I don’t think Stormy was branded. Here are some additional reasons:
1.The branding was performed by Dr. Danielle Roberts at the Albany home of Allison Mack. Branded slaves were all members of NXIVM before they were branded. Stormy was not a NXIVM member.
2.If Stormy had been a member of NXIVM, someone would have spoken of it. As a porn star, she would have attracted attention
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3.Members of NXIVM know other members. The names of NXIVM members are not secret. None of the branded slaves were kept hidden. What was hidden was their sex slave status and their being branded.
4.All of the branded women participated in regular activities of NXIVM; they attended NXIVM courses. Stormy did not join NXIVM. She did not take any NXIVM courses [called ‘intensives”] And if she did NOT join, she did NOT get branded.
5.If she had been branded, she would have been required to follow the 500-800 calorie diet. And allowed only three-4 hours of sleep per night. Stormy looks well rested and not skinny enough to be a branded slave.
6.NXIVM slaves were required to provide graphic nude photos for leader Raniere, Allison Mack and Seagram’s heiress, Clare Bronfman to use for blackmail. If a branded slave did not obey, Raniere, Mack or Bronfman, would threaten to publish the nude photos to embarrass the woman. This would not have worked with Stormy. She has 100s of nude pics already published. She could not be embarrassed by Raniere-Bronfman releasing nudes of her.
7.Stormy was not Raniere’s type. He prefers waif thin, flat chested or nearly flat chested, boyish type women. He has an aversion to voluptuous or large-breasted women.
8.Then there’s Stormy’s scar. If the pics are not photoshopped – which I suspect they are – the location where Stormy has her so-called brand is wrong. It is near her right hip. The women of NXIVM were branded on their pubic region, nearer their vaginas where it would cause the most pain. Pain was an important part of Raniere’s teachings.
8.Then there’s Stormy’s scar. If the pics are not photoshopped – which I suspect they are – the location where Stormy has her so-called brand is wrong. It is near her right hip. The women of NXIVM were branded on their pubic region, nearer their vaginas where it would cause the most pain. Pain was an important part of Raniere’s teachings.
9.Stormy shaves her pubic hair. Raniere forbid “slaves to shave.” He loved “thick bushes” and said it increased pheromones.
https://artvoice.com/2018/05/09/stormy-daniels-is-not-branded-by-nxivm-sex-slave-cult/#.WvTbFruWzmR
Woman who did Stormy's tat says One of several scar cover up pieces
https://i1.wp.com/artvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/stormy-tattoo.png?fit=990%2C464&ssl=1
▼ cutelobster
Thanks for clearing that up.
▼ new4now
it makes sense, to me anyways
and as I said, I trust Frank to know
all the links of inside NXIVM come from the writer as first source
wonder if this is for us to concentrate on harem instead of what other things they are doing
With Hillary is was all about her e-mails, but that was to keep us from looking into the Clinton Foundation
▼ 153sdsd
Look I will spell it out for the ones that are still confused, they need slaves, some go willingly thinking they are cool, some are blackmailed, NXIVM was one, but there are hundreds of others, which also brand and blackmail, stormy was on one of the others, all the branches have different gimmicks, but at the top is always connected to the usual suspects, pizzagate 10000% real, more than 100% cause you ignore the scale.
▼ new4now
theres a certain mindset these cult leaders look for
these people are not in a good place in regards to their lives
its the same as those TV preachers
In my lifetime there have been many, but never really looked into it because I thought they were nuts
now that I have been looking into things, I'm realizing what is all involved
take Charles Mason, thought it was the drugs because I didnt see him as his followers did
its the same spiel used everywhere, different extent
A preacher in his church will hold his congregation
its everywhere to one extent to the other
▼ urbanmoving
Manson was just a surrogate, the Process Church was above him
▼ genocideliberals
even if she isnt my theory is that almost all porn stars are actually grown up victims of all this shit... shit is gross
▼ new4now
you may have a point there
Prositution might follow same thinking
▼ Indigo-
End of the day pics don't lie , butter it up all u want !
▼ Are_we_sure
Well done.
this part made me laugh however
I think you might be missing a few zeros.
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Oh, I see now that all is is a quote from a Frank Parlato article. You can edit your post and use the text tool buttons to format the quoted text like below.
Everyone should read this article. https://artvoice.com/2018/05/09/stormy-daniels-is-not-branded-by-nxivm-sex-slave-cult/#.WvT5Nogvw2w
Lots of stuff going on.
Parlato dates the branding to beginning in 2015.
He has mentioned this elsewhere. He himself didn't publish anything about this until June 2017, but he did tell law enforcement about it, the FBI I believe. I know local law enforcement looked into this but they women said it was consensual which means it's not against the law. There are fraternities that do this too.
Politics and NXVIM
▼ urbanmoving
No evidence Rainere hated Killary
▼ Are_we_sure
I'm quoting someone who know Rainere personally. He is given a firsthand account of Rainere's views.
▼ urbanmoving
Fabricated, hence him chummy with her all these years and being directed by Salzman her but buddy
▼ new4now
look I just wanted to get it out there
I trust what Franks says
I took his main points and copy and pasted
some day I will learn how to do your stand out stuff, but not right now
Geez, I just made a post that Are_ we_ sure said well done
▼ Are_we_sure
the fourth button on the left in tool bar is the Quote button. Bold, Italic, Link and then Quote
Just select the text and hit the button
It basically just put a "greater than sign" in front of the text, so you can type it in as well.
▼ new4now
it is eye catching, Thanks, will have to get the hang of it
▼ Are_we_sure
Couple of other points to add.
Not only is the branding in the wrong side in the photoshopped pic. If it was a legitimate brand, it would even be visible in that picture. Her panties would cover it. They would have to be pulled down much more.
We know exactly what was going on in Stormy Daniel's career in February 2010 when she tweeted she feels like she is joining a gang or maybe a cult. This was very public and mainstream/non-porn related. We know exactly what she was talking about joining. It was well known at the time. Y'all should look this up, because it explains exactly what she meant.
We know when her surgery was. She tweeted about needing surgery starting in 2012.
We now see her tattoo artist posted in Jan 2014 that she was working on multi-part tattoo to cover that scar.
There are tweets from Stormy Daniels in 2014 to her fans explaining why she got the tattoo. A fan complained she ruined herself with that tattoo and she asks if he would prefer to see her scars.
2014 is BEFORE NXVIM started branding slaves. Which started in 2015.
Debunked. Here's an even better photo from the tattoo artist's website. https://www.facebook.com/1111tattoo/photos/a.125636324169823.20712.105395609527228/598802683519849/?type=3
▼ urbanmoving
▼ Banned4Truth
Had to give you a point there. She does have a scar and if you look closely, you can see what looks like the K at the beginning of it. Could be two truths here however. As for the timeline before the branding, can you verify it wasn't before 2015?
▼ Are_we__sure
The guy who said it began in 2015 is the guy who broke the story and has interviewed many ex members. So i think this is solid info .
▼ Indigo-
Dickhead admit
▼ darkknight111
I suspect its a mark for a different organization.
I suspect she is an asset for honeypot/brownstone operations. The mark doesn't match NXIVM, but it is similar.
▼ new4now
I can see her as a honeypot, one that's been working it for a long time
other cults that brand, now theres something I didn't think of, and I imagine it quite true
tats are another type of branding, a lot of the gangs do that
I've been relying on Franks articles as factual, I don't know who he is, or she for that matter, but he does seem to know the gang very well, he/she was a member .
as I have said, I think Keith would be too intimated to take a porn star to bed , how would he manage to get the "Wow he's God" vibe going with someone who has been there done that
wonder how many times she was by Heff's mansion
maybe she caught Trump in honeypot and they hung on to it for timing. or she could be working with him
thinking gut could be very wrong that she a white hat
▼ urbanmoving
That play was just for the suckers surrounding his cult, the inner sanctum was one where the true teachings come out, and thats the way it always worked, its the stuff he was into
▼ migratorypatterns
And here's the rebuttal:
My opinion? The timing is right for this. Remember this cult was first reported on in 2007. All the major outlets were aware of the bizarre goings on, so 2010 is soundly in the sweet spot for something to have happened. I think about NXIVM the way II do any major secret society ... Like the Freemasons. Do the lower degrees actually know there's a 33rd degree? Do they know of all the shenanigans and crimes taking place? Doubtful.
So nobody's saying that she was a member of DOS, but NXIVM? Oh, yeah ... I just have my own thoughts on her working with Trump. When I had my ''revelation'' about Q being real, Stormy was tied into my thoughts that day and I clearly saw her as in an alliance with our POTUS. Call me crazy, call me wrong, but I'm not backing off that original feeling even though every time I read about another twist or turn, I think she can't be in an alliance with him. I was going to get a post from Q and submit my speculation, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
Thanks for posting this. It's important we know what's being said.
▼ new4now
Stormy doesn't have a brand, I looked close at pics last night and figured cover for plastic surgery, she did have a kid, and for some women it really causes damaged to belly skin
a lot of people saying she was branded, which would put her in the inner circle, Just posting that isn't true
some of the points Frank Parlato made, I figured out last night, not all of them though
when it comes to NXIVM, Frank is one of the go to people who have inside knowledge
Take what you will or wont on this post
As for Stormy herself, I have to agree with you, I too believe she working with Potus, in what capacity, not sure, have ideas but that's it
▼ urbanmoving
I disagree its a possible you can make out the typical branding raised skin in a vid its not a tatoo
▼ migratorypatterns
Really? Why do you believe it? Any reasons besides a gut reaction?
▼ new4now
its gut, but timing is weird, she usually has good things to say about him, been reading a lot of her interviews
I think the thing that really kinda went with gut was when she said "Sex with Trump was “textbook generic” but “wasn’t bad” either"
“The sex was nothing crazy. He wasn’t like, chain me to the bed or anything. It was one position. I can definitely describe his junk perfectly, if I ever have to. He definitely seemed smitten after that,” Daniels said of her rendezvous with Trump
I realize he was in much better shape back then, but it so sounds like he paid her for that one and she threw in a dib, he seemed smitten
why didn't she hop the bandwagon when everyone else did?
Why isn't her lawyer Allred or Bloom?
she seems to be doing a lot better than his other accusers? where are they?
but what puts a hole in it is her lawyer
he has ties and court cases that make me think he in Obama camp
She doesn't seem the type to break a NDA
Imagine the stories she can tell, I don't think there is much in her closet as to knowing what in others
She never said a word about anyone till now, I didn't even know who she was
maybe its just hopeful thinking
doesn't matter to me either way as long as he keeps going and draining the swamp
pretty gutsy of her either way also
▼ migratorypatterns
All sound reasoning. Yeah, I got the same impression a while back that they were best buds and that the money payoff was for an entirely different reason. Then when all this crap, I flipped my thinking and figured I was wrong. But then there was that revelation about our POTUS, his role, Q, and Stormy Daniels. I know it was a revelation because I wasn't thinking that way and my thoughts again flipped when I heard/read that prophecy about him being the Gatekeeper. I realized that this mission he's on started on 9/11. And it seems to be holding true because who did he recruit? Giuliani. Giuliani was lambasting Skankles during that time, but actually had to apologize to the bitch because he claimed she wasn't in NYC on 9/11 -- which she wasn't! The press showed a pic of her marching in NYC to view the damage, but that was on 9/12. The press acknowledged that, showed the picture anyway, and then Giuliani actually had to apologize! Why? No, he has an axe to grind, and all those faux pas he's making? No, it's all planned. He knows exactly what he's saying. I really do have to find that Q post and try to put it together. And I did find someone who tweeted along the lines I'm thinking.
And her attorney wouldn't negate the speculation. It would mean that she'd successfully infiltrated the enemy camp.
▼ new4now
flip flop is a good way to explain it
maybe its suppose to be " entertaining" to throw people off
he sure has surrounded himself with people the MSM likes to write about
when you think about it, it makes excellent cover for a big Op
so much at stake, soon all will be revealed,
the sooner the better
▼ migratorypatterns
This.
Now David Seaman and Liz Crokin are going at it. Seriously, can't people on the same side take the high road once in a while. DS is hyper. LC is also hyper. Remember when she thought people were following her? She freaked out! I didn't see the tweet DS sent her [deletesville], but she goes into a rage saying Q called DS out in a post? No he didn't. Then she threatens him with her lawyers. Can't she just keep her cool and try to settle it off twitter? They've both done good work, and LC has said things that are nuts. I've said it before, but she's still seduced by PedoWood. And I'm sure she thinks they love her, but they don't, but that doesn't mean she's not trying to get things exposed.
All it shows is that we're all very different and come together because of a cause. I'd really rather have arguments than no arguments, because no arguments means a cabal wit high-ranking members ordering those under them to do or say certain things. Like the fake Women's March and Screaming at the Sky event. I mean, WTH? If someone in pizzagate suggested screaming at the sky, I would hope someone else would tell them it wasn't a good idea, but this kind of battling? Whatever.
▼ new4now
a good Think Tank will have opposing views
▼ migratorypatterns
Exactly.
Everybody sees things differently. It's a beautiful thing and doesn't need to be divisive, but then you know that. :)
▼ new4now
A good debate does the mind wonders as long as narrow mindness is not a factor
to walk a mile in others shoes is quite enlightening if you really listen
they say 4 eyes are better than 2....that works with thoughts too
some people come up with stuff I didn't think of, I appreciate it, especially when I stuck on something :)
▼ migratorypatterns
All of the above.
Yeah, plenty of times I'll post something, and KABOOM! Someone comes out of left field with something I would have never even thought to look for. And I understand, but don't agree with DS's frustrations. I was there with Q being wrong ... felt the same things. We're all ... well, maybe not all ... most of us are impatient about 5:5 videos, the promised Barry pics, and LOCKHERUP.
I guess I see progress. That's why I'm not flipping out right now. As long as there's a discernible movement towards the goal, it calms the spirit. The Cannibal Elite really do seem as if they're caving and retreating. I have no idea what's about to happen, but this is going to be massive.
Can't wait.
▼ migratorypatterns
I have no idea what pics you looked at, but she does have a brand. It's in the shape of a ''K''. There's no discrepancy. I didn't save the pic because I never do. I never save tweets or websites either and have to reconstruct everything which is fairly impossible. The pic was a screenshot from the video. Okay, I found this:
https://imgur.com/a/XAh5mMV
Here are the brands the women in the cult got:
https://imgur.com/a/ZGaIquJ
Same ''K''.
▼ Are_we_sure
She does not have a brand.
This is from her tattoo artist's website from 4 years ago.
https://www.facebook.com/1111tattoo/photos/a.125636324169823.20712.105395609527228/598802683519849/?type=3
▼ new4now
so your saying it would be a brand that Mack had added her initals to right?
not the older KR one right?
and if so, would it be a jump to suggest that it was Mack to recruit her?
▼ migratorypatterns
I haven't even gone that far. I just noticed that the brands are very similar and that the K which you refer to being on its side turns into an A with a bar across it when it is flipped in that way. That turning over on its side is exactly what was being done [in some cases] in the recent DOS brandings.
▼ new4now
isnt it odd that he even let her put her initals with his on the brand?
▼ migratorypatterns
It is. But he has an ''A''. ''M'' could be for Mason. You never know what he was really thinking.
They're both dumps.
▼ new4now
everyday I realize just how big the Masons are, and where they all are
scary
▼ migratorypatterns
It's true. It's why England has the problems they do. There was even a TV program -- a series that was on. It was an English detective story and even the show's lead character mentioned how the Masons had infiltrated the police force. I was like, "What?" So it's not like they don't know.
▼ new4now
and I think those masonic police here are the ones making the papers that starts protests
then you have the masonic judges, who give passes out to members and hang all others
dirty and corrupt from top to bottom
▼ migratorypatterns
Yes, they all need to be drained.
Huge undertaking ... huge.
▼ Diggernicks
https://i.imgur.com/da9NqkQ.jpg
▼ new4now
thats funny :)
I need one of those ...haha
▼ realityisinsanity
It could be another sex slave cult.
▼ new4now
she got a tummy tuck
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dc21C7wVQAAeTQn.jpg
▼ migratorypatterns
It's not a tummy tuck according to the guest poster who viewed the video. This branding is to the side. In the same spot the other women had it done. Tummy tuck incisions are centered -- not off to the side. How else would they tuck the stomach evenly?
From a cosmetic surgery website:
https://imgur.com/a/S6bBnoZ
He's right. The incision is not even close. And the incision is never in the shape of a K. It doesn't make any sense.
▼ urbanmoving
Very Correct
▼ new4now
and the "brand" on Stormy doesn't stand up to make a K , its turned , instead of this, I ,on the K, its this, -, like it fell over
if its something other, I'm fine with that, but its not a NXIVM brand
different tuck scars
https://media3.picsearch.com/is?SLyJHuypRJnYoQYvu6deJV6GTyD2a-mkw_nfKeqrRtY&height=204
https://media5.picsearch.com/is?GoO8AG7zyt5fTvEobczKgRMIQLjn5QnKeikTiP6NYAk&height=195
▼ migratorypatterns
Okay, for whatever reason you're being ridiculous. Those are the exact same incisions. A clean incision across the lower abodomen, pubic region so the entire stomach can be pulled down. They don't make a ''K'' in one side of the abdomen because it wouldn't allow a uniform pull down of the stomach.
Believe what you wish. I'm outta here, but I do think it's an important subject so thank you for taking it on. :)
▼ new4now
I agree, to each his own
▼ migratorypatterns
.... :) ....
▼ Are_we_sure
She mentioned emergency surgery and made many tweets about surgery and her scar
@StormyDaniels That's your opinion but it is MY body. The tat is to cover a scar and make me feel better.
@StormyDaniels 28 Aug 2013 Want very vibrant colorful/realistic flowers and must be familiar with covering a scar. Location doesn't matter. I will travel
@StormyDaniels it is not hate at all, just really disappointed. You are such a beautiful lady, I just hated to see that on you
@StormyDaniels Guess you'd have been happier w/the terrible scar from my emergency surgery instead of the pretty&meaningful tattoo covering it?
▼ new4now
maybe surgery was laparoscopic surgery
they make nice little unusual scars
nothing wrong with her getting the surgery or tats
her lively hood is based on it, probably claimed tat on taxes as work related, same as the Breast job
never even knew she existed till now
will have to see how it all ends
▼ Vindicator
I think the location of that scar is in about the right area for an appendectomy. ?
▼ new4now
good one, didn't think of that
https://media2.picsearch.com/is?AvqxEdXYccoAnU4fW6hcaSa9T1ai13NaxsOGXeyUIzE&height=126
she said it was a minor surgery, hmmm could be a minor one to her
▼ Vindicator
She said it was an "emergency surgery". And it's in the right spot for a laparoscopic removal.
▼ new4now
sounds good
i have a few lapar scars, each one is different lol
hmm then she should have at least one more in the same area
one for lights, camera, surgery
although camera and surgery can be same
she might have gotten a bit of a pooch from having baby and stretch marks
I like you thought, it covers it well
▼ Madwack
I don't think so......
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=appendectomy+scar&t=ffab&atb=v85-2&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Ffarm4.static.flickr.com%2F3022%2F3003373739_67886a00fe_b.jpg
▼ Are_we__sure
as I mentioned before this all just what psychologists call "availability bias" we overestimate the risk of something or the probability of something if we can recall them easily. NXVIM and Stormy are in the news so it just took someone a little photo-shopping to get a whole lot of people believing in something.
It's like we think about dying by being killed by a terrorist, but in terms of actual dangers more Americans die from falling out of bed or being accidentally shot by a child.
If you stepped back to think about this it's highly, highly unlikely that Stormy Daniels had anything to do with NXVIM. Simply because most Amercians had nothing to do with NXVIM. Secondly, she doesn't seem to live any place that NXVIM is active. Thirdly, no one mentioned her in connection with group in any context whatsoever at all. The evidence came completely out of left field. (Because we are going to find that brand photo was photoshopped and is a fraud.)
Also I just don't think porn stars are the type of folks who wind up in a sex cult. I think it appeals to uptight women from more repressive backgrounds, then find themselves in an environment where they can lose their inhibitions...You don't need to brainwash a porn star to have sex. And as you and Frank Parlato point out, nude photos of them make pretty ineffective blackmail material for that reason.
▼ Shizy
Psychologists have a lot of names for people like you
▼ new4now
a woman who does porn doesn't have an image problem
she doesn't have sex challenges
she just doesn't fit with NXIVM inner harem
People can make their own minds up, but for me this Stormy brand is a done deal
▼ Are_we__sure
Yeah, I complete agree with this. Also if white collar folks were signing up for executive performance seminars, would they feel better or worse about the company giving the seminars, if they knew that company was associated with the porn world? Would that make them more likely or less likely to buy more classes? Would that raise suspicions in the eyes of their customers/recruits?
To me It's a culture clash.