ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = HUMAN TRAFFICKING ( pizzagate )

submitted by Oh_Well_ian

People are waking up >> https://voat.co/v/whatever/2598250 >> https://voat.co/v/whatever/2598414

1 ) These people stacking up at the border ARE NOT Immigrants, they are Foreign Nationals . They do not have the right to break our laws and enter into our country illegally. They do not have Diplomatic Status and they are subject to ALL our laws, just like every American citizen. Any American who attempts to illegally breach a border or unlawfully enter into another country will be arrested and deported immediately. They will be banned or forever restricted from entering into that country ( or other countries ) in the future. Their passports ( if they have one ) will be revoked by our own State Department and they will be fined and possibly imprisoned.

2 ) Half the minor children that make it to the Southern Border are UNACCOMPANIED by their actual parents. That means they are more than likely victims of human trafficking, not victims of our laws. It would be morally irresponsible to turn these children loose in our country and subject them to the vast and predatory network of human trafficking.

3 ) The danger and threat to these children infinitely decreases the minute they are picked up by DHS, ICE and Border Patrol. The are protected from being victimized by Coyotes and traffickers. They are no longer subject to the harsh elements nor in danger of starvation or dehydration. They are fed, given shelter and water, blankets and a place to sleep while their status is determined. Almost none of these foreign nationals have documentation and it makes for an extremely complicated process of finding out who they are, their country of origin, and whether they are being trafficked. The delays are not cruelty and they are not being held a single day longer than they need to. They are not being incarcerated, they are being detained. ( I actually saw bleeding heart news story on MSNBC with a narrative about the inhumanity the poor children were suffering with an accompanying video of kids shooting pool and playing video games on a big screen TV. Probably the kids first ever experience with such horrible human cruelty. o_0)

4 ) Fast and Furious was more than just handing guns to Drug Cartels. That narrative lacks the central truth about Drug Cartels: THEY ARE HUMAN/SEX TRAFFICKERS, TOO!! The Obama/Clinton State Department was running guns deep into Central America, including Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. They were handing the guns directly to Drug/Human trafficking Cartels in a deliberate effort to destabilize those countries and facilitate human trafficking . Sound familiar? It should, because they did the same thing in Libya, Syria, Mogadishu, Liberia, Congo, and at least 10 other nations. This is the PLAN. Force refugees North to Europe and the United States and prey upon them every step of their journey. This is why you see mostly men in the massive wave that finally arrives at our ports and borders. The women and children have been picked like ripe fruit and swept into sex trafficking and slavery.

5 ) Lawmakers don't give two shits about this contrived and created problem. The President is the only person calling for a WALL and for Congress to act towards a solution. Democrats and Republicans alike are following the disingenuous narrative being laid out by the Orwellian MSM: 'Trump is destroying Families!! Oh, the humanity!!' <BARF> Human trafficking is big business and donors to both partiers are profiting enormously over the status quo. Politicians don't want a solution. They want a distraction to keep the train heading down the tracks.

Shizy

Well done Ian! I am so sick of the phony bleeding heart bullshit lies from the MSM on this!

Podge512

I am reminded of a couple of Lolfieldandlove's 'Programmed To Kill' videos on Youtube on Henry Lee Lucas & Otis Toole, two of the worst serial killers America has ever seen. They claimed to be members of a cult called 'The Hand of Death' and in addition to carrying out contract murders for the cult, they claimed to have participated in abducting children and taking them into Juarez to be raped and murdered in ritual sacrifices/child porn/snuff movies. Strangely, Lucas and Toole, who were caught, tried, convicted and condemned in Texas and Florida respectively, both had their death sentences commuted by the usually execution happy then Governors of those states, George & Jeb Bush.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPra_oo2tcI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0IM-AOpfq4

exposethecriminals

How do illegal immigrants afford to pay the cartel those multiple thousand dollar fees? They go into debt, in most cases.

Coyotes advertise on the radio in Guatemala....offer loans for many thousands of dollars with property as guarantee....when the payments can't be made...

....they often threaten violence, forcing many families to borrow from Banrural, the main bank in rural Guatemala, or from cooperatives and credit unions, all of which happily advertise credit on billboards above the rural area’s muddy roads.

Many families have come away with nothing more than regrets.

http://archive.is/U5Mhx

So the banks are involved, not a surprise.

exposethecriminals

More on Banrural bank, which lends people money to pay those that traffic them north:

f.y.i. @Oh_Well_ian @carmencita

carmencita

Oh God. USAID. I am sure we have connected them to the Clintons before.

carmencita

Barf. Chelsea sitting next to a little child. Dangerous.

carmencita

HoHo. Just think that they get money from almost all charities and found. CF CGI You name it We should look up a slew of them & I bet there will be a ton. I will go out on a limb and wager that money is being siphoned off all of or 3 largest cities and going to fund their evil ops. Just a guess.

Oh_Well_ian

It's all unraveling

carmencita

UpVoat4U! Phenomenal post! So agree on All Points. Soon they will be trotting out Clooney and wife(?) crying 😭 about human rights. Angelina & Madonna also making trips down there to get their fresh pick. Gag me with a spoon. I am waiting for the PedoWood Brigade🤬

Vindicator

@Oh_Well_ian : As you are well aware, unsourced discussion posts belong in v/pizzagatewhatever and are not allowed on v/pizzagate . You need to add links to supporting evidence for all of your discussion points to turn this into a research thread, or we will have to remove it. I will give you the 24 Hour Grace flair to do so.

Oh_Well_ian

sure.. but once again, PG Mods are not letting Voaters speak with their votes like the rest of the entire platform that honors free speech.

Also, what ever happened to Pizzagate Bot? Was Pizzagate bot archiving too many SOURCES and linking them together, allowing people to see the WEB of child sex trafficking?

Boy.. how about we significantly improve v/pizzagate and make it 1000x easier for researchers to SOURCE their posts by BRINGING BACK PIZZAGATE BOT ??

I move that you create a STICKY and allow VOATERS TO VOTE on whether @PizzagateBot should be brought back. Can I get a SECOND?

carmencita

Here! Here! I Second Your Motion. and Your Emotion.

think-

Also, what ever happened to Pizzagate Bot?

Ian, the guy who ran the Pizzagate bot left Voat. If you or anybody else knows how to run a bot like this, you are kindly invited and very welcome to create and run one.

In the meantime, you might want to use searchvoat.co.

Thanks.

@Vindicator

Oh_Well_ian

Really? I thought is was a code program, because Pizzagate bot was almost always first to comment on any post, even before Derram.

That indicates it was a program in the system.

Is that something you were told or has it been 100% verified ?

think-

Really? I thought is was a code program

Nope. It was a user who created it, and when he left, the Pizzagate bot left with him.

Yes, it is verified, lol. ;-)

@Vindicator

Oh_Well_ian

excuse me if I don't believe you

what could possible explain how fast his posts would come up?

think-

excuse me if I don't believe you

If you don't believe me, I can't help it, Ian. @Vindicator can confirm what I said.

what could possible explain how fast his posts would come up?

Which posts?

Oh_Well_ian

every linked post and every post that contained links... were you not here in the early days?

Is there a statement from the user about his departure or was it... 'welp, I guess he left! gee wiz..' ?

think-

every linked post and every post that contained links...

They came up that quickly, because it was a bot....just like @Derram 's bot.

Is there a statement from the user about his departure

@Vindicator was in touch with him before he left IIRC. He might be able to get back to you when he'll be in later.

@heygeorge can confirm that the Pizzagate bot wasn't 'part of the system', but a user application.

I don't understand why you don't believe what I say, though.

@Crensch @ben_matlock

heygeorge

@Oh_Well_Ian when you say something like this:

thought is was a code program

You are indicating that you don't know what you are talking about, so I can understand your confusion. If PGBot was faster than derram, it's prob because they set it to check more often. It was only tracking one subverse, after all.

Otherwise, my recall is the same as think-'s. I assure you it was not part of the 'system'.

Oh_Well_ian

It should be part of the system..

How hard would it be to implement ?

heygeorge

I can't see how a bot for a specific subverse will ever be an integral part of Voat.

As far as I remember, the PGBot was pretty clever. So the difficulty may be less in the implementation but in the precise idea behind it. That being said, someone will then need to host and run it as well as (ideally, although this is a smaller task) get the Voat API keys from Putts.

Vindicator

@Oh_Well_ian @think- @carmencita @heygeorge :

Pizzagate Bot left after there was a bruhaha when he began using his bot to against another v/pizzagate user whom he thought was a spreading disinfo. That researcher, who had published a number of well-written articles on normie sites and had quite a few well-upvoted posts, naively doxed themselves. PGB and a couple of others began attacking them on multiple threads in the comment section based on where the person worked, where their grandfather worked, and the town they lived in, claiming they were connected to the murder of Aaron Schwartz.

The user deleted the self-doxing comments and submissions they had put up, but PGB used his archive to repost them, which is in direct violation of several parts of the Voat User Agreement.

I deleted his re-doxing comment and pinged the O's to the fact that I did it. A large shitshow ensued over whether what he did was okay, with multiple mods and O's commenting with different opinions. He wanted to know if the bot itself was a violation of the Voat User Agreement, even though I had called him out for misusing the information it scraped, not for the automatic thread-linking feature.

Shortly thereafter, the bot went away. As I recall, Putt was pinged in the original discussion and I certainly gave the user who was doxed the information about how to contact him to make a DMCA takedown request to have it permanently removed from the Removed area. I don't know what happened after that, if Putt had anything to do with PGB's exit from Voat, but he stopped posting directly thereafter.

Oh_Well_ian

wow... thanks... very cloak and dagger

Vindicator

More like a complete drama shitshow. :-( The user in question has not done the same quality work since.

Oh_Well_ian

well, I was unaware of the particulars of the meltdown and I do believe you and think on the matter..

I remember pg bot as a very useful tool for reminding me of the pg map and assisting in connecting dots on new submissions

think-

Thank you, @heygeorge .

Oh_Well_ian

well, you're winning me over because you're explaining the situation more comprehensively

think-

@Crensch : please see convo above. Thanks.

Oh_Well_ian

no.. don't bother with him

I trust you to sort it out.

GreenDell144

Thanks for this post.

I would just like to add my experience and opinion to this conversation.

Legal immigration is not terribly inconvenient. Reasonable people that go to the US can do it legally. It’s more inconvenient to go to Disneyland, which has higher security (yet somehow still has a pedo underground).

I’ve brought my wife (not a citizen) across a couple of times. We had an appointment at the consulate days in advance. She was interviewed. She paid a modest fee. It wasn’t ‘convenient’, but it wasn’t outrageous. There are provisions for refugees, the poor and those seeking asylum for any number of reasons. Those provisions are as reasonable as you would expect them to be after decades of debate and adjustment.

Their is very little excuse, reason or sense in trying to enter ANY country illegally.

ESOTERICshade

This from OP is the true reality:

5 ) Lawmakers don't give two shits about this contrived and created problem. The President is the only person calling for a WALL and for Congress to act towards a solution. Democrats and Republicans alike are following the disingenuous narrative being laid out by the Orwellian MSM: 'Trump is destroying Families!! Oh, the humanity!!' <BARF> Human trafficking is big business and donors to both partiers are profiting enormously over the status quo. Politicians don't want a solution. They want a distraction to keep the train heading down the tracks.

Politicians from both parties taking kickbacks and bribes from Non Profits, foundations and NGOs they secretly have financial interest in. Billions of taxpayer dollars (our money) being stolen. Companies and corporations that sell supplies and services at sky high prices for immigration "needs" being siphoned off. i.e companies of the Halliburton/Dyncorp ilk, and Hebrew Aid Society (HIAS)

HIAS sounds a lot like "hiss", as in the "hiss of the serpent" and it wouldn't surprise me if that is on purpose because the Talmud thumpers do things like that because they think its funny.

These scumbags are neck deep in it.

HIAS, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society.

1,500 rabbis sign letter calling on Trump administration to ... (JTA) — More than 1,500 U.S. rabbis signed a letter calling on the incoming Trump administration to maintain the federal refugee resettlement program. HIAS, a global Jewish nonprofit that protects refugees , released the letter on Wednesday. Formerly known as the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, the ...

HIAS, these human being farming parasites are "protecting" refugees while they read their Talmud that tells them all "others" are scum to be used like firewood. Talmud thumping Rabbis that are not racist? Nobody could find 1500 Rabbis that follow the Talmud that are not racist. You can probably count the Rabbis on one hand that are willing to speak out against their parasite brethern.

auralsects

you are all such fucking pathetic pussy-ass morons.

illegal immigration/refugees is 100% about long-term replacing white populations and provoking political turmoil in their countries. it's not some business move or mass-Satanist-kidnapping scam, jfc. you cover for jews even when you Name them, loser!

I hope to god these 'migrants' are being victimized in every possible way and orifice and that they spread the word in their brown countries so that they are too scared to risk coming and instead grow some balls to fix their own problems in their own countries.

Shizy

Here's Donkey boy with his rigid, black/white thinking again! Hey donkey, ask you skank mom if she liked to get shit faced wasted when she was pregnant with you. My suspicion, based on your apparent processing issues, was yes she did!

NoBS

You know it's bad when most of the children are experienced prostitutes and drugged up victims of trafficking.

Those "mothers" are pimps and the children are products.

Oh_Well_ian

bingo.. just like here in the states... many of these trafficking networks are run staffed with Satanic Witches women

Look at NXIVM

auralsects

No, pretty sure theyre all staffed by jews, because JEWISH GROUPS have proudly been the driving force behind EVERY SINGLE PRO-IMMIGRATION CAMPAIGN IN THIS COUNTRY FOR OVER 100 YEARS.

satanic witches indeed. fucking boomer faggots like you cannot die fast enough.

Oh_Well_ian

The only time Jews get their hands dirty is when they are counting the cash or raping the children.

They are the end users and sole and major beneficiaries of the Network.

Another Jew tactic is advocating suicide of the Goyim and driving Generational Warfare among them.

Isn't that right Scholmo? ( I'm Gen X btw, faggot )

DeathToMasonsASAP

I like most of your thread, but you slipped in there how the children are being protected when they are separated, not potentially trafficked. This does not jive to me. More like, the non parents are part of the trafficking, and the authorities, take the children to centers where they are held and then parceled out for trafficking. This gives them the veneer of legitimacy that they are "rescuing' the children, when it is likely the way they move children. Men bring them in, children taken by authorities, detained at Walmarts who are in cahoots with FEEMA, then the children disappear. You also threw in your typical phony left vs right nonsense in an attempt to say Trump is fighting the traffickers. I want to give you credit for this thread, and I will. But you are trying to say the authorities are not doing the trafficking. This makes me want to thumbs down. Did they do something about the Finders or any other cases? They cover up. They are part of it. Not the Dems, all of them. Remeber, PG is an alt right conspiracy.

NoBS

They have DNA test strips that are 99.9% accurate on bio-parents. Bio-cousins (1/4 blood line) hit above 75%.

Oh_Well_ian

I adequately cover your concerns about DEM/REP's in the final point. The Finders controversy was over 20 years ago and the government is it's most turbulent period of flux since the Civil War, so that is barely relevant here, at all. Because you deny Q, it prevents you from putting the pieces together.

DeathToMasonsASAP

So, has the FBI gone after PG, or covered it up? 20 years? Their job is to cover up when it comes out.

ESOTERICshade

Because you deny Q , it prevents you from putting the pieces together.

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The Q rhetoric is beyond Qult like and its Qreepy. " Those who deny QAnon ", wtf? All those who deny the Great Prophet QAnon, our Savior In Sheep, are lost? Is that like "those who deny Jesus?"

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wow brah, dat was some strong Qrack brah....I be enlightened now

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As you saw in the above graphic this causes a condition known as Qockeyed Quckoo

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Real truthers are desperately trying to save the fallen Qrew of Qruthers but so far no Qure has been found. Stay tuned for more news on the Quirky symptoms of Qrack overdose.

And remember, "Qrack kill brain cells."

Oh_Well_ian

Funny.. because Q was saying THREE MONTHS ago that Goodlatte and Horowitz were working together to bring down the FBI and HILLARY and I didn't hear any of that from YOU.

Turn on any MSM channel and tell me who is talking right now in Congressional Hearings and exposing the criminals at the FBI.

hint: It's GOODLATTE AND HOROWITZ

ESOTERICshade

Turn on any MSM channel and tell me who is talking right now in Congressional Hearings and exposing the criminals at the FBI.

I have seen you say many times that the whole MSM, all of them, FOX, MSNBC, CNN etc....are all just liars and its all fake. By process of extrapolation we can use the powers of deductive reasoning and conclude that what they report on in Washington D.C. is also just a fake drama to distract us from important topics, and keep us from taking productive action. D.C. WANTS us to watch them and they only feed us mind poison. All news from Washington D.C. is a shit sandwich.

Oh_Well_ian

oh.. so it's FAKE that Horowitz, Trump and Q are ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ?

cover your ears and scream 'LALALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!'

You stupid son of a bitch... Please tell the room why they would bother when ((( they ))) could just apply the Obama model of 'everything is great, best President ever!!'

carmencita

Ian I will have to say you are losing it and me. The lousy language is poison to your views. You will turn people off. You have so many good things to say. Cool 😎 down please. I want to stay and hear you.

Oh_Well_ian

only the shills get this treatment..

sorry.. I grew up on the other side of the tracks and have been punching liars and bullies in the eye all my life..

carmencita

OK I get it. But I know it can get out of hand. 😊

Oh_Well_ian

It is Voat, you know. I get flack in other subs when I do things like this >> F*CK

However, I did send my comments to the sensors just for you. ;)

carmencita

:)

ESOTERICshade

oh.. so it's FAKE that Horowitz, Trump and Q are ALL ON THE SAME PAGE ?

Its known at the "Jesuit Theatre." The Jesuits invented the Magic Lantern and developed the art of theatre, known as acting. They are actors on a stage. The only thing they are serious about is getting a better snout position at the taxpayer pig trough of money. The rest is fake drama. This is why nobody hardly ever really goes to jail because people only go to jail if they do something to piss off the secret societies brotherhood.

WALTER VEITH 3 Jesuit Theater, Ocultism and Hollywood

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7OVhI189_c

Oh_Well_ian

It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to answer the question as you have been dodging it for over a year.

WHY THE DRAMA when they could just as easily go with the 'best President ever, everything is great' LARP?

It's not like you faggots are storming the Bastille.

'oooooo… better do this Government/MSM/Fortune 500 wide LARP so White Supremacists don't get riled!!' lol fucking joke

ESOTERICshade

It is IMPOSSIBLE for you to answer the question as you have been dodging it for over a year.

WHY THE DRAMA when they could just as easily go with the 'best President ever, everything is great' LARP?

Because Trump is a Larper too. His father and son in law both affiliated with Chabad. Soros and Rothschild bailed Trump out of debt through Wilbur Ross, long time Rothschild agent. Trump's father left Chabad a large tract of land to build a temple on. Trump has a life long affiliation with criminals and child exploiters.

It is obvious to non Qrack smokers.

exposethecriminals

Many immigrant children are not related to the adults claiming to be their parents:

(2018) ‘This Is Your Daughter? When Was She Born?’ U.S. Border Agents Test Migrants’ Claims of Family Ties

“This is your daughter?” an agent asked José Alfaro, 42, a street vendor from El Salvador, who said he came to the U.S. with his 3-year-old girl after gang members tried to kill him for the third time.

“Yes,” Mr. Alfaro murmured.

“When was she born? What date?”

Mr. Alfaro hesitated.

“She’s your daughter but you don’t know when she was born?” the agent asked.

Border Patrol officials say that in the Rio Grande Valley sector, agents have identified 376 cases of fraud among children and family migrants and prosecuted 54 cases this fiscal year....fraudulent birth certificates to say they are under age 18....

....seen “mix and match” families where people claim to be related but aren’t.

GreenDell144

Keep posting more of this 👆

EricKaliberhall

Hehe, did you give him the finger?

GreenDell144

I’m pointing up at this comment and saying it’s cool.

Maybe I can find a better emoji...

☝️

Better? Oops. 😬

carmencita

😎

exposethecriminals

June 18, 2018: Separating Border Fact From Border Fiction With Brandon Darby

(Infowars, sorry...)

Darby is managing director of Breitbart Texas, and from the original Breitbart team:

-The chain link dividers are a necessary evil, they separate children from adults, bad people from good, etc.

-He discusses the different cartels along the border

-You wrote this, he discusses that all immigrants pay thousands of dollars to Mexican cartels to make this trip ...and the women (I don't think he said it but obviously many men and children too) are sexually assaulted along the way "and worse once they get to America" by the cartels

I'll try to find time stamps and add them here --

carmencita

I don’t care who they are none of God’s children 👶 should endure such horrors Did not know either and I am sure they can meet the Bloody Wrath at the hands of MS-13. We All must contact our Congress People and Protest the ongoing nonsense.

exposethecriminals

Yes, the continued debt bondage of most illegal immigrants to the cartel seems to be intentionally kept secret by most who support illegal immigration.

I did dig up one 2014 MSM article that actually discusses it. I just made a comment on it. When payments can't be made, the banks are right there to hand out loans to pay the cartel!

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2598543/13071890

More from that article:

The banking system encourages the risky behavior. Jorge Gúzman, the manager at one of two Banrural banks in Nebaj, said loans are more likely to be approved if the family applying has a relative up north sending back money. The loans are supposed to be for construction or farming improvements, but Mr. Gúzman said “most people are not honest about why they are borrowing.”

http://archive.is/U5Mhx#selection-385.0-405.373

carmencita

Nothing surprises anymore. The banks are controlled by the Evil Cabal. Anything will be done to facilitate the trafficking and organ ops. Surprise article from MSM.

Are_we_sure

yeah, once you grab the kids from their parents, cages become the logical next step.

Shizy

Is that your MO AWS??😂 Sicko!

Oh_Well_ian

You dumb fuck.. those are not cages.

They're chain link separations to keep children from being RAPED by the 'fake fathers' who dragged them up here.

NoBS

To cage the children on the predator side, ya sick fuck! This projection is getting rather desperate, no?

Oh_Well_ian

thanks for pitching in !! Big Momentum is going our way.

Pedal to the Metal

Oh_Well_ian

Two Sex Traffickers already downvoated !!