Calling Out Mike Cernovich as a Punk Bitch Ass Poser and a Shill! Doesn't Understand Why It's Important for Skankles to be Arrested! ( pizzagate )

submitted by migratorypatterns

Relevancy: Mike Cernovich pushed himself to the forefront of Pizzagate by insisting he was this HUGE Trump supporter! Ever since he's tried to cash in on this ''fame'' by writing books, vlogging, making movies (WTH ever happened with that? Money? Money? Where did t go?), and anything else he can come up with.

I always gave this wuss the benefit of the doubt. Even when he received a redacted court Epstein document and mistook it for him being sued? Hard to believe an attorney would do that, but okay. And he's said some strange things. Like that he used to take drugs and party with transgenders. Some old tweets were pretty disgraceful -- especially the language he used. I didn't dismiss that entirely because those tweets were bizarre. But a couple of months ago, I saw this tweet where he was soliciting his services to someone in the Killary camp. Don't remember her name or what she was embroiled in, but it struck me the wrong way. Ever since I saw it, I haven't been following any of his posts, but when I went on Twitter tonight, the following was in my feed:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/992468292492120064

I honestly don't get it. How does your life improve if Hillary Clinton is arrested?

(Spoiler alert: She won't be.)

KABOOM!

My head exploded upon reading this! Seriously, how the fuck can he even ask a question like this? Or defend her? Or give a SPOILER ALERT?!!!! What? Is he trying to be cute? He's anything but!

In the first place, he knows SHIT about ANYTHING going on in the DOJ, the FBI, or anyone else for that matter! I would hardly give credence to his opinion on legal matters involving The Cannibal Queen's culpability in any of the perversions or crimes that have taken place, but the circumstantial evidence is MORE THAN TROUBLING! Because it is, it HARDLY DESERVES A PASS!

In the second place, HTH can a Trump supporter, knowing all the shit we know, possibly NOT think that she should be arrested? And notice he doesn't even deny that she's committed crimes. He doesn't ask us WHICH of the numerous scandals do we think has enough traction to bring her down. Oh, no! Instead, he centers his question on nonsense! I mean, why is he hinging this question of this bitch going to jail on how it will improve our lives?

How did the arrest today of the sex traffickers improve any of our lives? It didn't put money in the bank. It didn't put food on the table, but doesn't knowing they won't be able to victimize women and children, and not use to money to fund other illicit schemes help us sleep better at night? Doesn't the fact that we know our government/ICE are taking action against these traffickers ease our minds and give us the security that we have a responsive government? In other words, think about how troubling it would have been if ICE issued a statement that they'd found a trafficking ring, but wouldn't take action because it wouldn't improve any our lives. WE'D BE LIVID!

So in case you didn't see this, now you do! There is no explanation or apology he could possibly offer that would clear this up for me. He is officially off my list of resources for information. Further, I hope his little shill indie journalist sham he's wearing falls apart!

Fuck Cernovich!

Gothamgirl

That witch belongs in prison, fuck him. I want to be the one to drag her there.

migratorypatterns

That witch belongs in prison,

This.

Cc1914

IMO he was just another tool . He has thousands of followers counting on him for accurate info. He realed them all in by making ones think he was actually on a pedo hunt. WOW 🙄 I G

migratorypatterns

I agree with you. He's had a kickstarter campaign:

https://www.patreon.com/MikeCernovich

for his movie HOAXED that raised $163,007. Money was to be released Dec 2017. Here' s the YouTube trailer released in 2017.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JF2ySLn7oI

Where is it? Oh, it's going to be released in May of 2018 which would be NOW! Here's the tweet:

https://twitter.com/cernovich/status/955864741284429824?lang=en

Hoaxed Movie - May 2018: http://youtu.be/_Wytj0-EZ74?a via @YouTube

The opening is Cernovich, pretending to be all professorial. We'll see if the movie lives up to this being as slick as the trailers.

Then there's a Patreon account:

Every day I wake up ready to raise hell and bring you the news and stories that others are afraid to tell. I take on the entire mainstream media, and they now live in fear of me. Everyone from Gawker to the Washington Post to the Daily Beast has tried to take me out. They have failed and will fail.

This is what he's selling, but how does capitulating to Killary and giving her a pass fit in with this HELLRAISER persona?

He's a poser.

Cat_anon

Washington DC is filled with conscienceless people who realize their lives will not be made better if Hillary is arrested, thus they let her continue on.

migratorypatterns

Good point.

It's why she hasn't been arrested. Because people are making money off the systems she's set into place.

Better money that will improve their lives instead of justice.

Soulbrotha2

Milke Cernovich =hype=BS=a need to hear himself talk=yawn

migratorypatterns

So agree with you.

A two-bit punk with a big mouth and a camera.

And what did happen to that movie he was touting? He raised THOUSANDS. Shades of Feldman? Remember how it was going to change civilization? But oddly --

IT HASN'T IMPROVED OUR LIVES

Soulbrotha2

Only we can improve our lives

migratorypatterns

Well put ...

The fire on Epstein's Lolita Island didn't improve my life and neither did Tony Pedosta closing shop.

I applauded them, but nope! Still dragging my ass to work every day.

Soulbrotha2

He should have zero influence on anyone. This is the kind of kid we beat up in school

migratorypatterns

Ha! UpVoat for the laugh.

Indeed. That pretty well sums it up.

Justin_TeroG8

Q said there would be information and disinformation. What if POTUS has called on Cernovich to say what he's saying? I dont agree with a lot of what he says but over all he's for Trump and against the corporate elite bankers. You gotta give your Trump supporters more grace and let people be wrong sometimes. I'd rather be in the trenches with a guy like Cernovich fighting these evil bastards, than with any Liberal. Everyone in an Army Unit won't all believe in the same things. The two things they gotta remember is why they are fighting and which team they are on.

migratorypatterns

Look, I respect the hell out of you and what you said, but just no. Cernovich has nothing to do with Q. Nothing. If you trace him back, he's had very disturbing misogynist tweets. I mean, shockingly filthy and coarse. Like I said, while it wasn't enough to dislodge me from backing him, it did stick with me and planted some seeds of doubt. I mean, people do change ... and sometimes people going through a stressful situation act really, really badly. So maybe the tweets were an outgrowth of that, but in coming up with a scenario, I really was being an apologist. They were wrong and he was wrong. But this is an entirely different matter.

Once of the hallmarks of Trump campaign was build that wall and

LOCK HER UP

One of the unforgettable moments of the debates, and the one that got my vote was when he told Skankles, she'd be in jail:

“It's just awfully good that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump is not in charge of the law in our country,” Mrs. Clinton observed. “Because,” Mr. Trump replied “you'd be in jail.”

In other words, it's one of the promises he ran on! One of the important ones. And now we have this guy going ahead and, in essence, ''normaliziing'' Clinton's behavior? And more or less putting the onus on those seeking justice for past crimes as somehow deranged because it won't improve our lives?

I think that tells me all I need to know about this scumball. It more allows me a window to view his psychological holding cell because it's telling me that HE doesn't do anything without something improving HIS life. Whether it's momentarily or attracting attention to give him greater importance, he's not going to be motivated to do anything without the payoff. To hell with doing something because it'll improve OTHER people's lives. I guess that's an anathema to him. Some foreign concept to be reviled and loathed, but in justice, that's often what we do. We insist on punishment because it aids in healing a victim's life. Does he think Juanita Broaddrick wouldn't markedly be improved if Slick Willy had been convicted and gone to jail for what he did? Or would he claim her still speaking about the crime was foolish because at this point it wouldn't ''improve her life''?

I'm done talking about this. Ether someone gets the monumental stupidity of uttering such a notion, or one doesn't. But I'm not on the enabler train anymore, and I'm not handing out free passes to pompous, self-serving assholes who want to make a name for themselves. And that's all Cernovich is.

Someone lusting after fame and this is the vehicle that'll get him known.

Vindicator

Upvote for you, JT.

migratorypatterns

Not for nothing, but the reason I didn't even get the notification of @Ben_Matlock (who the hell is he again?) is because I'd BLOCKED him. If I have somebody blocked it's because they're a straight up asshole. No, I don't block people just because they say something mean. Or because they don't disagree. I do it because they're idiots/shills/disruptive and add nothing to the conversation. I also block when they seem to have a personal agenda in making life difficult for a select poster. Evidently, whatever set me off to block him fell into one of those categories, and now he's a Junior Moderator? You've got to be kidding me! There's a whole contingency on Voat that hates what I do and now they have someone to turn to a whine about what I post? Someone who's going to listen to this nonsense?

Don't know how I feel about this ... he's so insignificant in my life and yet this is the position I'm put in now.

Whatever.

ben_matlock

for something which is so insignificant, you seem awfully concerned.

i haven't the foggiest notion why you blocked me. frankly i don't care. you are likely the only user on this entire platform that has. i aim to treat everyone fairly and with respect, which i'm confident i've done since i joined this community in Nov. '16.

you obviously don't share my values, which is fine. it's not a rule here to be mutually respectful. personally, though, i don't care too much for your insulting, overly hysterical reaction to a simple 24hr edit flair. but so is the life of a lowly janitor...we evidently need to deal with a lot of crap.

Vindicator

Not for nothing, but the reason I didn't even get the notification of @Ben_Matlock (who the hell is he again?) is because I'd BLOCKED him. If I have somebody blocked it's because they're a straight up asshole. No, I don't block people just because they say something mean. Or because they don't disagree. I do it because they're idiots/shills/disruptive and add nothing to the conversation.

Ben was announced when @think- and I formed the new mod team. There's a post in v/pizzagatemods . He is our night watchman because he is from Asia...very valuable in the event of a late night hentai flood. It's because of him that I can go to bed at a decent hour.

I vetted all of the mods pretty thoroughly and would never choose someone who is an enemy to PG or to investigators. Could you tell me what it was specifically that caused you to think he was someone you needed to block? I have never seen anything shillish or disruptive from him...he is particularly mild-mannered and noninflammatory (one of the main reasons I invited him to mod -- he doesn't get caught up in flame wars).

I wonder if there is a chance you misunderstood something he said at some point? Do you typically reply to notifications through your inbox rather than from the thread comment tree? If so, you may have misconstrued a comment of his as a reply to you when it was a reply to someone commenting in one of your submissions. For example, if Donkey or one of our other termites said something shitty, and ben replied to his comment, you may have thought he was attacking you when he was really defending you, just as you apparently did with exposethecriminals in comments of this thread, when they were trying to help you.

Someone who's going to listen to this nonsense?

I carefully chose all the mods we have now BECAUSE they are resistant to nonsense. We are all here to help, MP. Truly.

migratorypatterns

I wonder if there is a chance you misunderstood something he said at some point? Do you typically reply to notifications through your inbox rather than from the thread comment tree? If so, you may have misconstrued a comment of his as a reply to you when it was a reply to someone commenting in one of your submissions.

This. I could possibly have misconstrued something. I do read comments through my Inbox most times. As to what it was, I don't know. I absolutely don't remember.

However, I just got a message from think- saying I'd blocked him on his first day on VOAT. I'll take his/her word for that. That was months ago, so for me to block someone their first day ... I don't know. It really shifts me back to thinking that I didn't misunderstand anything and that the block was justified. And since he's been blocked, I haven't seen any of his other comments. 99% of the time, I don't read blocked responses. It's why I didn't even know who he was and thought either you or think- had flaired the thread.

It's not like I have a vendetta against him. If I did, I'd at least remember his name. And if his being onboard allows you to get some sleep, more power to the arrangement.

think-

Can confirm, @migratorypatterns . @ben_matlock is a nice guy, and a good mod, and I appreciate him as fellow mod.

IIRC, you blocked him on his first day as a mod, about 2,5 months ago. ;-) Don't know why, though.

migratorypatterns

IIRC, you blocked him on his first day as a mod, about 2,5 months ago. ;-) Don't know why, though.

I don't either, but like I said, I don't block people unless they're behaving in a way that suggests they need blocking. And we'll agree to disagree. Lots of times, there's someone that other people like, and I don't. Doesn't make them bad, just means I don't get along with them.

co2_emitter

I stopped paying attention to him a few months ago....he's not consistent at all.

migratorypatterns

Good for you.

And he isn't at all consistent. Completely in it to build some kind of empire or following. And he did another stupid half-assed thing that I don't remember. It was so dumb ... dumb, dumb, dumb.

migratorypatterns

@think- I don't know why the warning. I've edited the relevance, but don't know why this isn't connected to pizzagate.

think-

I'm just in, migratory. I will take a look. Ben is a mod, you can see his name on the mod list in the sidebar.

migratorypatterns

Thanks.

I was confused because I got no notification like I usually do and couldn't imagine why this was being questioned. But upon investigation, I see that I have @Ben_Matlock blocked. I only do that to assholes/shills so he's got to fall into one of those categories.

Thanks for responding.

Lobotomy

Cernokike is a kike piece of jewish shit?

NO WAY. TELL ME MORE. You're a bit fuckin late to the party, OP.

This also has absolutely nothing to do with Pizzagate. Downvoted for that.

exposethecriminals

Vanity Fair magazine:

"Mike Cernovich, the Internet figure most responsible for pushing Pizzagate into the discourse"

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/10/mike-cernovich-trump-pac

migratorypatterns

Trying something new?

And how is he most responsible?

This is what I mean! These fucking shills push themselves to the front and get PR! And it's funny that authentic pizzagate journalists -- like David Seaman got thoroughly pushed out! Even though he was a LEGITIMATE JOURNALIST! He got sick, his friend was murdered, people posted all sorts of shit, AND he got BANNED FROM TWITTER FOR LIFE! If that isn't hardcore, I don't know what is!

But this punk ass poser somehow ceases validity? How? HTH does that happen? I know fifty million people on VOAT who've done amazing investigative work, but this little POS gets his name written up in Vanity Fair?!!!!

sunajAeon

Seaman is the biggest BS ass-clown on the internet

migratorypatterns

Next to Cernovich, he's a saint.

exposethecriminals

Oh gosh I don't know anything about Cernovich, I could never watch his videos.

I'm not a shill. I posted the Vanity Fair link to your thread to try to help you because the mod said the thread would be deleted without something tying MC to PG.

@ben_matlock wrote:

Your personal opinion of Cernovich aside, I'm failing to see how this post is directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate (Rule 1). Perhaps this would be a more suitable post for v/pizzagatewhatever or v/politics .

That said, you (and the community) have 24hrs to establish a direct link between Cernovich and #pg.

Vindicator

Thanks for helping out, EC. You are a good egg. :-)

ben_matlock

Thanks for sharing that VF link. OP was a bit of a jerk in his response to you. You were obviously just trying to help improve the quality of his submission.

migratorypatterns

Who the fuck is @ben_matlock ?

Who are you? I don't know you. Are you a moderator here because if you are .... ????

@Vindicator ? @think- Who is this jerk?

Vindicator

@ben_matlock has been a mod almost as long as think-, MP. He's just doing his job. You can't expect mods to know everything, especially since Thermobitcth was outed as a shill early in 2017 and no one on this sub has taken him seriously in a year. I didn't see your post before you edited it, but Ben was right to flair it if you just shared the tweet link and your opinion and disgust with that huckster, without explaining the role he played early on. We get noobs in here all the time, and we need to give background information. This is a research sub, remember? :-)

migratorypatterns

All I know is that I blocked him and never blocked think-. That tells me all I need to know.

And I don't expect anything, but a leading shyster promoting pizzagate? I would think anyone involved in the subject would know how he's involved. As for the suggestion of putting the post in politics, Cernovich aligned himself with Dershowitz in the Epstein sex with a minor case. How is that political? And it's not ''whatever'' either since pizzagate has focused on Dershowitz and Epstein for months and months now.

And I didn't know think- either. I only became aware of think- when s/he was introduced. I'm just here to post. I don't get into who's a mod or who's not. And I was confused because I'd blocked him/her and didn't get a notification. Not even for the reason. I found out when I read through the submission and saw he was blocked. I was like, no ... the block couldn't be because of this guy/girl, so I clicked ''show'' and read.

In summary, this is my problem that someone I think is an asshole is a mod and not yours. I'm sure this person does not talk to you the way s/he does to me. Consequently, I'll deal with it. Thanks.

Vindicator

In summary, this is my problem that someone I think is an asshole is a mod and not yours. I'm sure this person does not talk to you the way s/he does to me. Consequently, I'll deal with it. Thanks.

If a mod is being shitty to legit users, I need to know about it. That said, when I chose mods, I read their comment histories back months to make sure they were fair, not pushing any one agenda, and had the well-being of the whole community at heart. Please let me know why you think there is a problem.

migratorypatterns

Thanks.

exposethecriminals

I agree with you. How would it improve anyone's life? Just one example, any 12-year old could read the circumstances around the 100+ Clinton-connected deaths, with the Clintons' names replaced with pseudonyms if need be, and know those two are very hazardous to people's and society's health, and might be mass murderers, by proxy.

sunajAeon

It would improve my life, seeing the witch in a cell for the rest of her miserable life

migratorypatterns

Exactly! I was walking around fuming thinking of the federal prosecutors, whistleblowers, friends, Haitian officials, and ex-Secretary of Commerce Ron Brown! Need I mention Nancy Schaefer! No, I don't think Killary went to the house and personally murdered her and her husband -- how could she on those CANKLES!!!! But who was behind what was concluded to be a murder/suicide? Who would it benefit to silence her and keep all the names she was going to release, and all the crimes CPS was committing a secret? For her alone, somebody should burn in hell!

And do I need to mention Seth Rich? WHO WAS BEHIND THAT? Geeeee ....

But how is it going to improve our lives to find out who FUCKING MURDERED SETH RICH AND PUT THAT PERSON IN FUCKING JAIL?

So ricidulous!

ben_matlock

Hi @migratorypatterns ,

Your personal opinion of Cernovich aside, I'm failing to see how this post is directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate (Rule 1). Perhaps this would be a more suitable post for v/pizzagatewhatever or v/politics .

That said, you (and the community) have 24hrs to establish a direct link between Cernovich and #pg.

Thanks.

Vindicator

MP has added links, so I'm removing the flair. Thanks ben. Cernovich is directly related because he was trying to help Dershowitz unseal the court records of Epstein's underage victims while posing as a Trump supporter. Also, he was one of the early proponents of Pizzagate, before the election during the initial Wikileaks drops. It was quite a while back, and he's a huckster. Goats figured his BS out pretty early on. (RebelSkum and JrSlimss busted him via legal docs on the Epstein thing).

ben_matlock

Thanks, just logged on to do the same.

derram

https://archive.fo/7r3cM :

Mike Cernovich 🇺🇸 on Twitter: "I honestly don't get it. How does your life improve if Hillary Clinton is arrested? (Spoiler alert: She won't be.)"

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