angelafogo

Whoever he be of the Sons of Israel or of the strangers that sojourn in Israel, that gives any of his seed l'Molech; he shall surely be put to death: the people of the land shall stone him with stones. And I will set my face against that man and will cut him off from among his people; because he has given of his seed l'Molech, to defile my sanctuary, and to profane my holy name. And if the people of the land do at all hide their eyes from that man, when he gives of his seed l'Molech, and do not kill him, then I will set my face against that man, and against his family, and will cut him off, and all that go astray after him, whoring l'Molech from among the people

Leviticus 20:2

johnthemanchild

One of hillary's emails was about a friend offering a chicken to Moloch...and of course it is a big deal , giant statue) at Bohemian Grove...where all the super rich , presidents, CEOs etc. go to be boys will be boys.

"Malkam is each time specifically mentioned as a god of the Ammonites, while Molek is generally depicted as a god worshipped by the Israelites in the context of the "passing through fire" of their children (with the exception of 1 Kings 11:7, which mentions "Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon", widely ...

Looks like it is Israel's god? If so, why is there this gigantic stature at Bohemian Grove..mock services of offering a human being..

Moloch - Wikipedia

angelafogo

THIS THREAD EXPANDS TO THIS => https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2436220

carmencita

Well! Look what you will find when you research. Looked up Salammbo and it took me to Moloch which took me to a poem HOW written by Allen Ginsberg and found out he was a huge supporter of (drum roll) NAMBLA Ginsberg was a supporter and member of North American Man/Boy Love Association (NAMBLA), a pedophilia and pederasty advocacy organization in the United States that works to abolish age of consent laws and legalize sexual relations between adults and children,[96] saying that "Attacks on NAMBLA stink of politics, witchhunting for profit, humorlessness, vanity, anger and ignorance ... I'm a member of NAMBLA, because I love boys too — everybody does, who has a little humanity."[97] In "Thoughts on NAMBLA", a 1994 essay published in the collection Deliberate Prose, Ginsberg stated, "NAMBLA's a forum for reform of those laws on youthful sexuality which members deem oppressive, a discussion society not a sex club. I joined NAMBLA in defense of free speech."[98] In 1994, Ginsberg appeared in a documentary on NAMBLA called Chicken Hawk: Men Who Love Boys (playing on the gay male slang term "Chickenhawk"), in which he read a "graphic ode to youth".[96] His poem HOW included a referral to Moloch by saying to give up something precious. Wonder what his involvement with Satanism was. Have not gone that far yet. He proclaimed to be a Buddhist.

Cc1914

Whoa ! Now this is a good find !

carmencita

Here is my reply to angela fogo:

UGH! OMG! Yes! the Chickenhawk/box The stuff on here to remember is never ending. That makes so much sense now, connecting the sacrificing of children to Moloch and sacrificing of a child's soul with pedophilia. It all connects. Taking of the child. NAMBLA has a Satanic relation.

GreenDell144

Remember the Podesta email about sacrificing a chicken to Moloch?

carmencita

Yes, sent to HRC from Cheryl Mills. https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/14333 It was at the bottom of an email about Honduras

angelafogo

Carmencita please take a look at my recent post that expands this one. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2436220

carmencita

You have not satisfied the pizzagate connection on your last post. I think they want different wording. Please do not let them delete. It is too valuable of a post. Also provide connection for the new post. We need these. they are so very important in spreading the truth to Newbies and even for our own references. Thank you.

angelafogo

Great find carmencita! Moloch is the god of Pedophilia per se. Flaubert did extensive research and even travel to the site of Carthage to write his book. His account of the sacrifices of children to Moloch is very academic.

Chicken Hawks... Remember the place in Nantucket which Jimmy Fallon cryptically mentions? The Chicken Box? Which Meghan Traynor says "I performed there when i was 13, after a certain hour it can get a little dirty"?

carmencita

UGH! OMG! Yes! the Chickenhawk/box The stuff on here to remember is never ending. That makes so much sense now, connecting the sacrificing of children to Moloch and sacrificing of a child's soul with pedophilia. It all connects. Taking of the child. NAMBLA has a Satanic relation.

153sdsd

Wow wow, this is one of the best threads I have seen in a while, the pizzagate forum is the only one really onto the truth of the world elite, thanks for all you do, and keep up the god fight, lets spread this

angelafogo

Thanks. Please note the post expands into another one made today. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2436220

YogSoggoth

Thanks for bringing up Metropolis. The CIA film Eraserhead was designed to mess up kids minds, and was loosely based on this IMOO.

angelafogo

Do you have a link to prove the relationship?

YogSoggoth

Not really, we just watched it because the rich kids said it was cool, and later heard that it was that from the same kids. I grew up in the most affluent place on Earth twice. That was decades ago, and when you watch the two films together it is kind of obvious. Maybe when you are up East you could ask Ben Barenholtz. While you are at it you can ask about El Topo and Holy Mountain.

angelafogo

I have seen jodorowskys work and i know it is satanic

pixiesbitch

that video is evil. truly. i can feel it. that video is probably real. don't watch it...

Shizy

Molech represents child sacrifice

Astrotheologist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8C9DK2mSvco Start this video at 39 minutes. Richard Willing gives a great synopsis of the history of money and how it relates to Moloch and Religion. From what I understood, Moloch is a symbol for the discovery of interest. You have to believe one thing, that money can grow without earth, air, water, or sunlight.
Moses' burning bush is a symbol of interest because the bush can produce fire without ever burning.
These are stories about the discover of interest and money and how it created a change of consciousness with the discover of deceit.
(If you speed up the playback it might be easier to listen to, he talks really slow)

fedevela

Just wow .......... :o

Vindicator

This ties with Pizzagate because of this instagram photo from Alefantis

Interesting @angelafogo . Do we have a primary source like an archive of Alefantis' Insta that shows this is real? Also, obviously the last comment mentioning Moloch was clearly by an anon trolling JA in the early days of pizzagate. What does the reference in the lower left corner come from? Was that a recipe, or what? Did any anons ever track this down? Please add that info, if so!

angelafogo

I am including this post. Do not delete my post.

carmencita

It says Little Deer on the scoop http://www.littledeer.ca/en/blog/our-products/cooking-paddles/pot-scoop/ The first two links have been deleted. They are quick.

Vindicator

A $30 wooden spoon for your Spirit Cooking pleasure. Figures!

carmencita

Yeah, only the best for those that think they are the best. Yeah, it figures alright.

carmencita

Please Notice the Down Voats. THEY are here.

angelafogo

Of course they are. They love my posts

carmencita

Ha. So do I. They have been at me all day every post almost. They are Busy Bees.

IVIVI

Throwing it in everyones face as usual.

angelafogo

Moloch in Metropolis from Fritz Lang https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBH8eZGKs7I

Blacksmith21

@angelafogo - Can you edit your post to show how Moloch and/or the film tie into Pizzagate? Think of it from someone's point of view who knows nothing. Moloch is pretty abstract for normies.

Thanks. I have to give a 24-hour edit warning.

angelafogo

I will try. Please you try as well to no censor me as you have in the past

Blacksmith21

FWIW - I have no interest in "censoring" anyone, other than shit posters. I am reasonably confident that the work we do here will be used in a courtroom or tribunal at some point as reference or evidence by prosecution. The purpose in the "edit flairs" is to give quality posters the opportunity to reformat their original submission in a format conducive to research and reference. Thanks. Nothing personal. Not censorship.

angelafogo

I know. Thank you. I just think the post is worthwhile.

Blacksmith21

It definitely is. Mods catch crap no matter what we do ; )

Vindicator

Angela we have a new policy of giving posts that don't quite meet the submission rules to have 24 Hours for the whole community to help fix them so we can leave them up (see the sticky explaining). I saw you added the link to the previous post, but you need to also add a couple of sentences describing who Moloch is. You can pull them right out of the text of that previous thread I linked you to in my other comment and add them at the top of the post. A lot of people here are leery of clicking on links and won't do so unless they know what they contain and why they're important.

Lonesome_Pizza

This is a good post, after a long hiatus from pizzagate this got me back into the topic.

angelafogo

Probably will be deleted. Enjoy

GeorgeT

I am a huge fan of Metropolis and Moloch was indeed shown. In fact, transgender agenda was on full display. Didn't know of this one.

Aasb

Metropolis from Fritz Lang is a very interesting movie! Like you said, it was made in 1914 and depicts the future, transhumanism, big daddy government and his deal with the devil(s advocat=genius scientist), a giant upsidedown pentagram for resurraction, a witch etc. The future city and its foundation is based on the sacrifice of the working class to Moloch and civil unrest promoted by the MK Ultra-transhuman-witch. My words will make more sense when you watch it.

angelafogo

Thanks. Already seen it. Metropolis is from 1927

Aasb

Thanks, just corrected it to 1927. I mainly talk to the ones who haven't seen it.

GreenDell144

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08850600050140634

Crowley was outed as a government psyop in 1914... also was the year that he finished some black magic incantation recordings, tied to moloch. There is a ton of active publications and aporganizations appearing first 1914-1918 that are connected to thelema, balavatsky, Crowley...

There is a lot of STRONG DENIAL that Crowley interacted with Rasputin, while he passed through St. Petersburg in 1913-1914, which is weird. The notes in the Aleister Crowley tarot card deck hinted that this is where crwoley developed his tarot (I used to dabble, and I don’t recommend it by any means).

Remember, Rasputin was the guy hanging around with the Tsar’s family, just before they were massacred in 1917, which started the Russian revolution.

The connection to any of this and ?Moloch is simple: Crowley purportedly channeled Moloch.

Cc1914

Wow!

angelafogo

Hello. I used to dabble in tarot as well and i am aware that there is something wrong with it (a bit like Ouija maybe?) Do you have any link that shows a connection between Crowley and Moloch? or maybe even Rasputin? Ive been told that Carthage was burnt to ashes due to their adoration of Moloch. Heard any of that?

GreenDell144

Also, the Carthage thing.... I think is an element of the movie in this post. I think an ancient historian alluded to this as a cause for the fall of Carthage. It’s sometimes a comment here: “that’s why the Romans destroyed Carthage... for feeding kids to moloch”... etc.

angelafogo

Its in Flaubert's book, Salambo. Flaubert travelled to the site. He researched for years.

GreenDell144

I’ll check it out.

GreenDell144

I am very glad that I stopped with those things. They worked, the cards. It was chilling, dangerous.. deadly, spiritually speaking. The connection to Moloch is espoused by his followers, for example Johnson, who built a temple to Moloch as a thelema institute. Google and see tons. The results for googling Rasputin and Crowley will show tons of denials that they associated. But a selling point for the cards was that Crowley learned secrets of taro from Rasputin, making his tarot more powerful...

lynn1314

Dear Jesus we have fallen so far away from you. Please forgive us.

Blacksmith21

Jesus? How about the Golden Rule or the 10 Commandments even?

lynn1314

Those things come from Jesus.

GreenDell144

Jesús originated the golden rule, didn’t he?

Blacksmith21

The "Golden Rule" predates Jesus by at least 1,000 years.

pizza-party-pooper-2

How could the Golden Rule predate Jesus when he was there from the beginning?

GreenDell144

I don’t mean to quibble, but the first reference I can find comes from Matthew 7:12 or Luke 6:31. From Wikipedia, he seems to be summarizing the purpose of the Torah, or Old Testament rules. Are you think of another ancient figure that said something similar? Just curious, for reference. Seriously, just making idle chat... not to be contentious.

Blacksmith21

From Wiki:

"Possibly the earliest affirmation of the maxim of reciprocity, reflecting the ancient Egyptian goddess Ma'at, appears in the story of The Eloquent Peasant, which dates to the Middle Kingdom (c. 2040–1650 BC): "Now this is the command: Do to the doer to make him do."[14][15] This proverb embodies the do ut des principle.[16] A Late Period (c. 664–323 BC) papyrus contains an early negative affirmation of the Golden Rule: "That which you hate to be done to you, do not do to another. "[17]"

GreenDell144

Thank you very much. I stand corrected.

GreenDell144

There are two separate ways to consider 1914... it is either metaphysical Bible stuff, murky and hard to understand... or it is a prophecy that connects to reality in an important way.

I have been looking into this: I found many national economies were prosperous in 1913 (not Mexico), few wars, some great composers (“gymnologie” is one a beautiful concerto from the time), a world fair about “the summer of peace”, etc. We all know how 1914 turned out. 1915-1917 had the Spanish flu. Tanks, guns, gas attacks... these all started after 1914. That doesn’t seem outrageous because we are frogs being awhile in the boiling water, but to an ancient person, this would be wild stuff. Frankly, the worldwide violence hasn’t stopped since 1914. The more I look, especially at 1913, the more compelling it gets.

I guess there were lots of wars and terrible times in the past, but not on a GLOBAL scale, and not with such intensely high numbers of casualties.

carmencita

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabiria Second Episode

The fugitive servants divide up the treasure (Croessa gets a ring) and make for the sea but soon run afoul of Phoenician pirates who take Croessa and Cabiria to Carthage, where the little girl is sold to Karthalo, the High Priest. He intends to sacrifice her to the great god Moloch. Also in Carthage are two Roman spies: Fulvius Axilla, a Roman patrician, and Maciste, his huge, muscular slave. The innkeeper, Bodastoret, welcomes Fulvius and Maciste to his Inn of the Striped Monkey. Croessa tries to prevent the sacrifice of Cabiria by pretending that the child is ill, but Croessa is whipped for her deception. Later, she chances upon Fulvius and Maciste. Recognizing them as fellow countrymen, she implores them to assist her.

The entrance to the huge Temple of Moloch is a gigantic three-eyed head, with the mouth as portal. One hundred young children are to perish as offerings. Inside the temple are frenzied devotees, and the colossal seated statue of the wingbed god Moloch is a hollow bronze furnace. The great chest opens for each victim, and when a youngster is slid into the inferno, the door closes and the open mouth belches flame. Croessa, Fulvius, and Maciste sneak into the temple, and the slave boldly snatches Cabiria away from the priest. Pursued by a frenzied mob, they make their way up to the roof, down the gargantuan façade, and back to the inn. However, Croessa pays a fatal price for the rescue.

THEY made a movie about Child Sacrifice in 1914! They showed it in the White House https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cabiria
Probably because Cabiria (1914) was shown on the White House lawn and not inside the building... however Cabiria remain the first film shown at the White House. Jasc Fox (talk) 03:18, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

angelafogo

Thanks carmencita! I recommend reading Salambo, Flaubert's book.

carmencita

Did you notice the child's legs were moving in the video. He carried the child up and the legs were kicking. Am I not seeing correctly? Someone please check.

Cc1914

Wow!! They showed it in the white house? .. I am so floored right now that I can't even write in detail . The truth shall set us free ! That's all I can say at this point . I'm working on a summary right now that includes major events following the year 1914 . I will post it asap .

carmencita

Did you watch the part in the film where he carries the child up to Moloch? The legs of the child are moving! It is at 1:32 on the video. I am hoping others will notice this. This means that was a real child!

Cc1914

Omg it is a real child!! This is horrific!

carmencita

Yes they stooped to the worst evil there is. Jesus always said we should take care of his little lambs. This is not what he had in mind. They care not even for their very own. They would spare them in a heartbeat for Moloch.

IVIVI

This was a silent movie right? I haven't seen it just read about it now. I wouldn't doubt they would use real children, you know how they like to throw it in everyones face. IF they sacrificed real children in a movie, making the movie silent would be a terrific opportunity to get away with it.

carmencita

Most definitely. I usually cannot look at things that evil, but it angered me so much that I was determined to see for my own eyes how evil they really are. And yes, I found out. You are right, that it is a perfect medium to fool the public. In those days, I don't know how sickened the people might be. They would have had no problem with "certain children" being spared. I am afraid they are wanting to turn back the clock to that very time. Where is the outrage?

IVIVI

I don't like looking at it either, but I can't look away. Its too evil NOT to look at it. Every time I think of the children, or people, that have to experience this type of evil, it makes me feel like a coward when I had the thought of looking away. I've only had that thought a few times when I started diving into this type of evil when I was unsure if I wanted to continue looking into it.

Theres no outrage because not enough people are aware and/or look away. Many people may not even believe this level of evil exists. It might be so evil for so many people it just will stay out of their awareness. They live within a fantasy land, a safe space bubble reality.

If you think about it, do you really want the level of outrage that could happen if all the conspiracies were just dumped out on MSM? In my opinion, while lots of progress will made and information will be coming out, I fully expect the majority of what we already know to be true will not be out for decades or longer. The public can't handle it. Do we really want to collapse society? The entire reason we are doing this is to save society, not collapse it. A full out disclosure on pizzagate and related activities would more than likely collapse society.

carmencita

It amazes me what I have been able to see and read. As I said I don't take well to this, but also can't turn away either. You are right that most are completely sickened and turned off by these things, and they tell me that it is not good for me. I don't think it is good for me either, but knowing what I know, I cannot let it go. Who else will do this if not us? I don't want to collapse society but I am afraid that it could happen. We don't know how this will be revealed. Little by little or will some huge piece of news come out that will unwind the whole ball of wax and the public will Revolt. If they refuse to see the light, I cannot help it if They collapse society. It will not be on our heads, but theirs and the Worshipers of Lucifer and Molloch. It really scares the wits out of me.

IVIVI

Thats good that you're moving forward with it even if you don't take it well. It shows strength. I don't like what I see/hear, but I actually don't mind researching it. For me, it just takes up so much of my time which I don't like. I try to balance it, but its hard sometimes.

If "full disclosure" happened on MSM it would likely cause too much chaos. Society can be fixed without full disclosure of pizzagate on MSM. Only what is necessary should be disclosed. Theres no reason to go all out and disclose everything. Its not needed. Disclosure can happen in the alternative news sources.

I'm not afraid of society collapsing. I think we are the right track. Theres many people that don't want the US to collapse, so I'm sure they're working away to make sure everything is done to maintain the balance in society. Theres a lot of chaos out there, but theres also alot of positive as well.

carmencita

Yes, I was more scared at first but the more I read the more disgusted I became with them. That is what has been behind the push to keep going. I can't stop either. I am at this almost every day almost all day long with a few breaks. It just drives me. Many things are waiting for me, but to stop just is not in my DNA.

GeorgeHodelDidit

I noticed that....."they" love tricks. They could of easily have used mostly Luciferian cast. At least the ones who might be close to the Idol. Wouldnt a snickering Luciferian got real excited about showing a live sacrifice to all the Goyim out there? Would that have been fun? And they would say......that was no child.......just artistic expression. You have a hateful mind to imagine that. And then they laugh about it in their country club.......and chase Shirley Temple around their desk with their midget penis out.....

It is what they do. Anything to get one more over on the Goyim.....oh how they hate us.

carmencita

Yes, they hate us, but there are more of us hating them. We must fill the air with more energy of love for all of us. They cannot win when there is more love in the world than hate. And yes, they did pull a trick in that movie. It was a real child.

scarlettm512

1914 was the year that the Federal Reserve system formally opened. That was a very important step towards world domination for the international bankers. It is no accident that there is a hidden owl (moloch) on the Federal Reserve notes.

WHAMMO63

Owl statue also at dead center of the Pentagon.

YogSoggoth

Actually, you are right and then confused. Ishtar, Isis, Venus, Junus, and all the other variations of this deity which almost always had an owl beside are invariably linked to the earliest versions of the story which comes from Sumeria. Columbia is the name of the same deity in the Americas. If you bother to learn the origins of religions you will agree that Baal/Molech worship was indeed El worship in ancient Sumerian, his sister, after a space battle, was awarded the Americas, and her favorite tree was the oak. It was kind of like a bad inheritance battle from what I read. I am sure that you have heard about how bad a common divorce can get.

GreenDell144

Are you sourcing Zechariah Sitchin? Wild books.

YogSoggoth

Read 5 of his, but no, I am an extremely early old school reader. He is right on a lot of points though. My cousin spent half his life studying Egyptology, and he hates Sitchin. I said why? All you do all day is play music with Jews! True story, he is in a heavy metal band. Now he is a Sumerian expert. Oy vey.

GreenDell144

That author makes a respectable effort and puts together a scholarly package, unlike others in his field. Von Daaniken, for instance, gets face time in the alien cable tv shows, but his books are lame. I enjoyed Sitchin’s work and found it respectable, especially the newer...

YogSoggoth

My cousin learned Aramaic to better understand how to properly read Egyptian hieroglyphics. He says many of his key translation points are dead wrong. At that point I would have to have a lot more free time to validate either side of that argument.

angelafogo

Sometimes a tree is not a tree. In a garden they stand still and feed the disobedient angels

YogSoggoth

OK, stop creeping us out, and say what you mean in common whatever.

angelafogo

If you really cared you would know

YogSoggoth

Slave comes from Slav also known as the Rus. That is the group of people who had the most say in kicking out the Khazars besides the Persians and everyone else around them. The ninth-century monk Druthmar of Aquitaine, in his commentary on Matthew 24:14 in Expositio in Matthaeum Evangelistam, stated that the Gazari, or Khazars, dwelt "in the lands of Gog and Magog. That is Sodom and Gomorrah. Best I could come up with. Tell us, oh modern mystery oracle.

angelafogo

Slavonic. Baruch 3. They are not trees, there are no vines. "Rise, Noah, and plant the vine, and alter its name, and change it for the better”

http://www.marquette.edu/maqom/sady.html

YogSoggoth

I think he is talking about grapes. Plenty of bad vines still growing.

angelafogo

Keep thinking then

YogSoggoth

Allegory is not my forte. Never cared for the old testament because it is all from earlier works in older languages. I am not a christian anyways. The Christian Bible is a compendium of different books with many mis-translations and multiple purposeful omissions. That one does seem to be earlier, but like any sect one has to consider the aim of the creator, meaning the guru who branched off from whatever existed before. What was the purpose of making a bunch of hillbillys handle poisonous snakes in some literal translation of the King James version, for example? Maybe it was someone who did not have their best interests in mind, or was just nuts to begin with.

morojax

the owl stuff is important

Shizy

That's actually untrue. Molech goes back a lot further than Alex Jones, and is the "god" of child sacrifice.

Molech is represented at bohemian grove so that may be why you are tying it to AJ, but he didn't invent or start the phenomenon of molech if that's what you were attempting to imply.

carmencita

Thank You for posting that so very important fact! I had forgotten about that. We all add to our knowledge.

CheeseboogersGhost

Oy to the vey!! Its as if it is jewish culture to be Satanists and pedophiles

carmencita

I am going to be very sick. Watching that 1914 movie I played the part where it seems a baby is put into the fire and I had to play it over and over, for I realized that it was a real child. The legs were kicking. Someone please look at that part and tell me what you see. I am getting sicker by the minute. It is at 1:22 on the video.

Soulbrotha2

You saw correctly. I thought i saw 2 kids being put in the fire, both kicking

carmencita

I know. I know what I saw. I had to look at it at least 10 times just to make sure I was right. It was horrid and I hated having to see it, but I had to make sure. I was not about to let them off. Yes they were kicking and it was horrible. I am wondering who's children they were, and how they thought they had the right to throw a child of God in the fire just to make a movie. I can't understand the evil in this world. There are no words for this.

GeorgeT

I will watch it. I have good eye for these things. At Bohemian Grove those depraved fiends sacrifice babies to a giant owl who seems to represent Moloch in its many incarnations.

carmencita

Cremation of Care. Thank You.

Cc1914

How interesting that this was in the year 1914 ! This was a very important year in the heavens !

GeorgeT

And Jordan Maxwell identified the reason why photos of missing children appeared on milk cartons - it was an allusion to children being sacrificed to Milk - as in Moloch! Milk sounds like Moloch. A mockery!

GreenDell144

That trips me out. They could have just as easily put those on orange juice, but no. Hmmmm...

WeirdlyEerie

The milk served in the bar in Kubrick's A Clockwork Orange is called Moloko

GeorgeT

Read the book, saw Kubrick's masterpiece. Milk - Moloch. Very clear now.

angelafogo

This is great info. If you got more please share. Take a look at my post about eyes wide shut

WeirdlyEerie

Thanks. The milk-moloch remark caused me to recall moloko and wikip hit it.

Here is Wikipedia on adrenochrome:

" Effect on the brain Edit Several small-scale studies (involving 15 or fewer test subjects) conducted in the 1950s and 1960s reported that adrenochrome triggered psychotic reactions such as thought disorder, derealization, and euphoria.[2] Researchers Abram Hoffer and Humphry Osmond claimed that adrenochrome is a neurotoxic, psychotomimetic substance and may play a role in schizophrenia and other mental illnesses.[3] In what they called the "adrenochrome hypothesis",[4] they speculated that megadoses of vitamin C and niacin could cure schizophrenia by reducing brain adrenochrome.[5][6] However, these hypotheses have never been scientifically accepted; adrenochrome is not currently believed to have any psychedelic properties.[7]

Law Edit Adrenochrome is unscheduled by the Controlled Substances Act in the United States, but if sold as a supplement, sales must conform to U.S. supplement laws. If sold for consumption as a food or drug, sales are regulated by the FDA.[8][unreliable source?]

In popular culture Edit Author Hunter S. Thompson mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. In the DVD commentary, director Terry Gilliam admits that his and Thompson's portrayal is a fictional exaggeration. In fact, Gilliam insists that the drug is entirely fictional and seems unaware of the existence of a substance with even a similar name. The harvesting of an adrenal gland from a live victim to obtain adrenochrome for drug abuse is a plot feature in the first episode "Whom the Gods would Destroy", of Series 1 of the British TV series Lewis (2008).[9] In Anthony Burgess' 1962 novel A Clockwork Orange, "drencrom" (presumably the Nadsat term for adrenochrome) is listed as one of the potential drugs that can be added to milk-plus (milk laced with a drug of the consumer's choice). "Adrenochrome" is the name of a 2018 released film by Trevor Simms featuring Tom Sizemore about an American Veteran who comes to Venice Beach and gets involved with a gang of Venice Beach psychopaths who are killing people to extract the psychedelic drug out of the victim's adrenal glands. British gothic rock band The Sisters of Mercy released a song with the title Adrenochrome on the B side of their 1982 single Body Electric. Both songs were subsequently re-released on the compilation album Some Girls Wander by Mistake in 1992. The song refers to the substance multiple times. See also Edit Appetite for Adrenochrome, the debut album by Sacramento, California pop-punk band the Groovie Ghoulies."

Ps: the guy who shot himself in front of the whitehouse also has the surname Burgess. (First name Cameron, he was a CPS worker?!)

The Author of A Clockwork Orange, Anthony Burgess, was a cunning linguist. (Sorry).

There are references to "subliminal penetration" ... yet another mk ultra type of allusion , like the drugging and forcing to watch trigger videos, etc in the film .

The teen dialect nadset in A Clockwork Orange is a "collusion with Russian" so to speak ;) It is russian plus cockney rhyming slang

Cc1914

😲 very interesting

Enigmatic_Continuum

We are literally in a spiritual war. There's really no doubt about it and no way around it.

Cc1914

You got that right my friend !

angelafogo

Thank you. Yes it is very interesting

Cc1914

IMO , if I heard a valid explanation for why the year 1914 is so important to the elite , I would be researching the year 1914! I can give you troves of evidence pointing to that year , of being the time when Satan was cast out of heaven . You wanna know what happened to the earth at that time ? Revelation 12:12 On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” ... Do any of you not agree that this year was the starting point of major changes on this earth ? Before that year people had a sense of peace . Now people are screaming for it louder that ever ! Believe me I could go on and on for days about this year! I've studied about it for since 2001 . It's why I chose this username .

cutelobster

I'm not sure that Native Americans had "a sense of peace" before 1914, more a sense of being almost wiped out. Something similar could be said about Africans. The world was not a better place before the 20th cent.

Shizy

Oh please, virtue signal elsewhere.

Cc1914

War has marred life on the earth for thousands of years. International wars and wars within nations have been fought. But beginning in 1914 the first world war was fought. This was not merely a conflict between two armies on the battlefield. For the first time, all the major powers were at war. Entire nations—including civilian populations—were mobilized to support the war effort. It is estimated that by the end of the war 93 percent of the population of the world was involved.

70times7

So it took God 1900 years to throw satan out of heaven after Christ was killed?

Really?

Get out of here with your demonic babble

Cc1914

Do your research please .. this is the Bible saying this not me . So I don't take your insults personally.

Shizy

I think you are right about something about 1914 setting off a chain of events that causes problems on the earth, but you are misinterpreting the Bible.

Satan (Lucifer) was cast out of heaven a long time ago and sent to roam the earth. He was, however able to return at times to speak to God in heaven. He will be cast out again and not allowed to return to see God before the great tribulation starts and that is what revelations is referencing. And the "woe to you (earth)" is because the devil will be angrier now since he knows his time is short.

Satan is often referred to as the god of this world (earth) because this is where he is. He's not the ruler of hell like people wrongly believe, he's actually here causing problems on earth.

Cc1914

Is this what your referring to? Job 2:2 Then God said to Satan: “Where have you come from?” Satan answered God “From roving about on the earth and from walking about in it.”

Shizy

I sent you a reply with Job 1:6-7 but they say essentially the same things.

So Satan presents himself to the lord with with angels, if that didn't happen in heaven where would it happen?

Cc1914

That was before he was cast out of heaven for good in 1914 .

Shizy

How do you know since the Bible doesn't cover the year 1914?

Cc1914

Satan was never able to return to the heavens at all , that was before he was cast out permanently that he was able to travel from heavens to earth . I will find the scriptures your referring to .

Shizy

Job 1:6-7 KJV [6] Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord , and Satan came also among them. [7] And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord , and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it.

Shizy

God doesn't come to earth, and yet Satan is able to have conversations with God so they had to be somewhere together...

TaosDeiopW

You western neo-protestant are realy not the brightest.

So you think in material things, wondering how an Eternal, Infinite, No Beginning and No End, All Knowing, All Powerful God, speaks with a limited, defined, created being???

Do you think it has to be like in this materialistic world? Do you think God, the Almighty needs to be in the same room with the evil angel??

You westerners, and your materialistic mindset. You are a shame to real Christianity.

Cc1914

It's ok if you think I'm wrong , but if you read my whole 3 part post ( sorry not sure if you did already) the math is irrefutable. If you can prove otherwise , I would be all ears .

Shizy

I don't want to argue with you so I hope I didn't come off that way, I can see you have a passion for this as do I. I did read some of what you posted and was going to respond but I didn't want to come off as "arguie". Where I think you're getting hung up is not really a huge matter or importance, but from studying end times prophesy I think you may actually be right, but just have the timeline off.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what I got from what you have written is you think the end times events started with whatever was happening in 1914. I think you're right in that whatever began then was the start of putting the systems in place that would be/will be needed to help usher in the antichrist. The actual end times i.e. Daniels 70 weeks/ the great tribulation is only a 7 year period. That doesn't mean a lot of time and work isn't needed to prepare for those 7 years to start, it's just not the actual end times events described in the Bible. I don't believe we have entered the great tribulation, but like you point out with the events and problems we have been seeing for the past 100 years, we are getting closer and closer at auch faster pace. The tribulation doesn't actually start until the antichrist makes the covenant with many for one week ( we probably won't even know that happens), and then he goes forth to conquer, we will hear of great wars and rumors of wars, etc....

I hope that makes sense. I think I get what you are saying, I hope!

Cc1914

I totally agree with you on most everything your saying and I know your not being argumentative. I hope I don't sound that way . I just like you say " have a passion " for my beliefs . Thank you for seeing that. I have spent hours on this subject today and would love to continue this conversation when I can do more research.

Shizy

Sounds good!

70times7

The bible does not say that. Take your meds. Or better yet, put down the keyboard and actually open a bible.

GreenDell144

This is a reference to a prophecy in the book of Daniel, about how much time will be given to the nations before the messiah takes the heavenly throne. It’s actually quite clear. The Catholics mentioned it in older encyclopedias, but most religions ignore it.

It’s somewhat esoteric, from Daniel 9:25-26. What is compelling is the historical references that contrast 1913 and 1914. It’s worth looking into.

70times7

There is no such prophecy. You mean the 2300 year prophecy? Or the 490 year (70 weeks) ?

Neither of those have anything to do with what you and your alts are claiming.

GreenDell144

Hey, I’m not attacking you. I’m just reasoning for myself based on what the Bible says. If I consider the weeks years, because the Bible gives that rubric in a few places, And I add that to the time that the order to rebuild the temple was given by Darius (more or less 607 B.CE.) I get to the year Jesus was executed... Add the second part 1914. It’s remarkably simple and clear. History also jibes. WWI, with exponential increases in deaths, Spanish flu, League of Nations, all that stuff, and apparently the resurgence of the ancient religion of Moloch the baby eater as a movie figure... I find it very interesting, even if you don’t. No need to get mad about it... jeez. Are you trying to shame me because I read the Bible. You are free to make your own interpretation, don’t blame me or c1914 if we found something interesting and took our own time and effort to try and share it with you. Nobody is twisting your arm at gunpoint telling you to believe it. Make your own decisions and stop browbeating with your virtue signaling.

70times7

Sorry mate. Your elders have been deceived by their elders. And in turn they deceive you. And sadly, now you deceive others.

If you claim, satan stayed in heaven for 5000 years after wishing to exhaust himself above the thrown of God, you know nothing of the character of God.

God is a consuming fire. He consumes sin. It is literally impossible for sin (and whatever is attached to it) to be in the presence of God.

You have been lied to.

GreenDell144

I’m not sure what you mean exactly... It sounds interesting. If you are familiar with Job, you will remember that Satan was often absent from heaven, but God would ask him where he was and he would reply “roaming about on the earth”. I would venture the notion that God is the epitome of perfect patience, allowing Satan’s challenge to be complete, before ending him forever... thus such a claim need never be repeated or accepted again. Thank you for being civil.

No one should ever tell anyone what to think. I strive to think for myself, as should everyone else. That’s why God gave us brains, right? I invite you to pm me if you want to share a scripture or two that supports your reasoning...

70times7

Satan was allowed to "represent" men as Adam had transferred his birthright/dominion to him. Christ won it back at the cross.

Hence satan did not challenge Him again when He raised people after the cross as he did when He raised Moses.

His claim was invalidated.

Seeing as God is an all consuming fire, it is no stretch to imagine satan and the representatives of other worlds, were actually meeting with Michael/Jesus, and not the Father.

The Father put all things for now into the Sons hands. That would include councils and meetings.

angelafogo

The ONE and ONLY GOD is not a consuming a fire but source of LIGHT and REVELATION. You speak of a serpent that crawls and dwells under stones and disguises, called baal and moloch, now run back to your hole from lest a great foot smites you like the roach you are.

https://books.google.com.ar/books?id=DORMCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT45&lpg=PT45&dq=moloch+consuming+fire&source=bl&ots=N2to50r_j4&sig=rCz8EpE7qJHZz9-T5hkTkqaO-KQ&hl=es-419&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjw2veb6trZAhXMG5AKHb2lAGcQ6AEIQDAC#v=onepage&q=moloch%20consuming%20fire&f=false

THIS I TELL TO ALL OF YOU WHO ARE GOOD AND SEEK TRUTH DO NOT STRAY, DO NOT BE CONFOUNDED, LIGHT WILL PREVAIL

carmencita

It makes so much sense to me. Thank you.

70times7

Deuteronomy 4:24 - For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire

Hebrews 12:29 - For our God is a consuming fire.

Cc1914

Yes it does and I posted the scriptures. Where did you come from ? This year must buy you just like it does Satan . If you have proof that it's not true then show PROOF ! Thanks

GreenDell144

LOL... I conflated Daniel 9 and Daniel 4. Oops. You did a much better job of covering all of the bases in your comments below! I really take comfort from seeing the wisdom of this expressed in history. Especially in terms of before and after 1914. I’m gonna go over all of this again, so I don’t lose sight of what I’m talking about. Lol.

Cc1914

Haha your funny ! Thank you so much for your comments on this . It's quite a lot of math but well worth it I think 🙂

angelafogo

Wow. Do you think you can make a quick resume of the changes occurred in that year? I am interested

Cc1914

Part 1. Grab your Bible and calculators 🙂 Sorry there is no quick way to explain the significance of this year . Daniel 4:1-17. And 20-37 show that this prophecy had a fulfillment upon Nebuchadnezzar. But it also has a larger fulfillment. How do we know that? Verses 3 and 17 show that the dream that God gave to King Nebuchadnezzar deals with the Kingdom of God and God’s promise to give it “to the one whom he wants to . . . even the lowliest one of mankind.” The entire Bible shows that Gods purpose is for his own Son, Jesus Christ, to rule as His representative over mankind. (Ps. 2:1-8;Dan. 7:13, 14; 1 Cor. 15:23-25; Rev. 11:15;12:10) The Bible’s description of Jesus shows that he was indeed “the lowliest one of mankind.” (Phil. 2:7, 8; Matt. 11:28-30) The prophetic dream, then, points to the time when God would give rulership over mankind to his own Son. What was to happen in the meantime? Rulership over mankind, as represented by the tree and its rootstock, would have “the heart of a beast.” (Dan. 4:16) The history of mankind would be dominated by governments that displayed the characteristics of wild beasts. In modern times, the bear is commonly used to represent Russia; the eagle, the United States; the lion, Britain; the dragon, China. The Bible also uses wild beasts as symbols of world governments and of the entire global system of human rulership under the influence of Satan. (Dan. 7:2-8, 17, 23; 8:20-22; Rev. 13:1, 2) As Jesus showed in his prophecy pointing to the conclusion of the system of things, Jerusalem would be “trampled on by the nations, until the appointed times of the nations” were fulfilled. (Luke 21:24) “Jerusalem” represented the Kingdom of God because its kings were said to sit on “the throne of the kingship of God .” (1 Chron. 28:4, 5;Matt. 5:34, 35) So, the Gentile governments, represented by wild beasts, would ‘trample’ on the right of God’s Kingdom to direct human affairs and would themselves hold sway under Satan’s control.—Compare Luke 4:5, 6. For how long would such governments be permitted to exercise this control before God gave the Kingdom to Jesus Christ?

Cc1914

Part 2. Daniel 4:16 says “seven times” (“seven years")The Bible shows that in calculating prophetic time, a day is counted as a year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34) How many “days,” then, are involved? Revelation 11:2, 3 clearly states that 42 months (3 1/2 years) in that prophecy are counted as 1,260 days. Seven years would be twice that, or 2,520 days. Applying the “day for a year” rule would result in 2,520 years. When did the counting of the “seven times” begin? After Zedekiah, the last king in the typical Kingdom of God, was removed from the throne in Jerusalem by the Babylonians. (Ezek. 21:25-27) Finally, by early October of 607 B.C.E. the last vestige of Jewish sovereignty was gone. By that time the Jewish governor, Gedaliah, who had been left in charge by the Babylonians, had been assassinated, and the remaining Jews had fled to Egypt. (Jeremiah, chapters 40-43) Reliable Bible chronology indicates that this took place 70 years before 537 B.C.E., the year in which the Jews returned from captivity; that is, it took place by early October of 607 B.C.E. (Jer. 29:10; Dan. 9:2 How, then, is the time calculated down to 1914? Counting 2,520 years from early October of 607 B.C.E. brings us to early October of 1914 C.E., CALCULATING THE “SEVEN TIMES” “Seven times” = 7 X 360 = 2,520 years A Biblical “time,” or year = 12 X 30 days = 360. (Rev. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 14) In the fulfillment of the “seven times” each day equals one year. (Ezek. 4:6; Num. 14:34) Early October, 607 B.C.E., to December 31, 607 B.C.E.= 1/4 year January 1, 606 B.C.E., to December 31, 1 B.C.E. = 606 years January 1, 1 C.E., to December 31, 1913 = 1,913 years January 1, 1914, to early October, 1914 = 3/4 year Total: 2,520 years What happened at that time? God entrusted rulership over mankind to his own Son, Jesus Christ, glorified in the heavens.—Dan. 7:13, 14. Then why is there still so much wickedness on earth? After Christ was enthroned, Satan and his demons were hurled out of heaven and down to the earth. (Rev. 12:12) Christ as King did not immediately proceed to destroy all who refused to acknowledge His fathers sovereignty and himself as the Messiah. Instead, as he had foretold, a global preaching work was to be done. (Matt. 24:14) As King he would direct a dividing of peoples of all nations, those proving to be righteous being granted the prospect of everlasting life, and the wicked being consigned to everlasting cutting-off in death. (Matt. 25:31-46) In the meantime, the very difficult conditions foretold for “the last days” would prevail. Those events have been clearly in evidence since 1914. Before the last members of the generation that was alive in 1914 will have passed off the scene, all the things foretold will occur, including the “great tribulation” in which the present wicked world will end.—Matt. 24:21, 22, 34. When will the end of this wicked world come? Jesus answered: “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.” However, he also stated: “Truly I say to you that this generation [that was alive when “the sign” of “the last days” began its fulfillment] will by no means pass away until all these things occur.”—Matt. 24:36, 34. Also, after telling of events that would follow the establishment of the Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ in 1914, Revelation 12:12 adds: “Be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing he has a short period of time.” During this short period of time we have seen Things happen like never before ...

Cc1914

Part 3 .There will be food shortages . . . in one place after another” (Matt. 24:7) There have been many famines in human history. To what extent has the 20th century been afflicted by them? World war led to widespread starvation in Europe and Asia. Africa has been stricken by drought, resulting in extensive food shortages. Late in 1980 the Food and Agriculture Organization estimated that 450 million people were hungry to the point of starvation, and up to a billion did not have enough to eat. Of these, some 40 million a year actually die—in some years as many as 50 million—because of the shortage of food. Is anything different about these food shortages? Revelation 6:6 indicated that a small quantity of such staples as wheat or barley would be selling for a day’s wage (a denarius; see Matthew 20:2) but that supplies of such items as olive oil and wine used by people who are well-to-do would not be harmed. So apparently many would suffer shortage while others could still get what they wanted. This situation is no longer local, but global. In 1981 The New York Times reported: “The improvement in living standards and the growing demand for food around the world have put pressure on food prices, making it harder for the poorest countries to import their food needs.” In many lands the production of food, even with the aid of modern science, has not been able to keep pace with the increase in total population. Modern food experts see no real solution to the problem. “There will be great earthquakes” (Luke 21:11) It is true that there were major quakes in centuries past; furthermore, with their sensitive equipment scientists now detect more than a million quakes a year. But no special instruments are needed for people to know when there is a great earthquake. Has there actually been a significant number of major earthquakes since 1914? With data obtained from the National Geophysical Data Center in Boulder, Colorado, supplemented by a number of standard reference works, a tabulation was made in 1984 that included only earthquakes that measured 7.5 or more on the Richter scale, or that resulted in destruction of five million dollars (U.S.) or more in property, or that caused 100 or more deaths. It was calculated that there had been 856 of such earthquakes during the 2,000 years before 1914. The same tabulation showed that in just 69 years following 1914 there were 605 of such quakes. That means that, in comparison with the previous 2,000 years, the average per year has been 20 times as great since 1914. “In one place after another pestilences” (Luke 21:11) At the close of the first world war the Spanish flu swept around the globe, claiming upwards of 20 million lives and at a rate unparalleled in the history of disease. Despite advances in medical science, a heavy toll is exacted every year by cancer, heart disease, numerous sexually transmitted diseases, multiple sclerosis, malaria, etc. ‘Increased lawlessness accompanied by a cooling off of love on the part of the greater number’ (Matt. 24:11, 12) A leading criminologist says: “The one thing that hits you in the eye when you look at crime on the world scale is a pervasive and persistent increase everywhere. Such exceptions as there are stand out in splendid isolation, and may soon be swamped in the rising tide.” (The Growth of Crime, New York, 1977, Sir Leon Radzinowicz and Joan King, pp. 4, 5) The increase is real; it is not merely a matter of better reporting. It is true, past generations had criminals too, but never before has crime been as pervasive as it is now. Persons who are up in years know that from personal experience. The lawlessness referred to in the prophecy includes contempt for the known laws of God, a placing of self instead of God at the center of one’s life. As a result of this attitude, divorce rates are skyrocketing, sex outside of marriage and homosexuality are widely accepted, and tens of millions of abortions are performed every year. Such lawlessness is associated (in Matthew 24:11, 12) with the influence of false prophets, those who set aside God’s Word in favor of their own teachings. Heeding their philosophies instead of holding to the Bible contributes toward a loveless world. (1 John 4:8) Read the description of it at 2 Timothy 3:1-5. “Men become faint out of fear and expectation of the things coming upon the inhabited earth” (Luke 21:25, 26) “The fact is that today the biggest single emotion which dominates our lives is fear,” said U.S. News & World Report. (October 11, 1965, p. 144) “Never before has mankind been as fearful as at present,” reported the German magazine Hörzu.—No. 25, June 20, 1980, p. 22. Many factors contribute to this global atmosphere of fear: violent crime, unemployment, economic instability because so many nations are hopelessly in debt, worldwide pollution of the environment, lack of strong and loving family ties, and the overwhelming feeling that mankind is in imminent danger of nuclear annihilation. Luke 21:25 mentions ‘signs in sun, moon, and stars, and roaring of the seas’ in connection with the anguish felt by the nations. The rising of the sun often causes, not happy anticipation, but fear of what the day may bring; when the moon and stars shine, fear of crime makes people stay behind locked doors. In the 20th century, but not before, planes and missiles have been used to send destruction streaking down from the heavens. Submarines carrying deadly loads of missiles prowl the seas, just one such submarine being equipped to annihilate 160 cities. No wonder the nations are in anguish! ‘Christ’s true followers to be objects of hatred by all nations on account of his name’ (Matt. 24:9) This persecution is not because of political meddling but ‘on account of the name of Jesus Christ,’ because his followers adhere to him as Gods Messianic King, because of their obeying Christ ahead of any earthly ruler, because of their loyally adhering to his Kingdom and not becoming involved in the affairs of human governments. As modern-day history testifies, that has been the experience of Jehovah’s Witnesses in all parts of the earth. ‘This good news of the kingdom preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness’ (Matt. 24:14) The message that would be preached is that God’s Kingdom in the hands of Jesus Christ has begun to rule in the heavens, that soon it will put an end to the entire wicked system of things, that under its rule mankind will be brought to perfection and earth will become a paradise. That good news is being preached today in over 200 lands and island groups, to the most distant parts of the earth. Jehovah’s Witnesses devote hundreds of millions of hours to this activity each year, making repeated house-to-house visits so that everyone possible is given the opportunity to hear. To what do all these events of “the last days” point? Luke 21:31, 32: “When you see these things occurring, know that the kingdom of God is near [that is, the time when it will destroy the present wicked world and itself take full charge of earth’s affairs]. Truly I say to you, This generation will by no means pass away until all things occur.” (The “generation” that was alive at the beginning of fulfillment of the sign in 1914 is now well along in years. The time remaining must be very short. World conditions give every indication that this is the case.) This my friends , is why JW's knock on your doors . Not because we have some inflated ego and feel we know it all , it's so far from that . It's the very opposite. We love God and life so much , that we are willing to be ridiculed in order to share the good news about Gods Kingdom with total strangers . Some don't want to speak to us at all , but many do . This is the only lasting hope that there is for mankind . Gods kingdom will put an end to all this madness we see on earth. I know this was an earful, and if you finished reading this , THANK YOU . The Bible says that we have to dig for the truth as if we were searching for treasures .. proverbs 2:4

Cc1914

Yes I will do that 🙂

carmencita

I am also interested. I have always meant to ask you about your name. Now I know.

onesmallvoice

Please do. I'm also interested to hear your theory surrounding that year.

elitch2

WIlson. THat fucking traitor.

carmencita

All of them have been traitors. They all bow to Lucifer.