Pretty disturbing how successful the gaslighting has been. ( pizzagate )

submitted by doolord

That one New York times article and the deletion of the first subreddit is what killed the growth and momentum of this investigation. It's been two years since Besta Pizza. Two years since Alefantis and the Instagram findings. And two years since they buried everything.

If you bring pizzagate up to a lot of people, the first thing they think about is the bullshit they heard in that article, and whatever they heard about the faux shooter.

"Isn't that the thing where people believe Hillary Clinton was running a child sex organization out of the basement of a pizza parlor."

Or

"Are you one of those Pizzagate crazies that shot up that poor man's pizza place because of some dumb conspiracy theory?"

Look up pizzagate. First things you get are the "Pizzagate Conspiracy Theory" article on Wikipedia, the New York times article, some Snopes bullshit, some John Oliver and Colbert bullshit, and a bunch of other stuff to control the situation. It's fucked, but it worked because here we are two years later and nothing has changed. In fact I think we're in a terrible position right now.

Vindicator

@doolord , v/pizzagate is a research subverse; we don't allow meta posts and unsourced discussion. You're welcome to do that on our anything goes subverse, v/pizzagatewhatever . Removing per Rule 4.

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Podge512

This is why, in all honesty, most of my submissions have been provable examples of either historical elite paedophilia or examples of the concerted effort of media, entertainment and academia to normalise child rape. I believe these examples are useful tools in redpilling those who dismiss Pizzagate as a 'conspiracy theory'.

Factfinder2

Chin up and press on. Tell them how the shooter just "happened" with one bullet to shoot through a door lock and into a computer tower, just "happening" to hit and supposedly destroy the hard drive: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2603679

septimasexta

THEY ARE RUNNING SCARED

That VOAT post got 3,806 views! WHY? People are still curious about this incident and the "pizzagate" name. Read ALL of my comments there. I DEBUNKED THEIR FF STORY. It is impossible to construct a non-conflicting time line based on MSM "witnesses" and police report facts. No one witnessed Welsh shooting the gun. Most early reports do not mention anyone hearing a gunshot. Is that why so many views? Any MSM mention/ reporting on this TOPIC brings up MANY AWAKE, REDPILLED COMMENTS.

Factfinder2

Your research is meticulous and a giant red pill for anyone who reads it. Needs to be more accessible, though, instead of buried in comments. Agree people are still curious. The time is ripe for this element of the PG investigation to catch fire again.

On top of everything else, the lawyer Sharif Silmi screams plant to me:

"Silmi says his family stopped by Comet Ping Pong as part of a day trip to Chevy Chase that also included plans to stop by Politics & Prose and the Little Red Fox bakery, Comet Ping Pong’s neighboring businesses on its homey block of Connecticut Ave., Northwest, which have caught some spillover flak from Pizzagate conspiracy theorists." https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/04/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-comet-ping-pong/

Who plans a day trip with the kids at these specific businesses next to Comet? Even if he was just a "Pizzagate tourist" (he didn't say he was), that still begs the question how he came to be in Comet at exactly the right moment to be able to control the narrative by providing his "eye witness" spin to the media. Whiff test flunked, imo.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Doolord That's why You should stop calling it pizzagate. Don't even Call It pedo Gate. Just Talk about the current events. Been trying to explain this but There will always be those who defend the name in A reply. But I agree there Are many aspects That are disturbing about this Despite the shit name. But There are a lot of promising things as well. Most of which Is not posted On Voat for some reason.

doolord

No but Pizzagate is real too. I admit it was badly named, but I don't want people to dismiss this. They have to know it's real.

EffYouJohnPodesta

We were doing ok before 90% of the people here revealed themselves as Cointel Pro and started diverting attention to 95% fake crap and Q. Now we're just screwed.

jewd_law

I agree with you, however, the only way forward in light of this is to start pointing out the predominantly jewish over-representation in child sex trafficking, SRA, illegal pornography, and human trafficking at the highest levels. There are players from other ethnicities, but they are not at the helm. I guarantee you that most of these shills are JIDF or jews in our alphabet agencies. These parasites are still allowed to (((legally))) mutilate the genitals of gentile children. They are the problem.

EffYouJohnPodesta

Alphabet Agencies = Q anon.

notagame

Not sure where you're getting that we're in a terrible position.

The dismissal gives us free rein. You don't see them bothered by only screaming, "RUSSIAN COLLUSION!" and "RACIST NAZI!"

That's what they're down to. Deiifying Mueller and Comey.. Plus there's all that criminality they have to contain. Plus plus the income lost from not being able to ship around that "art" in cardboard boxes and sex traffic at will.

I like our position better.

TurdSlinger

Bothers me when Alex Jones says it was a honeypot. Total bullshit. JA deflected pretty good with that hired shooter it seems. Pizzagate is real

Oh_Well_ian

At this point, you should be well prepared if you encounter either of those questions.

That is some low hanging fruit for any legitimate PG researcher.

downwithpizzaelite

But James Alefantis' IG profile picture at the same time as all that was a literal monument to pederasty. That trumps everything..

pizzagateisreal

Thorshamster

Remind people that Mark Thompson was the head of the BBC until Jimmy Savile died. He covered up for that monster. Pulled a documentary that exposed Savile as Britain’s most prolific serial pedophile, and possible child murderer. He covered all that shit up. Then he fled to the US to become the president of the New York Times Company.

And then the New York Times ran the bogus debunk.

They have a pattern of this kind of thing.

PrideOfOshtekk

Mark Thompson is a paedophile. There is no need to claim that he was only "covering it up".

fuckmyreddit

I was just starting to follow the pizza subreddit when it was shut down, hence my pissed off user name. Fortunately I saw something about voat before the sub was pulled. Do we have an alternate site if it happens here?

carmencita

There's been gaslighting alright. But we are still here. We also have almost tripled our membership since I started almost 1.5 yrs. ago. It was at over 6K at that time. People come and go here but they are reading our posts. Also some tabloids and sites are as well, as many of us have seen when our posts make it on to their sites. AND even though we has been heavy shill-lighting also lately, we are on to them and some really great users have warned us with a list of their names. We are working together to keep fighting them off and I think it is working. So I do not feel so down about our success. Just look at the memes on twitter. They are Awesome!

MAC712

It would be more terrible EXCEPT thankfully there is a very large and growing number of us here in the US and internationally who know of the lying, scumbag, gaslighting garbage perpetrated on us by: the MSM including TV and publications on and offline, and all social media platforms (FB and Google, YouTube and Twitter). Our big pluses are Q and what Q has reminded us of....... and that is ....... God wins.