And here's an interesting fact I found. Governor Kenneth Mapp was on hand for the signing of the bill. Who is Governor Kenneth Mapp? Just the governor of the US Virgin Islands, you know where Jeffery Epstein's Little St. James (aka Orgy Island) is located!
I have some questions. Is "Backpage" an example of the targeted entities? I have never been to that site, but have read that it is used for "personals" which amount to advertising for trafficking. If this is true, in a backwards way, law enforcement would have easy pickings in tracking down AND ARRESTING these scum. While well intended, this law appears to conflict with freedom of the press by forcing the press to play policeman. If you could show direct collusion of the individual running the site with the said trafficker "advertising" there, then they would be charged and punished. THERE ARE ALREADY LAWS THAT COVER THIS. Unfortunately, this law is a slippery slope against FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
Do you have any points that would make me feel better about this?
I don't like the law because it conflates prostitution with "trafficking". Eccie is gone, backpage gone, craigslist gone, other sites gone, now independent escorts who don't already have an established client base will have to go out and expose themselves to riskier and more dangerous behavior to get clients (working the clubs, bars, street).
At least they had some control when they were posting ads online, they could get references or screen the Johns and get their information before meeting in case anything happened.
While Backpage was used in some cases to sell underage girls online, that's nothing the current laws plus a well planned law enforcement operation couldn't handle. The real traffickers will continue on in the shadows. It's not going to magically stop kids or adults from being forcibly sold for sex. And the same thing could technically happen on any social media app or website.
The massage parlors in every major city are still there. The influx of girls from Mexico and Central America into California to have sex with the field workers is still there. Guys coercing or kidnapping women or girls and selling or renting them to people will still be there.
The portion of ads that were actually underage trafficking victims was just a symptom, not the disease. The disease is evil people thinking they can control another human being and make them do what they want by force, deception, coercion. The real sex and labor trafficking happening behind the scenes, modern day slavery.
Some think it's the first step towards the US Government controlling the internet and what we do online in the name of what's "morally righteous", which is absolutely a first amendment issue.
Thank you for your research and info. I agree there will still be the same old same old, much of what has been going on all along. Very sad. I hope that it is not true about clamping down on the internet. Our rights are already in jeopardy.
▼ DeathToMasonsASAP
Pathetic. A show. He is one of them and has done nothing. His ole buddy Epstein never had that smile wiped off his face. Stop selling Trump.
▼ Mrs_Ogynist01
There is NO WAY "they" would be trying to impeach one of their own. I don't care if you don't like Trump, but enemy of my enemy is my friend.
▼ septimasexta
Can anyone post a copy of the legislation?
▼ Mrs_Ogynist01
Here you go - https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/1865/text
And here's an interesting fact I found. Governor Kenneth Mapp was on hand for the signing of the bill. Who is Governor Kenneth Mapp? Just the governor of the US Virgin Islands, you know where Jeffery Epstein's Little St. James (aka Orgy Island) is located!
▼ carmencita
Mapp? Almost like MAP? Wow what a name. And why in the world would he be there? There was just a fire there I see in a post. Too many questions.
▼ septimasexta
I have some questions. Is "Backpage" an example of the targeted entities? I have never been to that site, but have read that it is used for "personals" which amount to advertising for trafficking. If this is true, in a backwards way, law enforcement would have easy pickings in tracking down AND ARRESTING these scum. While well intended, this law appears to conflict with freedom of the press by forcing the press to play policeman. If you could show direct collusion of the individual running the site with the said trafficker "advertising" there, then they would be charged and punished. THERE ARE ALREADY LAWS THAT COVER THIS. Unfortunately, this law is a slippery slope against FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
Do you have any points that would make me feel better about this?
▼ carmencita
You bring up a good point. I was really happy about Backpage take down, but now I am wondering if this is a half arse idea. Scratching head.
▼ wincraft71
I don't like the law because it conflates prostitution with "trafficking". Eccie is gone, backpage gone, craigslist gone, other sites gone, now independent escorts who don't already have an established client base will have to go out and expose themselves to riskier and more dangerous behavior to get clients (working the clubs, bars, street).
At least they had some control when they were posting ads online, they could get references or screen the Johns and get their information before meeting in case anything happened.
While Backpage was used in some cases to sell underage girls online, that's nothing the current laws plus a well planned law enforcement operation couldn't handle. The real traffickers will continue on in the shadows. It's not going to magically stop kids or adults from being forcibly sold for sex. And the same thing could technically happen on any social media app or website.
The massage parlors in every major city are still there. The influx of girls from Mexico and Central America into California to have sex with the field workers is still there. Guys coercing or kidnapping women or girls and selling or renting them to people will still be there.
The portion of ads that were actually underage trafficking victims was just a symptom, not the disease. The disease is evil people thinking they can control another human being and make them do what they want by force, deception, coercion. The real sex and labor trafficking happening behind the scenes, modern day slavery.
Some think it's the first step towards the US Government controlling the internet and what we do online in the name of what's "morally righteous", which is absolutely a first amendment issue.
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20170929/01242638309/campaigners-sesta-see-it-as-first-step-to-stomping-out-porn.shtml
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2018/04/trump-signs-bill-to-shut-down-websites-that-facilitate-prostitution/
▼ carmencita
Thank you for your research and info. I agree there will still be the same old same old, much of what has been going on all along. Very sad. I hope that it is not true about clamping down on the internet. Our rights are already in jeopardy.
▼ septimasexta
Thanks!
▼ derram
https://tweetsave.com/joshdcaplan/status/984109012982607874 :
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