Just4kicks

Burning the evidence.

Vindicator

Hi duhiki. Looks like a lot of outlets fell for this fake news. The fire was on a totally different island. I'm flairing this debunked. You can read more about it here: https://twitter.com/EveTweets/status/982733741574541314?s=19 and corroborate it here: https://twitter.com/CruzBayRealty/status/982047297130385409?s=19

septimasexta

With Eric Schmidt gone, I wonder if Google Maps could be updated to show the new landscaping on Epstein Is.? That would verify a few things.

CheeseboogersGhost

The jews are destroying the evidence of their child sex slave trafficking island

atimeandplace

I used to think this kind of talk was just assholery, but a 20 y/o jewish girl on Tumblr thinks pizzagate, satanic ritual and child sex trafficking are "fake news". She's blindly covering for something there.

CheeseboogersGhost

That's it. That's the thing. In this day of information, when truth is right at everyone's fingertips, people are still ignorant? Or are they bullshitting and covering up? I also think its the latter in most cases

lovely1

Links not working

new4now

I don't seem to be able to pull the links up

Anyone else having trouble?

Blacksmith21

The earthquake was real. I got an alert. I'm wondering if the White Hats set off a thermobaric or small nuke charge underground.

InnocentAngels

Destroying those tunnels using explosives maybe?

sore_ass_losers

The epicenter was north of the British Virgin Islands, which are way north of the US Virgin Islands, including Epstein's island. If you drew a line it just goes to the north Atlantic. So I feel it's not reasonable the explosion was in any tunnel.

(I consider myself a Caribbean-geography nazi (at least west of the Virgin Islands) thanks to research I did for this post:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2482061/12387424 )

InnocentAngels

Thanks for that. I looked it up too after your post. Looking at the map I see what you are saying. https://earthquake-report.com/2018/04/06/moderate-earthquake-road-town-british-virgin-islands-april-6-2018/

sore_ass_losers

There was a thread about Q posting that Epstein was 'burying tunnels'. I at first took it as similar to 'burying pipes' or 'burying cables'. Indeed a lot of subway systems are built by digging a trench, building the subway, then filling in. Of course it could mean filling in the tunnels, which is more consistent with this latest purported destruction by fire.

"Why is Epstein spending $29mm to bury the tunnels underneath is temple on Epstein Island?"

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2482061

The idea of an actual tunnel from say Haiti or Dominican Republic to Little St. James captured my imagination. But I don't think it's feasible.

Tunnelling machines are readily available, but the cost is around $19K/ft. This would be a very expensive tunnel and $29 million a mere pittance.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2482061/12387436

@Yogsoggoth has some knowledge of the local geology and says deep tunnels in the Virgin Islands are not likely feasible.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2482061/12393377

new4now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seikan_Tunnel

thought you might like this

notice in pic of the two islands, the smaller one has the same shape as Epsteins Island

sore_ass_losers

Interesting. Just like Little St. James that island has four lobes, that aren't aligned to compass directions (which made the Q 'compass diections' tip a bit more baffling).

Tunnel cost $7 billion in '88 for 33.5 miles of tunnel, 14,5 underwater. 34 died.

This part...

"Beneath the Tsugaru Strait, the use of a tunnel boring machine (TBM) was abandoned after less than two kilometres (1.2 miles) owing to the variable nature of the rock and difficulty in accessing the face for advanced grouting.[16][15] Blasting with dynamite and mechanical picking were then used to excavate."

...accords with what @YogSoggoth was saying...

"Simple tunnels through the limestone and above sea level are more likely. To make a submarine port would require digging the tunnel first and blowing the entrance out with explosives on an underwater cliff. That would be something he would probably not be able to accomplish without help from a country/military."

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2497982/12483498?context=10

I'd never thought of blasting an underwater tunnel, seems counterintuitive to me. Any blasting would surely be heard from St. Thomas, the main island, which is not private?

Even though this was '88 and TBMs are probably way cheaper and available, I feel Q's 'Epstein is spending $29 million to bury the tunnels' tip, if it has any veracity, couldn't refer to constructing a major tunnel. More likely the tunnels would refer to underground construction on the island, which could be what we are seeing in Rachel Chandler's photo of security cameras. I think many of the walls in the photos could be rough-hewn coral.

YogSoggoth

Actually TBMs were quite crude by today's standards in 88 and were only operated by major mining companies and military. Advanced grouting is probably nothing more than trying to find the leak from the outside with dye and pumping hydraulic cement in the crack. Depending on depth we are talking submersible robot$. Limestone can be cut fairly easily and the only blasting would be the end part which would be under water and probably not be heard. Remember that the beach was 280 to 320 ft below present day only 11,000 years ago. That means that the limestone would be exposed to acidic plant life and rain for tens of thousands of years, which tuns it into swiss cheese in many spots. Unless something harder lay below the limestone and above sea level, not likely.

sore_ass_losers

Good to hear from someone with some knowledge in this area, thanks!

So it sounds like if you wanted to build a long-range tunnel from Little St. James you'd have to have some heavy reinforcement of those first 300 odd feet down.

Hey, I'm curious, how do they guide TBMs? I suppose they measure back from the point of origin, use lasers to keep it straight, but I'd think a really long tunnel might wander a bit. (I should research, but just thought I'd ask.)

YogSoggoth

I am certainly not an expert, but few treasure hunters are. Nonetheless we find things others can't, and tend to be better at HISTORY than people who passed college. Huge debate there. TBM's are most likely as you described/invented in your mind, but without other technology they donna work so well, especially underwater. Robots are pretty much separated by lines going out of boats and autonomous, with strange variations in between. The only scenario that I can conceive of is that there is a deep tunnel under the island going to the big island that would have been built by BIG MONEY. That being said, I do not know the depth of the trench between the twain. I was looking at Do secret underground tunnels exist in Ogden? | KSL.com Rumors about secret tunnels, and what they were used for, have circulated for decades in Ogden. Many people swear they exist. Others say they're just folklore. The KSL Investigators go underground to see the evidence. Search domain www.ksl.comhttps://www.ksl.com/?sid=39811533&nid=148 when you rang.

new4now

interesting thought

we need more pics lol

YogSoggoth

Simple tunnels through the limestone and above sea level are more likely. To make a submarine port would require digging the tunnel first and blowing the entrance out with explosives on an underwater cliff. That would be something he would be probably not be able to accomplish without help from a country/military.

Blacksmith21

That's what I'm thinking. But to register a 4.9 (I saw it as a 4.3) would take something nuke sized. That's a LOT of conventional explosives.

tippyc

This comment got me wondering, so i did a little digging. I found an article that mentioned the shock waves produced recently by the North Korean nuclear tests. From what i can find, their first test back in 2006 was about a 1 kt blast that produced a magnitude 4.3 shock wave. Considering that there have been documented military (conventional) explosions consuming over 4000 tons of explosives, I'd say you could probably expect to be able to get a 4.3 or even a 4.9 with a conventional explosion, but not much more.

Blacksmith21

1kt = 1000 tons of TNT. Depending on how close the seismic sensors were would depend on on the reading. Bringing a 1000 tons of anything onto an island would be a huge pain in the ass. A SADM (SPecial Atomic Demolition Munition) has dial-a-yields (1-5kt) and could be optimized for the on-ground conditions. It also weighs under 100 lbs. Detonation in the underground tunnels would contain the radiation. It would also collapse all the subterranean tunnels and likely destabilize the ground above, causing massive building collapse. Bigger buildings may have required booster charges to topple.

tippyc

The seismic readings are adjusted for distance. Each separate sensor gets a different size wave and they extrapolate the source magnitude.

Blacksmith21

Triangulation and Doppler. I get it.

exposethecriminals

Thanks for posting. I recently came across a few pictures I had not seen before:

Boats at Little St. James -

Lady G and possibly Lady K

Calypso and Little C

Helicopter -

N331JE

Source: Alamy.com search for Epstein Island

And a list of Epstein's aircraft and motor vehicles (not sure if it includes boats) :

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/New-York/Unsorted-NY/Jeffrey-E-Epstein.60099221.html archived here

new4now

Nice, Thanks for these pics

He definetly has tunnels, no doubt about that

And they are big enough for some type of vehicles, maybe 4 wheels or one of those things at a zoo that carries a bunch of people

Was following flights on a plane registered to him maybe a month ago, it seems to go back and forth from Florida to New Jersey

Helicopter probaly mostly runs from St James to the island, maybe even south Florida

Last night was looking at a vid by Bad Guacomole with satellite pictures showing an area of island that didnt match up

In link I put up, thete seems to be construction there

Also saw a vid by silver or that addressed problems with the tennis court

On phone so don't know how copy links, but just giggled Epsteins island and came up in vids

Thanks for these pics

The more I see the better sense of island I have

exposethecriminals

You're welcome. Wow, how do you follow flights?

new4now

Mystery Above Orgy Island. (Epstein's Satellite Image manipulations) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO-JrJ06ebM

silver is suppose to be dulcefoe , auto correct :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQXlIFTZNIk

this is a good one, you might want to turn sound off lol

exposethecriminals

Thanks for the links, I'll definitely check those out

new4now

I don't usually look for vids, but one thing lead to another, you know how that works :)

new4now

The pentagram with the points of the island?

Wow is right

Also, what could be under tennis court?

Glad you pointed it out, so much info last 2 dys

new4now

Will have to post when I get home, It's on my computer at home

Might need a reminder, lol, I've been so busy lately

exposethecriminals

Thank you. No rush. I found a few flights and posted them here:

https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2499116/12483726

new4now

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N120JE

last flight was to Paris, he has a place there

https://www.curbed.com/2015/1/9/10004040/jeffrey-epstein-property-real-estate-holdings

am sure there are more, who knows

exposethecriminals

Thank you!

new4now

I have it on my phone and every time I check it, it's been updated with different flight

I should check it everyday, forgot about that lol

notice some sites easier to find on my phone then on my computer

had a hellofa time finding the right link, had to request different search to find it

DICKFART_

cant find any of these pictures on alamy? deleted or am i crazy?

exposethecriminals

If you go to www.alamy.com and type epstein island in the search bar they will come up

DICKFART_

not for me they dont. only one single picture now: with the lady and the reflecting window

Shizy

Holy crap! As soon as I saw that pic of the "temple" with the gold roof I instantly thought of Q writing about blue white and gold!!

new4now

The gold signifies temple I believe, but those blue and white stripes have me stumped

Rawrination

Reminds me of the colors of the Israel flag.

new4now

here's an interesting article

Why are Greek buildings blue and white? https://georgiemoon2016.wordpress.com/2016/05/09/why-are-greek-buildings-blue-and-white/

new4now

oh that's a good one Upvote

new4now

I'm hoping they napalmed it

sore_ass_losers

Looks like the earthquake was north of the British Virgin Islands, which are way north of the US Virgin Islands, so "just off the coast" as this article claims is completely inaccurate.

https://kek.gg/i/3tvqbq.png

new4now

The pictures are the best I've seen so far

And the reason I put link up

sore_ass_losers

Thanks for posting. Interesting that the fire seems to be more than a rumor.

new4now

There was one pic with open door that must go underground

Wind was kick'n a bit the day they took these pics

As I said, these are the best I've seen

Maybe a drone?

sore_ass_losers

The earthquake could be pretext for the fire, but it's major intelligence agency level or armed forces stuff to set it off, I'd think.

Could it just be Epstein or pals with a lighter and some accelerant? Is there anything on the island that would burn like crazy? I remember pictures of palm trees and scrubby deciduous trees and grass, was there a drought going on?

new4now

Only thing I can see that would cause a fire like that, with coast right there, would be his house and all those outbuildings

In pic where fire strongest would be his house

new4now

I was wondering the same, looks like a brush fire, what side of island I don't know

Gonna look at some pics, see if I can figure it out

Agree on intelligence involved, with most of the pics except fire pics, that one looks like It's off a boat, ship, whatever. Hmm could it be a sub? One of those little ones?

A puzzle indeed

WalnutSauceGoat

QAnon is perpetuating fake news, as usual. There was no fire.

ThePuppetShow

This is definitely fake news, but Q never said anything about a fire on EI. Are you just clueless, or do you have an agenda?

WalnutSauceGoat

The title of the post stated otherwise. And, since it was Q-related, I did not waste my time clicking through to investigate any further. Especially since it's well known that no fire occurred (it was debunked days ago).

Rawrination

Source? The OP is providing links. Please provide counter evidence if possible. At least some explanation of WHY you think Q is spouting fake news.

WalnutSauceGoat

This thread was just flaired debunked. I think that speaks for itself. Thanks for the downvotes. Onwards.

Rawrination

That without any counter proof doesn't mean shit and we all know it. This is the fucking "debunked" pizzagate forum.

WalnutSauceGoat

My apologies, I should have provided a link to where it was first debunked (a different thread). I'm just tired of this endless forum sliding. Debunking something once should be good enough. (I'm willing to BET someone else will make a post this weekend about a fire on Epstein's island.)

Rawrination

Thanks and that's all I ask. This isn't fake news, just incorrect. The fire was real and on a nearby island.