As much as you want to shit on @crensch , he temp-modded me to v/pizzagate knowing full well what I would do. You can at least acknowledge that you gave him less credit than he deserves.

I'm just tired of BEING SHIT ON.

Gonna see how this pans out.

Thanks got a thread in PV to archive things you see anything else that needs it.

Where's the link to this?

delete some more posts without reading them.

Hidden away where no one looks.

@crensch you didn't add @srayzie to the list for number 4. do it.

@kevdude @vindicator

Go here and put your name on the list for number 4. I said I wanted to vote for number 4 and @crensch won't add me to the list because i'm persona non grata according to crensch. The rest of you pussies need to step up to the plate too. I realize crensch fucked us on this deal with it being a public vote but get off your ass and grow some balls. They are working over time to thwart us on this and you guys need to show up. Its time.

Crensch shouldn't you put @kevdude on the list? This is very 4ish to me

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2394933

@kevdude @vindicator

I’ll help you guys. Ban each other 😎

@Kevdude @Millennial_Falcon

That all you got? xD

Why do we need another thread? There have been three already. Why do we need another one? It just invites more fuckery because everybody is watching now and the shillery will only get thicker from here. Another thread is gonna be a cluster probably. And quite frankly I expect crensch and falcon to game it probably.

Dude go through this thread- there are several suspect accounts.

I noticed.

Aside from the main issue, can we just take a look at the "users" commenting here? I think I saw maybe one that seemed against MF that I wouldn't immediately call out as a shill on the rest of Voat.

@Disappointed @kevdude

I JUST got back, so I'm still digesting some of this, and may not be able to fully process it tonight, but THAT stood out to me as a safe and overlooked bit of information to comment on.

This shit has gone beyond strange. I have been an internet person for many years. Never in my life have I seen a mod go to this extreme to maintain power. Something very fishy is going on around here.

What the hell did I just see. @millennial_falcon deleted @kevdude thread and called him a sock puppet? Is this real?

I'm a good spook.

Rule 4: discussion of moderation concerns go on /pizzagate mods.

P.S. Holy sockpuppets, Batman!

I don't know how many people are willing to speak up and then risk him not getting demodded and have a target on their back but I am unafraid. We are also in a sub full of people that don't speak "nigger faggotese" all day and they don't like to be rude. Not to say that there are not some assholes around here but for the most part the serious posters are overly polite and usually won't speak their mind.

I think the answer is yes. Obviously. He constantly says he does not have enough time to mod as well. There are people that can handle it. @vindicator has offered to help and falcon told him no. Falcon's reason was "i said no because I didn't think you really WANTED to."

So Falcon read @vindicator mind for him. hmmmm.....Vindicator can pick himself some help. It can be handled.

This is long overdue. People have deletion fatigue really bad. It sux hard to spend days trying to round up material, put it in a format and word it in a way that people can understand. Pizzagate is a freaky rabbit hole and it takes years to even SEE the rabbit hole and explaining the rabbit hole to others is tedious enough as it is without having days of work blown right off the map by Falcon in an instant.

He also injects too much of his personal opinions into his modding and exceeds his mandate. @vindicator mentioned putting @think- less in that spot and I can only see that as a positive step in the right direction.

It's only Falcon and I modding these days, but I think with a couple of additional janitors -- @think- might be a good fit

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2394933/11926369

Step in the right direction. I think the whole sub would breathe a collective sigh of relief.

I don’t have anything really against MF. It seems he deletes a lot. Maybe for a good reason. Maybe not. We don’t often share the same opinion, but that is to be expected, and part of a useful process here. What about rotating other mods for a bit, some new faces; or taking a break? Is this guy paid? Are we talking about somebody getting fired and forced down to the free cheese line? Maybe we can avoid a drastic solution. I have seen many powerful reports that shills would LOVE to delete, and MF didn’t delete those. It sets a bad precedent if we start in against one of our own. I guess the question is if he is or not. The record is harsh but murky, IMO. How does he feel like taking a break for a week?

HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THE WOMEN KEV

Obviously

I vote we change the rules. What we have a problem with is the rules.

KEV!!!!!!! DO IT

YES PLEASE GOD YES

AND GET THE SPOOKS AWAY

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/submission

Speaks for itself if you read the way he interacts with people and his reasons for deleting.

DO IT FAGGOT

YES...

Fuckin Pedo...

Wrong subverse, ban @kevdude immediately...

On a more serious note, though:

I sincerely disagree.

Shot in the dark, but, so far as I can tell, at least one element of the anti-mod campaign(regardless of the mod targeted) is to deliberately make shit submissions and ultimately create a need for swift and excessive submission removal at times - multiply this by the course of a few months, a year, so on, it makes sense that some are going to eventually develop an itchy trigger finger when it comes to identifying and stamping out shitposting as quickly as possible.

@Millennial_Falcon has been one of the more active moderators and as such, it makes sense that he's sifted through a lot of bs and probably has a list of identifiers a mile long - sometimes the desire to be efficient can lead to mistakes in judgement, but, I firmly believe that MF's intent is to help.

Unfortunately, in order to help, he has to be willing to enforce the rules as consistently as possible - which DOES include taking down potentially legit submissions, if they don't meet the rules initially (I believe in giving time to edit, of course). It can be morbidly discouraging, but, it really is just a push to clarify/flesh-out what you're presenting - if you take it as less of a "we are censoring you" and more of a "help us to understand what you mean", it's easier to go back over your post to see what might have caused the rule breach.

All of that said, if you consider that there is a blatant effort to sew dissent around here and to undermine/usurp the mods/subverse rules, to cave in and remove MF or even @Crensch , would be a 'win' for the anti-mod crowd, it would foster further attacks on other mods, which already happen anyway - they're testing the boundaries to see if they can get an ACTUAL pedo supporter into the mod team - gotta wonder who...

Seeing as his personal life is a huge conflict of interest either he goes, or we go elsewhere.