Here's what the reality of trying to report an abused or trafficked child is like in California ( pizzagate )

submitted by ReddittRefugee

People keep saying that people should report elite pedophiles to the FBI, or to the police.

This is delusional.

First off, while the FBI does investigate and arrest "little people" pedophiles, They never go after Pizzagate-leverl pedophiles .

They are in fact, in charge of covering up for these pedophile rings.

If you want to see how that works, read Nick Bryant's book The Franklin Scandal: A Story of Powerbrokers, Child Abuse & Betrayal

In that book he describes in minute detail how FBI agents colluded with local police to intimidate the victims of the Franklin scandal into silence, even killing one of them and railroading two of them into jail.

Also, sometimes you get the right local police officers, and a report of a local abused child or small-time trafficker gets followed up on. But America's child trafficking investigation system is broken. Here's one woman's account of what happened (or more to the point, what didn't happen) when she tried to report a battered child who a woman appeared to be readying to sell:

http://www.sheknows.com/parenting/articles/1113557/thought-child-had-been-kidnapped

Is there any solution to this problem? I don't know.

Maybe Pizzagate investigaters could try to compile a list of honest, motivated law enforcement people who these crimes could be reported to?

21yearsofdigging

Absolutely agree. This however is the same all over. I went through it in Ontario, Canada

lamplight

So, we need to round up these corrupt police and expose them. Getting the Feds involved from the start might be the better way to go. Enough of this bs.

Matt_Helm

Money talks and cops and FIB agents want as much money as they can get that's why they cover up for the elite pedo players.

EffYouJohnPodesta

Yeah, I agree. FBI does not care. The cops are dirty AF

Oh_Well_ian

Any random honest LEO has about as much control over the wider directives of Law Enforcement as a Private has over Pentagon war planning.

Dauphin

This is true... I will never ever forget getting a random email on my "aol" account about 15 years ago... I was young and traumatized by this email! I'll never forget it. I opened and it said "It's Emily's 5th birthday and guess what she's getting" it took you to a website that I refused to click on... I will never get that email out of my head though... 15 years later... long story short, I called my local police, they didn't care. I called the FBI and forwarded the email and never heard anything. I called AOL and they told me to "block the sender." After calling about 4 people I realized no one cared and no one wanted to deal with it... it was quite shocking to me because I was REALLY UPSET at getting this email. I wanted that little girl saved. I still think about that poor child. THIS is why I am here. THIS is why I will NEVER give up on exposing this.

Anon8461261321

This is why I think there's a bit of state backlash against online vigilante paedo-hunter groups.

Gothamgirl

I spotted an ad on craigslist that clearly had noted pedophilia and child abuse. I called 911, spoke to 3 people. Spent 30 minutes on the phone and they wouldn't even look at the ad, or take a report. It's discouraging.

think-

Did they tell you why they wouldn't look into it?

Gothamgirl

No they told me to contact them and get the address, without there is nothing they could do.

fogdryer

that's bs. should have stuck to your guns and made them investiage get their names etc

most people just give up, that's what the police wanted you to do, give up. Please, that's her job right??? I'm sorry she treated you that way. Now you know better. I had a similar experience, we would not let it go, the police caved and then listened.....

Gothamgirl

I guess your right should've got their names. l was just baffled, shocked. After telling 3 people what needed to be done, I as told no and trying to talk to them got me no where. I wonder if I am able to get that info since 911 is recorded.

fogdryer

911 records are freedom of Info Act------------no ??

public records search maybe also.

ReddittRefugee

@Gothamgirl ,

I have a friend who reported a pedophile ad from Craigslist. This was from a number of years ago from before Craigslist was forced to clean up their sex ads.

He showed it to me, it was super blatant. It was a female pedophile saying she was visiting the city on business and wanted to have sex with a "tadpole" which is a term in the female pedophile community for an underage boy.

He actually took the ad to his local police station, and the cop who took the report agreed it looked pretty bad, so he gave him the number of the detective at police headquarters who was in charge of the vice department.

The detective took a report on the, but said it was unlikely he would do anything about it. His reasons:

1) Budget cuts. He already had lost 1 staff member because of reduced funding, and he said his officer assigned to pedophile cases already had his hands full with local cases, and trying to coordinate a case of someone coming from out of town would cost even more, and reduce the time the officer had for his current case load.

2) Unlikely prospects for successful prosecution. He said while he didn't like the fact, it is true that it's very hard to prosecute a female pedophile without the cooperation of parents (like cases where parents report a schoolteacher who commits pedophilia.) He said some people don't even believe female pedophiles exist, and if the case goes before a jury, and they don't have a cooperating witness who's an adult, the woman is very likely to get off. His budget was dependent on getting successful prosecutions, and he couldn't spend money on a case where the prospects for success were low.

Anyways, even though my friend couldn't get anything to happen, I think his approach of going to the police department and finding out who was responsible for pedophile cases was a good one.

Gothamgirl

Great advice. This was a few weeks ago. I think I may try to find it again. I may have screen captured it. It's not in this jurisdiction, but I am going try anyway.

Pablolove

This is the same with all sex crime. Even those reported leads to very few successful prosecutions.

GreenDell144

“Maybe Pizzagate investigaters could try to compile a list of honest, motivated law enforcement people who these crimes could be reported to?“

We should have thought of this... didn’t something like this come up? Please don’t tell me that all we got is Craig sawyer, sheriff arraigo and trey goody...

Either way... it is a necessary resource. Such a person would be a lightning rod for elite attacks.