What does Elvis Costello know? ( pizzagate )

submitted by Enigmatic_Continuum

I think I may have found some info that deserves deeper research, and this is related to Pizzagate because it is related to the music industry, politics, and child molestation.

On page 202 of the book titled "Elvis Costello, Joni Mitchell, and the Torch Song Tradition", it talks about a photograph of a politician kissing a baby that was supposed to mean "Kiss them now, kill them later." Costello describes this as the "ultimate act of betrayal," then immediately talks about his song Tramp the Dirt Down and how he wants to witness Margaret Thatcher's burial and help stomp the dirt down. Remember that Margaret Thatcher was good friends with Jimmy Savile.

Then, on page 221, the text talks about a song that describes a child getting molested in a church.

https://books.google.com/books?id=OO5hQBVPoOAC&pg=PA221&lpg=PA221&dq=joni+mitchell+molested&source=bl&ots=SWWFvBSFrR&sig=ojeQYbUeaGJkeYqW3noumvbHd1E&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcvJySudHZAhXH0FMKHe0fA5IQ6AEIWDAG#v=onepage&q=joni%20mitchell%20molested&f=false

He's got my full respect here, too:

On 15 May 2010, Costello announced he would withdraw from a concert performed in Israel in opposition to Israel's treatment of Palestinians. In a statement on his website, Costello wrote, "It has been necessary to dial out the falsehoods of propaganda, the double game and hysterical language of politics, the vanity and self-righteousness of public communiqués from cranks in order to eventually sift through my own conflicted thoughts." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Costello

But Shipbuilding resounds with an intense political anger, I say. “Yes, but I didn’t think it was going to stop the war. I don’t really want to be called political, because, you know, who is political? Politicians. How many of them do you want to call friends? Not very many.”

His talk of politicians gives me an opening to ask him about his native England, which he quit for Ireland, then the US, and then Canada, where he now lives with his jazz-pianist wife, Diana Krall, and their eight-year-old twin sons, Dexter and Frank. No point beating about the bush: what does he think of David Cameron? “I try not to think about Cameron. I’ve just eaten!”

And Jeremy Corbyn? Costello says he’s been amused by the way the rightwing press is portraying the new Labour leader as a major threat to British national security. “Corbyn can’t actually change anything, even inside his own party. So what are they so afraid of, if not another opinion? He’s just expressing views that are different from theirs – I thought that was democracy.” https://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/oct/16/elvis-costello-interview-people-have-no-idea

Gee, I wonder what turns his stomach about Cameron?

And what about Joni Mitchell? Was she abused as a child, then allowed her daughter to be abused?

In the book "Dancing in Hell" by Daniel West, there's a chapter titled "Making Her Case for Her: Both Sides Now - Joni Mitchell" where the narrator describes a young girl being molested by her uncle and the girl's mother allowing it to happen because she was also molested by the same relative. Scroll until you see the chapter title. Unable to copy and paste text. https://books.google.com/books?id=ZAxXCAAAQBAJ&pg=PT82&lpg=PT82&dq=joni+mitchell+molested&source=bl&ots=KQQY0MdBeU&sig=SmBb2MFXRL7k8NAMILh5_t6S6mc&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjcvJySudHZAhXH0FMKHe0fA5IQ6AEIYTAI#v=onepage&q&f=false

Again, the above is just what I've found significant according to my interpretations of the text and I'm not claiming to have read either of these books cover to cover, so feel free to add anything else you find and we'll see where it goes.

burnitalldown

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Enigmatic_Continuum

Wow! Thanks for digging that up. Although, while Costello hates Thatcher, he still sides with Clinton and Abramovic, so he's still pretty creepy.

burnitalldown

No problem. I always wondered about those paddles on display in Comet Ping Pong. Thatcher being friends with Savile is a huge red flag to me. We know, without a doubt, that Savile was a pedophile. Unless, the video of him touching that girl on TV was fake, Johnny Rotten (John Lydon) lying, endless reports of molestation lies....he was a pedophile. That's what we know for sure.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Most definitely. It's just a shame that those who knew what he was didn't speak up before he died. I find it egregious that Savile was given a key to the Children's Hospital, and people saw him going in there at night, but nobody said a word.

Optional-Reading

I think are there is left to know are the big names involved. By now if you believe pizzagate is real you have accepted as truth that powerful elite take advantage of children all over the world. They convince others to do the same and use that to extort them for life. Now we just need to know who they are. Charlie Sheen, Robin WIlliams, Kevin Spacey, Harvey Weinstein, Bill Cosby, Roman Polanski, Bill Clinton, are obvious ones. I want to hear about other big names like Spielberg, etc.

2impendingdoom

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZGfBWPRXaI

Children and animals, two by two Give me the needle give me the rope We're gonna melt them down for pills and soap Give me the needle Give me the rope We are going To melt them down For Pills And Soap

Enigmatic_Continuum

Lyrics to King of Thieves:

I'll tell your fortune in a minute or two I might even tell you what comes next The moguls want a human sacrifice And look at that girl - young, hungry and perplexed They took away the best years of her life Ah, but it's all in good fun And if you kept your nose clean You can laugh now at the caring things they've done

Enigmatic_Continuum

Yeah, I'm going to have to delete this thread. Costello isn't who he first appeared to be.

The Works Presents is, for now, unavailable on the RTE Player. I'll see what i can do, My thanks to Gabriel Byrne, Marina Abramovic, Elvis Costello, Amanda Coogan, Jennifer Johnson, Philip Glass, Glen Hansard, Sean Scully, Kevin Barry & Enda Walsh http://www.thisisjohnkelly.com/latest/P50

Are_we_sure

Wow.

You never listened to him closely did you?

Enigmatic_Continuum

Those certainly are creepy lyrics. This guy has me completely baffled. He rejects England's elite, but performs at Hillary Clinton's 60th birthday and Obama's inauguration. What's up with that?

burnitalldown

Maybe he didn't know much about them.

2impendingdoom

he probably needed the money.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Could be! If that's the case, he has no scruples and deserves nothing.

Enigmatic_Continuum

I'm starting to think this guy is confused or brainwashed. Why would he shun England's elite and support America's? It doesn't make sense.

Sam Moore will join Costello and Sting at Obama‘s Official inauguration Concert at the Harman Center of the Arts in Washington DC on January 20.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/elvis-costello-rock-hillary-clinton-party-article-1.226592

Are_we_sure

I'm starting to think this guy is confused or brainwashed. Why would he shun England's elite and support America's? It doesn't make sense.

Lol.

Perhaps are trying to shoehorn a real person into an ideological construct you made up?

Perhaps the situations in the UK and the USA are different?

ben_matlock

This ☝

Enigmatic_Continuum

Yeah, they actually are one in the same, you gnat. http://articles.latimes.com/1993-12-01/news/mn-62855_1_queen-elizabeth-s-court

Now, be gone.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Of course, I could be wrong about him... Why would Costello hate Thatcher, but like the Clinton's?

Costello married his third wife, the jazz pianist and singer Diana Krall, in 2003. His reputation in his adopted homeland received a huge boost last month with news that he was headlining at Hillary Clinton's 60th birthday party to help make it "younger, hipper, more fun". Revelations of the Clintons' love of Costello had even led to speculation that they named their only daughter, Chelsea, after Costello's hit. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/goodbye-cruel-uk-elvis-costello-turns-his-back-on-his-native-land-399429.html

Apparently, Elvis Costello thinks Hillary Clinton's aim is true.

The bespectacled Mod rocker has signed on to perform for the White House hopeful's 60th birthday bash, dubbed "A Celebration in Support of America's Next President."

The former First Lady is still figuring out how to mark her actual birthday, but the week will start with another celebrity-studded birthday bonanza at the home of Hollywood director Rob Reiner, with tickets starting at $2,300.

The high-powered hosts of her birthday bash include Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), Gov. Spitzer, New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine, and Harlem Rep. Charles Rangel.

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/elvis-costello-rock-hillary-clinton-party-article-1.226592

I'm totally confused now. I would never have guessed that someone who despised Thatcher could actually support Killary Clinton.

HennyPenny

http://kesselministries.com/vow.html Is the big guy with the long braids, eyeglasses and guitar Larry King?

carmencita

Funny you bring up Costello. Was he not married to Julia Roberts? My mind traveled to the thought of her being in Mystic Pizza. Never having seen the movie, does anyone know could this have been another Message Movie? Just a thought.

Enigmatic_Continuum

I think you're thinking of Lyle Lovett. I know the movie Mystic Pizza has been brought up before, but it's been a while. Maybe time to revisit that one.

carmencita

Oh my gosh! Thanks for clearing that up. That's why I did not make a positive statement, but asked if he was married to her. I admit I have mixed up Lovett and Costello before. But that movie is what popped into my mind and yes, it should be revisited, one way or the other, Costello or not.

Enigmatic_Continuum

You're welcome, but I'm thinking this thread should be deleted. I just discovered that Costello is a huge fan of Hillary and Obama. :(

carmencita

Believe me I know a lot of yahoos that are still living in that dream world, but they are not pedos or supporters. I agree it should be deleted IF it is proven that he has any connections to pizzagate. We should def research him first. We should know one way or the other. This is a good time to get into his background. But it's your post and your decision.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Agreed. He is an interesting character though because he hates one faction, yet buddies up to another. The fact that he lives in Canada now is interesting, too. I'll have to find out when he moved there. I'll leave it up for a little bit longer, then delete it. As always, thanks for your input, Carm!

carmencita

No problem. Wish we had a huge team of researchers to investigate all these people, but sadly, we don't. Any connections to Montreal or Trudeau would be significantly suspect.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Good idea! As I just found he's connected to Abramovic, I'll search to see if he's buddies with Trudeau.

carmencita

U of Montreal known for MK U. Also Pierre T Found. Any donations. Krall should also be looked at. On phone low battery.

Enigmatic_Continuum

He is indeed associated with Trudeau and Montreal due to his attendance and performance at Leonard Cohen's tribute concert. http://www.cbcmusic.ca/posts/19265/things-you-missed-at-leonard-cohen-tribute-concert

carmencita

OOH, yeah. Abel Danger had a really good article on Leonard Cohen and his being MK Ultra. God are any of them untouched? Seems not.

Enigmatic_Continuum

No kidding! Got a link?

carmencita

I have been looking for that same article on and off. I seem to find a facsimile but never the exact one. I will try looking for it now, since I would like to read again.

Are_we_sure

He was not married to Julia Roberts.

kazza64

i think any celebrity who rubbed shoulders with the elite in their circles knows secrets they cant tell

Enigmatic_Continuum

Agreed, especially now that I've found he's good friends with the Clintons, Obama, and Abramovic. So disappointing.

ben_matlock

hi EC, interesting topic, but I'm not really seeing any clear connections to pizzagate, as defined in Rule 1 of the Submission Rules (found in the sidebar.) if you are able to find relevant info related to this topic, kindly reply to this message within 24 hours so that we can remove the flair; otherwise we'll have to delete it.

thanks, and keep digging!

Enigmatic_Continuum

Oh, boy. Here's the rub:

The Works Presents is, for now, unavailable on the RTE Player. I'll see what i can do, My thanks to Gabriel Byrne, Marina Abramovic, Elvis Costello, Amanda Coogan, Jennifer Johnson, Philip Glass, Glen Hansard, Sean Scully, Kevin Barry & Enda Walsh http://www.thisisjohnkelly.com/latest/P50

burnitalldown

@ben_matlock

I'm 100% positive there is or was a red ping pong paddle in comet ping pong with Margaret Thatcher on it.

All you have to do is dig up the pic on Yelp reviews and this post can't be removed.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Hi, Ben. I know this is obscure evidence, but I'm hoping more can be found besides the few excerpts I have taken from these two books, which I stumbled upon after seeing that Joni Mitchell was just at David Geffen's birthday party. I did a google search for 'Joni Mitchell molested' and this is where I found this info about Costello and Mitchell. I think there's more to find, and I'll be digging today to find more. Thanks for the additional time.

YogSoggoth

I read a long time ago that the song Coyote was about a ritual satanic abuse that happened in the desert. A coyote is, of course, someone who brings in illegal aliens from Mexico.

Enigmatic_Continuum

That's interesting, and would appreciate it if you could find a link. Some of his song lyrics do appear suspect.

YogSoggoth

Sorry, I confused Joni with Baez "Welcome Me"

Welcome me to The City of Angels Devil prophets still hold my hand I walked your stillborn streets for hours Ethnic echoes spitting out their trials They tell me I'll

I'll be the first to praise the sun The first to praise the moon The first to hold the lone coyote Last to set it free

Welcome me to a haven given Oh, it's well received into my open arms Oh, I, I ran in my sleep through shaking tremors I felt the splitting earth echoing in my ears And I feel it all

I'll be the first to praise the sun The first to praise the moon The first to hold the lone coyote The last to set it free

Welcome me to your City of Angels There's a Devil monkey laying on our backs Now tell me, where's the heart? Where's the bullet for breaking? Who's gonna give me a weapon, a pacifying weapon? An' I need it all

I'll be the first to praise the sun The first to praise the moon, oh The first to hold the lone coyote The last to set it free I said, I said, "Welcome me"

I'll be the first to praise the sun The first to praise the moon, oh The first to hold the lone coyote The last to set it free I said, "Welcome me"

ben_matlock

perhaps you are reading too much into it (one shouldn't necessarily view every situation through a pizzagate lens.) i think it's more likely that Elvis Costello is simply a lefty singer and lefties are supposed to always hate on 'righties' (Margaret Thatcher, in this case). that would explain your confusion regarding the EC/HC connection imo. remember, to normies, MT and HC are on opposite sides of the political spectrum.

Enigmatic_Continuum

You might be right, but something is still nagging at me about this guy. I don't play into this left/right paradigm, so maybe this just proves that they all actually play for the same team, but act like they don't. Hard to determine right now, but strange nonetheless. It is interesting that he's associated with Abramovic...

Are_we__sure

then immediately talks about his song Tramp the Dirt Down and how he wants to witness Margaret Thatcher's burial and help stomp the dirt down on her grave. Remember that Margaret Thatcher was good friends with Jimmy Savile.

Given that this song was written long before the Savile story broke, he might want to tramp the dirt down for other reasons....like the ones he mentions in the song.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks for making an appearance. I guess this means I'm on to something! Well, might Costello have known what Thatcher was BEFORE the Savile story broke? I'm sure a lot of people knew, but didn't say anything.

Are_we_sure

Thanks for making an appearance. I guess this means I'm on to something!

Does that actually make sense to you? People say this a lot like like it's a valid piece of thinking.

My teacher said I got all the answers wrong, so I must be doing something right.

I told my friend that the drummer in the Beatles was Paul. He said I was wrong! What a normie!!

Enigmatic_Continuum

You're a bit dense, so I'll spell it out for you. What I and others mean is that you only seem to show up in threads that need derailed. Got it?

Are_we_sure

Says the guy who just now is realizing he doesn't understand Elvis Costello's politics. Literally, a guy who derailed his own thread is saying this.

Enigmatic_Continuum

I hardly derailed my thread, I just revealed that he's actually a slimy guy who hangs out with the Clintons and Abramovic. This is what true research accomplishes. I dug deeper and found out he's not such an upstanding guy after all. Good researchers dig deeper and aren't afraid to admit they were wrong.

Shizy

Just because the Savile story hadn't broken in the media doesn't mean dozens upon dozens of people didn't already know about it. You're getting lazy shill!

Are_we__sure

Listen to the damn song before spouting off like a moron.

Shizy

Does my logical argument scare you shill boy? Piss off

Are_we__sure

Were you making one?

The song's about avarice and greed.

Shizy

uh yeah shill - that just because the story hadn't broken in the news yet didn't mean buttloads of people didn't already know savile was a pedo! But like always you have to deflect and derail to steer everything in the direction you want it.

Good little shill, here's your cookie!

Are_we_sure

uh yeah shill

You're immediately buying into a theory you just learned about and you're calling it logical.

Elvis Costello has talked many, many times about that song and why he wrote it. It has absolutely zero to do with Jimmy Savile. Costello had a long standing and public antipathy to Margaret Thatcher's policies and wrote at least three songs that deal with them, probably more.

pixiesbitch

I’m not agreeing with anybody, but Maggie Thatcher is a well known hated figure in Britain and people hate her for MANY reasons, not just Saville, I’m sure Costello was the same

derram

https://archive.fo/LAHXQ :

Elvis Costello: ‘The only reason to write about showbusiness is to point out the absurdity of it all’ | Music | The Guardian

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