BeTidy

There is another aspect to this story. Musk has stated the water level was low enough that the boys could have been swum out, yet the public were put through an incredible TV drama with boys carried to Ambulances and held in isolation from their families. There is a previous example where such a drama was made up for the public over a mine rescue, and it turned out to be slick state PR. That's what I see going on here, and accidentally or otherwise, the story is being unravelled by Musk.

A similar drama was attempted in a mine rescue in Australia, where two miners had been trapped underground for weeks. In that case the authorities wanted to paint the miners as hapless little victims at deaths door that they would carry out on stretchers, very similar to how the boys were treated. They wanted to drug the miners up before they took them out, and rushed them to isolation in hospital. In that case miners were perfectly fine to walk out on their own, and just wanted to see their families, and certainly did not want a stay in isolation or hospital.

An Australia doctor told them (perhaps the same guy flown in to drug up the boys?) that they had to be carried out in front of cameras on stretchers. The two miners refused and said they were walking out, and the doctor told them that if they did not submit that he would forcibly drug them into submission. One of the miners made it clear he would give the doctor a hiding, and they walked out leaving the medical workers behind, no doubt to the surprise and disappointment of government PR guys.

I see much of the Thai rescue as publicity making much of the helplessness of the boys, and the genius of the authorities. The parents were not allowed to see the boys, and the boys who were perfectly capable of walking and essentially in good shape were made out to be helpless victims who would need rescuing by the "experts". They were drugged up, and then carted out on stretchers in front of the cameras to waiting ambulances.

What if Musk is right, that those boys didn't even have to dive to get out in the end, but could have been swum out? It paints the whole rescue operation as a PR stunt. That is news that authorities cannot possibly allow to come out. Musk has bitten off more than he can chew here, and will be reigned in. This illusion of helpless victims, useless families, and "experts" saving the day appears to me to be a repeating psy-op.

Conspirologist

Apparently Musk deleted his Tweet, or you gave a broken link.

DeathToMasonsASAP

Is that what spook baby Musk said?

CheeseboogersGhost

Those jews love Thailand and other known pedo spots. There's a jewtuber who lives there by the name of 108morriss108. I asked him straight up if he was a pedo on Live Leak. If I remember correctly he deleted his account there.

Aasb

MSM is all over him about this. No one asks why he said it. Is he really that stupid? I think he got triggered by diver Unsworths statement that he can stick his submarine where it hurts and that its just a PR stunt.. which of course can be true.. but Musk was like: ok Team, make a background check on this guy and I'll come back at him* otherwise, who would be so stupid to call the "hero" of this story a pedo?

think-

Is he really that stupid?

Yes. LOL. I think this was the first insult that came to his mind when he read the diver's tweet, and so he just tweeted it as a reply.

Imo it's been only a wild guess, but then of course he might be a pedo, considering how many British pedos are to be found in Thailand. It's worthwhile looking into this, but we'd better be careful not to jump to conclusions too early.

@Blacksmith21 @Vindicator @ben_matlock @EricKaliberhall @Honeybee_

DeathToMasonsASAP

Stop blaming Thailand for pedos,,, It's AMERICA 1st and foremost. You guys do not stop with the limited hangout shit.

think-

.....says the troll who told both Donkey and Are_We_Sure 'one day we will drink'...

Stop blaming Thailand for pedos? Are you mad? Ever got out of your backwater village?

DeathToMasonsASAP

America is the pedo capital of the world. Thailand is a place where children are traficked, the customers are from America more than anywhere in the world. Meghans law website Orange County california. Go give it a spit, it is outrageous. The entire county are pedos. Are_We_Sure and Donkey are less tedious than the idiots in here promoting Trump, Q, and not knowing what the fuck Elon Musk is. You guys are still sheeple and they are worse than the occultis. Sheeple need to go and i love agenda 21 for this reason. Make sure you have wireless, and make sure you have a smart meter. Your special cupcake, and you might be going away. And I'm cool with that. Your dead weight.

ben_matlock

I can't imagine him being so stupid as to publicly accuse a newly-minted international 'hero' a pedo if it weren't true. then again, I couldn't imagine him doing that if it were true either.. 🤔🤔 🤷

think-

I can't imagine him being so stupid as to publicly accuse a newly-minted international 'hero' a pedo if it weren't true.

Too much self-confidence - looking at Musk here - sometimes leads to doing stupid things.

Not saying it's impossible that he's right, just pointing out that this seems to have been a kind of spotaneous answer to the guys' tweet about Musk's offer to provide a submarine.

Blacksmith21

I agree. Musk is way too smart to hurl insults without any proof or backup to the statement.

think-

Idolize much? ;-) Musk is smart, but he is also full of himself.

He admitted that he's into mixing alcohol and ambien. Two of the side effects: confusion and dizziness ...

@Vindicator

Blacksmith21

I don't idolize anyone. Musk is an intriguing dude.

goodguy1367

Well.. It's started. Elon's "attack" on the British diver has hit MSM in Australia sooo safe to say there is a whole lot more to this story..

realityisinsanity

This reminds of the strange circumstances that surrounded those Chilean miners in 2010. The elite love their tunnels and caves for rituals.

pinklb_q

anyone that spends time with kids/teens in this capacity- taking them to scenic plates, playing around in new places, etc, is a pedophile. if they don’t have a specific function with restrictions (tour guide, coach) chances are they’re making sexual passes at your children.

dslkfaskd

How the fuck was a soccer team miles deep in a cave?

carmencita

Smart deduction. Really, I'd like to hear the answer to that one. There really is no reason. Totally Suspicious.

cantfindmenow

Weird. I also found it weird that none of the kids were allowed to see family once rescued. They were 'being kept away from their parents for a while' something to do with having suspected infections. I find that 'sus'. Were people ensuring they were getting all their stories straight first? If infections are an issue then doctors and nurses will be wearing protective equipment/clothing. Why couldn't the parents just wear the same gear to see their sons they're obviously so desperate to see? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/09/parents-rescued-thai-boys-told-no-hugging-kissing-health-checks/

Factfinder2

Excellent point.

talmoridor-x

Does ((((Elon))) project much?

DeathToMasonsASAP

upvoat

NeoDankZer

Was Musk just there at the wrong time and 'they' didn't like that and started to attack him in the media?

7e62ce85

Elon has had a mark on his back since he talked about Pravda.

EyeOfHorus

that twitter is deleted, any screen shot

Factfinder2

The expat British caver Vernon Unsworth called his British caver friends to help with the rescue. Now they are being rewarded with a one-week vacation and a "Thailand Elite" membership that includes a five-year travel visa: https://coconuts.co/bangkok/news/travel-package-gifted-international-rescuers-gratitude-cave-mission/

"The Thailand Elite program usually charges a whopping THB520,000 (US$15,600) for the five-year visa. Some of the privileges includes VIP-expedited airport services and immigration formalities, access to a number of golf clubs, and discounts for spas and shopping."

Unsworth's friends are Richard William Stanton , Robert Charles Harper , and John Volanthen . They should also be researched.

septimasexta

Great info! "First on the scene was Vernon Unsworth, who is from St Albans but now lives in Thailand."

St. Alban's seems to have a reputation....

"Moment pervert, 51, is confronted by paedophile hunters outside a railway station after he arranged to meet a 13-year-old girl for sex David Metcalfe arrived at St Albans thinking he was meeting a 13-year-old However the teen was fictitious and a part of an elaborate sting operation While standing outside the station, he was filmed by 'paedophile hunters' St Albans Crown Court heard he'd also spoken to other fake underage girls " http://www.daily mail.co.uk/news/article-3825107/Paedophile-snared-paedophile-hunters-outside-railway-station.html

SCANDAL IN ST ALBANS http://archive.church society.org/crossway/documents/Cway_093_Scandal.pdf

"Paedophile ring headed by a senior Anglican priest forced children at a boys' home to have group sex in a locked room - and cut them to symbolise 'the blood of Christ' A paedophile ring used an Anglican boys home to abuse children St Alban's Home in Newcastle was also used to gain access to the boys Priest Peter Rushton is said to be the head of the paedophile ring A two week hearing is being conducted by the Royal commission Paul Gray testified to being raped by Rushton when he was 10" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3719197/Paedophile-ring-headed-senior-Anglican-clergyman-abused-children-St-Albans-School-Boys-Hunter-Valley.html

MUSK DOUBLES DOWN ON HIS TWEETS: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5955753/British-caver-helped-save-Thai-boys-says-Elon-Musk-stick-submarine-hurt.html

septimasexta

BACKGROUND INFO ON COACH IS QUITE INTERESTING: "Stateless" "Schooled as a monk" "no passport" from "Golden Triangle" (big drug/opium area) " – a lawless wedge of land bisecting Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and China. "

Why did parents entrust their children to this sketchy guy? If it howls like a coyote.......

"KITI NEWS Published on Jul 11, 2018

Mae Sai, Thailand: Schooled as a monk and now hailed a hero, football coach Ekkapol Chantawong is one of several stateless members of the “Wild Boars”, a team whose survival after days trapped in a flooded Thai cave fixated a country that does not recognise them as citizens. Coach Ek, the 25-year-old who was among the last to emerge from the cave on Tuesday, has been lauded for keeping the the young footballers – aged 11-16 – calm as starvation loomed in the dark.

He was the only adult with the boys when they entered the cave on June 23 until they were found nine days later by British divers on a muddy bank deep inside the cave complex. As he awaited his turn to undertake the dangerous exit from the Tham Luang complex, Thais on the outside celebrated him as a modest, devout and duty-bound member of the Mae Sai community."

"The UNHCR says Thailand is home to around 480,000 stateless people.

Many are from nomadic hill tribes and other ethnic groups who have for centuries lived around Mae Sai, the heart of ‘Golden Triangle’ – a lawless wedge of land bisecting Thailand, Myanmar, Laos and China.

– ‘No nationality. No country’ –

Among the stateless are Ek and three of the boys who were trapped in the cave alongside him – Dul, Mark and Tee – the founder of the Wild Boars club Nopparat Khanthavong told AFP.

“To get nationality is the biggest hope for the boys… in the past these boys have problems travelling to play matches outside of Chiang Rai,” he added, because of travel restrictions that accompanies their lack of status.

Without passports they are unlikely to be able to take up the invite from Manchester United FC to visit next season." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVkgNSJJFSQ

Factfinder2

You're right. St. Albans seems to be one of the cesspools:

Police investigating 30 years of alleged physical and sexual abuse against children and young adults being treated in mental health unit of a hospital in St. Albans: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/children-mental-health-unit-sexual-abuse-physical-assault-40-years-hill-end-hospital-adolescent-st-a8046771.html

Ex-employee of St Albans school convicted of possessing child porn: http://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/ex-employee-of-st-albans-school-convicted-of-possessing-child-porn-1-3989020

And more... https://theukdatabase.com//?s=st+alban&search=Go

Mad_As_Hell

Also this https://www.breitbart.com/london/2018/02/14/plot-rape-dissolve-girls-acid-court/

Muthukumarana, who the court heard handed ‘Donna’ the details of a leisure centre in St. Albans where the child abuse could take place during the night, is also accused of urging the undercover officer take drugs or alcohol before carrying out an attack because “it makes you extra heartless”.

Factfinder2

I think the key to Musk's thinking is in this tweet: https://imgoat.com/uploads/def184ad8f/124257.png

He finds it suspicious that a male Brit decides to retire in Thailand (a known child sex tourism mecca) and labels it " sus ."

That was my first thought too when I learned about this guy, but so far I haven't found anything to substantiate it. Could just be that he was a spelunker drawn to the cave systems in Thailand.

septimasexta

ELON MUSK MAKES A NON-APOLOGY:

"Musk tweeted Wednesday that "his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone." " https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/07/18/elon-musk-apologizes-thai-cave-rescue-diver/794873002/

Musk never said his WORDS were not truthful..... Now he has researchers alerted.

Factfinder2

A very good point. If I were Musk, I'd hire pros with the tools to dig deep.

I'd like to know whether Vernon Unsworth is related to now-dead guru Mark Anthony Unsworth aka Maitreya Ishwara, a disciple of sex cult leader Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh and former resident of his infamous city in Oregon, Rajneeshpuram. Vernon was born in Lancashire and Mark in neighboring Cheshire.

Maitreya Ishwara, "born to a middle-class English family in Widnes, Cheshire": http://sannyasnews.org/now/archives/2037

Vernon Unsworth, " Lancashire-born financial broker": http://www.newsround247.com/tom-leonard-elon-musks-attack-on-british-hero-of-thai-cave-rescue-may-shred-his-reputation/

merica_fk_yeah

thing is, he may have been one of the ones who has hidden his proclivities well and never been caught... so maybe there is no dirt on him, but the story of these kids and how they got in this cave is so strange it is suspect

Factfinder2

I agree. See my other comments in this thread. Also, Unsworth lives near the cave.

Meet the seven British divers playing leading roles in the Thai cave rescue mission: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/09/meet-seven-british-divers-playing-leading-roles-thai-cave-rescue/

"First on the scene was Vernon Unsworth, who is from St Albans but now lives in Thailand.

Mr Unsworth, an experienced diver who now lives close to the caves, was crucial in persuading Thai authorities to bring in UK expertise."

Warnos44

Why no one asks him why he said this or if he has proof? Instead instantly jump on the shame on you, you're an idiot who's going to be sued, calling his GOP donations a scandal...

Seriously, he's considered one of the smartest people but everyone thinks he's just butt hurt over the rescue?

People are so bizarre and lack brains.

Are_we__sure

Smart people don't get emotional and lash out in the middle of an argument with someone? Emotional people in the middle of an argument don't lash out with anything they can use?

I have no doubt that Elon Musk is incredibly smart. But this is not his discipline, not something he has studied.

I also think that Elon Musk is a bit thin skinned.

Also the cave divers actually got the kids out. Something that required a lot of smarts to do.

We have smart people on both sides here. We shouldn't be surprised when one smart person gets it wrong.

DeathToMasonsASAP

He is a CIA asset as is Jeff Bezos. Musk has no talent, no ability, and exposed himself yet again as the hack fraud that he is. CEO's don't carry on like that. He is a front, a phony. Yeah, we are going to colonize inhabitable Mars in 20 years. Elon can't get anything out of low orbit, knows nothing about science, never made a dime, company losses 100's of billions for a decade, bankers buy his stock to prop his cash bleeding company up. Elon Musk, laugh my ass off.

Are_we__sure

You're exhibiting the conspiracist's tendency to overreact. Perhaps Musk is overrated, and deserving of criticism. But this is not valid criticism, you're going 100 miles in the opposite direction, where he not only has no talent, but somebody else is responsible for his success and it's all a show.

This is the conspiracists view of the mainstream media as well. It's not they deserve criticism for specific issues, it's every single thing they say should be rejected and they all work as one. There are people on here who reject a news report about a press conference from yesterday. It's really a ridiculous view. It's certainly not a healthy skepticism.

DeathToMasonsASAP

Stop with labeling people "Conspiracist" and "Birthers" and other CIA wordspeak triggering phrases. Musk is connected to CIA's IN-Q-TEL. He has no space program. You are being a noob on this one. MUSK is deep state bullshit. Again, loses billions every year and is funded indefinitely, like CNN and NYT. Bad ratings, no subscribers, never go out of business. They serve a propaganda purpose, like MUSK serves an agenda purpose of the CIA's venture capital arm. Sop with Musk, it is like pushing Alex Jones, he is entry level awareness territory.

Are_we__sure

Stop with labeling people "Conspiracist" and "Birthers"

No.

This board is filled with what psychologists call Conspiracy Ideation. Conspiracist is a perfectly fine word. It's a person who supports a conspiracy theory.

I don't think I routinely call people Birthers.....I would more likely go with Birchers if I was speaking generally, but the Birther conspiracy theory is perfect example of conspiracist thinking because to actually embrace the Birther theory you have to convince yourself of a conspiracy spanning decades. Conspiracists would rather keep expanding their conspiracy to absurd lengths than admit the initial conclusion was wrong.

Oh_Well_ian

you fake fuck... when have you ever admitted you were wrong in this sub?

NEVER

DeathToMasonsASAP

Fuck you Ian. He is a known shill, but does better work than you. If you two are the same person, take a shot, you got me.

Oh_Well_ian

It really is stunning how far your credibility has fallen since I called you out in Pizzagate about 10 months ago.

Given time, the TRUTH has an amazing way of exposing limited hangout artists like yourself.

Are_we__sure

Have you ever shown a single instance where I was?

(and I have)

Syndicalism

I have been wondering ever since the story broke if this was a play by Q team or similar interest.Thai kids trapped underground. Too closely tied to the themes of PG. Was this a push for public awareness? Will we find out something else about it? Its really been bothering me.

derram

https://archive.fo/Huzn4 :

Elon Musk on Twitter: "You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it.… t.co/tart1CkGYh"

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Oh_Well_ian

Interesting, because this entire story smelled fishy from start to finish... @Blacksmith21

IIJOSEPHXII

The amount of coverage is totally inappropriate. I think there's a kompromat going on here and a lot of British pedos are watching the coverage praying they don't talk, while the deep state media possibly blackmails them.

goodguy1367

Yea I also felt something was off about it as well.. I first thought they were being taken there to be traded or sold to someone? Then maybe our beloved Mother Earth has stepped in and said "sorry, not happening today"

Magonia

That’s a genuinely interesting theory! I’ve been watching this show ‘Zoo’ on Netflix (stay with me here) about the animal kingdom turning on humanity because their DNA is mutating and now the animals are attacking our technology and can even cause natural disasters. The mutated animals all have something the show calls a “defiant pupil”.

BUT you guys in this sub may know it as coloboma...

It changed the way the animals perceived threats. Who is a friend and who is an enemy.

I know it’s just a show but I haven’t stopped thinking about it and how they use symbolism in media. I genuinely think you’re on to something with that line of thinking.

nzmc

you can talk with plants or animals, they are intelligent, there is also some kind of source field or information field that manages things like thoughs, move of birds, weather and so on, all is interconnected just need to tune in

goodguy1367

Cool, thanks for the info! I'll have to check out this series, sounds pretty interesting..Could this be part of disclosure? I mean, funny there's a show on Netflix that talks about animals with this condition when it's something thats been discussed heavily here.. hmmm

Factfinder2

It does smell fishy.

Missing Thai soccer team known for adventures together: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/06/26/missing-thai-soccer-team-known-for-adventures-together.html

"The constant excursions, however, had become an issue for Thinnakorn Boonpiam, whose 13-year-old son, Mongkol, is among those missing. He said his son would regularly come home as late as 9 p.m., sometimes joining his coach and teammates on adventures that included swimming in waterfalls and riding their bicycles into Myanmar.

"I have asked my son to leave the team several times, but he wouldn't," Thinnakorn said. "I suppose he enjoys these activities."

While he said he was sure the coach was "a great person," he still felt his son was too young to be going on such trips with just one adult."

Oh_Well_ian

there is the whole 12 + 1 aspect, too.. 'Prophet and disciples'?

Syndicalism

Yup, I quietly contemplated this from the start. Underground Thai kids... Too close to home for PG smuggling. Was this a tactic to push for public awareness? Already a movie planned...

Madwack

Agenda Free TV is reporting...steve lookner is on it!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV-bhwX-amM

septimasexta

After reading the article ( 5:44), it sounds like this may be how some pedos in the area operate. We know they like tunnels and caves. The 25 year old "soccer coach" grooms them and gets them into the cave at the agreed time. The Brit pedo cavers happen to show up (remember the caver had "reserved" that day). He then called on all his "other" caver friends to help rescue. It is decided to turn it into a big rescue operation, and they show up with their ready "expertise" and become "heroes". 12 boys would be worth a bit. The kicker is the "one-week vacation and a "Thailand Elite" membership that includes a five-year travel visa." In my opinion, as a Pizzagate researcher, THIS SOUNDS PLAUSIBLE.

Madwack

Craig sawyer went there and shot a video of himself talking, and talking......but he looked down and the camera shot upwards at the ceiling.

Who the F shoots a video like that unless you don't want people to see whats actually around you..... https://youtu.be/0UKr4FfX9o8

  • his video's are nothing but...talk.....at the range.....talking....talking.....at the range.

carmencita

As usual your assessment of the situation is First Rate. What a perfect plan. And now they have groomed the entire world. This must be exposed, for many people were given that Aw Isn't that a nice feeling, by MSM and they played right along. The Sick Freaks think they cooked up the best scenario ever. I watched it like everyone else, but I had a funny feeling something was not right, and yes the fact that the boys were so different in age and also the father of one boy saying his son went on outings with this adult by himself, well that is Pretty Sketchy.

Blacksmith21

This makes sense ^^^. I would guess that guy was more like the main operations guy. One of his coyotes got lost. Dead Thai SEAL got in the way maybe? This could be part of a massive trafficking network and Unsworth was sent in for clean-up. Or it was part of a distraction operation. It got a ton of airtime here in the US.

sunajAeon

How is it a SEAL dies in this basic operation?

Blacksmith21

Cave diving is extremely dangerous. Rescue diving moreso. Or the SEAL discovered more nefarious underpinnings and they short loaded an O2 tank and got rid of him.

sunajAeon

I'm a diver-I could have done this, it wasn't that complicated, and a SEAL knows how to do it-or at least NOT to do something that will kill him-doesn't add up

Blacksmith21

Musk said the first P trap was passable without SCUBA. I believe him. Possible other passages passable without air assist as well.

sunajAeon

I'm gonna have to eat a little crow and back-track, Looking at a video of the cave- 1.5 mi long, zero visibility, turbulent water/currents-shit this is the cave system from hell, now that I see a physical representation of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g_-agsDW5o

Blacksmith21

I always appreciate when someone takes the time and interest to revise their positions. Few around here do, LOL.

Cave diving is about the riskiest sport there is. I've been diving and I've been caving and never shall the twain meet.

I still don't get how they survived 10 days no food, no clothing, pitch black, unknown water quality, hygiene, hypothermia, insanity (real deal)...

Factfinder2

Exactly. And of such a basic thing as running out of air . Not believable.

septimasexta

The amount of air time alone made me suspicious.

Womb_Raider

This makes no sense. What is the end goal? The team received so much publicity that they are untouchable. I don't think your hypothesis holds water.

septimasexta

"The team received so much publicity that they are untouchable" That's the goal for the pedos. I think this is a result of a plan gone wrong, and an attempt (successful) to turn it around. Unsworth already had approved access to the cave before the surprise flash flood. This would have messed up their theorized pre-planned tryst in the cave. The 12 (valuable) boys were assumed to be trapped in there (perhaps the "coach" had radio contact with him?) With missing boys, parents and police now became involved. The perfect cover and remedy is to become the hero, along with your other cave buddies. Kids recovered, original pedo tryst covered, great PR and a free 5-year Travel Visa- WIN-WIN! Now, why would a high profile billionaire with a high tech sub be squeezed out of the rescue attempt and he then goes on twitter and very publicly refers to the "hero" as a PEDO? DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

Womb_Raider

CAPS DOESN'T MAKE YOU MORE CORRECT, NOR DOES DOWNVOATING.

Have some couth.

Factfinder2

My thoughts exactly.