Enigmatic_Continuum

Wow! Thanks for adding this.

Kekalicious

Worst part of this is my wife used to work at a restaurant that all the old town crowd goes to in Baraboo, WI. One of the Ringling family, as an old man was purposely left with a kid so the mom could sue if anything happened. She knew the history and set her own kid up to get paid. (It did and she did indeed get paid.) But the rumors in the area are all the Ringling's fly that way. Small town charm.

Enigmatic_Continuum

What in the actual fuck?!?! That's so messed up.

urbanmoving

Another reason I never went to the circus, lame, scary in some aspects, and carnies are notorius dirtbags, an excellent front for a criminal operation.

spacepopecoast2coast

been downgraded to basic network TV recently - late at night they run these "LOVESHRINERS.ORG" commercials over and over again, they are a huge bummer to say the least...

ignoring the creepiness of the term "Love Shriners," I've noticed the kids they choose to feature in these commercials seem to be exceptionally sick often with very prominent physical deformities - seems more "graphic" (I am sorry to have to use that word) than the type of kids a typical charity would cast for their TV spots .. they just give me a bad vibe

Enigmatic_Continuum

Good observation and I've never seen those commercials before. The fact that only disabled kids are shown is not a surprise. After all, this is the Shriners' claim to fame as they constantly promote that they help these children. Sadly and strangely, not one cent of their circus proceeds helps children. How nice of the Shriners to do something to entertain children when all of the attending families' money goes to the Shriners' lodge/temple/frat entertainment such as their liquor cabinet. What a fucking joke!

spacepopecoast2coast

i was about to post a YT link to a commercial, but I'm a little scared of what my recommended section would start popping up haha

also notable, the abundance of pedobear symbolism used in the commercials - one ad I noticed contained a teddy bear either physically or sewn into a blanket in every single shot featuring one of these children

Enigmatic_Continuum

I did a search for carnival workers charged with molestation and rape, and here's a fairly recent article. It's a very sad story, and it's interesting that the article mentions nothing about him being a carnival worker except in the title. He abducted the boy from a bowling alley, and at least the boy is still alive. I pray he's healing.

http://trib.com/news/local/casper/jury-convicts-carnival-worker-of-kidnapping-molesting--year-old/article_46f6c456-44f2-55cb-a9f8-c1fd17e8f976.html

Quicktor

Check this out dude...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Lewis The "King of Comedy" and top box office draw in 50's

"Outside of his career, Lewis supported fundraising for muscular dystrophy research, serving for 60 years as spokesman for and national chairman of the Muscular Dystrophy Association and has also hosted and emceed the live Labor Day weekend television broadcast of The Jerry Lewis MDA Labor Day Telethon for 44 years."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jerry_Lewis_MDA_Labor_Day_Telethon Charity staple that started the whole "Call in" fundraising format...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3_Ring_Circus

This is the film he never released to the public.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Clown_Cried

Lot off curious information on the film itself..... https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068451/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_7

AND FOR BONUS.... https://stevenspielbergchronicles.tumblr.com/post/164449473756/jerry-lewis-comedy-legend-dies-at-91

and to think Steven Spielberg's mentor named his production company after Jerry Lewis gave him his congratulations....

http://d3j0sq6zklqdqq.cloudfront.net/photos/2017/03/14/53-40176-jerry-lewis-spielberg-1489500723.jpg

Jerry Lewis was not a nobody...In my opinion, he was genuinely one of the most feared/powerful men in show business...(if not the Joker himself....and I'm dead serious...)

This "clown" shit is no joke....and the fact that no one has jumped all over your exquisite post reveals to me how little the folks around here now OR care about what's REALLY going on...

keep onto this shit if you got the stomach, either way good job...

Enigmatic_Continuum

Great information, and I've always wondered about Lewis myself. That photo of him pulling on Spielberg's beard is strange. Everyone looks so serious. I can hear Heath Leger's Joker now saying, "Why so sserioussss?"

It's also bizarre that this movie is referenced in so many others, including 'Cannibal Holocaust', Scooby Doo, The Shining, and others https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068451/movieconnections/?tab=mc&ref_=tt_trv_cnn

'Cannibal Holocaust' is deemed as one of the top ten most disturbing films http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/08/the-50-most-disturbing-movies/cannibal-holocaust

Spielberg also included the clown lamp and doll in 'Poltergeist'

During the scene where Robbie (Oliver Robins) is being strangled, the clown's arms became extremely tight and Robins started to choke. When he screamed out, "I can't breathe!" director Steven Spielberg and Tobe Hooper thought that the boy was ad-libbing and just instructed him to look at the camera. When Spielberg saw Robbins's face turning purple, he ran over and removed the clown's arms from Robbins' neck. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084516/trivia

From the same source as above: (At 34 minutes into the film) There is a "jump cut" from the scene where Diane is explaining to Steven about the feeling you get when the spirit pulls you across the floor. The scene jumps mid sentence to the scene where they are both on their neighbor's doorstep, again in mid sentence. The reason for the cut was because in the original scene, director Steven Spielberg says how he hates Pizza Hut. The scene was edited (rather crudely) after Pizza Hut took offence.

Also from the same source:

Both of the terrors that plague Robbie came from director Steven Spielberg's own fears as a child: a fear of clowns and a tree outside his window.

Again, same source:

Heather O'Rourke was chosen for the film when she was eating lunch with her mother and sister at an MGM commissary. Director Steven Spielberg came up to them and wanted O'Rourke for the part of Carol Anne. She initially failed the screentest because she kept laughing her way through the audition, even when she was supposed to be afraid. Spielberg thought she was too young to take the part seriously, but he still recognized something special in her, so he asked her to come back for another audition, and this time, bring a scary storybook with her. He also asked her to scream, so she screamed and screamed until she started crying. This audition got her cast as Carol Anne.

You have found a serious connection here between Lewis and Spielberg I hadn't identified before and I believe you're correct about Lewis' power in Hellywood. He was a feared person, and It's interesting that he gave the movie to the Library of Congress with one exception: Despite claims the film will never be screened, Lewis reportedly donated a copy of the film to the Library of Congress in 2015, under the stipulation that it wouldn't be screened before June 2024. Why this particular date? The only thing of significance I've found is that 2024 is a leap year, which means it has 366 days instead of 365.

As an aside, American Horror Story linked terrifying clowns with the election: https://www.bustle.com/p/the-ahs-cult-trailer-has-a-deeper-meaning-you-probably-missed-78269

Again, excellent connections you made and I welcome any additional info you can find.

Quicktor

Well if we're calling out grade A sickos and snuff films being hidden within large-scale movie productions, look no further than ELI ROTH...HE'S THE BEAR JEW FOR CHRIST SAKES....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eli_Roth READ ENTIRE PROFILE AND LOOK WHO HIS FATHER IS...I never even got close to being able to watch 'Green Inferno', which appears to be a damn-near remake of 'Cannibal Holocaust'...and as an artist look at his personal works (directed/produce/written)...his past work/ life experience, his undeniable intellect, his cinematic knowledge, and his screenplay plots point to one conclusion...this is a genuine mass murdering, homicidal artist... https://78.media.tumblr.com/1d6509dbe3321eff8fbe364093494958/tumblr_nlaba18Uz81s0teago1_400.gif

"Forget it, Jake...it's Chinatown..."

EffYouJohnPodesta

Speaking of, one of the people I've posted about before has frequented a renaissance festival around the country. I imagine between that, Uber / Lyft and AirBnB, human traffickers have a lot of tools at their disposal to stay off the radar if they want to. And with AirBnB they can target the homes of vulnerable people with kids renting out rooms for extra money.

I guess any public event is a great place to scope out kids.

3141592653

GREAT post. Good work mate

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thank you!

Wayyy2High

I've also noticed that nearly universally, children hate the circus. I hated it as a child. Shudders

DeathToMasonsASAP

This is some good original research and you deserve credit for your contribution. Rare when I don't have something gruff to say in this sub anymore. I was not aware of some of this stuff, although I have a low opinion of the circus in general.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks, and I appreciate your gracious compliment!

think-

Great post, @Enigmatic_Continuum , thank you.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks!

think-

:-)

wtf_is_happening

I think you're onto something OP. Here's another instance. "Zig" aka Jack Perry, one half of Melbourne's famous television clown duo Zig and Zag, was eventually revealed to be a convicted paedophile. Don't carnivals and circuses also have a long association with the occult and the satanic?

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks, and I appreciate the info you've brought forth.

Factfinder2

Great new research angle, elegantly presented. Sickening content.

sunajAeon

I can see this happening in foreign countries, and to some extent USA, but I'm haven't enough evidence to suggest it happens in an organized fashion

argosciv

Fuck that's a long read, now I know how others feel when they see my threads xD

I've heard at least a few horror stories involving circuses and abuse/trafficking - I'm currently way too busy with something else, but, I'll put this aside for later reading :)

Matt_Helm

Wow great post excellent research it must have been much worse in the old days think about all the poor kids in the 1920's to 1950's who were taken in by circus folk and forced to be sex slaves.

lamplight

I always wondered how the Shrine Circus could give out free tickets to the circus to all elementary age students. Children under 5 are free. Hmmm.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Exactly! Check this out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqpXc84zVrQ

Creep factor is off this charts.

lamplight

Very few children actually like clowns and find them creepy.

Enigmatic_Continuum

So do I, my friend. Clowns are by far the scariest broad daylight thing I can imagine.

Quicktor

Upvoat....

beautiful post and one of the most important subjects of focus that could be brought up on this forum, period...

Remember Stromboli in the movie "Pinocchio"?...not a stereotype when you get into the subject, is it?...

Quicktor

And of course, PORTLAND OREGON is involved again...(I act locally and think eternally)

A history of Cirque de Soleil in Portland, OR: http://www.oregonlive.com/performance/index.ssf/2017/08/cirque_in_portland_a_look_back.html

The first show was in 2000 on the South Waterfront, right off the Willamette River (if I'm not mistaken, the tents were up for a decade...no joke...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Waterfront POINTS OF SIGNIFICANCE REGARDING SOUTH WATERFRONT

+It is one of the largest urban redevelopment projects in the United States. (High-rise district)

+It is connected to the Oregon Health & Science University (OHSU) main campus atop Marquam Hill by the Portland Aerial Tram, as well as roads to Interstate 5 and Oregon Route 43. Type in 'ohsu' in Wikipedia

+On OHSU's main campus is the Shriner's Hospital for Children (specializing in new technology for crippled/disabled children) and was were the Shriners developed the conception of hospitals for disabled children in 1920 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriners_Hospital_for_Children_ (Portland)

+Construction of three new OHSU buildings in the district was scheduled to begin in 2016, and the university has earmarked $500 million for the work, which was expected to take about two years. Together with the existing OHSU Center for Health & Healing, the new facilities will be part of the Knight Cancer Institute, which also has facilities outside the South Waterfront. The largest of the buildings will be for patient medical care, another will be for research and administration, and the third will provide housing for patients and their families. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knight_Cancer_Institute

The most recent show last summer was moved to the Portland Expo center on the Columbia River... https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=nOLxWusSgYnnAu-Kkzg&q=cirque+du+soleil+portland&oq=cirque+d&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0l2j0i131k1j0l7.997.2685.0.4142.9.6.0.2.2.0.345.757.0j1j1j1.3.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..4.5.831.0..0i131i46k1j46i131k1.0.bbEw385d5rQ

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Health_ %26_Science_University

now this is critical to understand...we have just unlocked a genuine child transportation center with enough information to proceed

Factfinder2

Great work!

Enigmatic_Continuum

Wow. Incredible info that ties in nicely with the circus info and all the other past research with Portland! Thanks for posting it here, and it needs to be dug into much deeper.

Quicktor

Here's another SNL angle/connection...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Nealon " On February 22, 2006, Nealon contributed a story to the New York Times about being wiretapped by Hollywood private investigator Anthony Pellicano, who has been indicted on racketeering and conspiracy charges. It was also revealed in a separate court case on February 27, 2006, that investigators working for the Ringling Brothers and Barnum & Bailey Circus may also have targeted Nealon for wiretapping. "

From the looks/sounds of it, Mr. Subliminal might be explicitly laying it on a little thick...huh? P.S. if you folks aren't familiar with Anthony Pellicano spend an entire afternoon on nothing but this individual and his plot lines/connections/ Hollywood involvement....astoundingly he's still alive but currently incarcerated in Texas (go figure, huh?...)

cc: Enigmatic-Continuum , darkknight111

Enigmatic_Continuum

WTF?!?! That is some of the strangest info I've read in a long time. Why would Ringling be wire tapping him? I do need to refresh my memory about Pelicano. Thanks for the fascinating info!

Factfinder2

Nealon is an animal rights activist. The circus is a target of animal rights activists. Ringling plays hardball.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/27/AR2006022701436.html

Enigmatic_Continuum

Rotten POSs. They have no respect for anyone let alone animals. It seems to me that they are not above causing pain to any living being as long as they get they're money. At least Ringling is gone, but the smaller circuses are still clinging to life, and they need to go out of business, too.

Factfinder2

I agree wholeheartedly. Zoos too.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thank you, and that never occurred to me! Good call.

darkknight111

Pleasure Island too.

HillBoulder

How about Guy Laliberte? I haven't heard his name come up yet is he somehow the magical exception?

Enigmatic_Continuum

I haven't heard of him. I'd welcome a link, so we can drill down onto him.

HillBoulder

Enigmatic_Continuum

Hey, my comment earlier just reminded me of all the underage gymnasts who were molested by the doctor. I wonder how many Olympians in C de S were also molested and now have become abusers...

HillBoulder

Who knows, probably all of them or most anyway. This is what's so tough about this subject, when the victim becomes the abuser. Let's say there are 264834 victims living pizzagate victims who are now pizzagate perpetrators. How could we ever really get to the bottom of this if there are so many? And then how do we deal with it even if we do? Do we hang them from a tree even though they themselves were once abused and now do the abusing? I probably would personally to break the circle but I could also respect someone's opinion who wants to go the other way and give some of them a chance because of their childhood circumstances..most probably didn't have a choice then or now.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Exactly, and it's quite the conundrum. This is the reason that I don't advocate for death. It's too quick for those who are truly evil and the ones who were abused and have become the abusers deserve to be behind bars, but may have a chance to somewhat heal and help us learn how to identify others and learn from their living nightmares.

HillBoulder

I can't really argue with you about that. They'd need to be kept out of society at least since there's no cure for that sickness.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Yes, there is no cure. There would have to be some way of making sure they never got out. Maybe turn Little St. James into a penal colony. After all, it already has cameras all over the island, so this would save the tax payers money. We'd just need to have guards on boats surrounding it, so if they did attempt an escape, it would be shoot to kill.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Oh, OK! Now I know who you're talking about. Yes, he could be involved on a particular level, but as far as I know, all of their performers are adults. But, and there's always a 'but', the performers are usually those who have been in the Olympics, which is very attractive for children, so is this circus just another angle for them to lure kids? Cirque de Soleil recently left Disney right around the time Pizzagate started gaining traction. https://disneyparks.disney.go.com/blog/2017/03/la-nouba-by-cirque-du-soleil-will-host-its-final-disney-springs-performance-this-december/

Factfinder2

Indiana blogger tells about taking children to the circus in 2007:

Cirque de Satan…I mean Soleil

"He walked around the outside of the ring…a foot in front of the audience holding the snake. He then picked a young boy from the audience and had him come to the center of the ring and hold his arms out from his side like a cross, then he placed the snake on the boys arms. The snake probably weighed as much as the boy. I was pretty horrified."

and...

"When the ringmaster announced the next act, they turned the lights way down and 2 men dressed as grim reapers came out pushing a cross. They men were completely creepy. They just stood by the cross after they pushed it into the ring. Then a girl came out in a hooded robe holding a candle and chanting. It was like being part of some Satanic ritual. We were totally freaked out. Next a man came out dressed in an old Roman centurion costume. He had the shinguards and breastplate and he had a bow and extremely sharp arrows. He shot them at the center of the cross and then the creepy chanting woman in the robe blindfolded him and spun him around. He was pointing the arrow at various people in the crowd before he finally shot it at the target. There were a lot of scary things like this for the rest of the circus. At one point when the woman in the robe was chanting and doing a strange dance, I was thinking I really don’t want the girls to see this. I don’t want them to think this is normal."

https://fredandlisa.blogspot.com/2007/06/cirque-de-satani-mean-soleil_09.html

Archive: http://archive.is/nvId8

Enigmatic_Continuum

Awesome find! I'd be feeling the same way as that author. I had no idea that Cirque de Soleil was like that. I've never been, but I've seen their mini acts on TV and they were always so cheerful and classy. No wonder they have to conceal these types of acts, which certainly seem as though they're occult rituals.

Onlio

I haven't seen a circus around in decades. Are there still such things?

Enigmatic_Continuum

Yes, indeed.

realityisinsanity

Shriners

exposethecriminals

Shriner circus - allegations of CSA and mind control, in Brice Taylor's book:

There were many other Shriner meetings; lots of them disguised "under the big top," at Shriner circuses. Circuses were a place of trauma over the years and I usually ended up getting hurt.

http://archive.is/8suC5#selection-2957.1206-2957.1394

Enigmatic_Continuum

I forgot all about this! Thanks for posting it. Truly helps add value to this thread as a whole and is the key to identifying the Shriners as directly connected to Pizzagate. Thanks again!

exposethecriminals

You're welcome!

Enigmatic_Continuum

Gosh, and here I thought I buried the main focus so well.

HillBoulder

Voat has many users who have difficulty discerning between shitposting and real, useful information or good light hearted humour. I see people nearly every day take what is an obvious joke and crank it into some deep existential human crisis mode when it was meant to be funny and light hearted.

Great post anyway.

Enigmatic_Continuum

Very true, but @realityisinsanity was able to zero in on the target I was mainly dancing around, but don't get me wrong, all of the circuses worldwide need scrutinizing, then shut down. I just don't have the evidence to out right accuse the Shriners of molestation and trafficking. I'm glad you enjoyed the thread and I appreciate your comment!

HillBoulder

Im ignorant on the Shriners by the sounds of it. It seemed like he was just calling them carnys or something lol completely missing the whole post, I guess that's not the case at all.

EricKaliberhall

Shriners "small hands, smell like cabbage". :)

Enigmatic_Continuum

Good God... shudders

HillBoulder

Well that was creepy

EricKaliberhall

Then you have the Royal court jester Jimmy Savile...

As for Savile’s relationship with the Queen, he suggested it was somewhat lighthearted. “She thinks I’m odd because odd things always seem to happen when I’m at BP,” he said last year, referring to Buckingham Palace. “One time I was at a party there and the Queen said: ‘I do not recognise this person, I bear no responsibility if anything should happen’ – the Queen likes a joke. The next minute I bump into a lady who turns out to be Barbara Bush.

https://www.express.co.uk/expressyourself/280837/Jimmy-Savile-The-Royal-court-jester

carmencita

A short description: All Shriners are Masons, but not all Masons are Shriners. Shriners International is a spin-off from Freemasonry, the oldest, largest and most widely known fraternity in the world. Freemasonry dates back hundreds of years to when stonemasons and other craftsmen gathered after work in shelter houses, or lodges.

More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shriners Website: http://www.shrinershq.org/

Royal Jesters and deMolay (Bill C is a member) are two of the highest orders and are Freemason as well

Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks for adding that, carm, and I think you'll appreciate this: http://www.illuminati-news.com/2006/1210b.htm

carmencita

Thanks! Will def take a look!

HillBoulder

Why thank you dear.

carmencita

Anything we can all do to help each other will build on our cause, to help our children!

derram

https://archive.fo/2daaZ :

Sold to the circus as children: trafficking survivors showcase their skills in Nepal | Global development | The Guardian

https://archive.fo/FHONI :

In Shriner Spending, a Blurry Line of Giving - The New York Times

https://archive.fo/Ty805 :

Arcade Circus child abuse ring: 127 charges against burlesque star and her family

https://archive.fo/w3NDO :

Big Apple Circus clown resigns over nude pics of teen


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Enigmatic_Continuum

Thanks, Derram!