Ok, my loose theory. Maddie was kidnaped by John and Tony before John entered the White House. The use of two brothers was to confuse. They stayed at Clems. Ghislaine was possibly involved . There were also reports of one of Rupert Murdoch’s yachts being there, maybe ghislaine loaned it?
. I believe it was a last dare to get John in the top job by taking a prize coloboma gift, pimped by Gerry . A ‘do the job yourself’ Dare. The final task.
I also wonder about the worlds greatest sale for a living artist a few months after the kidnapping. It was the $23 million hanging heart by Jeff Koons. I believe it is connected.
Who exactly is someone with information even supposed to contact?
The PI that worked for the McCanns is killed just a month or two ago. The environment is shown to be dangerous to anyone who has information in this investigation.
All these fucking murderers keep getting away with it and it's the same fucking people over and over again. The FBI has shown how fucking incompetent they are with the Florida shooting. Literally dozens of phone calls to multiple law enforcement agencies from multiple persons and they don't even start a basic investigation! You cannot make this shit up!
Its really unbelievable but all cover ups and pay offs. Look at this b.s from today: I actually followed this case and screamed when cops declared that this woman had "committed suicide." LLLOOOOLLLLLLL!!! So she bound her own arms and legs and then managed to tie a perfect knot to a bedpost and then throw herself off a balcony?? If it was obvious to the rest of the world who did it. how come the only folk who DIDNT see it were the San Diego Police Department
because they had been paid off by the pharmaceutical billionaire boyfriend
?
Its not incompetence. They know exactly 'whats up'...just like with Pedogate
@carmencita
Oh my God. So Blatantly Obvious. But people do not speak up. They have waited too long, they are too powerful. Now it will take a Bulldozer to Plow them over.
Another angle I heard was that someone put out these sketches and purposely made them look like the podestas to send a message to the bros, who may have been getting out of line.... not sure what to believe
It's part of the fundamental basis of pizzagate. It's about the idea that they can get away with it in plain sight. Remember the coincidences:
(1) John Podesta email account was dead (bouncebacks) until the day after Madeleine's disappearance and then came back online
(2) the photofits, well, fit
(3) in the Podesta emails there is a reference to him being away at the beginning of May 2007 but not to where
(4) in a recent report one of the holiday makers at the time noticed a man carrying a child, but dressed in a blazer. This is not what an English 30-40 year old male tourist would wear on holiday - ever. He said it looked like Gerry McCann, but so does Tony Podesta. In case you missed it here is the report and the striking wording is "The man carrying the girl was middle-aged and more formally dressed than the average tourist, in beige trousers and a dark blazer-like top."
Also, the stratfor email service (ie global intel daily country update)was down for three weeks by accident at this exact time . It’s in Wikileaks .
I also believe maddie McCann is the older girl in one of James alefantis photos with caris James. I believe James is part of a group with the welcome trust that breeds and rears these children . They will get away with calling it child trafficking, as technically/genetically they are related. Just like the Podestas and their 25 ‘brothers and sisters’
That's true about the emails disappearing around the kidnapping. How did we have our attention drawn towards the McCann case in the first place? Who actually made that connection.
Why is everyone so convinced that it is an actual kidnapping? Because the McCanns said so? I have no idea if the Podesta brothers were really involved -- but they did go to Portugal to vacation -- so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they were there when she went missing. But, I don't think Madeleine was kidnapped. Whatever happened to her, her parents know full well and were involved. Whether they were abusing her themselves -- or perhaps provided her to someone like Clement Freud (who also had a home in Portugal and invited the McCann's over for "support" after Maddie went missing), I don't know. I think the e-fits could well have been a threat to other members of the child sex trafficking ring that may have been involved in Maddie's death. But, I do think that the e-fits match the Podesta brothers very well and that is no coincidence. Perhaps the McCann's want it to be known that if the truth comes out about what really happened to Maddie, other, bigger fish are going to get caught up in that scandal, too. Just like Anthony Weiner having Clinton e-mails on his computer was probably an insurance policy to protect himself -- it seems that the e-fits may be serving the same purpose.
Of course, an alternative theory is that the e-fits were deliberately fashioned after the Podestas to make them seem ridiculous and to discredit any eyewitnesses who may have seen the real person who disposed of Maddie's body. I doubt we'll ever really know the truth because I think there are plenty of people who want to cover up the fact that "nice" families like the McCanns are into pedophilia. Swinging used to be the "in" thing to do for the upper class -- but as that is no longer taboo, they've had to move on to pedophilia. They like being able to get away with something that the average or lower classes can't. That is a major part of the attraction to pedophilia for people like the McCanns, Alefantis, Podestas, etc.
I definitely agree that the mcanns were in on it. What are the odds that in a few hours span, in a hotel they only stayed at for a few days, their daughter disappeared. It's one thing if it's a snatch and go but this would require surveillance to execute, unless employees were in on it. None of it ever made sense.
It could very well be that Madeleine was a compatible source of organs for a very important person and she had to be harvested fast. The highest in the food chain the operator is, the less foot soldiers have to be disposed of after the fact. But I do agree that it's ludicrous for them to do this. I suspect the efits are a clever psyop on the elites "We know what you are up to, even if we can't do anything about it." This has been SY's song for quite a few years...
Scotland Yard (officially New Scotland Yard) is a metonym for the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), the territorial police force responsible for policing most of London.
Scotland Yard is the detective branch of the UK London police? I really still don't understand that term. Why is it Scotland Yard and not England Yard?
Firstly this man, one man supposedly, was seen inside the holiday complex on the night Maddie went missing. Nobody said they saw him carrying Maddie or going into the apartment.
Secondly the police have many people who were in the area that they want to talk to and eliminate from their enquiries. If the Podestas were there how do you know they weren't with other people?
I think the e-fits were issued as a warning/blackmail threat to the Molestas, rather than accuse them of being the actual perps.
Insiders
that were central to this ridiculous case would have understood the meaning. Perhaps?
Well, were glad you don't think that way just goes to show you aren't a sociopath. A sociopath like the podestaswould get more than a small thrill doing something like this. I have always been suspect of that picture AND linking it to Pizzagate because of the far out nature of it, HOWEVER, there has been PLENTY of ancillary information that would suggest CLOSE TIES within that ENTIRE circle of 'Friends" that hang out in Pria De Luz.
This is small fries for people who rape toddlers to death to gain power from Lucifer. You're telling me this is a thrill to people who have already progressed to child rape and sacrifice?
This begs the question of "after the first child, what is the thrill of another?". Happily I have no answer other than possibly the thrill of audacity.
The level of torture and inhumity increases. They need to inflict greater and greater levels of depravity on their victims in order to experience the feeling of absolute power they felt the first time. Their drug is power, that's why they continue with more and more victims. What I find illogical is that THESE elites would personally kidnap a child and not send one of their many minions.
Short of demonology, this book is one of the most rational explanations I have seen for explaining our current political anarchism. In short, trying to analyze psychopathy from a normal human context will almost never reach a rational outcome. I can't explain ritual abuse at all but know a victim personally so I can only say that some behavior exists without a normal rational explication.
I would say it was probably something ritualistic about the snatch. I would say "initiation to the next level" or "test of loyalty" makes more sense than "rough sex went bad" in the room.
The McCanns were probably tied in with the rest of these creeps and into freaky shit. The McCann's were probably targeted by their own cabal to "offer a sacrifice" - most likely unwittingly, but were told "this is for...." and all they could do was stay quiet or be killed.
Podesta may have groomed her based on biology to be a vessel for reproduction. As well as his sex slave.
Lots of things about the McCann case make no sense. It's a total rabbit-hole.
There are some flags in relation to the case which indicate a paedophile connection. There was a statement made to the police about David Payne, one of the so-called 'Tapas Seven', when he apparently made jokes about Madeleine to her father that had a strong paedophile flavour. Then there is the fact that Clement Freud, a high-profile paedophile, had an apartment in Praia da Luz, and weirdly befriended the parents after the disappearance. It seems like a big stretch to link the Podestas though. Almost as big a stretch as a lead spook like JP having a password that was 'p@ssword'.
There's no way big shots like the Podestas would get their own hands dirty. They would have goons who would handle that end (a la Marc Dutroux/Dean Corll/John Wayne Gacy/Laura Silsby, etc.). It seems to me that, after Madeleine was accidentally killed by the paedophile(s) her parents had sold her out to and the bogus abduction scenario peddled, the McCann team put out the efits which bear such an uncanny resemblance to the Podestas (it's important to remember that the efits, which are based on an alleged sighting by the Smith family of a man carrying a child circa 10pm on the night Madeleine was reported mising, did not originate from the police but from ex MI5 operative Henri Exton who was working for fraudster Kevin Halligen, who was hired by the McCann team and whose blood sodden corpse was found in his/his girlfriend's home a few weeks ago. Indeed, in their initial statements, the Smiths told Portuguese authorities that they did not get a look at the man's face and would not recognise him if they saw him again) to serve as a warning that if it ever becomes expedient to throw the McCanns under the bus, they still have the capacity to take Madeleine's killer(s) down with them.
I can't believe it. I read the other day that someone thought that the McCann's were crisis actors. I nearly screamed. Also the comment above yours there is no period starting all the way from the second line down to the bottom. I can't read it. Had to read r times. I don't know how we do this every day. I got so depressed today. Someone did a post about Megan's Law voted unconstitutional in Pa. And some other laws protecting children from sex offenders. I cried. The post was deleted. If you want it I can find it.
Yeah, there are lot of fishy things with pizzagate. Seth Rich is another case that is suspicious af. I know there are many sick pedos out there but it's possible pizzagate in particular was set up on purpose. I have some reasons to think what I do but I won't go into them here.
I think they killed her accidentally during some rough sex now they have to get rid of her that is why the witness said he saw them walking with a "sleeping girl" she was dead not asleep they had to give her to someone to get rid of her fast that night.
I would like to go to my grave knowing WTF happened to this girl. Tbh, the sanest explanation I have heard to date is that the whole thing is rigged to usher in new era of microchipping kids and Kate and Gerry are crisis actors. It would explain a lot. Those two idiots are fkin mk-ultra twats if ever I saw a pair...
The two things I can't get past however is the eye coloboma (too coincidental) and Kate screaming out 'They've Taken Her' as a first reaction to the disappearance. WHO took her? How did Kate know someone had taken her? Who is the
"who"
We won't ever know the truth the British Government got involved right away to cover it up to muddy all the evidence tracks and that means powerful members of Parliament were involved in the pedo ring in Portugal. No way MI-6 and MI-5 would get involved unless high level Brits were in danger of being implicated in the sex party games with kids not just in Portugal but all over Europe.
That's an interesting take. The parents had given both of their daughters Benedryl so they would pass out. You think they drugged them so the Podesta's could come, take one for a few hours, then bring her back?
Maybe if they were renting her out by the hour it's possible. We won't ever know the truth the British Government got involved right away to cover it up to muddy all the evidence tracks and that means powerful members of Parliament were involved in the pedo ring in Portugal. No way MI-6 and MI-5 would get involved unless high level Brits were in danger of being implicated in the sex party games with kids not just in Portugal but all over Europe.
Always such an absurd conspiracy to me. These men are worth many millions of dollars, networked in the most elite pedophile circles and yet they personally go to kidnap a little girl in a foreign country? Elites pay people to do this for them!
You're assuming that they anticipate risk being involved. If the parents allowed or agreed to them abusing their daughter, they really didn't have much to fear. Something could have gone wrong as others have speculated and they actually didn't intend to kill her.
Dutroux in Belgium is the textbook example of such a procurer of children for elites. Still I could see some elites might enjoy the actual kidnapping as a twisted thrill.
One stumbling block is the two 'identikit' type pictures are supposed to be of one person. Also AFAIK it hasn't definitely been established the Podesta bros were in Portugal at that time, let alone staying at Freud's.
Initiation rites & blackmail. Maybe you don't realize how truly easy it is to get away with things in this world so long as you do it with confidence. I am a moral person, but I understand that it is fear that usually keeps people from doing things they shouldn't do, such as shoplifting. But, if you realize that the chances of you getting caught for your crime are so small, it makes doing any bad thing in this world much easier when you have the confidence
Sometimes its not about the money, but the power. Also having something you crave or lust after. Also, if you are part of an elite ring and a PM makes demands you don't back down.
▼ 1Saturnwest
Ok, my loose theory. Maddie was kidnaped by John and Tony before John entered the White House. The use of two brothers was to confuse. They stayed at Clems. Ghislaine was possibly involved . There were also reports of one of Rupert Murdoch’s yachts being there, maybe ghislaine loaned it?
. I believe it was a last dare to get John in the top job by taking a prize coloboma gift, pimped by Gerry . A ‘do the job yourself’ Dare. The final task. I also wonder about the worlds greatest sale for a living artist a few months after the kidnapping. It was the $23 million hanging heart by Jeff Koons. I believe it is connected.
▼ elephantdoesntforget
Who exactly is someone with information even supposed to contact?
The PI that worked for the McCanns is killed just a month or two ago. The environment is shown to be dangerous to anyone who has information in this investigation.
All these fucking murderers keep getting away with it and it's the same fucking people over and over again. The FBI has shown how fucking incompetent they are with the Florida shooting. Literally dozens of phone calls to multiple law enforcement agencies from multiple persons and they don't even start a basic investigation! You cannot make this shit up!
▼ millennial_vulcan
forgot to add link! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5440193/Dead-mother-naked-hanging-balcony.html
▼ millennial_vulcan
Its really unbelievable but all cover ups and pay offs. Look at this b.s from today: I actually followed this case and screamed when cops declared that this woman had "committed suicide." LLLOOOOLLLLLLL!!! So she bound her own arms and legs and then managed to tie a perfect knot to a bedpost and then throw herself off a balcony?? If it was obvious to the rest of the world who did it. how come the only folk who DIDNT see it were the San Diego Police Department
because they had been paid off by the pharmaceutical billionaire boyfriend?Its not incompetence. They know exactly 'whats up'...just like with Pedogate @carmencita
▼ elephantdoesntforget
Police depts are so afraid they are going to be sued, they only go after easy targets.
▼ carmencita
Oh my God. So Blatantly Obvious. But people do not speak up. They have waited too long, they are too powerful. Now it will take a Bulldozer to Plow them over.
▼ janet58
Excellent.I pray we will see justice soon for Madeline and all the children.
▼ Shizy
Another angle I heard was that someone put out these sketches and purposely made them look like the podestas to send a message to the bros, who may have been getting out of line.... not sure what to believe
▼ millennial_vulcan
And LOOK what happened to the guy who did that.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5265977/Maddie-McCann-detective-conman-Kevin-Halligen-dead.html
message received loud n clear.
▼ maggiethatcher
It's part of the fundamental basis of pizzagate. It's about the idea that they can get away with it in plain sight. Remember the coincidences:
(1) John Podesta email account was dead (bouncebacks) until the day after Madeleine's disappearance and then came back online
(2) the photofits, well, fit
(3) in the Podesta emails there is a reference to him being away at the beginning of May 2007 but not to where
(4) in a recent report one of the holiday makers at the time noticed a man carrying a child, but dressed in a blazer. This is not what an English 30-40 year old male tourist would wear on holiday - ever. He said it looked like Gerry McCann, but so does Tony Podesta. In case you missed it here is the report and the striking wording is "The man carrying the girl was middle-aged and more formally dressed than the average tourist, in beige trousers and a dark blazer-like top."
https://villagemagazine.ie/index.php/2018/02/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/
▼ 1Saturnwest
Also, the stratfor email service (ie global intel daily country update)was down for three weeks by accident at this exact time . It’s in Wikileaks . I also believe maddie McCann is the older girl in one of James alefantis photos with caris James. I believe James is part of a group with the welcome trust that breeds and rears these children . They will get away with calling it child trafficking, as technically/genetically they are related. Just like the Podestas and their 25 ‘brothers and sisters’
▼ gaystapo
That's true about the emails disappearing around the kidnapping. How did we have our attention drawn towards the McCann case in the first place? Who actually made that connection.
▼ scarlettm512
Why is everyone so convinced that it is an actual kidnapping? Because the McCanns said so? I have no idea if the Podesta brothers were really involved -- but they did go to Portugal to vacation -- so it isn't out of the realm of possibility that they were there when she went missing. But, I don't think Madeleine was kidnapped. Whatever happened to her, her parents know full well and were involved. Whether they were abusing her themselves -- or perhaps provided her to someone like Clement Freud (who also had a home in Portugal and invited the McCann's over for "support" after Maddie went missing), I don't know. I think the e-fits could well have been a threat to other members of the child sex trafficking ring that may have been involved in Maddie's death. But, I do think that the e-fits match the Podesta brothers very well and that is no coincidence. Perhaps the McCann's want it to be known that if the truth comes out about what really happened to Maddie, other, bigger fish are going to get caught up in that scandal, too. Just like Anthony Weiner having Clinton e-mails on his computer was probably an insurance policy to protect himself -- it seems that the e-fits may be serving the same purpose.
Of course, an alternative theory is that the e-fits were deliberately fashioned after the Podestas to make them seem ridiculous and to discredit any eyewitnesses who may have seen the real person who disposed of Maddie's body. I doubt we'll ever really know the truth because I think there are plenty of people who want to cover up the fact that "nice" families like the McCanns are into pedophilia. Swinging used to be the "in" thing to do for the upper class -- but as that is no longer taboo, they've had to move on to pedophilia. They like being able to get away with something that the average or lower classes can't. That is a major part of the attraction to pedophilia for people like the McCanns, Alefantis, Podestas, etc.
▼ gaystapo
I definitely agree that the mcanns were in on it. What are the odds that in a few hours span, in a hotel they only stayed at for a few days, their daughter disappeared. It's one thing if it's a snatch and go but this would require surveillance to execute, unless employees were in on it. None of it ever made sense.
▼ EvaEverywhere
It could very well be that Madeleine was a compatible source of organs for a very important person and she had to be harvested fast. The highest in the food chain the operator is, the less foot soldiers have to be disposed of after the fact. But I do agree that it's ludicrous for them to do this. I suspect the efits are a clever psyop on the elites "We know what you are up to, even if we can't do anything about it." This has been SY's song for quite a few years...
▼ millennial_vulcan
who is SY?
▼ EvaEverywhere
Scotland Yard (officially New Scotland Yard) is a metonym for the headquarters of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS), the territorial police force responsible for policing most of London.
▼ millennial_vulcan
Thank you guys! @2impendingdoom
Scotland Yard is the detective branch of the UK London police? I really still don't understand that term. Why is it Scotland Yard and not England Yard?
▼ EvaEverywhere
It has never made any sense :)
▼ 2impendingdoom
SY probably means scotland yard
▼ rickman
Maybe whatever took place happened in the apartment. No kidnapping required.
▼ rickman
Firstly this man, one man supposedly, was seen inside the holiday complex on the night Maddie went missing. Nobody said they saw him carrying Maddie or going into the apartment.
Secondly the police have many people who were in the area that they want to talk to and eliminate from their enquiries. If the Podestas were there how do you know they weren't with other people?
▼ millennial_vulcan
I think the e-fits were issued as a warning/blackmail threat to the Molestas, rather than accuse them of being the actual perps. Insiders that were central to this ridiculous case would have understood the meaning. Perhaps?
▼ Matt_Helm
Yep the e-fits look exactly like John and Tony definitely a warning and blackmail no other explanation for it.
▼ ASolo
Well, were glad you don't think that way just goes to show you aren't a sociopath. A sociopath like the podestaswould get more than a small thrill doing something like this. I have always been suspect of that picture AND linking it to Pizzagate because of the far out nature of it, HOWEVER, there has been PLENTY of ancillary information that would suggest CLOSE TIES within that ENTIRE circle of 'Friends" that hang out in Pria De Luz.
NOT far fetched for sociopaths, remember that.
▼ gaystapo
This is small fries for people who rape toddlers to death to gain power from Lucifer. You're telling me this is a thrill to people who have already progressed to child rape and sacrifice?
▼ Earthbalance2
This begs the question of "after the first child, what is the thrill of another?". Happily I have no answer other than possibly the thrill of audacity.
▼ gaystapo
The level of torture and inhumity increases. They need to inflict greater and greater levels of depravity on their victims in order to experience the feeling of absolute power they felt the first time. Their drug is power, that's why they continue with more and more victims. What I find illogical is that THESE elites would personally kidnap a child and not send one of their many minions.
▼ Earthbalance2
I recommend reading POLITICAL PONEROLOGY:
http://www.ponerology.com
Short of demonology, this book is one of the most rational explanations I have seen for explaining our current political anarchism. In short, trying to analyze psychopathy from a normal human context will almost never reach a rational outcome. I can't explain ritual abuse at all but know a victim personally so I can only say that some behavior exists without a normal rational explication.
▼ ASolo
Too much exposure over this case, too big a cover-up and too many big names to give any leeway to this potential lead.
▼ millennial_vulcan
@ASolo , you have never really given your take on what you think happened. I'd really like to know :)
▼ Blacksmith21
I would say it was probably something ritualistic about the snatch. I would say "initiation to the next level" or "test of loyalty" makes more sense than "rough sex went bad" in the room.
The McCanns were probably tied in with the rest of these creeps and into freaky shit. The McCann's were probably targeted by their own cabal to "offer a sacrifice" - most likely unwittingly, but were told "this is for...." and all they could do was stay quiet or be killed.
Podesta may have groomed her based on biology to be a vessel for reproduction. As well as his sex slave.
I pray for her soul and to be found alive.
▼ Fateswebb
Political immunity for diplomats
▼ pby1000
They get off on it?
▼ kazza64
the cadaver dogs found traces of a dead body inside the room and in the car the parents rented
▼ cutelobster
Lots of things about the McCann case make no sense. It's a total rabbit-hole. There are some flags in relation to the case which indicate a paedophile connection. There was a statement made to the police about David Payne, one of the so-called 'Tapas Seven', when he apparently made jokes about Madeleine to her father that had a strong paedophile flavour. Then there is the fact that Clement Freud, a high-profile paedophile, had an apartment in Praia da Luz, and weirdly befriended the parents after the disappearance. It seems like a big stretch to link the Podestas though. Almost as big a stretch as a lead spook like JP having a password that was 'p@ssword'.
▼ Podge512
There's no way big shots like the Podestas would get their own hands dirty. They would have goons who would handle that end (a la Marc Dutroux/Dean Corll/John Wayne Gacy/Laura Silsby, etc.). It seems to me that, after Madeleine was accidentally killed by the paedophile(s) her parents had sold her out to and the bogus abduction scenario peddled, the McCann team put out the efits which bear such an uncanny resemblance to the Podestas (it's important to remember that the efits, which are based on an alleged sighting by the Smith family of a man carrying a child circa 10pm on the night Madeleine was reported mising, did not originate from the police but from ex MI5 operative Henri Exton who was working for fraudster Kevin Halligen, who was hired by the McCann team and whose blood sodden corpse was found in his/his girlfriend's home a few weeks ago. Indeed, in their initial statements, the Smiths told Portuguese authorities that they did not get a look at the man's face and would not recognise him if they saw him again) to serve as a warning that if it ever becomes expedient to throw the McCanns under the bus, they still have the capacity to take Madeleine's killer(s) down with them.
▼ millennial_vulcan
you couldn't make this shit up if you tried. Next James Bond script, right here..
@carmencita !!
▼ carmencita
I can't believe it. I read the other day that someone thought that the McCann's were crisis actors. I nearly screamed. Also the comment above yours there is no period starting all the way from the second line down to the bottom. I can't read it. Had to read r times. I don't know how we do this every day. I got so depressed today. Someone did a post about Megan's Law voted unconstitutional in Pa. And some other laws protecting children from sex offenders. I cried. The post was deleted. If you want it I can find it.
▼ millennial_vulcan
carm I haven't got the strength. I have enough nightmares about Heather :(
▼ carmencita
There is a Steven Spielberg connection https://www.indiatimes.com/entertainment/celebs/did-you-know-sridevi-turned-down-steven-spielberg-s-offer-to-act-in-jurassic-park-340461.html
▼ Cc183
I believe this is TRUE pizzagate in its core. McCann "had" coloboma. Certain billionaire named Soros has coloboma.
And then there is this. https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2016/08/02/peter-thiel-is-out-for-young-peoples-blood/
You need to have a matching supply.
▼ millennial_vulcan
I remember reading many threads on Voat re Thiel. If you google Thiel and Voat Pizzagate they should all come up. From about a year ago.
▼ ifeelamemecomingon
Yeah, there are lot of fishy things with pizzagate. Seth Rich is another case that is suspicious af. I know there are many sick pedos out there but it's possible pizzagate in particular was set up on purpose. I have some reasons to think what I do but I won't go into them here.
▼ kazza64
your link is a bad connection
▼ Matt_Helm
I think they killed her accidentally during some rough sex now they have to get rid of her that is why the witness said he saw them walking with a "sleeping girl" she was dead not asleep they had to give her to someone to get rid of her fast that night.
▼ millennial_vulcan
I would like to go to my grave knowing WTF happened to this girl. Tbh, the sanest explanation I have heard to date is that the whole thing is rigged to usher in new era of microchipping kids and Kate and Gerry are crisis actors. It would explain a lot. Those two idiots are fkin mk-ultra twats if ever I saw a pair...
The two things I can't get past however is the eye coloboma (too coincidental) and Kate screaming out 'They've Taken Her' as a first reaction to the disappearance. WHO took her? How did Kate know someone had taken her? Who is the "who"
I'll never understand this stupid case.
▼ Matt_Helm
We won't ever know the truth the British Government got involved right away to cover it up to muddy all the evidence tracks and that means powerful members of Parliament were involved in the pedo ring in Portugal. No way MI-6 and MI-5 would get involved unless high level Brits were in danger of being implicated in the sex party games with kids not just in Portugal but all over Europe.
▼ UnicornAndSparkles
Bingo Matt!
▼ gaystapo
That's an interesting take. The parents had given both of their daughters Benedryl so they would pass out. You think they drugged them so the Podesta's could come, take one for a few hours, then bring her back?
▼ Matt_Helm
Maybe if they were renting her out by the hour it's possible. We won't ever know the truth the British Government got involved right away to cover it up to muddy all the evidence tracks and that means powerful members of Parliament were involved in the pedo ring in Portugal. No way MI-6 and MI-5 would get involved unless high level Brits were in danger of being implicated in the sex party games with kids not just in Portugal but all over Europe.
▼ gaystapo
That actually makes sense.
▼ Earthbalance2
More likely if Benadryl was given it had a contraindication with anything else that was given:
http://bodyandhealth.canada.com/drug/getdrug/benadryl
Even giving Benadryl to a child under the age of 12 is not advisable. Muscle relaxants are allegedly a common tool of pedos...
▼ Shizy
And what really pisses me off about the Benadryl thing is both parents are doctors!
▼ Earthbalance2
Which implicates them all the more IMO.
▼ Vindicator
That's the most logical thing I've heard re: this story.
▼ gaystapo
Always such an absurd conspiracy to me. These men are worth many millions of dollars, networked in the most elite pedophile circles and yet they personally go to kidnap a little girl in a foreign country? Elites pay people to do this for them!
▼ Shizy
You're assuming that they anticipate risk being involved. If the parents allowed or agreed to them abusing their daughter, they really didn't have much to fear. Something could have gone wrong as others have speculated and they actually didn't intend to kill her.
▼ sore_ass_losers
Dutroux in Belgium is the textbook example of such a procurer of children for elites. Still I could see some elites might enjoy the actual kidnapping as a twisted thrill.
One stumbling block is the two 'identikit' type pictures are supposed to be of one person. Also AFAIK it hasn't definitely been established the Podesta bros were in Portugal at that time, let alone staying at Freud's.
▼ OhRutherfordBehave
Initiation rites & blackmail. Maybe you don't realize how truly easy it is to get away with things in this world so long as you do it with confidence. I am a moral person, but I understand that it is fear that usually keeps people from doing things they shouldn't do, such as shoplifting. But, if you realize that the chances of you getting caught for your crime are so small, it makes doing any bad thing in this world much easier when you have the confidence
▼ carmencita
Sometimes its not about the money, but the power. Also having something you crave or lust after. Also, if you are part of an elite ring and a PM makes demands you don't back down.