking of a physical examination? Because I believe the Yale Team based their report on several interviews with Dylan, are they saying Dr. Leventhal wasn't part of those interviews?

Does it matter if Leventhal wasn't the one conducting the interview? it doesn't mean he wasn't aware of the interview or didn't say see the videos of the interview. For example, not every cop involved in a case needs to be in on all the interviews and the prosecutors are often not on the interviews, but they can still write up a report based on those interviews.

Wasn't this report made public at the time? Let me see if I can find it.

KnightsofHubris

It seems the whole report was not made public. It seems only the intro and the summary pages were released.....it jumps to page 40.

https://radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/yale-new-haven-hospital-allen.pdf

The part that sounded false to me seems to only include part of what was asked of the Yale Team. The report says

Two major questions posed in the referral were: Is Dylan telling the truth and did we think she was sexually abused?

It mentions the interviews they carried out. Dylan Farrow was interviewed by "Ms Sawyer and Dr. Hamilton" in Sept, Oct and November of 1992. Mia Farrow was interviewed separately in those months as well.

In December Mia was interviewed by "Ms Sawyer, Dr Hamilton and Dr Leventhal" and the video of this interview was reviewed with Mia.

So Leventhal did interview Mia, but the bulk of the interviews and all the interviews with Dylan were from Sawyer and Hamilton. I wonder if anyone alleges they disagrees with Leventhal's sworn statement or with the report.

These pages do not show who signed the report, but it is written in a collective voice.

we interviewed.....we met with...It is our expert opinion.....our opinion was reinforced.......while we can conclude....we cannot be definitive.

So there's nothing that I see that says the opinion wasn't unanimous or that they behaved any differently than they normally would.

QuoteUnquoteArt

Are you a Woody Allen fan?

AndrewBlazeIt

Dude, he's getting paid. He's responded a SHITLOAD to like every single thread about Allen.

Who's an incestuous rapist pedo, btw.

@KnightsofHubris

KnightsofHubris

Yeah, Me and the Yale Sex Abuse Clinic.

We're just paid.

AndrewBlazeIt

I know, that's why I said it.

KnightsofHubris

Yes.

And a Mia Farrow Fan. She's great in Broadway Danny Rose and Radio Days and Hannah and Her Sisters and .....OMG, I just remember Rosemary's Baby was directed by Polanski.....wow that's weird....I was thinking it was Cassavetes, but he was just an actor in it.......anyway she's really good in that.

I like their work. They are both however fucked in the head.....that was part of the trial testimony of the child psychologist who worked with them, by the way. Remember all the Soon Yi stuff happened first. This was all out there and public. The allegation of this incident came up in the middle of these two breaking up. Four days before this allegation, the child psychologist testifed that Farrow was raging against Allen the Soon Yi thing calling him Satanic and Evil and then asked in all seriousness Farrow asked the doctor if she thought the Farrow should marry Allen. That's not a rational person. Allen is, of course, not a disinterested party, but he claims in the middle of all this she was asking about getting fitted for costumes for his next movie. He made that claim months before the custody trial and the pyschologist seems to back that type of thinking up.

AndrewBlazeIt

(((Leventhal)))

GreenDell144

Gosh. What about the adopted daughter that he married. Maybe there is a reasonable explanation for that. “Oops, I slipped and fell and accidentally had an intimate romantic relationship with an underage girl that I was supposed to protect and be a father to. My bad. Nothing to see here.”

Random101

What about the adopted daughter that he married.

Allen didn't adopt Soon-Yi.

GreenDell144

?

We have all seen that reported many times. Can you clarify? It seems that he was at one time her parental guardian of record, was he not?

Random101

Soon-Yi Previn (born circa October 8, 1970) is the adopted daughter of actress Mia Farrow and musician André Previn, as well as the wife of filmmaker Woody Allen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soon-Yi_Previn

GreenDell144

That is the current status of their relation, and not in contention as to the facts. It seems that there was a period where Farrow and Allen were married and another wherein they shared visitation rights, during which Soon-Yi was a minor, and it has been stated that Allen had been inappropriately involved either her. My question is about whether or not any of this occurred at a time when he was married to Farrow and thus acting as a literal or figurative guardian in the household. Either way, it indicates a breach of trust on the part of an adult and toward minor in the home, because he now has a relationship with his ex-wife’s daughter. That is in NO WAY normal.

Random101

It seems that there was a period where Farrow and Allen were married

What's your source for this? I've found nothing that suggests that they were ever married.

GreenDell144

I have been forced to read more about it. I confess, much of what I thought to be true about this deserves re-examining. I cannot confirm if their relationship resulted n marriage or not. I can’t tell if they had kids together, or if they just raised each other’s kids together. It seems their relationship ended because of some scandalous photos of soon yi. I’m not sure how old she was in the photos. It seems the relationship “officially” started when she was 21. There are comments from some family members indicating that it started before as ‘grooming’. I am starting to see a lot of unverifiable, “he sad”, “she said” type of stuff. I’m ready to leave this alone for awhile and just wait and see how it turns out. I pray for justice, if it applies. I guess that’s all I can do. God knows what happened, though it seems maybe we can’t for sure. I find some elements very disappointing, however: Woody’s comment for TMZ and his characterization of the daughter that accuses him... those statements made me more suspicious. The sources are too numerous, and I’m losing track in the morass of reporting and comments. The truth will come out when it’s ready, I guess.

KnightsofHubris

Soon Yi Previn's father is Andre Previn, Mia Farrow's previous husband.

She was not adopted by Allen.

Soon Yi is much younger than Allen but was an adult when their affair began.

Sackajahweeda

Ok well thats it...pack up go home this is the real story. Ha does he really think that this is the response hes going to get?

fuspezza

PR SPIN

OoLaLaFrenchGirl

The fact that he married his own adopted daughter (she was also young at the time) says it all. This guy is a sick, demented child rapist.

Shizy

He never adopted her, she had been adopted by Mia prior to his and Mia's relationship. However, it's still highly inapropriate for him to start a relationship with someone who was so young and whom he had known since she was a fairly young child. Additionally, she is the sister to his bio son as well as his two adopted children with Mia. I just wanted to clarify the soon to adoption thing, but not trying to dismiss your overall comment

migratorypatterns

Yes, and there were those photos he'd been taking of her. No telling when the affair began. But there's nothing to see here ... move along.

KnightsofHubris

Soon Yi Previn's father is Andre Previn, Mia Farrow's previous husband.

Soon Yi is much younger than Allen but was an adult when their affair began.

OoLaLaFrenchGirl

Thank you for clarifying their initial relationship. However, I do question when their affair really began. Especially in light of his daughters claims as well as claims of nude photos of one of the young girls being found in the home. I certainly would not allow this man to get near any of my children.

KnightsofHubris

I certainly would not allow this man to get near any of my children.

This is pretty understandable.

nude photos of one of the young girls

We are still talking about Soon Yi here. She was grown woman at the time of these photos, 19 or 20. She was not a young girl.

We actually do know when their affair began. She was home from college and previously had never spent much time with Allen alone. Mia asked her to take Soon Yi to a basketball game and that's when they started.

I went to college in NJ, right in the NYC media market and remember everyone was following this pretty closely. This broke just as we were returning. I had a few journalism students in my dorm. They would break down which reporters were "Team Mia" and which were "Team Allen."

OoLaLaFrenchGirl

Thank you. I guess I misunderstood. I thought Soon Yi was a child when the photos were taken.

hisuiiro

Was an adult when they made the affair public.

KnightsofHubris

I believe even Mia said the affair started after Soon Yi came back from college and Mia encouraged Woody to take her to a Knicks game.

I remember when the gossip columns got that picture of the two of them at Knicks game that was a big story. One of the gossip columnists in a memoir talked about getting a picture of Soon Yi at college because there weren't many current pictures of her and it was not publically known where she went to college. They looked through the photos they had and saw her bag or her sweatshirt at an R on it and they went to Rutgers and other local colleges and then found her at Rider.

hisuiiro

Very jewishly convenient

AndrewBlazeIt

Prove it, spammer.

KnightsofHubris

This is kind of the basic facts of the case. Allen's relationship with Soon Yi was skeevy but not illegal.

You can look at any of the news reports from when this came out to find her age. Lots of the NY papers from back then are online.

I just did a search and here's an article on Woody and Mia from the year before the scandal broke. So this is not rationalization afterwards.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/02/24/magazine/woody-and-mia-a-new-york-story.html?pagewanted=all

She and Previn had three sons (Matthew, Sascha and Fletcher); then they adopted three orphan girls -- two Vietnamese (Lark and Daisy) and one Korean (Soon Yi). After their divorce, she adopted a Korean infant (Moses Amadeus Farrow), who has cerebral palsy. In 1985, Allen and Farrow adopted a newborn girl from Texas (Dylan O'Sullivan Farrow). Two years later, they had their own son (Satchel O'Sullivan Farrow, named after Satchel Paige, the baseball pitcher and a hero of Allen's; the last name was chosen because the couple didn't want one Allen among two Farrows and six Previns).

..... Allen and Farrow very much lead their own lives, while continuing a relationship that is the longest either has had. By any standard, it is not a conventional union. They are not married, neither do they live together; their apartments face each other across Central Park.

If you search "woody soon yi 1992" here's the descriptions from the summaries you see on the front page of google

...discovered sexually graphic Polaroids of her 19-year-old adopted daughter...... ..... an affair between Mr. Allen and Soon-Yi Previn, Ms. Farrow's 21-year-old adoptive daughter...... the relationship between her adopted daughter and Mr. Allen came to light when she discovered nude pictures of Ms. Previn, who was then 21,....Mar 20, 1993 - Mr. Allen, 57 years old, said that when he embarked on a sexual relationship with Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, 22, who was adopted by Ms. Farrow and her former husband, Andre Previn,.......Mr. Allen's romance with Soon-Yi Previn, 21 years old, whom Ms. Farrow adopted when she was married to.......while he was becoming involved with her 21-year-old adopted daughter, Soon-Yi Farrow Previn. .....Mr. Allen begins an affair with Soon-Yi Farrow Previn, the 21-year-old adopted daughter of Ms.

AndrewBlazeIt

NY Times and Google prove nothing.

KnightsofHubris

Look if you want to ignore the facts just say so. If you want to honestly look at this case, there's plenty of evidence out there.

AndrewBlazeIt

If your go-to sources are the NY Times and Google, you have nothing of actual value to contribute.

KnightsofHubris

keep putting your head in the sand. The trial was public, you can find many sources reporting these facts from back then. If you want to learn the facts, they are available to you and my post was accurate.

Not his step child.

Not underage.

AndrewBlazeIt

F-F-F-F-F-FAKE NEWS

grandmacaesar

allegedly an adult when their affair began.

AndrewBlazeIt

100% guilty.

Oh_Well_ian

“Dylan’s older brother Moses has said that he witnessed their mother … relentlessly coaching Dylan, trying to drum into her that her father was a dangerous sexual predator,” Allen said in a statement provided to TheWrap. “It seems to have worked — and, sadly, I’m sure Dylan truly believes what she says.”

“Even though the Farrow family is cynically using the opportunity afforded by the Time’s Up movement to repeat this discredited allegation, that doesn’t make it any more true today than it was in the past,” he added. “I never molested my daughter — as all investigations concluded a quarter of a century ago.”