This is obvious dis information, all evidence points to direct state Department intervention at the highest level.

This is straight up false.

We couldn’t even get state Department intervention for the detention of Laura Ling in DPRK at the same time. And she was taken from the Chinese side of the border into NK.

Yeah our embassy in North Korea, really dropped the ball on this one. Didn't they. Wait, what's that we have no embassy in North Korea! That seems pretty big. And Lisa Ling, can you tell us why we have no embassy in North Korea?

Ms. LISA LING: The U.S. and North Korea have no diplomatic relationship. So they only communicate through a third-party country in Sweden, or through the six-party talks or from a humanitarian mission that they have in New York. But other than that, communication is next to zero.

So Lisa Ling even if we had no diplomatic relations with North Korea did you get any help from the State Department?

Ms. LISA LING: Well, from the get go, Vice President Gore and members from the State Department who had been advising us had strongly suggested that we keep things very, very quiet. And that was very understandable because we didn't know exactly what happened to Laura and Euna.

So we were also fearing that the North Koreans might do something drastic. I mean, this is a highly, highly unpredictable regime. The story that Laura and Euna were covering was a very, very sensitive one. So before knowing anything, we just thought we should maintain silence.

But I just started to reach out to as many contacts as I could, and one of the people who is most closely associated with U.S.-North Korea relations, is Governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson. He, of all American - of any American -has had the most successes in negotiating the releases of previous American detainees in North Korea. So he was a natural, sort of, connection to make.

And he was incredibly helpful from the start, and told me that he would start making contacts with the State Department and his contacts in North Korea. And a couple of days into our conversations, he was actually approached by President Obama and Secretary Clinton, and asked to actually help on our behalf.

http://www.wbur.org/npr/126613763/story.php

There's no comparison between the two situations. And it doesn't matter whatsoever that the NK border guards chased her back over the river, she was being held in North Korea.

What actually happened

Not Hillary: State Department rebuffs call for Clinton intervention in Haiti case

February 9, 2010

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will not get directly involved in the case of the 10 Americans detained in Haiti on child abduction charges, a State Department spokesman said Tuesday.

"It would be highly unusual for the secretary of state to intervene in a case involving the judicial process of another country," spokesman P.J. Crowley said in an off-camera question-and-answer session. "We have had regular consular access and meetings with the 10 American citizens," Crowley said. "I believe we have facilitated getting medicine or other needs to our citizens. We are doing exactly what we would do with detained Americans anywhere in the world.

"As to intervening directly in the case, we are very respectful of the Haitian government and of Haitian law."

Not Bill

The State Department also has ruled out any special role for former President Bill Clinton in a possible release of the Americans.

"It is unnecessary for former President Bill Clinton to play the role of intermediary as he did in North Korea in the case of the journalists being held," Crowley told CNN on Monday. " The situation in North Korea and the situation in Haiti are dramatically different. In Haiti there is a functioning government with which we have diplomatic relations and established channels to monitor and deal with bilateral issues. North Korea is an opaque society with which we have no diplomatic relations."

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/02/09/haiti.clinton.arrests/index.html

FROM THE ARCHIVES "Pizzagate Wiki vs. Robot Army: How a Reddit post about Laura Silsby and Max Maccoby broke the Internet 24 days ago

rebelskum64 in pedogate

Two days ago the Pizzagate Wiki experienced an unprecedented DDoS attack for several continuous hours. At the exact same time the Wiki was experiencing a massive surge in users being directed from a Reddit post on convicted child trafficker Laura Silsby. This makes the fourth major cyberattack against the Pizzagate Wiki following attacks on the original Pizzagate Review, the Wiki's DynCorp page and the Wiki's Stratfor page. In addition to these new users, a huge wave of bots came with them and proceeded to overwhelm the Pizzagate Wiki server, starting with the curiously named, "mj12bot". Apparently mj12bot is part of a United Kingdom search engine founded by Alex Chudnovsky whose mission for MJ12 is this: Since the task of building a World Wide Web search engine is so huge, we have chosen to make Majestic-12 Distributed Search Engine based on the concept of distributed computing. The idea being that many machines work on one task to get it done quicker than one large machine alone. Apparently this "distributed search engine" felt the need to assault my Franklin Scandal, Max Maccoby, Laura Silsby and other pages with thousands upon thousands of 0-byte requests from different IPs. MJ12bot was easy to spot, however, as it was listed and visible in the visitor's "User Agent", and was quickly blocked. In a matter of seconds, however, new bots arrived. Almost a hundred different "ocarinabots", "FAKE USER AGENTS" and various other bizarre User Agents were assaulting the Pizzagate Wiki with similar, 0-byte requests. Curiously enough, for many hours the only users able to connect to the Pizzagate Wiki were from Georgetown, FL. After playing virtual chess with a literal army of robots, I was able to stop the attacks for the time being and users from the Reddit thread were able to see the relevant information they needed for the most part. Why, however, was the link between Laura Silsby and Max Maccoby targeted this time around? For posterity, here is what is written in Max Maccoby's section for the Pizzagate Wiki on Laura Silsby's page, which was the epicenter of the attack: Connection to Max Maccoby and James Achilles Alefantis James Achilles Alefantis is friends with Michael Maccoby. Michael's son, Max Maccoby, is a Director of Friends of the Orphans, the charity Laura Silsby was given children from while in Haiti.(22), (23) , (24) This same Max Maccoby also represented James Achilles Alefantis and David Brock for an $850,000 blackmail case.(25) More details and in-depth analysis on the attack will be published in this week's Rebel Outpost, but I thought it worth mentioning here in case it were to escalate further and actually damage the Pizzagate Wiki. It is unlike any attack I have ever seen in my life, but is clearly from an advanced botnet."

https://steemit.com/pedogate/ @rebelskum/pizzagate-wiki-vs-robot-army-how-a-reddit-post-about-laura-silsby-and-max-mccoby-broke-the-internet



State Department Policy

Kudos to use for posting what the State Department can and cannot do for Americans arrested overseas. This is big key to understanding what went out and is the answer to @DeathToMasonsASAP 's question below

Then why was Huma Abeden sending Hillary email updates of her plight

Providing Consular Services to arrested Americans is one of the highest priorities of the State Department. The page you reference spells this out clearly. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/emergencies/arrest-detention.html

Arrest or Detention of a U.S. Citizen Abroad

One of the highest priorities of the Department of State and U.S. embassies and consulates abroad is to provide assistance to U.S. citizens incarcerated abroad. The Department of State is committed to ensuring fair and humane treatment for U.S. citizens imprisoned overseas. We stand ready to assist incarcerated citizens and their families within the limits of our authority in accordance with international, domestic, and foreign law.

Why Hillary Clinton did not violate State Department Policy

The reason she didn't violate State Department policy is Bill Clinton was not used as a negotiator. (Also I would guess something like that would be a president's decision not just a Secretary of State's, but I don't know.)

The article includes support for its claim including this link: then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton took extraordinary measures, including the deployment of former president Bill Clinton as a negotiator

This takes us to a New Zealand newspaper. https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/the-dominion-post/20100208/281882999485525

This a reprint of an article I mention in my VOAT threads and in comments here. It's from the UK Times https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/clinton-brokers-deal-over-haiti-orphan-abductions-v63ld395r7b

A DIPLOMATIC deal over the 10 American missionaries jailed in Haiti on child abduction charges may lead to the release this week of all except the group's leader, Laura Silsby, according to legal sources in Port-au-Prince

The intervention of Bill Clinton, the former president, who is co-ordinating relief efforts in Haiti, may accelerate the resolution of an affair that has embarrassed the US government, dismayed relief agencies and angered many Haitians.

Here's the thing with the article. It's the only news outlet in the world that made this claim. And it never made the claim again. It dropped the claim a week later when talking about Bill Clinton. I think they simply reported a rumor that their source heard and that rumor turned out to be true. The rumor being based on few things.

Bill Clinton turned up in Haiti....(He was actually working with the UN. He had been the Special Envoy to Haiti since 2009 and after the earthquake the UN asked him "to assume a leadership role in coordinating international aid efforts."

Most of the Baptists were about to get out of jail.....but not Silsby. This is because the Haitian authorities felt that Silsby was clearly behind all these and the other Baptists pretty much followed along when she said she had things taken care of.

The original news report is wrong and here's why I believe that.

It's based on a single report in the UK press https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/clinton-brokers-deal-over-haiti-orphan-abductions-v63ld395r7b

No other news reports have this. The UK press didn't claim this is a secret effort on behalf of Bill Clinton. An actual diplomatic intervention would have been reported by multiple sites if it actually happened. Haitian newspapers would have been all over this. The international press would be all over this.

The paper that reported it never followed up on it at all. So the original report had no confirmation and zero follow through.

The Clinton quotes they used were reported by other outlets 2 days before. Clinton openly spoke to reporters about what the US and Haitian governments should do. He never claimed anything first hand or that he was working on a deal and not a single other source claimed he was intervening in any way. In fact, in CNN's report on it, Bill Clinton doesn't even appear until 22 paragraphs in. http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/05/haiti.arrests/index.html

There was no press conference about having a reached a deal. Again this was not reported to be a secret deal.

Bill Clinton left Haiti with all the Baptists were in jail.

The Obama adminstration and the State Department were being criticized in the conservative press and by Baptist leaders FOR NOT INTERVENING. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/feb/08/free-the-baptist-10-in-haiti/

Even with this the State Department went out of its way to say it was not intervening and Secretary Clinton would not be getting involved at all.

At the time, no other media even did a story following up on the The Times's report. This happens all the time when papers confirm another a paper's reporting. They do not do a followup story when their sources cannot confirm this. And reporters from around the world were on this story for months.

Nothing in the 7 plus years since the Haitian earthquake suggests this was true and the Clintons, of course came under intense scrutiny during this time. Haiti's AP reporter who worked this story stayed in Haiti for years writing a book and never had anything on this.

In short, there's nothing at all to suggest the Times got their story right. And there's a lot to suggest they got their story wrong, including the fact that they never even followed up on their story. The writer of the Paper relied on them and did not do original research/reporting into this.

I think it's safe to say that both of the Clintons knew who Laura Silsby was.

The pizzagate claim is that Clintons knew who Laura Silsby was BEFORE she was arrested and became one of the biggest news stories on the planet. The argument is Clinton only became involved because she was personally involved with Silsby. I have shown this is false.

Did I Cheeseboogersghost about being a Jew or do you mean ping him to tell him about Are_we_sure?

Omg I’ve pinged the hell out of Cheeseboogersghost. Me and @Shizy destroyed that punk! 😂 I’ve left him alone for a couple of weeks because he took my advice when I said that I would leave him alone if he left me alone.

I made this of Cheeseboogersghost and he would go ballistic when I would post it! That’s what he gets for calling me a Jewess. 🤣

Are_we_sure practically admitted he’s a Jew. He also thinks we should trust him over Q, so I made something for him too. Hmmm, should I believe the resident shill Are_we_sure or Q?

They aren’t very thrilled with me! LOL

I’m not trying to prove you wrong. I just know you are extremely biased and a shill. You seem to always have an excuse for these sick fucks. What is your opinion of Hillary??