carmencita

Liquor companies, including Seagram's are all Mob controlled. If Seagram's is in any way involved this is going to get really nasty.

sore_ass_losers

'Liquor companies are all Mob controlled.' - Yep, Prohibition fostered the growth of the mobs by providing fabulous sums of money.

Big rabbit hole, just for example:

http://www.lyndonlarouche.org/dope9.pdf

http://hiddenmysteries.org/conspiracy/reststory/bronfmanscrime.html

https://nodisinfo.com/bloomfield/

It's said the Kennedy family were Irish mob who made their fortune during Prohibition. There's some evidence of mob involvement or mob rivalry in the JFK hit. The name ((Meyer Lansky)) often comes up, but he certainly wasn't Italian. He is a hero in Israel because he was a big Zionist and charitable to their causes. So, The Godfather was a bit misleading, there's definitely a jewish mob, or maybe it's all the same thing. (See also the book Gangs of New York .)

carmencita

Imo, they were enemies at one time, the mobs that is. Now there is so much money to be made, I believe they are all in cahoots in some way. Yes, be not mistaken, the Kenedys are still in this, Big Time. They are already pushing Joe for President just like they did BO. Joe had the worst speech ever. They don't care, they will continue pushing. Just think. A member of the mob will be ruling our country while a Devil Jesuit will be ruling the Vatican. This Devil Jesuit just this week announced there is No Heaven and No Hell. See my post in p/whatever on it.

sore_ass_losers

I feel the stories are distancing Seagrams from NXIVM. Edgar Bronfman Sr. said it was a cult and wasn't happy with his heiresses being involved. There's some sort of vague commodity war story I've heard, involving Raniere ripping off Bronfman (?)

And yet NXIVM was said to employ a famous private eye Aviv who claimed to be Mossad. Also at one point I heard they had the FBI threatening someone also. (Could be Mossad/FBI professional courtesy :).

So I've wondered about this issue, was this group associated with some Bronfman project or just getting money off the heiresses?

Qwerty72

Bronfman is also connected to mind control and Esalen. Remember the Unicorn murderer Ira Einhorn. The Bronfmans protected him when he escaped. It's a big rabbit hole.

carmencita

Well if it goes deep enough I believe Seagrams could be involved, and there is mob control on both sides with US and Israel and of course Italy etc. We just will have to wait and see what else turns up.

pby1000

I am waiting for it to come out that children were involved. I am guessing that they were.

Do you suppose this has anything to do with all of those sealed indictments?

think-

Yes, Raniere raped girls as young as 12.

carmencita

I don't know about all the indictments or if they are related to this particular case, but what makes you think children are involved. Did you read something or is this just a feeling?

pby1000

Just a feeling... I think they lack the morals to limit themselves to just adults. These people will feel like they can do whatever they want and not be held accountable.

sore_ass_losers

Apparently Ranier's position is that the age of consent should be set by the parents. So if the parents are cult members who adore the leader I think he would have had free access to the kids of the cult. Also there's that strange story that there was a little boy who sort of belonged to the cult at large?!

pby1000

Fuck these people. Seriously. Fuck these people.

pby1000

Well, there you go...

@carmencita

carmencita

And in 1984, when a woman objected to 24-year-old Raniere having sex with her underage sister, the woman said Raniere explained her sister's soul was much older than her biological age. The girl was 15 or 16 at the time. But according to the man who came to view himself as an enlightened being, she was a Buddhist goddess meant to be with him.

He told another woman that a threesome would cure the pain of child molestation. NOW that is the Wildest Pickup Line I have ever heard. Not even in my 20's Nightlife Scene did I hear that one! Whoa!

pby1000

Talk about creative. I can't believe that people fall for such bullshit.

carmencita

Please look at my new post. It is shocking. https://voat.co/v/pizzagatewhatever/2477214 The pope declares there is No Heaven There is No Hell.

pby1000

I heard about the no hell comment, but I did not realize he said there is no heaven. Hahahaha! What is this dude smoking?

carmencita

Yeah, I found a second article that I posted late last night, too tired to even read the whole thing yet, but I bolted up at what I DID read. Am still at half mast this morning. I have to host Easter today. That could be the problem. Me having to host Easter after reading there is No Heaven or Hell. I am in a funk for today. This pedo pope is beyond scummy.

pby1000

Yeah, it is not easy to switch between this crap we research, and being a normal human being. I hope that all this will be dealt with soon so we can get our lives back. It is like we are in a holding pattern.

Well, have a Happy Easter! I really hope you and your family enjoy it.

carmencita

Exhausted and I think I know why. That Heaven and Hell news really knocked my for a loop. I could not sleep. I am behind today and that is why. I am not going to let that Buggering Blowhard ruin my Easter! Back to cleaning the Brussel Sprouts. Hoppy Easter to One and All!!!

carmencita

Very good point and oh so true. I believe the same is true in that accident with all the kids that went over a cliff in the SUV with the two women. The LEO were allegedly involved and were involved in a Sex Swap Ring. So, I also believe they could have the loose morals to traffic those kids. Yes, people that get that low down, are capable of almost anything.

sore_ass_losers

"Accident" - even the mainstream is saying it was quite possibly not an accident: There were no skid/brake marks, speedometer was pegged at 90.

carmencita

I am totally convinced someone is responsible for sending that car over the cliff. Possibly no one was in it. The women have been given new IDs and the children trafficked or some other wild scenario. They are good at this. I will never believe they would be OK with those children getting killed when there was money to be made. Total Greed and Evil.

pby1000

I heard about the cliff incident, but I did not know the LEO connection. Sex swap ring? LOL. I am not surprised. I always assume that LEO are Freemasons.

carmencita

Yea one of the is a Mason. Laugh of the century. I had a funny feeling about this right away. Just too many fuzzy clues. Why are they not organizing a search party for people to help out? I could go on and on. Ridiculously obvious.

think-

Please read also @migratorypatterns ' research thread about the NXIUM cult and Keith Raniere:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2469942

derram

https://archive.fo/yqlkF :

Feds catch fugitive sex slave cult leader backed by Bronfman heiresses - U.S. News - Haaretz.com

'It is unclear whether Sara or Clare Bronfman underwent any of the bizarre rituals themselves. '

'Sara and Clare Bronfman, daughters of the late philanthropist Edgar Bronfman, have given millions of their family’s fortune to help fund Raniere’s organization, The New York Times reported last year. '

'Since 2003, Raniere has been the head of the self-help organization NXIVM (pronounced Nex-e-um). '

'Keith Raniere, who goes by the name “Vanguard,” had claimed to be poor but had been living with multiple women in a villa that cost up to $10,000 a week. '

'Image from ABC News: Who is Keith Raniere, the founder of NXIVM: Part 2A cult leader backed by heiresses of a prominent Jewish philanthropic family was arrested by authorities near a Mexican resort on Monday, The Washington Post reported. '


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