Steelstrike309

Some of you just get caught up in the weakest forms of evidence. There is a picture of a lady wearing a mask and people really believe its Abedin. How could you possibly speculate that its made of human skin, or anything??? It looks like a makeup ad that was edited. Some of you link to images and say "this image is from..---" and then just post a picture of some random crap. Some of us really appreciate a rational approach to this investigation. When you post a picture of a lady and then proclaim she's wearing human skin when there's NO POSSIBLE WAY you could know that, you sound crazy. In fact, you sound dangerous. Your willingness to follow blindly is scary.

Steelstrike309

And just to be transparent, my buddy sent me a text about this video drop and i immediately started searching the dark web. Came here for some resources after coming up short on finding the video, only to find that it's just another hype post. Very disappointed. Will continue searching for video out of desperation. I want justice.

eucalyptus_spearmint

I'm downvoting the entire post and I invite others to do so as well. A big thank you to whatever intelligent moderator flaired this as disinfo.

GeorgeT

I believe that what goes on behind the scenes is a thousand times worse than we can possibly imagine! We are talking about Event Horizon (movie) stuff!!! Total, pure evil. And the thing is, with Hillary and Huma it's written on their faces (I use the term loosely) Sickening.

hojuruku

I have deleted videos of HRC praising Terry Bean in my research stash. Someone ping me when I'm not so busy to dump them say in a month from now.

GeorgeT

When a pedo gay porn director (Terry) is on board Airforce One, standing next to POTUS (Barry - fellow pedo gay) we know that world is run amok!

sunajAeon

That's verified?

CheeseboogersGhost

Link me when it becomes available. I really could use a good puke

brbomglolwtfbbq

I dont think any video has been leaked to the darkweb. If it had, it (or at least some safe screenshots) would bleed out onto the normal internet in about half a microsecond.

mattsixteen24

There is more than one video it looks like. Go through this thread: https://mobile.twitter.com/LizCrokin/status/984220282205323264

momshorts

No, that is a World Corp video from a while ago.

mattsixteen24

Yeah, I saw the website. What's the background on that?

Mammy

True or not, I could not touch this one even with a ten foot pole. The "I Am Your Father!" video was terrible enough.

migratorypatterns

I don't know about this.

I'm glad you posted this, but what they're saying is more than bizarre. Yeah, I know ... everything these people do is bizarre. I'm thinking maybe a video like the one with Skippy is on there and people are guessing it's Killary. I don't see the man videos being dropped on the web, but there are several so ...

GeorgeT

I am sure it's all on Weiner's laptop.

janet58

I had a benign parotid gland tumor. To remove the tumor, they "removed" half my face and neatly stitched it back in place. Easy to find on Youtube, although I am not going to watch it. God only knows. I just hope this comes out and soon if true.

WalnutSauceGoat

This nitwit is simply propagating known misinformation. She’s not even making an attempt at fact checking or conducting her own independent investigation. Does she even know how to access the dark web? Lazy, armchair reporting for monetized youtube clicks.

Vindicator

That's a good point, as well. What's interesting to me is that it sounds like the kind of thing someone sitting in a room brainstorming ridiculous atrocities truthers might fall for would come up with, for laughs. I can just see them reading the Chandler stuff about cannibalism, laughing about Silence of the Lambs, and then coming up with this scheme.

think-

Its either a disinfo campaign to make people dis believe the real vid when it comes out or the whole story is just a crock of shit.

Agree.

realityisinsanity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=WAHBkEqdvXo https://hooktube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=WAHBkEqdvXo The bottom of the image appears at the 0:34 mark in this video. It could be a larp.

Steelstrike309

GREAT find. Definitely people passing around the wrong images.

Pizza_Hacker

Thanks for this link. LARPS are taking screen shots of this video and passing it around Twitter like they got screen shots from the real video.

realityisinsanity

https://kek.gg/i/5TQj4r.jpg Another supposed image of the video. You can faintly see someone crying. Turn up your screen's brightness settings to see it better.

haggl

Sure hope the quality is better then this..

rickman

That looks like a drawing I'm afraid.

SQurld

You can't see that kid?

realityisinsanity

Some anon on 4chan posted a colorized version of it and there was a face in a ball thing in the upper right corner of the image. It looked nothing like a drawing. The thread was deleted, so I couldn't upload it.

UshilReporter

It was reposted in anotherthread. Here, I 'll post the backup for you:

https://s9.postimg.cc/r9st8o8a7/1523788776561.jpg

realityisinsanity

https://kek.gg/i/5TQj4r.jpg This is a gif of a weird thing that happened on Fox News back during the 2016 elections. This was edited to see the mess up clearly. It was originally in a blue filter. It looks like a guy with a sack on his head doing something.

realityisinsanity

Sorry, here it is. https://kek.gg/i/7Wf8nP.gif

Yates

No, this is from the election. It's a random vid of Hillary where anons thought they saw the face of pepe as she walked away, then enhanced the image and it became a meme. This is not it, someone is trolling you. This incident produced a mountain of OC and is well known to anons that were involved in the election.

realityisinsanity

Still bizarre though

Yates

Only because anons altered it with photoshop to look more like pepe. It was a time when the boards were full on focused on the election and Hill mentioned the evil pepe in a speech and the internet went wild producing content. It doesn't matter that you think it looks bizarre, it's no reason to jump to conclusions or to continue claiming it's from the H/H tape when it is not.

UshilReporter

What the actual fuck?

VoatisCIA

4 fucking days ago!!!!!! Yeah the shit is real!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

https://mobile.twitter.com/LizCrokin/status/984220282205323264

nzmc

Anyone saw it ?

awakenaware

It may well just be an old rumour .. perhaps there's something real in the pipeline.. but who knows.. I tend to think we are been played big time.. that video evidence probably does exist.. will it ever get out? I honestly can't say.. I've seen how quick stuff can get erased and removed from the net.. if there was a real video of HRC it would be a real miracle for the world to see it.. considering the level of AI that exists now and coupled with various software it's easy to track and delete stuff in real time as it spreads on the net. Like I said I saw this happen back in 2003 and that tech is old school now.

VoatisCIA

WE'VE been briefed of this filleted HRC video days ago - WE trust OUR sources- the fucking video exists and is fucking real!!!!!!!!!!! Anyone saying different is a Pedo Mod or a fucking shill!!!!!!!

Gothamgirl

This picture is from the Wordcorpo channel, and it's not them.

neptunium1

Due to my interactions with Liz Crokin and her minions elsewhere on the web, where they refuse to drop any real data or evidence and have been running unsubstantiated narratives for a few days now as well as whipping emotional types up, I am of the increasing belief that this is a psychological operation to be used as an excuse to further shut down the web and place restrictions on people like us who do genuine research. It's certainly happening people... but maybe not in the way we imagined. Exercise EXTREME CAUTION AND COLD COLD LOGIC ! @vindicator

VoatisCIA

Caution!?!?!?! That fucking LINK is getting posted HERE on Voat!!!!!! Try and stop US.

neptunium1

You do your thing baby and I'll do mine.

Vindicator

I've never gotten the sense Crokin was co-opted, but I have the same doubts about the way the video is being pushed. Also, the ghostX lady was using David Seaman talking about it to bolster her message. Not exactly encouraging.

neptunium1

I've never gotten the sense Crokin was co-opted

You should get into chinese face reading ;-)

Buttfuckmebigfoot

It looks more like a mask

atimeandplace

Ten years ago I never would have believed anything like this could be possible. I would have the same "arguments" as most of you as to why it would be entirely impossible.

But there exists a novel or a series of novels where there is a family of people who skin people alive. They do it because the body releases certain things that keeps them alive. I did not know this book is going to be about this, as there was nothing on the back cover to say 'hey this is a horror novel where they skin people alive'. I didn't even get to the end of the first chapter, all I wanted to do was puke. I don't think these kinds of novels, or videos, are for the masses..... but for their little circle of sickos. These books, horror movies and more are made for the elite. It's made so they can try to ease people into accepting abhorrent violence like this. Look at the Saw movies and those like it. Depravity all ways around.

So yeah I do believe that HRC and Huma have raped and skinned a child. To say they wouldn't have the skills? I would dare say that if they have been doing it as long as HRC likely has.... they indeed would be expertly proficient at it. They need to fucking hang!!

And my god is that even a sickening thought. It's not just one child. But dozens, maybe even hundreds of child abuse victims at the hands of these two vile sickos.

GreenDell144

Nonfiction is scarier. Read “Programmed To Kill” by Dave McGowan.

But your point is taken. I know a sick underbelly exists to our society. You suspected it from the entertainment that they enjoy. It’s real.

sunajAeon

The chilling thing is-even if this particular event is untrue we know it HAS happened, and it IS happening

GeorgeT

Very few know that Human Centepede was based on Joseph Mengele's experiments - who was smuggled into Argentina to continue his experiments. Also watch Hostel Franchise and then watch Lady Gaga's music clip 'Bad Romance' - ... the part where psychpathic elite men bid for Gaga ..... Then we have Katy Perry's Cannibal video and before that .... music clip featuring ping pong tables and pizza!!!! They sure like to shove in our faces!

SterlingJB

So you believe in the existence of a video that you've never seen before cuz of a novel or a series of novels you never finished the first chapter of? Main thrust of Q seems to be about creating belief rather than distributing information. Not making an "argument", or declaring a belief, just making an observation.

Are_we_sure

Main thrust of Q seems to be about creating belief.

All humans are subject to confirmation bias. If you don't pause to check yourself via logic and critical thinking. It's extremely powerful and once it sets in, it's hard to let go off. All detectives have stories where they are convinced they have the right guy only to find the DNA doesn't match or the guy was in jail at the time. You get tunnel vision, where you unconsciously block out over evidence

Confirmation bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.

Antiracist10

But Dr. James Fetzer never shuts up about how he knows all about logic and critical thinking, and yet he buys into every conspiracy.

If a philosopher of science is no expert on logic and critical thinking, how do we know you are?

@eagleshigh @bojangles @sarmegahhikkitha

Are_we_sure

Ever heard of the exception that proves the rule? He might be that.

I have seen people on here claim the mantle of critical thinking while engaging in flat out conspiratorial speculation. There was a thread recently "critically thought" its way from the fire at Trump Tower to an attempted assassination of the President. So not everyone who claims to be doing it, knows what it is.

I don't claim at all to be an expert on it, but I know since looking into logic and critical thinking, I'm a lot better at it and my arguments are sounder. It also helps get to the core issue.

If I was an expert, I could easily pinpoint the flaw in your argument.

It might be argument from Authority, actually** looking it up** just now, it seems like it's argument from false authority.

If I had to provide a counter argument, I would say your thesis is like saying, we shouldn't use a tool because someone once used it badly.

You shouldn't use a hammer, I know someone who used a hammer and broke his thumb and a plate glass window.

This not an argument against using a tool correctly and carefully.

You shouldn't drive a car, I know someone who drove off a cliff.

Taking arguments to absurd conclusions is a way of testing if they are sound.

Antiracist10

my arguments are sounder.

What does this mean?

we shouldn't use a tool because someone once used it badly.

The question isn't whether or not we should use the tools of logic and critical thinking. The question is how we are to resolve conflicts when different parties with opposing conclusions claim to be the ones with logic and critical thinking on their side.

@eagleshigh @bojangles @sarmegahhikkitha @middle_path

Are_we_sure

my arguments are sounder.

A sound argument is a well-founded argument which is how I meant it.

In Logic, there's a formal definition of a sound argument as well.

Validation vs. soundness An argument is sound if and only if

The argument is valid, and All of its premises are true. For instance,

All men are mortal. Socrates is a man. Therefore, Socrates is mortal. The argument is valid (because the conclusion is true based on the premises, that is, that the conclusion follows the premises) and since the premises are in fact true, the argument is sound.

The following argument is valid but not sound:

All organisms with wings can fly. Penguins have wings. Therefore, penguins can fly.

Since the first premise is actually false, the argument, though valid (the premises of an argument do not have to be true in order for the argument to be valid), is not sound.

..

The question is how we are to resolve conflicts when different parties with opposing conclusions claim to be the ones with logic and critical thinking on their side.

You can examine each of their claims and their premises and see which hold up and which conclusions are logical. The same way you normally would I suppose.

eagleshigh

A sound argument is a well-founded argument which is how I meant it.

In Logic, there's a formal definition of a sound argument as well.

But how is your argument 'sounder'?

@Antiracist10 @SarMegahhikkitha @bojangles @middle_path

WalnutSauceGoat

Amen

neptunium1

A well reasoned observation. We need more like you around here.

atimeandplace

I might not have finished the novel, but I read long detailed reviews as I wanted to understand why in the fuck any sane person would write such horrific crap. I don't watch horror movies because I just think these assholes are showing off their depravity and pushing it as horror to titillate and horrify viewers.... while at the same time they are pushing this idea that such depravity can ONLY be fiction, so that when the true videos drop (ie this alleged one of Hillary and Huma) will be dismissed as CGI / prosthetics because 'lol, no one is really THAT sick'. When actually, they are. And they show it in tv and movies and novels all the time.

My belief in the video has little to do with Q and more to do with gaining an understanding in my time within the pizzagate community that the darkest deeds we could imagine pale to what these monsters really get up to. I mean what has been seen prior to this alleged video drop is reportedly so bad that it made hardened cops vomit and need psychiatric help. If we've been "prepared" through media for some pretty yuck stuff.... what worse could they have seen? I think Hillary and Huma harming a child in the ways described would rank up there.

Vindicator

I find it very, very hard to believe that either of those cows would have the knife skills to take the skin off of a live kids' face in one tidy piece like that.

rickman

I think that picture is meant to be Huma wearing a decorative mask. Not a child's face. It's the other picture, the strange one thats difficult to make out what it actually is that worries me.

Earthbalance2

While I hope this video is not real, I am not sure that a face cannot be peeled off in the same way that an entire raccoon can be skinned using a few simple cuts:

https://youtu.be/uD4btm0uUHU

Huma, at least, strikes me as someone who might indeed have such skills.

GeorgeT

My thought exactly.

Vindicator

Well, ghostX certainly sounded wound up. What/who was "Sector Zero" she was talking to? We could really use some context, here.

Vindicator

Hi @Smyrtz . For now, I'm going to give this the Possible Disinfo flair, since this is the "filletted face" story. I haven't heard of this Ghost X channel before. I find it a bit hard to believe Clinton wouldn't have been arrested if they had hard evidence of her committing this level of crime.

pizza-party-pooper-2

If entire nations are sending funds to her Foundation, you might be surprised how much money and favors help people avoid prosecution. There is a reason in the past people used to rock up with pitchforks, when they realised "the law" had been bought off.

contrary_mma_hipster

I find it a bit hard to believe Clinton wouldn't have been arrested if they had hard evidence of her committing this level of crime.

This is quite a naive attitude to have in my opinion. Certain people are untouchable, if you know anything about the Franklin scandal you should have learned this.

I don't know what to make of these reports either, but a "Wait and see" attitude is warranted for now.

awakenaware

If you find it hard to believe they wouldn't arrest Clinton with hard evidence available then I suggest you have way too much faith in a very corrupt system of governance. Don't you realise how many people are getting away Scott free right now that the FBI likely have tons of evidence they are sitting on. History is repleat with corrupt CIA and FBI and also in the UK.. stuff gets swept under the carpet every day. That's what happens here. And the more disgusting the more likely it won't see the light of day. That's what happens. Realise.

Justin_TeroG8

Waaay too LARPy....listened to vid and she's using lingo like she's talking to someone on a military CB or radio...Who confirms a vid through CB? ((eye roll))

Vindicator

Yeah, that's how it sounded to me, as well. Does anyone know this person?

ESOTERICshade

I would delete this biatch thread rite now.

Shizy

Not your choice

ESOTERICshade

Not your choice

Wrong sista. I can believe whatever i choose and we have been being set up for this bullshit for two months. I won't fall for it. You can fall for whatever you choose. You don't choose for me.

Shizy

It's not your choice to remove it! Damn! You have a hard time comprehending what others write. It gets tiresome

ESOTERICshade

It's not your choice to remove it! Damn! You have a hard time comprehending what others write. It gets tiresome

I understood you just fine the first time. I just want to see your shit shizy off your cracker. I prefer a little verification with my bullshit. Sorry, its a habit I have.

Vindicator

No, it's valuable in the very least from a disinfo tracking perspective.

ESOTERICshade

No, it's valuable in the very least from a disinfo tracking perspective

Maybe, and, an dumb bitch reading a year old rumor does not qualify as newsworthy. My opinion.

ESOTERICshade

I am suggesting that OP are full of shit. I am suggesting that this thread be deleted.

eucalyptus_spearmint

I'm with you.

awakenaware

I'm suggesting that your a little too quick to dismiss this at such an early stage.. why are you so keen to see this disappear so quickly? What's the harm in a thoughtful and careful look into this.. after all.. if it were true it would be the smoking gun we've been waiting for. Not everything that looks promising has to be disinformation.. I'm suspicious of yours or anyone elses urgent need to delete this.

Tallest_Skil

I'm suggesting that your a little too quick to dismiss this at such an early stage

There’s nothing early about this.

why are you so keen to see this disappear so quickly

Spam tends to not be allowed.

What's the harm

What’s the harm in wasting time, money, and manpower in following a jewish hoax? GEE I WONDER

if it were true it would be the smoking gun we've been waiting for

And you think that fucking matters, idiot? We have an entire warehouse of tanks and artillery that is on fire, and the government has admitted publicly that it is on fire. SHE WILL NEVER BE ARRESTED OR PUNISHED IN ANY WAY. PERIOD. NO ONE IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING.

Not everything that looks promising has to be disinformation

There’s nothing promising about this.

awakenaware

Sure it could go nowhere and qanon could be just disinformation.. many things we don't know.. but I do know you can only speak for yourself. And it's all maybes.. when people cry oh this is 100% bullshit and waste of time and have nothing else to offer that makes me suspicious for sure.

Tallest_Skil

Q-LARP is a proven hoax. We know this.

pby1000

If the poor child is Jewish, will you feel conflicted?

Tallest_Skil

No one is going to do anything to stop this shit, and there’s zero evidence the video exists, so the question is irrelevant.

pby1000

We won't do anything to stop this shit? I am not sure how we can let it continue. We may not see eye-to-eye on everything, but I think we both agree that this evil needs to be dealt with.

awakenaware

So if no one's gonna do anything then why are you here.. for shits and giggles? Heard enough. Geez

Tallest_Skil

Still not an argument. Go fuck yourself, coward. You prove me right every day.

pby1000

Nah, we will all work together and put a stop to it.

ESOTERICshade

why are you so keen to see this disappear so quickly?

I'm keen on maintaining integrity in pizzagate. We already have enough credibility problems.

awakenaware

That's bullshit.. "maintain credibility" Ha what a fucking bullshit excuse and you know it.. that shit doesn't fly with anyone. It's your credibility that's in question by a few people here I imagine by your downvoats.. Credibility.. who gives a shit about that considering everything that's going on here.. your hypocrite.. voat will never have credibility as long as it's doing its job. Geez

ESOTERICshade

That's bullshit.. "maintain credibility" Ha what a fucking bullshit excuse and you know it.. that shit doesn't fly with anyone. It's your credibility that's in question by a few people here I imagine by your downvoats.. Credibility.. who gives a shit about that considering everything that's going on here.. your hypocrite.. voat will never have credibility as long as it's doing its job. Geez

Fuck off newly unsealed sleeper account. Pizzagate has survived this long because it has been on target with the truth. We have to stay in the truth. If we stray too far we will end up getting fucked. We already have plenty of REAL evidence without biting false fish bait hooks.

derram

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=_Oh34EIlyJ8 :

EMERGENCY UPDATE: HRC RAPE TAPE DROPPPED! #QANON #CBTS #PIZZAGATE #PEDOGATE #FRAZZLEDRIP #PEDOVORE - YouTube

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