WalnutSauceGoat

You’re amazing.

migratorypatterns

Hey, thanks.

I think it's important to keep track of these things and call things out.

KnightsofHubris

I don't think the Open Secret twitter account is Amy Berg. It's most likely the film's producer.

Berg and the producer were not on good terms by the end of the movie and a lawsuit was involved.

migratorypatterns

Thanks for this info.

I don't know if it's true, but that would explain things. However, from this tweet:

https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1004900858109325313

We’re just accredited filmmakers. Who exposed powerful Hollywood child molesters.

Would a producer describe themselves as ''we're filmmakers''?!!! That was Amy Berg. Plus there was another tweet where she called out VOP for accepting donations of gas, etc. Whoever is running the account answered again that ''we're filmmakers'', then warned people to be careful of others asking for donations. Personally, if someone is doing something that is taking up most of their day, it is a profession. I don't know what the point or obsession is with calling people out for needing money.

KnightsofHubris

Producers are absolutely filmmakers. Film do not get made without them. They hired Amy Berg for this project I believe. The project existed before Amy Berg got involved is the history of this, I believe.

Checking yes, that is true.....There are two producers on the film Gabe Hoffman and Matthew Valentinas. They came up with the idea for the documentary.

migratorypatterns

Oh, fabulous! Just found this:

https://twitter.com/AnOpenSecret/status/1001216298662195200

This account is run by the film's Producers, one of whom is its sole funder & owner.

An Open Secret added, World_of_Stu @stu_the @AnOpenSecret is this account directly linked to the film or just a fan set up posting news reports?

Fantastic! So it's run by Hoffman and Valentinas. It makes me feel much better calling them out because they obviously deserve it. I'll take her name out of the OP.

Thanks!

think-

OpenSecret didn't struck me as being a shill before.

What is odd though is that they are critical of the VOP guy, but support Craig Sawyer, who is fishy imo.

Also, did the VOP spokesperson ever claim he was a vet?

They seem to accept people who want to join who aren't vets.

migratorypatterns

Me, neither. I thought they were totally legit. Never crossed my mind that they weren't.

What is odd though is that they are critical of the VOP guy, but support Craig Sawyer, who is fishy imo.

Absolutely. Sawyer is someone who got on my radar at the beginning and never got off it. Then there's him being tight with AJ.

Also, did the VOP spokesperson ever claim he was a vet?

Not to my knowledge. In fact, in the NBC news article it clearly states that he is not a vet so I'm not sure where that's coming from or why it's said. But just concidentally, and there are no coincidences, I read the best quote yesterday. It's from Julian Assange about disinformation:

https://twitter.com/AnonScan/status/1003933439979073537

Pamela Anderson: "Once I asked my friend Julian #Assange how to recognize lies and disinformation in the media. He said something along the lines of disinformation being a response to a question that nobody has asked. It is too perfect ..." #NoExpulsion https://www.pamelaandersonfoundation.org/news/2018/6/5/how-to-recognize-lies

That's what this seems like. The Stormy Daniels debunking and now VOP... and especially the what An Open Secret thinks of Michael Lewis Arthur Meyer. Did anyone ask them what they thought of Daniels? Of VOP? Or Meyer? And yet there is there opinion spewed that they think he's claiming to be a vet with no proof offered. Then they very nicely call everyone curious about the find in Tucson tin foil hatters? I don't recall asking for their goddamn opinion ... nor do I care.

migratorypatterns

Fabulous!

With all the pushback, now I know they're shills!

I'm going to keep calling you out! Ha!

ESOTERICshade

With all the pushback, now I know they're shills!

You have never been wrong a day in your life, according to you, which is why you keep making such shitty posts. You don't learn anything from your mistakes, because of course, you never make any.

719380264

OP is worse than a disinfo shill and worse than the CPP shooter.

She is a hysterical woman who stated that Donald Trump is literally a prophet sent by God to defend us. Not just stated offhandedly, but made an entire post about it with links and evidence, LMAO.

Thanks for giving them ammo with your Q-pidity, retard. I see theyre putting it to good use.

ESOTERICshade

OPEN SECRET is a SHILL and DISINFO SPECIALIST:

OMG. SOMEBODY IS WRONG ON THE INTERNET. ITS DRAMA TIME!


Is it still possible in this world for people to be confused about the facts, or get the facts wrong, without being called a shill and a disinfo agent?


Your posts are always unnecessarily overly dramatic. For fucks sake.


I have heard all these versions of the story too and I am still not convinced that I know the full truth.


Yup, Little Ms. Amy Berg who didn't really include anything in that film of hers that wasn't already known.

And this is just bullshit. Ma and Pa average American didn't know about it and for the most part still don't know.

derram

https://archive.fo/BnsN1 :

An Open Secret on Twitter: "Because people who use #StolenValor & aren’t veterans Tend to lie about other things. They told Sawyer there were actual kids there & he hurried down - lie They say LEO never came - lie Tucson PD went May 29, did a full site rundown, even brought in cadaver dogs.… t.co/vw1xLepQkI"

https://archive.fo/Qhr15 :

An Open Secret on Twitter: "We haven’t trashed Craig Craig is not part of Veterans on Patrol However the head of VOP is a #StolenValor liar Watch the first couple minutes of Craig’s interview with Hagmann Craig was lied to, told there were actual kids there - and sprinted down to the site… t.co/x3oIPlHKn1"

https://archive.fo/5brf9 :

An Open Secret on Twitter: "Tuscon PD went to the site promptly May 29 and did an investigation. They even brought out a cadaver dog. They are on record with this in a reputable local newspaper & elsewhere. t.co/0iAv5F06Xp… t.co/aKexn3nyyN"

https://archive.fo/j5qud :

Arizona veterans group finds homeless camp — and fuels a new 'pizzagate'-style conspiracy

https://archive.fo/XDESH :

An Open Secret ( @AnOpenSecret ) | Twitter

https://archive.fo/ZFo8k :

An Open Secret on Twitter: "People who make baseless claims Without doing a shred of their own research outside visiting their own echo chamber of so-called “news sites” they regularly visit & Ignore confirmed facts everywhere else Are “tinfoil hats”. Unfollow us if you want… t.co/lid4vmVh46"

https://archive.fo/whzaN :

Jack Posobiec🇺🇸 on Twitter: "Have looked into this and can report there is no hard evidence this site in Tucson was used for child trafficking, the same as I reported there was no evidence for Comet Pizza. Appears to be another example of mass hysteria"


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migratorypatterns

Hey, thanks, derram!!!