the cash payment book & blue print map sound promising & awful. Glad to hear they're still adamant about retired & active duty leo & military on safety patrol. His story about invitations to public & why & how they're conducting patrols hasn't changed...just sayin' he seems a little calmer in this video, but this is the same plan / story told every time I've seen the update videos. Until I can drive out won't know for sure but am liking the consistency. So RAD!!!! the homeless on lookout. Love this so much. Thanks for the good word! This is super encouraging. wonder / hoping operation backyard brawl has some sort of pigeon hunting effect too. Maybe the career runners - traffickers using these paths will scatter- off pattern, do something stupid and get caught in the act.

Fucking awesome!!!!

It's unbelievable that these assholes ARE SELLING KIDS OUT!!!

This is going in the OP. Thanks. I sincerely appreciate it.

I’ve always had a weird feeling about him.

Unfortunately, it's true. But here's the thing, in a group that depends on loyalty, like the Navy Seals ... or any militaristic body that is expected to express loyalty not only to the members of that group, but to their country ... in succumbing to pressure ... they betray and are a traitor to the group that they swore an oath to. Now the thing is, some of these individuals have already sworn an oath to another group that they believe has a higher importance, but it doesn't matter. In infiltrating a group that that individual had no intention of being loyal to, they betrayed every single individual in that group and their country.

Now we can't say that applies to everyone. Some just sell out for money or because of being blackmailed. Or to keep a loved one safe. It's very difficult to discern motivation because while someone does out themselves sometimes, that underlying reason is their secret. I keep thinking if these individuals would have made the same choices if they knew they would be found out and have to face justice. How will they view this misguided ''loyalty'' then? Will they want mercy when they have showed none? Will they want fairness when they have turned their backs on the weakest in our society -- the children?

As always, thanks for your comment and reply.

Thanks for the support.

Sawyer is still tweeting up a storm trying to defend what he did, but there is no defense.

Absolutely. No freakin' money. None.

He helped humiliate and betray men who, according to Sawyer, didn't even ask for his help! Sawyer said he was notified of the find by a third-party and not by VOP.

Yeah, Liz ... I'm just puttin' it out there. I've seen her do a few very shaky things, but again, we're not a cult. People don't have to think one thing. Diversity of thought shouldn't mean that someone is a shill EXCEPT when it actually protects those who are doing harm. Like with Lady Gaga and other celebs. Crokin LOVES these guys! LOVES! I've never seen anything like it. There was something about Chelsea Handler, too ... I think three actress put on a surprise comedic intervention -- emphasis on comedic. Well, Crokin starts going off on how they're serious and that Handler might listen if we pray and she can change because she's really nice and yada yada yada. Then she starts yapping about how wonderful Jennifer Annistan and, Sandra Bullock are and I'm like WTF? Anniston and Bullock are two whores from hell and Bullock likes to get her Nazi on while having shit smeared under her nose [according to her ex-husband] and then there's the two kids she adopted from New Orleans who are probably acting like her personal blood banks and Crokin is going off on how NICE she is? Really? It was at that moment that I realized this bitch was seduced by Hollywood. Now I'm starting to think it's more, but will hold off until I get more proof.

Thanks so much for this. Appreciate the support.

Yes, when you put it like that: OBVIOUS! Timing should always be taken into account because it is a big tell.

Definitely, try to include facts and documentation. It's what the videos are for. People can look and hear Sawyer's words coming out of his mouth. I don't know any kind of harder evidence you can get.

Anyways, thanks for great analytical job and an UppadaVoat for you!

Thanks for this!

Seems the mods think this is SPECULATIVE!

I know! I've never gotten over that.

NEVER!

I had almost forgotten that Alex Jones has been supporting Sawyer....

I believe @Vindicator . ''She's'' having an off day ... now showing video of the person speaking is not proof, it's speculation ...

Ha ahahahahhahaha!!!! Too funny!

We don't have many people on our side willing to call out these motherfuckers. We need all the help we can get to wake the masses up.

...but I wonder whether it has to be a limited hangout/controlled opposition guy. That's what Sawyer is imo.

Thanks.

I love pushback. Makes me know I'm on the right track.

Its hard to keep up with all the new incoming information and people involved with this pedo shit. Threads like this one make it even harder when someone claims "CONFIRMED", but really hasn't confirmed anything, but their bias.

Situations may look one way, but that doesn't mean the guy is a CONFIRMED disinfo agent aiding the PEDOs. Its almost as if everyone in the spot light is a shill for the pedos.

The people in the spot light are doing more for the movement than this poster and threads like them. A bunch of outsiders, looking in, thinking they know it all, with mostly just personal opinions and feelings on situations that COULD be shady, but its not CONFIRMED.

This thread is more disinfo than Craig Sawyer.

Thank you Vindicator.

either way, whether its trafficking or homeless camp, Children are in danger, they have no home

This to me, is the importance of the camp

This. Thank you.

The reason for multiple posts is not piling on, it's so information doesn't get lost. Since Voat, in all its infinite wisdom, disallows changing headlines, if you discover something that you would have put into the headline, you have no choice but to bury the information or start a new post.

I don't see anything wrong with crowdsourced investigatioin. Multiple people coming at things at different angles is good. NXIVM had a kabillion post and that rabbit hole is yet to be scratched. And look at Kate Spade and Boudain, people aren't supposed to post about that? Hell, no!

You have your style, I have mine, others have theirs.

Hell, yes, if you have a valid point, post the damned thing! You never know what you'll trigger and where another member can take it in uncovering the truth.

Thanks for the comment.

No one truely knows what the actual hell is going in any one particular situation in this subject which is unraveling from a very tangled web of a myriad of problems for us.

Cut the holier-than-thou BS. If we weren't supposed to be raging, then God wouldn't have destroyed the world except for one boat, would He? He hates evil and so do I.

There's nothing to understand. No one is talking about the situation in Tucson, we're talking about AN EXPERT who stuck his nose into a situation HE knew nothing about because a THIRD PARTY contact him and LIED about children being on the site in question. He then gave filmed a video reporting on his findings on 5/29 and gave an interview on 6/4 in which he gave a detailed account of evidence he saw, and based on evidence, he states that he called the FBI TO INVESTIGATE! Now, on 6/8, he REVERSE EVERYTHING HE SAID AND SAYS THERE'S NO EVIDENCE.

THAT'S what this post is about. If it's not warm and cuddly, I don't fucking care! You be the one to cry over pedos being sent to jail for being involved in molestation/rape. You be the one to cry over monsters who tried to destroy our country. That's not me so STFU and stop trying to control how people act.

THAT is what is really not helping.

Cemex owns over 300,000 acres of the Sierra del Carmen (AKA Maderas del Carmen) in Mexico. This land is directly adjacent to a massive amount of acreage that they own in the Big Bend, Texas area. It flows seamlessly. They literally own their very own border crossing.

OBL died back in 2001. That hoax got blown up on the ground literally by foreign media

It is. As for him being part of the bin Laden team, I have no idea, but you are right. Huge red flag. You know what else is a red flag? They keep complaining that VOP trespassed on private property, but if that is private property, it's why the police not getting involved makes no sense. A company's private property is searched and kept clean. If it was a common everyday citizen's propety, maybe yes, maybe no, but a corporation? Come on! They'd be cleaning that out and putting some type of monitoring on it which they didn't do because there's nothing there, right?

Right. wink wink.

Thanks for the comments. Appreciate the support. Sawyer sold those guys out and that ain't right.

I thank VOP for what they're doing and anyone else that really wants to clean up this swamp.

That press release reads like he's been threatened with legal action.

Let's not enable him by creating false scenarios. He is absolutely on firm ground for stating an opinion. In other words, in his opinion, the evidence looked like this. There's no grounds for lawsuits or arrests.

But I'm glad you got the important point. Can't believe he deleted that video. Just can't.

He proved his case, read it. Listen, scrubbed first interview, "3rd party", gas station, ignoring the facts on the ground, lying saying there was an investigation done let me show you what forensics"and investigation looks like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDbs-L4IDo&t=10s .

According to all the locals VOP and hundreds of witnesses none of that shit was done NOTHING zero nada. On my channel I'ce spoke to some, go read the FB feed, and talk to the locals. they did shit cept fake dog sniff one area(if that) and bulldoze. Why aren't you researching ground level stuff instead of using "Mockingbird" crap?

I'm still not sure what Craig Sawyer is and your sensational headline proves nothing. He may be disinfo but this poster is not helping the discovery process. I am asking the mods to start holding this poster accountable for the sensationalistic claims she makes. She has proved none of the things in her headline. I am asking that this thread be flaired.

My thoughts exactly. One has got to prove one's points properly. This post reeks of an inconsistent narrative, trying to derail the investigation.

What we do know though, comming from VOP is that Sawyer has been hired to protect various VIPs. Including HRC. VOP is however fully aware of this and talks a bit about it in one of the latest videos.

Sawyer didn't stumble into shit he just showed up unwanted

It was not an active investigation. An active investigation would be monitoring that site.

No, there's no way to excuse what Sawyer did. And when did a newspaper get the date of publication wrong? Once in a century? It doesn't look good ... it looks sloppy and an expert isn't sloppy. He blatantly contradicted himself ... and that third party. Why would a third-party involve him in that? The only third-party I can think of is AJ. Did Alex freakin' Jones send him down there to screw things up?

Thanks for the reply and it's great you know which tweet I'm referring to.

She was defending Sawyer to ANOPENSECRET, but then they shocked me by saying that they hadn't been referring to Sawyer in the series of tweets aimed at calling Tucson a hoax and saying VOP were a bunch of fame-seeking clowns.

Either it was a deliberate distraction from some trafficking operation that took place somewhere else at the same time.

And/or it has been meant to discredit any accusations that child trafficking takes place in the Tucson area.

Either way, the only solution is imo to continue looking at the hard facts about child trafficking across the border.

Very good.

Especially getting Sawyer involved in the Tucson find. Question is who was the third-party? I already guessed above in the replies, but will state it again. AJ might be the one that told Sawyer about the find.

And here I was standing up for this guy a long time ago; although I did have some warning bells in the back of my head. Namely; the over abundant twitter reporting, the quest for donations (this is always a strong indicator), the passive action (creating a movie).

But I kept faith regardless of these warning bells. So now I get to read he supports Rothschild, along with the other findings. Well, that seals the deal. Controlled opposition indeed then.

By the way; as far as my personal experiences, the fight is not over. Like I've said, I've been laying low and have not been able to update you all very well. This has to do with the fact that I've not been able to contextually tack on to posts given the rules of this forum.

But yes, my personal encounters with satanic minded Zionists and their lakeys continues, even at my new, current job. Already a hint: one thought of me as a "scrawny bite". They are on to me and are trying to plan, in their jargon, a "confiscation mission".

In the meantime I've been able, through input of their synthetic telepathic network they use amongst themselves, the mental profile of their Luciferas, a rank within their culture belonging to sectarian assassin women with a purpose. The purpose being the confiscation of the blood of their victims. I may or may not tell about this. How they work, how they operate and what is the procedure they employ.

A big hint here: It involves the removal of their cervixes. The HPV and cervix cancer is in part a cover-up to make it acceptable and believable that some women want their cervix removed.

John Jacob Jingleheimer Michael Meyers Lucas Arthur Smith said the same thing about the mayor.

My first thought is, why no kids on dirt bikes were on this? Too busy playing video games, too hot out, no computer access? Tuscon still has a couple thousand people living there, right? Must be there is an information blackout there. Sawyer was calling for people to bring their RVs and camp in the desert with no water or electricity, and it would be perfectly legal. He was also walking through the desert in the hottest part of the day (against recommendations of desert survival booklets I have read).

Giving you an UppdaVoat for being #woke. Woke people should be rewarded.

Yeah, the defense of Rothschild was mindblowing! I mean, WTH?!!!

Something big is going on down there.

Uppadavoat for you!

Will put this link in the OP!

Thanks for being #woke.

And yet, mods have "sticky"ed a post stating "child trafficking camp detected". Makes me question this whole site.

Craig Sawyer: [1] completely contradicted his statements made on the 6/4/2018 Hagmann video; [2] has taken down his first video where he stated he was called in by a THIRD PARTY and in the new video omits this fact and makes it sound as if VOP lied to him; [3] gives detailed compelling statements as to the evidence found at Tucson on the 6/4 video. He poses as an evidence expert and states that he CALLED THE FBI on the STRENGTH OF THAT EVIDENCE FOUND AT THE TUCSON SITE, but now says NOTHING WAS THERE!

I gotta say, that vop guy is a bit of a fucking idiot. If he did find a skull, he moved that shit around. You can't fuck with a crime scene like that. Dude was talking about evidence he had collected and buried nearby for safe keeping. The Retard also keeps saying he found 30 pairs of shoes but won't show any photographic or video evidence of any of them.
I got really excited for this discovery but the more I read about it, the more fucked up this guy seems to be.

Your lies about Meyer have been discredited he does not embelish there is no evidence of that and Jeff Kagan and meany other destroy that false claim concerning the "Bundy" events" you speak off, in fact Meyer was not an instigator thats bullshit, and totally discredited. Those spergy fed idiots tried smearing him they failed. You are disgusting he has the full support of his ccrew, locals, CMA, and 3%

• http://archive.is/swmXB https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craig_Sawyer "After his military career, Sawyer has run specialized teams to provide security to politicians and dignitaries including Hillary Clinton, John McCain, Donald Rumsfeld, and John Negroponte http://imgur.com/a/GyKU1

• He is denying this and attacking people with childish retorts on his Twitter account https://twitter.com/CraigRSawyer/status/1004694531403599873

• He is funded and was heavily promoted by Alex Jones who is tight with Stratfor/CIA https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1618655 https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/16kn5m/alex_jones_blows_his_cover_as_paid_agent_please/

• He is an actor http://www.imdb.com/name/nm4025484/ who was broke a few years ago https://www.tucsonlocalmedia.com/news/oro_valley/article_3cf6f51c-11f0-11e4-a9f4-0019bb2963f4.html

“I’ve passed up opportunities to make a lot of money and sell out,” he said. “I don’t have a lot of money, and my family has stuck by me through thick and thin – and mostly thin – and so I’m always going to choose a lifestyle that I want my family around.”

• He has purportedly raised a lot of money for this documentary project, but I am having trouble finding anything concrete about this online. Help?

• This story is being celebrated by mainstream tabloid media http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5808333/Veterans-group-uncovers-child-sex-trafficking-camp-hidden-bunker-stuffed-toys.html

• He cares about putting an end to child trafficking yet has not mentioned the WalMart discovery https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2576365 on his Twitter, that I can tell anyway. Also he does not show normal emotion or cues that he believes what he is saying when talking about the "rape trees", etc in the AZ case (my personal opinion).

• He blocks people just for questioning how the money he has raised is being spent, and calls them pedophiles. He is not helpful nor transparent ,which is unlike any other pizzagate researcher this youtuber has come across: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3zVw5z0yLE

• https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1760396/8623015

Fred Burton of (((CIA))) Stratfor wants info on someone named "CHEESE"...who is a friend of Craig Sawyer;

Craig Sawyer wrote back to me about Cheese:

"Cheese was a friend of mine. We were on the same team at DEV together and he came to visit me in Atlantic City when we were both working for the Air Marshal Service together in the early days just after 9/11."

https://search.wikileaks.org/gifiles/emailid/383700

http://archive.is/j0oEy

Fred Burton wants a headcount for "Pizza"...but he only has one slice and needs to know how thinly to slice it...

https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/18/18817_re-headcount-for-pizza-.html

It's why I posted that first submission. You want to know the HUGE mistake AN OPEN SECRET made? Answer:

THEY DIDN'T ATTACK SAWYER!!!

No, they viciously and unfairly attacked VOP, but bowed to Sawyer. That was a HUGE tell! If they had played the game being run correctly, they would have called out Sawyer, too. Said he was part of the problem. Then when Sawyer released the June 8th video, they could have apologized and said they retracted what they said about Sawyer and now think he's okay.

The second strategic mistake they made was in focusing on Sawyer being misled by the call saying there were children on the site. They defended Sawyer getting involved on the basis of this call. But they used to call to INVALIDATE VOP!!! This even though Sawyer put out a video ... two videos if you count Hagmann's, that a THIRD PARTY notified him!!! Makes a huge difference, no? Guess Sawman screwed up in revealing thart part! He takes down his video where he tells this, but Hagmann's is still up there, so see/hear for yourselves while you can!

Nope. Not gonna work, shills! Then there's the way Sawyer speaks. He's always out-of-breath and nervous as hell. It's not the body posturing/signals that a confident leader gives off. It's more like he's lying. I gave him a pass about being nervous in the beginning, but I mean, come on! He's been doing this for months and he still can't control his breathing? And this is a guy that was trained in tactical warfare? YIKES!

Luckily, they don't know what we know and that is that pizzagate is an ORGANIC movement ... always has been. We think for ourselves and don't have a goddamned leader. No one is taking this movement over. Some still distrust our POTUS and that's fine. Then there's the Q split. That's fine also. Members thinking for themselves makes us very very hard to control. And let me emphasize that it was not the finding that the Tucson site wasn't a child trafficking site that ticked me off. It was the carefully constructed narrative to BURY what was there. To me it's a red flag that there IS something there and that the Tucson site is the tip of the iceberg.

As always, thanks, derram!