DeathToMasonsASAP

What I have is that the CIA is has been connected and obviously behind every major cult. They seem to use it to test their extreme mind control, seperation of victims from families and overall manipulation of others lives. Seeing that actors are being used and CIA runs media, I have a feeling the connection will be made.

Earthbalance2

Just a comment that Skull and Bones used to be all male, but changed admission policies somewhat recently: https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/02/skull-and-bones-its-not-just-for-white-dudes-anymore/273463/

migratorypatterns

Thanks so much.

Appreciate it.

carmencita

EEK. Looks like Ranier's relatives are as afraid of him as others. They have written a letter asking him to be kept behind bars he has been harassing a family member for some time. https://radaronline.com/exclusives/2018/05/nxivm-sex-cult-family-demand-keith-raniere-behind-bars/

migratorypatterns

Hey, thanks for this. Great find.

Yeah, that guy is supercreepy. I get the unhinged vibes just from his pictures. Can't imagine what his cult members went through.

carmencita

The funny thing is that the letter is bothering me. Would people of that stature and wealth send a scrawled letter like that? That's they only thing. Could be real. He is a sociopath. That is for sure.

migratorypatterns

Would people of that stature and wealth send a scrawled letter like that?

They would if they thought they were invincible. And the converse is also a legitimate question. Would someone submit to a court of law a letter that wasn't authentic?. Again, it depends on the individual.

carmencita

That's always the question. We have to ask so many times if things are truthful or not because of the nature of this research. Since Frank is mentioned in the article I have a little more faith.

migratorypatterns

Yup, even with scumbags you gotta be fair. This said even though they'd never be fair to anyone but themselves.

Blacksmith21

"Dr. Pena had once asked her and several other women during a social dinner if they preferred to spit or swallow during oral sex."

It'll turn up. She's connected somehow. Let the autists aut or whatever they do. This is another plot. Only an Obama administration troll could figure out a way to get this troll a YW clearance. She's going bye-bye. Don't think for a second that she didn't pull every trick in the book around him.

I bet Pence has his wife (and SS) with him at all medical exams as well.

GreenDell144

This is much bigger than I thought. Wow.

migratorypatterns

Yes. well, even if the one big allegation about this being a honey trap is in error, there's enough evidence that is known to question what the hell is going on. In addition, if her association with NXIVM is validated, it answers my question as to what the cult's goal was. I've asked that since day one, and it seems to be (again, assuming this is true), that they have well-placed, branwashed zombies in place to do their bidding. So if it means destroying someone's life with a lie, hey, no problem!

new4now

WOW

when I first started looking into NXIVM, I never thought it was this big and extensive

migratorypatterns

Well, I can't say I ''knew'', but I did suspect it. It's why I kept asking what their goal was?

Yeah, sex slaves re nice, but it couldn't be the reason Raniere was doing this. Why have daycare centers? Why have Gaelen at the headquarters? And the psychological experiments, it all spells having master plan. So if this is true, I have some sort of tangible answer to my question. THIS is what the goal was. To have these people in places to do his or his friend's bidding. I don't know about you, but I don't know any people willing to destroy someone's life with a lie. But it seems that, even without believing the honey trap story, it's what she was willing to do when she put passed on inaccurate stories to Tester.

Man, the deep state is deep ... and scummy. These people are without shame.

new4now

thing I dont get, is how he got away with a slap on the wrist in Arkansas

then headed to NY

by 2012, 5 yrs ago, serious complaints were coming in on him and his group

where are these protectors now?

smh, 20th century Charles Mason before the killings

migratorypatterns

Five? The story broke in 2007. Here's one of them:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2007/10/all_about_nxivm_the_cultlike_o.html

All About NXIVM, the Cultlike Organization With Ties to Albany

Why should we pay attention to this psycho factory? Because it has well-placed, well-heeled members and appears to be actively pursuing an entrée into political fund-raising. Stone, paid by NXIVM, had funneled at least $20,000 to the state GOP; the heirs to Seagram’s fortune are devotees; and, per the Post, Richard Mays — a Clinton friend and one of Hillary’s top fund-raisers — is an “Espian” as well, having taken so-called intensive classes with Raniere. The Aleksey Vayner type who preaches that suicide can be good (if you’re a counter-constructive person, removing yourself from the planet is a constructive act) becomes just a little less hilarious when you realize he’s got the ear of people with actual policy decisions to make.

So there are your ties to Skankles. And remember, he'd already been convicted of a pyramid scheme in Arkansas under Sick Slick Willy and merely paid a fine. What other deal was cut that allowed him to keep his freedom? Then there's this articles claim about Mays being involved and him being the Cannibal Queen's top fundraiser. And the NXIVM ties to Albany? Elliott Spitzer was governor then. Another democrat, he resigned in 2008, amidst a prostitution scandal. According to Wikileaks:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eliot_Spitzer_prostitution_scandal

On March 10, 2008, The New York Times reported that Governor of New York Eliot Spitzer had patronized an elite escort service run by Emperors Club VIP.[1] The ensuing scandal led to him receiving criticism and ridicule in the media, and eventually Spitzer resigned as Governor a week later on March 17.

So what was this Emperors Club VIP? And how does it figure in to what was going on?

And absolutely, Manson was a prototype as was Jim Jones. There obviously is a process to this brainwashing, but there's also a method to the madness. As always to whose benefit was it to keep this cult propped up and operating?

Followthemoney

Vindicator

MP, who made the claim that Pena was associated with NXIVM?

migratorypatterns

It's in the story I have linked. This one:

http://impiousdigest.com/montana-senator-jon-tester-linked-to-vile-honey-trap-plot-against-president-trump/

An intriguing new Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) report circulating in the Kremlin today reveals that a “Honey Trap” plot initiated against President Donald Trump had as one of its main leaders the Democratic Party US Senator from Montana named Jon Tester—whose purpose behind was to eject from the White House its personal physician US Navy Admiral Ronnie Jackson in order to replace him with US Army Doctor Jennifer Peña—with Dr. Jennifer Peña being a known close associate of the just captured Hollywood actress Allison Mack arrested for her sex trafficking crimes—but whose plot failed and led to Trump to declare this past weekend “Tester started throwing out things that he’s heard.

with Dr. Jennifer Peña being a known close associate of the just captured Hollywood actress Allison Mack

Then there's this from the same link:

Raising “alarm bells” among SVR intelligence analysts about the Bronfman sisters meeting with Senator Tester, though, this report says, was that they were accompanied to this meeting by Dr. Jennifer Peña, who was then the personal physician to Vice President Mike Pence—and with all of these women being members of what is called the NXIVM cult sex group.

So she was in this meeting with the Bronfman sisters ... and she's friends with Allison Mack? Yeah, we've read how NXIVM operates. Can't be she was a close associate of Mack and not know about NXIVM. It's not plausible. Mack was even tweeting about it.

That's the part I can't confirm. I did put the link and said it's ''an allegation'' and not fact. But given that twitter exchange where so much came out about Pena, I felt that it was enough to cast her in a different light than how she's being portrayed. Just because she's lied once, doesn't mean she'll do it again, but I really doubt her ethics because she's been involved in a number of things.

I think if some genius comes up with an affirmative connection, then there'll be more weight given to this, but there's no doubt something was going on.

Vindicator

I did put the link and said it's ''an allegation'' and not fact.

Yep, thank you for that. And thanks for the additional info about the source of the allegation. :-)

carmencita

UH-OH. Here is the same report and this one has someone's name on it that we all recognize. Sorcha Faal. http://wethepeoplefree.com/tag/tester/

carmencita

I found this and it says Pena is a known associate of Mack, but how is that so. I will keep looking, but it says so in this article. https://www.blogarama.com/global-affairs-blogs/1294727-wethepeoplefree-blog/25021899-repost-permission-montana-senator-jon-tester-linked-vile-honey-trap-plot-against-president-trump

Are_we_sure

About two dozen people made accusations against Jackson.

EricKaliberhall

About 20 000 people made accusations against Alefantis.

Are_we_sure

Wow. Just wow.

Does that actually make sense to you?

Blacksmith21

[–] Blacksmith21 [S] 1 points (+1|-0) 17 hours ago

You embarrass yourself every time you touch a keyboard. Everything I do is to find the pedos and out them. Are you for or against that mission AWS? Do you believe all pedophiles should be hung and disposed of @are_we_sure ?

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[–] Blacksmith21 [S] 2 points (+2|-0) 15 hours ago

I'm still waiting for an answer @Are_we_sure . Step up to the fucking mic you punk ass coward.

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[–] Are_we_sure -2 points (+0|-2) 9.4 hours ago

HA!

I'll be sure to get right on that.

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[–] Blacksmith21 0 points (+0|-0) 1 second ago

So in other words @Are_we_sure :

1) AWS does NOT support the huntiing down of pedophiles and exposing them for any purpose

2) AWS does NOT support the death penalty for pedos.

Are you for or against #1 or #2 @Are_we_sure ? Or are you just another pizzaboi?

I'm gonna fucking hang this around your neck at every chance I get fuckstain.

EricKaliberhall

It makes perfect sense, with the knowledge that you are a Media Matters whore!

Are_we_sure

LOL.

0 for 2.

Kiwi_Slave

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. AFAIK, Skull & Bones is all male and always will be. I do not doubt that Yale has a sinister sorority for the distaff side, but that is another story. If Dr Pena really was in Skull & Bones, he would have had a penis and a male name at that time.

migratorypatterns

Not true.

https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/02/skull-and-bones-its-not-just-for-white-dudes-anymore/273463/

Fifteen Yale seniors are tapped annually to join the ranks of Skull and Bones, their names published in the Yale tabloid Rumpus at the end of every school year. The class of 2010 included more ethnic minorities than Caucasians; 2011's delegation included two gay students, plus one bisexual and one transgender. Last year, women and men were equally split, according to Yalies familiar with the members.

As for the honey trap allegation, as I stated pretty clearly, I posted about it only because of the evidence showing Dr. Pena to be less than truthful. I do not have any supporting independent evidence, but the proven charges against Dr. Pena are extremely disturbing and lead me to speculating that she could very well be involved in something along those lines. That is not evidence, that is my opinion. I understand the difference and I'm waiting for someone to either corroborate this or prove it's fallacious. o

Sackajahweeda

There are lady bonesmen hahaha but frfr there are.