Born2Resist

In my youth (17-18) I used to visit Browns nightclub in London, I listened to this interview https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=EKB6NCrePLQ Brian Harvey of E17 talks about secret Red rooms there where he saw children and he thinks that's why 'they' have been out for him ever since. The club was busted for selling drugs out of the toilets years ago and closed down, I felt so sick listening as I frequented a lot of these celebrity hangout clubs back in the day and there was always something seedy about them, JetBlack was another one, Mayfair club, and 10 rooms also. It dawned on me that it was probably a perfect cover for their disgusting behaviours as well as offering ample opportunities for cctv/blackmail. Drugs were openly available in all the VIP rooms at these places, so God knows what else was going on behind the velvet curtains. I looked into the owners of Browns a little bit and they own a LOT of chauffeur and courier companies - maybe for trafficking kids or drugs :(

new4now

I read something about a place called black that was a place like Groucho

might have to go back and look at that

Thanks

Born2Resist

It was JetBlack in Holborn, used to open at 3am and close at God knows what time (I'd usually leave by 10am and it was still going) was full of modelling/music industry people and old rich guys who looked completely out of place in suits, lots of escorts/porn stars & drugs...there was few little corridors with doors that lead to the club next door...can't remember the name of it, but once when we went through there and ordered a drink at the bar the barman offered us a big pile of white powder that he had...we respectfully declined...will try and remember the name of it...found it -Den & Centro, West Central street London - that was the main club name, Jetblack was the private members afterparty bit. (it was previously called The End)

new4now

How Soho House, Blacks and the Groucho are competing to rule Soho's Dean Street

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/how-soho-house-blacks-and-the-groucho-are-competing-to-rule-sohos-dean-street-a3416311.html

I think after Groucho got busted, things changed

was going to look up these other places

will look up the club you mentioned, Thanks

Born2Resist

Oh yes - Blacks in Soho, never went there but I know it's one of the original 'home away from home' members clubs, whatever that means... Yes, I think they must've tightened up a lot to hide what goes on in these places, seems they were quite brazen with it back then...

millennial_vulcan

Did you know the Groucho Club long term manager Bernie Katz died a very sudden and mysterious death at the very young age of 49 in October of last year? With A List British celebrities crying all over instagram about it?

JUST A COINKDOINK Im sure! Wonder what secrets the poor schmuck took to the grave with him....?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4910434/Groucho-Club-manager-Bernie-Katz-s-funeral.html

@Vindicator @Carmencita @Factfinder2 @think-

Factfinder2

Nice find.

From GQ: http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article/bernie-katz-king-of-soho

"Having been at the club for over 20 years, looking after everyone from Jaime Winstone and Sienna Miller to Noel Gallagher and Damien Hirst, he knew all the secrets of the A-listers that called the place home - and earned a fearsome reputation as a fixer. In 2015, we featured him as one of the 100 Most Connected Men in Britain..."

I wouldn't be surprised if he's not really dead.

millennial_vulcan

come see the thread on Megs Sparkles. References to Soho House. Aren't Groucho House + Soho House near each other in the Middle of London? My fashion friend from London has been to Soho House but not Groucho but Groucho is more exclusive and harder to get in I think? @think- Anyone?

millennial_vulcan

I think its HIGHLY RELEVANT. Post if you find anything after digging!

I wonder if he started running his mouth a little too much about Groucho ghosts ?

new4now

hmmmm

did you know at one point Matthew Freud was an owner?

link is at home sorry

been looking this place up on and off

interesting stuff

Vindicator

N4N, I think this ought to have a Potential Lead flair. :-)

Factfinder2

The proposed club in NY is in the NOHO Manhattan neighborhood. Their application has met some resistance from residents of the area based on increased noise and traffic. There's no indication in this article that the concerned residents have been made aware of the prior pedophilia accusations:

http://www.nohomanhattan.org/wordpress/2018/03/11/a-groucho-club-for-noho/

new4now

was thinking the forum members seperate group within the group

maybe not

a lot of names tied into this group

was Groucho Marx a pervert?

wanted to look more into this

they probaly laid low a bit in London and started back up

dont think neighbors complaints is going to stop it

grease some palms, invites, and they are in buisness

too bad someone couldnt put up flyers,

secret mission, undercover, lol

wonder how that would go over?

I bet a lot of deals go down in that place

would like to see if they get the ok

Factfinder2

Yes, a separate group within the forum no doubt. Great idea to investigate Marx's sexual proclivities. Fantastic idea to put up flyers. It would need to happen now. The article said the final decision from the liquor authority would happen June 1st.

I think the whole thing with the rooms available and cameras reads like a brownstone operation that started in the 80s, looking for compromisable new talent in the publishing, media, entertainment and arts industries.

new4now

agree on the honeypot

I believe thats what they were doing in London until things got hot, higher up said pack it up

Google cleaned up

Factfinder2

Yup.