JackBlack1

According to Q, Trump is God's messenger sent down to earth to fight child trafficking and to take down the Illuminati. Everything Q says is bullshit.

Blacksmith21

Have a downvoat, if for no other reason, because you are dimwitted. Come back when you can cite your statement.

srayzie

I’ve always had a weird feeling about Craig Sawyer. Like he could be another Jerome Corsi, but for Pizzagate. Especially since Infowars is going in the same direction. I finally opened my eyes when it comes to Alex Jones.

Blacksmith21

Weird feelings are good. Call it "Spidey senses". Always trust them.

WeirdlyEerie

This independent journalist is on scene. He is posting his day with Lewis Arthur and VOP. This is a teaser showing the fully developed buildings in the wilderness with a guard tower, brightly painted kids room, solar panels, electronics room full of cds. Look at his channel to see more. https://youtu.be/ru5Uv6U-0WA

ponyfriend

It is also worth noting that after Spirit Cooking broke the shills on 4chan (mostly shareblue at this time) all went quiet and the rumor was they were given orders to go silent and await instructions. About 3-4 day later the pizzagate started.

Spirit Cooking actually got some people to not vote for Hillary. It was obvious that they support this degenerate artist. With Pizzagate, I don't know if any voters were actually converted.

Of course there are more important things than elections but in this case I do think Pizzagate was a way to neutralize/distract from Spirit Cooking and also it serves as kind of an "acid-test" like, XYZ person, do you believe Pizzagate is real or not? That is a way to telling whether or not someone buys into MSM.

ponyfriend

I wrote this elsewhere but nobody seemed to care... IMO Pizzagate was pushed by ShareBlue and other groups as a way to deflect/distract/discredit Spirit Cooking, which was plenty gross and easy to confirm, but not as shocking or upsetting as pedophilia.

I'm not saying pedophilia doesn't exist and all the evidence around comet ping pong paints a really gross picture. I don't know how much of it was staged and how much of it (Like JA's instagram pictures). You can't easily stage that sort of thing so my guess is that Brock who runs ShareBlue who is JA's ex boyfriend knew that JA had a "pedo" sense of humor (and may or may not be one, I dunno) and thus he was like "okay great, I'm going to pick him to be the target because I know he's smart enough to not have any real evidence"

Meanwhile the public sees it as the "children trapped in a pizza basement" narrative.

urbanmoving

You are totally wrong he is the co founder, and his team found the thing, he is not off and I say fuck all the time too he works and has a great track record you do know people are fully behind him right. VOp had a huge team out there....Shillman is ignoring what was found and changing the story they have hundreds of witnesses and tons of early footage that shows the locals, the pics, the bunker, the rape trees, the knife, the hair dye etc. also they found a trafficking map and a lot hasn't hit the airwaves yet.

LexTalionis

This was a much more appropriately put together post on this theory than the previous post I just commented on. Mature and concisely done, although I hope not true. It's hitting the heart so I am trying to have a faith that more positive awareness will come of this and not this theory presented, but if so, I would still hold ground and not jump of the angst cliff...

urbanmoving

Factually inaccurate though. And also speculation with no basis in fact. Why don't ya'll investigate something before talking about it everyone is changing their story on everything and ignoring what was found, Meyer has like a dozen people around him a whole team for the most part. their are a ton of volunteers. Did you even watch the early videos? Man, You can't deal with dense people.

ESOTERICshade

Maybe, just maybe the VOP guy is the Edgar Maddison Welch of Tuscon. Maybe Craig got in for a close look and backed off?

I think you might have nailed it. My thoughts are pretty similar. Very similar as a matter of fact.

urbanmoving

That is absurd, Are you shills? No facts presented, none whatsoever relevant to the evidence. Shillman already scrubbed his first vid where he said 3rd party admitted the cops never came out he was way after the initial discovery and the meeting took place not at a site but gas station too bad its archived and saved and the Hagmann vid is still up. He is lying claiming VOP called him...not true. Also he called the FBI why did he call the FBI? why hasn't he mentioned any of the evidence other than the bunker? Condoms, rape trees, DARK hair dye, bloody childrens clothes, human trafficking map, docs, comb with blonde hair. Oh yea and Tranny Cowboy hat guy on video admitting he built it then denying it and firing warning / marker shots witnesses everywhere.

ESOTERICshade

Condoms, rape trees, DARK hair dye, bloody childrens clothes, human trafficking map, docs, comb with blonde hair

Said the VOP meth tweaker with a history of being a sensationalistic trouble maker drug addict for many years. Im not saying it don't exist. I am however saying that meth tweaker does not have my respect.

urbanmoving

Discredited, a person's drug use long ago and a decade of sobriety is pretty outstanding you sperg, thanks for discrediting you lying ass. He has no history of "sensational" trouble you spergy twat. He told the truth. a bunch of paranoid radicalized dumbasses started a fight with him and Jeff Kagan and a host of others https://images.dailykos.com/images/193683/story_image/jdawg2_copy.jpg?1452272526 after they brought supplies and tried removing a friend of his who had PTSD and was suicidal as tested out by everyone else, he supported their cause but was a moderate who only went up there to try to the dude out and give them supplies. they sperged the fuck out and made a scene. MM smells like roses...Amazing how you lie and ignore facts and make mountains out of molehills. Fucking pathetic you fuck mouthed shill. You just got BTFO now get off our board.

WHAA he got falsely arrested for protesting the abandonment of vets 5 years ago and the charges were dropped because of his peaceful disobedience, WHHHAA

I bet your low IQ ass has a picture of MLK hanging up somewhere and Bill "Bomber" Ayers.

ESOTERICshade

Discredited, a person's drug use long ago and a decade of sobriety is pretty outstanding you sperg, thanks for discrediting you lying

Easy bro.

He has no history of "sensational" trouble you spergy twat.

I have posted it alllllll over this forum for two days. You saw it. If he didn't talk to God all day, and didn't have the crazy meth head aura, and acted sane, I would probably send the dude some money. But nope. I don't think he is evil, I just think he is full of shit.

urbanmoving

Yea keep at it, I background checked this guy days ago I watched as many vids and saw the spergy crap that shill video had concerning the supplies and fight, go smear people's character somewhere else. Did your precious saintly FBI and police arrest Meyer? No i find it funny your type are using "radicals" aka FBI agents like Santelli and his ilk to smear gandhi types that UNARMED ANTI VIOLENCE and have good motives. You support violent assaults on fat do gooder civilians like Jeff Kagan, why don't you attack him common asshole. Show your colors, even the daily "Kos" reported the incident to attack the Bundys who were in the right. BTW Meyer stayed after going up there with a group talked with the cops etc. supporting the Bundy fight but advocating peace..."oh dear lord the horror" Smearing him as crisis actor Welch, and that faked stunt. You are really on my nerves you know that? Everything you say makes no SENSE and is entirely contradictory.

Welch "violent gunman" Meyer "Unarmed peace advocate"

Bundy Ranch FBI plants starting crap and tha dude lying about being a "Ranger"(was a vet had ptsd though Ryan whatever his name) and Santelli's crew...wow

BTW his "record" isn't his its other same named people its called bleed over, check SSN, and addresses, age, and arrest photos....OH THATS RIGHT YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

I'm sick of people mouthing off, knowing nothing.

Snopes, MSM, Infowars, "Open Secrets"-Zionist operations etc. All attacking JUST LIKE MCMARTIN, FINDERS, PRESIDIO, AND PIZZAGATE...

Yep. Nice try. No Dice.

ESOTERICshade

No i find it funny your type are using "radicals" aka FBI agents like Santelli and his ilk to smear

I know who that is but I don't have an opinon on him.


Did your precious saintly FBI and police arrest Meyer?

I only know one person from my childhood that became a police officer.


You support violent assaults on fat do gooder civilians like Jeff Kagan

Wut?


Show your colors, even the daily "Kos" reported the incident to attack the Bundys who were in the right.

I agree. The Bundly's got a raw deal. I have written reams of paragragraphs in support of the Bundy family.


You are really on my nerves you know that?

Apparently so.


Welch "violent gunman" Meyer "Unarmed peace advocate"

I believe Meyer has helped a lot of people and will probably help more people. I also believe he is full of shit, unhinged, and probably still doing drugs.


Blacksmith21

And the CEMEX bulldozing of the site = bullet through the hard drive (article says ceiling).

new4now

a locked door where children may have been

because he found no children, pizzagate was debunked SMH

ESOTERICshade

And the CEMEX bulldozing of the site = bullet through the hard drive (article says ceiling).

Yup, and similar to hauling off the evidence of 911 before anybody could examine it.

  1. Getting rid of evidence of child trafficking?
  2. Gettng rid of it to keep the gawkers and onlookers away?
  3. Both of the above?
  4. Only one of the above?

Blacksmith21

See what happens when you read?

ESOTERICshade

See what happens when you read?

I saw it before I busted your balls. But Q has to go to the sewer, bro :)

ESOTERICshade

Automatic down vote and report for spam because attaching the #Qanon hashtag to a post. My new policy.

Blacksmith21

Thank you for identifying yourself. That didn't take long. Those who scream the loudest. My new policy.

ESOTERICshade

Thank you for identifying yourself. That didn't take long. Those who scream the loudest. My new policy.

You bit the Q bait hook line and sinker. Considering this you cannot be taken seriously. I will read your post and see what it says. But from now on anything with "Q Shit Anon" gets my down vote.


I have been warning people about the unhinged leader of Veterans On Patrol. He is as destructive as QAnon to our cause. He did exactly in this situation what he did the last two times he climbed a tower and dared the cops to "come and get him." He discredited our cause. Him and Q both have to be flushed out, AND MAINLY, we can't embrace these people in the future because more of them will be sent our way. I'm tired of you gullible mother fuckers creating confusion.


Now the normies will read the following. Major set back for us. Don't fall for these fake people.

https://tucson.com/news/local/steller-column-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-catches-fire-despite-lack-of/article_b6b6c798-22a3-5ccb-9fb2-99cdccfc73d9.html

Blacksmith21

The fact that you'd comment on something without reading it, or the source says a lot about your credibility.

ESOTERICshade

Notice how I don't down vote you when I talk to you, but like a little biatch you down vote me? Thats because....well...you figure it out.

Blacksmith21

Nice stopping short of Pizzagate. What's the problem? You sound an awful lot like a limited hangout. I downvoat you because you're a fucking asshole.

QAnon wasn't the point of the article. The controlled narrative using Pizzagate as a discreditor, and tie it in with QAnon, Tuscon, etc. If anything, the article SUPPORTS your position in some regards. But alas, you didn't read it.

ESOTERICshade

Nice stopping short of Pizzagate. What's the problem?

I said "pizzagate has been real for thousands of years." Are you deaf or playing biatch games? Pizzagate was real before the term "pizzagate" was even coined. Basically its called "organized and institutionalized child rape." Are you deaf or just a little man child?


QAnon wasn't the point of the article.

No shit Sherlock. So why trash up our forum with it? It has nothing to do with this subject, you INJECTED IT into our atmosphere. Why did you do that? You selling T-Shirts?


If anything, the article SUPPORTS your position in some regards. But alas, you didn't read it.

You actually made a couple of good points in your OP. But when you knee drag in here with stupid Q Anon, from now, i'm gonna point it out. Its stupid and it needs to die.

Blacksmith21

Yeah, except the authors/owners of that article (Gannett) were specifically called out by QAnon in February.

"Gannett is also located in McLean, VA. Coincidence? Just the tip. Q"

Hopefully you can read that without getting triggered.

ESOTERICshade

Yeah, except the authors/owners of that article (Gannett) were specifically called out by QAnon in February.

"Gannett is also located in McLean, VA. Coincidence? Just the tip. Q"

Hopefully you can read that without getting triggered.

A blind hog finds an acorn every now and then if it makes a thousand vague predictions. That Gannett thing was an instance of a specific topic that Q addressed and i'm admitting it.


The problem with "Q" is that there is no intel agent named Q. Its a bunch of larpers and the control changes hands every couple of months and the content shows that. The first couple of Q fakers were actually sort of interesting and led to a few interesting things. The new controllers of Q were more interested in making money and it all crashed.


Just let it go and make yourself valuable to the community. I believe your heart is in the right place, and I KNOW you have a lot to learn yet or you would have never fallen for that bullshit in the first place.

Blacksmith21

The blind hog theory has left the station.

ESOTERICshade

The blind hog theory has left the station.

The measure of a man's character is not what he does right, or how he acts when things are going great, but how he deals with his mistakes. Food for thought.

Blacksmith21

Find another person here who has publicly corrected themselves, as have I.

ESOTERICshade

Find another person here who has publicly corrected themselves, as have I.

Your Q branded thread went over like a shit pile of bricks. Pull head from ass, look around, find mirror, look at self, correct errors. Right now you are just an arrogant mother fucker making himself look bad. Is that who you want to be?

Blacksmith21

[yawn]

ESOTERICshade

[yawn]

That is why you continue to repeat your mistakes and are often useless to the cause. You are never wrong. Good luck with that.

Blacksmith21

And you are a liar.

ESOTERICshade

And you are a liar.

In order for you to become what you think you are, you would first have to have what is known as an "ego death" and its more painful than battery acid. I went through it.


Its obvious to me that you are not there and probably never will be. An ego death is not for the faint of heart, and most people don't understand what that means, and never will.


That ego is eating your ass alive. This Monkey is the ego and it enslaves most people. In order for you to become this bad dog, which is what you want to be, you have to get rid of that Monkey on your back. The ego thinks its hot shit, and its nothing.

https://files.catbox.moe/qnb5js.jpg


Stop being vapid, find your true self.

Blacksmith21

Stop trying to sound like you're smart. We all know assholes who exhibit that type of behavior. Don't be one of those assholes.

Blacksmith21

I lost most of my ego a long time ago. I'm stuck in a bizarre confluence of life circumstances which puts me in a very, unique position vis a vis Pizzagate/Deep State, which you will never remotely understand from a front row seat POV.

If I suffered from an over-inflated ego, I would be arguing my position. Which I am not. I have no need to defend my position, or defend myself to you. Your concern-trolling is weak, at best.

ESOTERICshade

which you will never remotely understand from a front row seat POV.

I spent 7 years fighting to stay alive from this pizzagate shit. I was doing this before the word Pizzagate was even born. There ain't much you can tell me about this shit that I don't already know. I had to stop because I had three surgeries from this shit.


Deep State

Newbie nomenclature. Not impressed. I also saw you tellling another poster that you were a confederate southerner. And you don't even know pigs live in Arizon. Fails bro.


If I suffered from an over-inflated ego, I would be arguing my position.

When and if, if ever, that ego dies, you will have a position. Until then, you are a slave.

Blacksmith21

1) I asked if anyone knew if pigs were an issue in that specific AO - area of operations - what the fuck do you think that means? If you wanna talk crawling through pig runs with CC Filson canvas gear and a .44 mag w/ iron sights hunting pigs, come and talk to me. Again - you have no idea WTF you are talking about.

2) I've spent my whole life fighting this shit. My fucking family is Deep State, NWO, 3rd Reich, 4th Reich - whatever the flavor of the day is. So spare me your righteous indignation for someone else.

3) "Biatch"? What's next? Talk to the hand.

ESOTERICshade

I've spent my whole life fighting this shit. My fucking family is Deep State, NWO, 3rd Reich, 4th Reich - whatever the flavor of the day is. So spare me your righteous indignation for someone else.

roflmao. those of us that know, we don't speak like that

Blacksmith21

You conveniently ignored #1. Would you like to show me how smart you are about whipping up wildcat handloads for the .44 Mag? Or how about optimizing terminal ballistics in .308 optimized for free floating barrels? And I'm positive you can give me some pointers on the best maintenance regimens on high power precision rifles. Come on....out with the knowledge Mr. Knowitall.

ESOTERICshade

Would you like to show me how smart you are about whipping up wildcat handloads for the .44 Mag?

big man gun talk. ok

Blacksmith21

You just showed your vag while your nipples simultaneously leaked.

Don't ever fucking call me out on something again you little cocksucker. Unless you are prepared to come armed with facts.

Which you obviously do not have. Question my Southern heritage and knowledge of hunting and guns? Then I destroy you?

"big man gun talk"

And you pull the Trudeau card? You're a little ballet dancing bottom.

Little. Faggot. Punk.

ESOTERICshade

Like I said, you little fake biatch, only one of us has has 1 down vote in our conversation. You down vote me because you are a man child. I don't need to down vote you because i'm a real man. Let that sink in, Biatch

Blacksmith21

You are a pussy mouthed cocksucker, and that's all you are, cuck. Name a "man subject" and let's discuss....you can't. Pussy.

You called me out about guns and hunting and YOU HAVE NOTHING....You got owned little faggot. Stick to the subject. Tell me what you know about guns, Man.

ESOTERICshade

@rarepeeks was right. you are a fucking Israeli dog.

ESOTERICshade

You are a pussy mouthed cocksucker, and that's all you are, cuck. Name a "man subject" and let's discuss....you can't. Pussy.

You called me out about guns and hunting and YOU HAVE NOTHING....You got owned little faggot. Stick to the subject. Tell me what you know about guns, Man.

Naaaa, i'm gonna pretend that i'm you

"you hurt my fee fees, i have nothing of substance to add, fuck you wrong person, i be big confederate southern man that don't know wild pigs live in the southern part of the united states. i rit, u rong, down vote u bitch"

ESOTERICshade

You just showed your vag while your nipples simultaneously leaked.

Don't ever fucking call me out on something again you little cocksucker. Unless you are prepared to come armed with facts.

Which you obviously do not have. Question my Southern heritage and knowledge of hunting and guns? Then I destroy you?

"big man gun talk"

And you pull the Trudeau card? You're a little ballet dancing bottom.

Little. Faggot. Punk.

you're thread and your credibility sunk to the bottom of the sea. I can't help you with that.

Blacksmith21

The bleat of desperation.

ESOTERICshade

Cant help you with that, failed Alinsky student, you better study the Hasbara manual some more becaue you keep fucking yourself. Because, you just ain't good at this.

Blacksmith21

@oh_well_ian @vincator @srayzie @think-

When ^^^^ little boys get punked. Don't believe the hype. @Esoteric_shade is 100% bullshit. #obamastype

srayzie

You guys sound like you’re in an Alpha Male contest lol. Why not just ignore each other?

Blacksmith21

Alpha male contests require 2 alpha males. He's a cuck. Nothing male about @esoteric_shade .

Blacksmith21

Oh I forgot, you have a "secret code" and a decoder ring.

ESOTERICshade

Oh I forgot, you have a "secret code" and a decoder ring.

Indeed. And we don't give it to idiots.

ESOTERICshade

The fact that you'd comment on something without reading it, or the source says a lot about your credibility.

You inflicted this community with Q Stupidity and now you have to live with the results of your actions. You were a big Q Supporter and now that mustache lost its flavor right? I hope you learned something. If you want to be of value to the community you need to use better discernment, and most of all, let it be known when you realize that you got spoofed into a fake situation. People will respect you for that, and right now, hmmmmmmmmm

Blacksmith21

Do you think Pizzagate is real @esotericshade ? Do you think pedophiles should be put to death? Edit: Go fuck yourself.

ESOTERICshade

Do you think Pizzagate is real @esotericshade ?

It has been real for thousands of years.


Do you think pedophiles should be put to death?

Either that or locked in prison for life.


Go fuck yourself.

mmmmm....naaaaa, not my style

Shillaxe

You 2 have the best arguments.

If a narrative were being written in re. Tucson ,the general public will now associate anyone involved with trying to help as; homeless , tweakers ( VOP) & right wing nuts (THE SAWMAN) ... I believe another angle has to do with Donald Rothschild Trumps new tariffs on steel, the price of cement will sky rocket & Cemex is new competition.

Blacksmith21

Anyone know if there is a pig problem in that immediate area?

“We use straps to tie the food up to keep the javelinas away,” he said. “There was no tying of any individuals, children or anything.”

ESOTERICshade

Anyone know if there is a pig problem in that immediate area?

I can tell you from personal experience that Texas is slap full of wild pigs. I have killed some of them myself.

ESOTERICshade

from what I read, they really stink

a lot of wild animals coming into populated areas for food

We have these bad boys around my house. Those Havelinas in that pic ain't shit compared to the pigs in my neighborhood. These pigs around my neck of the woods will kill you and eat you.

http://pixdaus.com/files/items/pics/9/31/521931_c3b20589cfc2e4e1aa23b7efb51e9e2f_large.jpg

new4now

the only pigs running lose up here are the 2 legged variety

we do have a lot of coyotes

had a 10 pt buck paw and snort at me once when I was putting corn out for skinny herd

damn buck was pissed at me because I was between him and the birdseed

this was in city with a little over half million people

your creepy crawlers are A Lot bigger too

ESOTERICshade

from what I read, they really stink

a lot of wild animals coming into populated areas for food

I grew up with wild pigs. The whole southern United States is full of wild pigs. They stink, they are mean, they tear up land and property, they can kill you if they want to, they will eat damn near anything, and they taste pretty good.

new4now

up here, deer fills the freezers

think-

These are supposed to be straps to tie food up?! I doubt it.

Are_we_sure

Why?

The same type of straps are found in other homeless camps in the area. The same type of straps are found throughout that camp used to hold things up

think-

Would you have photos?

Are_we_sure

“Obviously, Tucson is a desert. We don’t have a lot of shade, so these kinds of camps are very common,” a police spokesman said, explaining the underground portion of the encampment. As for the straps, the spokesman said: “We see those in every homeless camp we encounter. They look the same as other straps that were holding up parts of the structure.”

Laurie Mazerbo, chief program office of Our Family Services, a nonprofit that helps homeless families and the victims of human trafficking in the Tucson area, said that the encampment “looked a lot like any other camp we see in our desert” for homeless people trying to escape the heat.

The crossbeams on these trees are held up with this type of strap https://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/newscms/2018_23/2457751/180607-homeless-camp-arizona-mn-1110_7494b16cb223886fc2ba39d2716d520d.focal-1000x500.JPG

http://api.ning.com/files/uzJ4JQM-C-18wFCjH51ZkR6nYMymD1Mcyco4kAAH2OQotZ5TULBRK4sXcy9QgpUuDARZFDmCZiBH63bMKryXIZam4G5W3DVO/1927052138.jpeg

https://youtu.be/mUJ9vPV0XFc?t=67

Blacksmith21

"And when Arthur talks, he speaks in the anti-government language of the militias. He announced via Facebook Live on June 2, three days into the child sex-trafficking panic: “At 1900 hours Veterans on Patrol is trespassing the United States federal government from the property that the Cemex Corporation has handed over to the cartels.”

think-

child sex-trafficking panic

Well, child trafficking is real in the area. Also the rape of women and children who pay coyotes to get them across the border.

If these news outlets would be legit, they would write that it couldn't be substantiated that the actual camp served these purposes, but take the opportunity to publish articles about the human trafficking and child rape problem.

Trying to debunk everything as 'mass hysteria' (like Posobiec) stinks.

ESOTERICshade

If these news outlets were legit, they would write that it couldn't be substantiated that the actual camp served these purposes, but take the opportunity to publish articles about the human trafficking and child rape problem.

Back in the days of the Wild West when people were traveling from East to West everybody used the same trails. Good guys, bad guys, families, etc...

I see this situation much the same. I would imagine that cartel dope runners, innocent families, child traffickers, all using the same trails and waypoints to some degree. They get mixed in with each other and bad things happen.

Blacksmith21

"But to grasp why they were primed to find evidence of child-sex trafficking, you have to go in different directions: to the militia movement and Pizzagate."

Blacksmith21

The Deep State propaganda arm is reinforcing that Pizzagate is a CONSPIRACY THEORY. Imprinting. Repetition. Refreshing. Convince the masses it isn't true.**