Pizzagate connection:
Clinton/ DNC connection through Wasserman-Shultz, since shooting was in her district and occurred during time FISA warrant was in news cycle.
Also, Hogg's student co-mouthpiece's father runs an adoption agency, one of which was shut down for legal violations. These have all been discussed on other VOAT threads.
This new info about the MARCH FOR OUR LIVES permit application date is well documented!
"In reference to your inquiry concerning the March For Our Lives Demonstration, here in the District of Columbia on March 24, 2018. MPD received a permit application SEVERAL MONTHS (emphasis mine) prior to the actual event, and there was several months of planning for this large event."
http://www.investmentwatchblog.com/foi-request-reveals-that-march-for-our-lives-was-planned-months-in-advance-long-before-shooting-took-place/
▼ TrishaUK
And this is a leaked audio of a 'secret' meeting planning the 'School kids organic movement' - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiGC533pHH4&feature=youtu.be - HIDDEN AUDIO: Broward County Teachers Caught Indoctrinating Students, Planning Illegal March - by Laura Loomer Published on 21 Mar 2018
▼ TrishaUK
Just an Extra: For anyone still thinking MSM (😷💩) is not a co-ordinated attack - MUST watch this by Issac Green - Anti-School - FAKE NEWS #AntiSchool - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsKRcsWf1jQ&feature=youtu.be
▼ InnocentAngels
I also saw something about the evil eye gloves being made in advance for the March for our Lives event. I have no proof of this though. A lot of them were made by the same creator of the pink kitty hats.
▼ septimasexta
Good catch! Here's the documentation. The "designer" is Krista Suh and she claims she had a DREAM..LOL! She is a Woman's National Democratic Club shill. THE EVIL EYE IS THE PERFECT MEME for these degenerates! http://kristasuh.com/evil-eye-glove/
▼ InnocentAngels
What that poster was claiming was if you put in January plus her site for evil eye gloves it shows up. It does show up but, I didn't see a connection to the march for that month. So I didn't see proof, just speculation. Yeah, she's a extreme left feminist.
▼ septimasexta
"Some of you might know I came up with the idea for the Pussyhat and the Sea of Pink in the car while driving up the 5 freeway on November 12, 2016, just days after Election Day.
What many people don’t know is that I had an idea, a vision, before that. It came to me in a dream, just minutes before waking up - I had a dream of a protest, a huge peaceful crowd with their hands outstretched toward the sky – each palm had a huge EYE drawn on it."
She says she imagined the Evil Eye hand (glove) BEFORE NOV. 12, 2016. She probably made up some samples "just in case". THE NAME OF THE GAME IS PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
▼ InnocentAngels
" The Name of the game is plausible deniability " So true. Just waiting for the next protest to arise. No way to know if she had a heads up or not.
▼ Sackajahweeda
Just my .02 but I believe that this is a distration meant to discredit the movement. If we look like a bunch of conspiracy nutters all the better for them. Even if true I HIGHLY DOUBT this info would be handed over as easily as it was. As a certain alien would say ITS A TRAP!!
▼ septimasexta
Trump may have a few friends in D.C.
▼ phil300595
In fairness, it could have been another planned event that changed course after the shooting. I want to believe it is true but there are ways in which it isn't
▼ septimasexta
What makes you think that?
▼ Banned4Truth
for fuck sake, how is this pizzagate related? The MFL wasn't even planned in advance because the application date was 6 days after. Why are mods letting posts like this in pizzagate?
▼ YogSoggoth
Were you there man? Parkland student? Hogg was fake and got exposed. We followed the money. Florida students walked out for 2'nd amendment rights after the ambush. Katz's has been on the watch list long before this channel.
▼ Banned4Truth
what the fuck does your ranting have to do with anything? I need to be a parkland student to have a critical analysis of something I think is as weak as a second hand tea bag? I've had with you millennials. You're the dumbest generation yet.
▼ YogSoggoth
Katz the musical, you nailed it. The finale will blow your mind.
▼ septimasexta
That was the first application. It was denied because of a preexisting application for the same day/space. My post involves their SECOND APPLICATION, which fell under the DC POLICE JURISDICTION because of the venue change. D.C. is keeping this application under wraps with FOIA.
▼ Are_we__sure
You still need a federal AND a city permit for events like this from both the National Parks Service and the DC police.
And they did get a federal permit for the march
https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/foia/upload/18-0710-March-For-Our-Lives-Permit-Issued_REDACTED.pdf
So this is where your bait and switch idea falls apart.
▼ septimasexta
This isn't the request. Why is the D.C. permit REQUEST under lock and key? Also, don't know where you got this "document". The date on the WAPO doc was Feb. 20. This one says Feb. 18. Nice try.
▼ Are_we__sure
This is the permit itself. Where does this say Feb 18?
It says
You don't know where I got this document? Did you look at the link? It's from nps.gov, the official website of the National Park Service.
▼ septimasexta
"official website of the National Park Service." This has nothing to do with District of Colmubia regarding legal jurisdiction. If they marched in the street, its D.C. police.
▼ Are_we__sure
At both locations the march was considering, you need both a federal permit and a city permit. This is the federal permit.
You were claiming that the federal permit was switched out for a city permit in a bait and switch move. That is false.
▼ septimasexta
" linked to the federal permit. You were claiming that the federal permit was switched out for a city permit in a bait and switch move. That is false." I theorized it. WHAT ARE THE ODDS THAT BOTH PERMITS COULD BE OBTAINED IN SUCH A SHORT TIME? Until we see the D.C. APPLICATION AND PERMIT along with a statement denying that another party gave up their time slot to March for Our Lives WE CAN'T RULE ANYTHING OUT! End of discussion.
▼ Are_we__sure
if another party gave up their time slot, that doesn't support the idea that the March for Life was planned ahead of time. That just supports some other event was planned ahead of time.
Also isn't the breathless title of this thread an example of ruling things out?
▼ septimasexta
Yes it does. PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. You are working overtime. I hope HAIR BLUE pays extra.... http://www.camprehoboth.com/letters/2000/july-28-2000-campshots (8th down)
▼ septimasexta
Also, Katz's name was on the first application, we do not know whose name is on the second.
▼ Banned4Truth
Then the "second' application was done after Feb 20. What are we not understanding here? The First application is dated feb 20 2018.
▼ septimasexta
I believe they took the place of an earlier application, potentially filed by Katz, for a women's march on gun control. All the groundwork would have been done prior to Feb. 14. How else can you justify the D.C. police claim that "MPD received a permit application SEVERAL MONTHS (emphasis mine) prior to the actual event, and there was SEVERAL MONTHS of planning for this large event." The D.C. application is the one that counts, NOT the one in WAPO. Until the document is produced, I am free to speculate.
▼ Banned4Truth
idk, i'm trying to give this the benefit of the doubt but where's the FOI information other than a screen shot of a supposed email confirming months in advance? All we have is guy called "Ole Dammergard" who through another person "professor james fetzer" shows a supposed email from FOIA but with no actual information. Just a short note saying "ya , it was months in advance" Hardly official. Wheres the information!? Where's the data? Where's the proof? What that is, is not proof of anything. Anyway, none of this is pizzagate related, doesn't belong in this forum. Explain what that pdf application is then. The one dated feb 20.
▼ septimasexta
Already explained it above. The named sources are known in the non-MSM media. This is a leak to point to where to request a FOIA. It is through the D.C. police, NOT the National Park Service. Call up the named policeman for yourself. Request a FOIA for yourself. The fact that something that should be SIMPLE to find out is instead CONVOLUTED and obfuscated SPEAKS VOLUMES. The students are PUPPETS.
▼ urbanmoving
They will change it FOIA request the records of the School for construction, maintenance, and security camera installation removal
▼ ProudTruther
Were Hogg and Gonzalez adopted???
I heard she was telling Cuban flag but doesn't speak Spanish. Raised by whites?
▼ realityisinsanity
She supposedly is half Jewish, but they're most likely lying.
▼ urbanmoving
Yep they are adopted trafficked sex slaves for ped syn fams zionsit run of course
▼ GeorgeT
H*GG & GI Jane both look like psychopaths, would not be surprised if they are MK Ultra victims. Who else would become a crisis actor and participate in high treason (which is what crisis acting is!!)
▼ lamplight
I've read several conflicting stories. Some say it was planned in advance but others say Feb 20 which was after the shooting. It could be that there was a conflict in the location where they wanted the demo so had to change it. https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/march-for-our-lives-gun-control-rally-bumped-from-mall-by-talent-show/2018/03/01/ad8c7268-1cc6-11e8-9496-c89dc446c2d3_story.html
In any case, I think most of us are tired of hearing one particular young man's opinion. He is not the voice of all youth and there are other opinions that are still legal to say.
▼ Are_we_sure
So we're believing an anonymous source to Ole Dammegard ?
Do you really think this is going to hold up well?
Did you even scroll down on that page you linked to? To this part?
▼ septimasexta
"Litterst said Wednesday that March For Our Lives organizers were planning their rally away from federal land, on Pennsylvania Avenue between Third and 12th streets NW, which is the jurisdiction of the District.
D.C. police said a permit for the march was filed with the agency but wouldn’t release the application or information about it. March For Our Lives organizers didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Permits for the Mall are processed in the order they are received, Litterst said, and the number of attendees or ideology of groups involved aren’t factors in their approval. The Park Service sometimes contacts applicants to see if they are willing to alter plans for larger events, he said, as in January 2017 when the Women’s March on Washington conflicted with an application from the Presidential Inaugural Committee. In that case, the inaugural committee withdrew its claim on the Ellipse adjacent to the White House, Litterst said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/march-for-our-lives-gun-control-rally-bumped-from-mall-by-talent-show/2018/03/01/ad8c7268-1cc6-11e8-9496-c89dc446c2d3_story.html?utm_term=.7b2c36eced9d
COMMENT: It appears that the permit filed by Katz was a bait and switch. They widely publicize and show the Feb. 20 application. Of course, this one can't be used because of a scheduling conflict. It is noteworthy that they then "were planning their rally away from federal land, on Pennsylvania Avenue between Third and 12th streets NW, which is the jurisdiction of the District." We know that the DC police chief is buddies with Comet Pizza owner James Alefantis. They can keep the 2nd application under wraps and require a FOIA. SIGNIFICANTLY, the article mentions "The Park Service sometimes contacts applicants to see if they are willing to alter plans for larger events" as what happened with the Women's March on Washington, ALSO ORGANIZED BY KATZ. I theorize, based on my post, that the 2nd location had already been reserved by KATZ for a women's anti-gun rally. Thus the D.C. police comment that "MPD received a permit application SEVERAL MONTHS (emphasis mine) prior to the actual event, and there was several months of planning for this large event." As always, PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. ALL THE WORLD IS A COINCIDENCE.
▼ Are_we__sure
Do you realize that none of what you posted here supports the thread title?
For example, this does not equal the March for Life being planned in advance of the shooting.
As the Washington Post stories show, the fact that the kids linked up with experienced organizers was known since February.
Of course? Of course? You're claiming that Katz knew that on Feb 20th? How would you know that?
You see to high a tiny puff of smoke and you're waving your hands very fast and trying to claim there's a fire everyway. You're jumping through a lot of hoops here.
▼ septimasexta
"Do you realize that none of what you posted here supports the thread title?"
" It appears that...." There are multiple scenarios that fit the given info. Mine is one of them. Nothing precludes foreknowledge being true. The game is PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY.
▼ septimasexta
WITH ALL THIS FLACK, WE MUST BE OVER THE TARGET. Post the D.C. FOIA permit application.
▼ Are_we__sure
Or you might just be spouting bullshit and getting called on it. Or several other possibilities in between.
▼ septimasexta
I get the upVOATS. You get the DOWNvoats. That's all that matters.
▼ darkknight111
Send this stuff to Judicial Watch, Project Veritas, and Sean Hannity. They'll have a field day with it.
▼ Blacksmith21
Great suggestion @darknight111
▼ rooting4redpillers
Add Laura Ingram.
▼ carmencita
UpVoat! Good Work. Proud of you.
▼ septimasexta
Just doing my usual research and this popped up. Dr. Eowyn has has good leads in the past.
▼ carmencita
This would red pill thousands and thousands.
▼ GeorgeT
This IS Pizza/Pedo Gate - to those who want to know
▼ septimasexta
REPOSTING THIS to answer naysayers:
"Litterst said Wednesday that March For Our Lives organizers were planning their rally away from federal land, on Pennsylvania Avenue between Third and 12th streets NW, which is the jurisdiction of the District.
D.C. police said a permit for the march was filed with the agency but wouldn’t release the application or information about it. March For Our Lives organizers didn’t respond to a request for comment.
Permits for the Mall are processed in the order they are received, Litterst said, and the number of attendees or ideology of groups involved aren’t factors in their approval. The Park Service sometimes contacts applicants to see if they are willing to alter plans for larger events, he said, as in January 2017 when the Women’s March on Washington conflicted with an application from the Presidential Inaugural Committee. In that case, the inaugural committee withdrew its claim on the Ellipse adjacent to the White House, Litterst said." https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/march-for-our-lives-gun-control-rally-bumped-from-mall-by-talent-show/2018/03/01/ad8c7268-1cc6-11e8-9496-c89dc446c2d3_story.html?utm_term=.7b2c36eced9d
COMMENT: It appears that the permit filed by Katz was a bait and switch. They widely publicize and show the Feb. 20 application. Of course, this one can't be used because of a scheduling conflict. It is noteworthy that they then "were planning their rally away from federal land, on Pennsylvania Avenue between Third and 12th streets NW, which is the jurisdiction of the District." We know that the DC police chief is buddies with Comet Pizza owner James Alefantis. They can keep the 2nd application under wraps and require a FOIA. SIGNIFICANTLY, the article mentions "The Park Service sometimes contacts applicants to see if they are willing to alter plans for larger events" as what happened with the Women's March on Washington, ALSO ORGANIZED BY KATZ. I theorize, based on my post, that the 2nd location had already been reserved by KATZ for a women's anti-gun rally. Thus the D.C. police comment that "MPD received a permit application SEVERAL MONTHS (emphasis mine) prior to the actual event, and there was several months of planning for this large event." As always, PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY. ALL THE WORLD IS A COINCIDENCE.
▼ carmencita
Will this be reported on MSM? Doubt it. I hope that this picks up steam through soc. media and spreads. If it does gain enough traction to the point where MSM has to address it, we know they will be offering their own version of this story. But really, this is pretty straight forward. Let's hope the FOIA is honored and answered.
▼ septimasexta
We need a #DC:SHOWUSTHEFOIA
▼ dtneslo
I put in a FOIA with MDC DHS yesterday, should hear back soon...looking for all dox on permit requests and planning
▼ septimasexta
You Tuber "Lift the Veil" claims he contacted the D.C. police officer regarding the permit application for March for Our Lives. His only response was "THEY FILED MARCH 13" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERpZY_nrGR0 see 10:04
COMMENT: This raises more questions. The first Parks permit was filed Feb. 20. This still doesn't answer the question of whether there was a preexisting claim on their planned march date. There was no confirmation or denial as to the authenticity of the D.C. police email.
Continue to call Congress and demand answers. They have legal authority over the D.C. police.
▼ septimasexta
Now, the "Snopes" quoted "Politifact" gives the same date as "Lift the Veil", March 13, but this conflicts with MPD spokeswoman's date of FEBRUARY 21 QUOTED BY SNOPES! http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2018/apr/03/fellowship-minds/no-march-our-lives-demonstration-was-not-prepared-/
PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY CUTS BOTH WAYS: The evidence presented does not preclude foreknowledge. We still don't know if there was another permit "filed months in advance" for a very large crowd that was "gifted" to MARCH FOR OUR LIVES..... WHY IS SUCH BASIC INFO SO HARD TO FIND OUT? WHY ARE THE D.C. POLICE SO INCOMPETENT?
▼ septimasexta
ARE-WE-SURE must have a side-gig at SNOPES. They are DESPERATELY trying to put this fire out:
"The story was based on an e-mail exchange between James Fetzer, a retired philosopher-turned-conspiracy theorist, and Scott Earhardt, an officer with the Washington, D.C. Metropolitan Police Department (MPD). In the message, Earhardt appeared to suggest the permit for the 24 March 2018 rally had been submitted well before the 14 February 2018 school massacre at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in which seventeen people were murdered, saying that “In reference to your inquiry concerning the March For Our Lives Demonstration, here in the District of Columbia on March 24, 2018. MPD received a permit application several months prior to the actual event, and there was several months of planning for this large event.”
"We (Snopes) called Earhardt, but he declined to comment because he was not authorized to do so and instead referred us to MPD’s public affairs department. However, Earhardt told non-partisan fact checker PolitiFact that he had confused the “March for Our Lives” rally with an annual event in January bearing a similar name: March for Life.
MPD spokeswoman Karimah Bilal told us that the permit application for the March for Our Lives rally was received on 21 February 2018, one week after the massacre. She also said the permit application has not been released to the public, and as a policy the public affairs division doesn’t make such documents available." https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/march-for-our-lives-permit/
LOL!
SO WHICH IS IT? February 21 OR March 13? OR SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR?
HOW ON EARTH DID THE OFFICER CONFUSE THE ANTI-GUN RALLY WITH THIS PRO-LIFE RALLY IN A DIFFERENT MONTH???????
"Scheduled Street Closures for 2018 March for Life Activities
Wednesday, January 17, 2018 Metropolitian Police Department Contact: (202) 727-4383
(Washington, DC)-The Metropolitan Police Department and the Department of Transportation would like to inform the public of street closures in conjunction with the 2018 March for Life Activities scheduled for Friday, January 19, 2018.
The following streets will be closed from 7 am to 1 pm
F Street NW between 6th Street NW and 7th Street NW Rolling Street Closures on 7th Street NW, from F Street to Jefferson Drive NW starting at approximately 10:30 am to 11:30 pm Rolling Street Closures on Constitution Ave NW, from 12th Street to 1st Street beginning approximately 1:15 pm to 3:30 pm Motorists traveling in the area of this event may experience delays and should consider alternative routes, if possible. The Metropolitan Police Department and the District Department of Transportation would like to remind motorists to pay full attention whenever operating any motor vehicle and to be mindful of heavy pedestrian traffic that may be associated with special events. These street closings are subject to change without notice based upon unanticipated events and prevailing conditions." https://ddot.dc.gov/release/scheduled-street-closures- %C2%A02018-march-life-activities
SOMETHING STINKS!
▼ NoBS
Respect Citizen Investigator. Hat tip.
▼ septimasexta
The D.C. police are under the authority of CONGRESS. Everyone should call them and demand that the permit is released to the public! This can be very effective, plus the college kid answering the phone will be alerted.
▼ septimasexta
Also ask for a copy of the permit REQUEST so we know whose name is on it as well as whether someone ahead of their request delegated their slot to March for your Lives.
▼ Shizy
Wow! Great work! Thank you! Please update on what you find!
▼ dtneslo
Will do...
▼ rooting4redpillers
No doubt, this story will have a lot of people shrieking at the sky, calling for boycotts... Fine, but this story needs to GET OUT THERE and ALL questions need to be answered. Who will report it, and who will report it without extreme bias? (Ha.)