pby1000

Strange how all the "anti-Jew" faggots, like Hagen19, are deleting all their comments. I think they secretly suck Jewish cock, and this is why they are so hostile towards them.

I will ask everybody here since Hagen19 is to much of a pussy to respond.

How long has Judaism been around?

Crensch

Understanding how they, the elite think, is paramount to winning....watch and learn. This rabbi outs them all.

No. PG people are doing just fine outing the pedophiles. You very obviously do not belong here.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wcmWbEgARMs

FORTY SEVEN FUCKING MINUTES. You want someone here to waste 47 minutes on a username 10 months old with less than 150 contribution points? YOU ARE NOT WORTH THAT TIME. Acting as if you are is suspicious.

You're not even making a claim here, you're telling people to watch the whole damn thing to "learn". Go fuck yourself.

In the interview, Rabbi Marvin Antelman, disturbed by a book he read by Anthony Sutton called Wallstreet and the Rise of Hitler he began his own investigation. He soon realized, not only was Sutton correct, the picture was much bleaker than reported. He uncovered a huge luciferian element hiding within Judism.

NOBODY CARES. Stop with the fucking storytelling. Make a goddamn claim and support it.

Like the Jesuits, who hide behind Christianity, these cult are all connected.

TWO claims that you don't support, and you have yet to link these to ANYTHING pedophile-related. TRY HARDER, SHILL.

These groups believe in holy sin including the following: Incest Pedophilia Wife swapping Lying Pretending to be another religion ie. Judism and yelling anti Semite if rebuked Defrauding Murder Genocide

Why do you misspell "Judaism"? It seems like you're a Jew trying to not say the exact word. Also, this sentence makes no goddamn sense.

This is why Pizzagate is happening, generational satanic, luciferian and freemasonic ideology - and why it is covered up all the way up to the queen herself who is head of the order of garter. Check out how many police, lawyers, politicians, CIA, fb I, doctors, and executives are Freemasons. That how big this problem is.

CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM CLAIM no evidence.

And no, that 47 minutes of my life up there you will NOT get from me. It is YOUR job to present the evidence for EACH claim here, and you haven't done that. Hand-waving me to an encyclopedia or a 45 minute video is NOT support for your position.

For those that want to read Antelman's book, vol. one only, it is in the Jewish collection on archive.org they are now out of print since his death.

You haven't given anyone any reason to give a shit about this book. Not a single person will read it because of your words. Did you think that if you just believe in yourself people will give a shit about what you have to say? I don't know where you came from, but this is Voat, and we have standards well above what you seem capable of producing.

Other people who have written extensively on the Sabbatean/Frankist/luciferian agenda are Dr. Henry Makow, Barry Chamish, Anthony Sutton and many, many others.

Nobody. Not ONE person cares. Not one. You have provided NOTHING of value here.

This is not a Jewish agenda, it is a Zionist and luciferian agenda...there is a difference, unfortunately many do not understand the history, or the heart of this issue.

And nobody made it this far to care if you'll actually explain or support your position for once.

The elite hit us by corrupting religion, goverment, (including courts, police officers, military officers) and banking...three pronged.

So much horseshit. You should thank the other mods for not banning you already. You are nothing but a waste of time, oxygen, and carbon.

Holy fucking hell the rest of your post is so stupid it's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for you.

@Vindicator , I don't know what rule this actually abides by, to be quite honest. It violates 1 at multiple levels, 2 consistently, 3 because it only describes his 47 minute video that nobody will watch because who gives a fuck and it's not PG anway.

I suppose one could argue that it abides by 4, 5, and 6, but who gives a shit at this point.

Vindicator

Thanks, Crensch. @Agent999 , I am removing per the board owner's comments, which confirm my view of this post as well.

sore_ass_losers

There was an interesting Oprah segment in the 80's by a woman Rachel (aka Vicki Polin & Shauna Green) who claimed she had been abused all her life by her upper middle class Jewish family. It's often alleged that her family was in some sort of Sabbatean/Frankist cult, hence the title posted for this video:

https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=864P-FWZXdo

I found a transcript I'll post as a comment to this, so you don't have to watch Oprah.

Here's a good discussion about her by a Luke Ford (heard the name; don't know who he is). After the show Oprah was forced to apologize for her anti-semiticism in airing such a segment.

http://www.lukeford.net/profiles/profiles/vicki_polin.htm

She started a website The Awareness Project, The International Jewish Coalition Against Sexual Assault. That's an interesting coincidence, as I just found their pages on Zvi and Frank, they are very good, well-written, researched and informative for those interested in these cults. They don't however contain any specific child abuse allegations.

https://theawarenesscenter.blogspot.com/2007/05/case-of-sabbatai-zevi.html

http://theawarenesscenter.blogspot.com/2006/06/case-of-jacob-frank-and-frankist.html

3141592653

I totally remember that episode

Agent999

I looked all day for that video...but like the hook tube one only a snippet of the interview exists. The entire show was available, but no longer. They remove them and now this incomplete version remains. Such a shame because I believe she names the Frankist and goes into the difference between regular Jewish observers and Frankist who pretend to be Jewish and then do horrific thing on special days. Angels by day...Devils by night. Thank you for posting that.

sore_ass_losers

Here's Henry Makow, who you mentioned in the OP, on Vicki Polin:

https://www.henrymakow.com/incest_survivor_lifted_veil_on.html

sore_ass_losers

Ooh, I love my -1's. Thank you, must be hitting a nerve.

sore_ass_losers

On the Luke Ford site there's a link to a transcript that appears to be a Xeroxed paper transcript, very official-looking, so possibly from the show itself. That might include more information.

I recall she said something about her family going back to the 1700's, often taken to be an allusion to the time of Jacob Frank. Yet the Ford site claimes she later revised this to 1800's. Also as I mentioned her Awareness site pages on Zvi and Frank don't mention the kind of ritual abuse she claimed.

So it's definite historically Zvi was a fake Muslim and Frank was a fake Christian, researchers infer and claim these cult followers later on posed as non-cult Jews.

sore_ass_losers

@Agent999

I did look at that Xeroxed transcript, seems official with copyright by Harpo productions at the end. There's no specific mention of Frankists. I did find this interesting, on page six Polin says she read a book lately that ties in with her experience. It looks like the transcript has been xeroxed so many times, particularly that page, that the title is illegible.

http://www.lukeford.net/Images/photos3/oprah6.jpg

sore_ass_losers

Oprah transcript:

OPRAH: As a child, my next guest was used also in worshipping the devil, participated in human sacrifice rituals and cannibalism. She says her family has been involved in rituals for generations. She is currently in extensive therapy, suffers from multiple personality disorder, meaning she's blocked out many of the terrifying and painful memories of her childhood. Meet "Rachel," who is also in disguise to protect her identity. You come from generations of ritualistic abuse?

"RACHEL", Was Used In Satan Worship Rituals: Yes, my family has an extensive family tree, and they keep track of who's been involved and who hasn't been involved, and it’s gone back to like 1700.

OPRAH: And so you were ritually abused.

"RACHEL": Right. I was born into a family that believes in this.

OPRAH: Does everyone else think it's a nice Jewish family? From the outside, you appear to be a nice Jewish girl?

"RACHEL": Definitely.

OPRAH: And you all are worshipping the devil inside the home?

"RACHEL": Right. There's other Jewish families across the country. It's not just my own family.

OPRAH: Really? And so who knows about it? Lots of people now.

"RACHEL": Well, I talked to a police detective in the Chicago area, and several of my friends know, and I've spoke publicly before, and…

OPRAH: So when you were brought up in this kind of evilness, did you just think it was normal?

"RACHEL': I blocked out a lot of the memories I had because of my multiple personality disorder, but, yes. I mean, it's like if you grow up with something, you think it’s normal. I always thought something…

OPRAH: So what kinds of things? You don't have to give us the gory details, but what kinds of things went on in the family?

"RACHEL": Well, there would be rituals in which babies would be sacrificed, and you would have to, you know…

OPRAH: Whose babies?

"RACHEL": There were people who bred babies in our family. No one would know about it. A lot of people were overweight, so you couldn't tell if they were pregnant or not, or they would supposedly go away for awhile and then come back…

"RACHEL": The other thing I want to point out not all Jewish people sacrifice babies. I mean, it's not a very typical thing.

OPRAH: I think we kind of know that.

"RACHEL": I just want to point that out.

OPRAH: This is the first time I heard of any Jewish people sacrificing babies, but anyway--so you witnessed the sacrifice.

"RACHEL": Right. When I was very young, I was forced to participate in that-- in which I had to sacrifice an infant.

OPRAH: And the purpose of sacrifice is to what? Is to bring you what? What are you sacrificing for?

"RACHEL": For power...

OPRAH: Power. And so were you ever used? Were you ever used yourself?

"RACHEL": I was molested. I was raped several times.

OPRAH: What's your mother doing in all of this? What's her role in all of this?

"RACHEL": What is-- I'm not exactly- -what her role is-- I haven't, you know, recovered all of my memories, but her family was extremely involved. You know, she brought me to it. Both of my parents brought me to it.

OPRAH: And where is she now?

"RACHEL": She lives in the Chicago metropolitan area. She's on the human relations commission of the town that she lives in, and she's an upstanding citizen. Nobody would suspect her. Nobody would suspect anybody involved in it. There's police officers involved in it. There's, you know, doctors, lawyers, Indiana chiefs involved in it.

OPRAH: Are you kidding?

"RACHEL": I mean, it's not the person, you know, who looks scummy that's involved in it. It's someone who looks normal.…

OPRAH: Were you raised with a sense of right and wrong, “Rachel?”

“RACHEL: Yes. I mean, it’s like we, I had both. I mean, to the outside world, everything we did was proper and right, and then there were the nights that things changed, that things just got turned around. What was wrong was right, and what was right was wrong. That’s what helps to create some of theto develop MPD.

OPRAH: Multiple personality disorder.

“RACHEL”: Right, right.

OPRAH: I know a lot of people are shaking their heads here, and I'm sure that when you go back home, I mean, everyone's going to try to make you look like you're crazy.

"RACHEL": Oh, definitely.

OPRAH: Absolutely.

"RACHEL": They do that all the time.

OPRAH: It's very difficult to believe, so how is it that you come to believe these people, Tina?

Ms. GROSSMAN: Well, I've treated over 40 survivors of ritual abuse. Adult patients with multiple personality disorder, and from many states in this country as well as Canada. What we've seen and heard and gone through in the abreactions which is the remembered experiences of that- we are hearing the identical same things from these adults. Okay. These are not children that are three years old, and you can, as an adult, perhaps rationalize that this is fantasy material. These adults are saying things. They have never met each other before. They are describing identical rituals, just the same as, since I'm Jewish, you could go to New York or California and describe a seder in one state or another and, as a Jew, you would recognize it. This is the belief system in evil and the power that evil gives you, and so it has these certain rituals, so they are very similar with all of the survivors.

OPRAH: See, but I am very surprised because the Jewish faith is the Jewish faith. and worshipping the devil is not a part of the Jewish faith. I mean, Jewish people do not worship the devil.

Ms. GROSSMAN: But before there was Christ and before there was a system of one God, there was Paganism- and it still exists in the world, and in many cultures, you still find the belief that there is strength and power in the actual consumption of human flesh or animals' flesh.

OPRAH: Now in your family. did you all call it worshipping the devil, "Rachel?”

"RACHEL": No.

OPRAH: Or did you…

"RACHEL": I don't know.

OPRAH: It was just evil. these things you did.

"RACHEL": It was-- right.

OPRAH: Right.

"RACHEL": Well, I said it was evil, and they said it was good. There's a book that I had just come across called [Lilith's Cave: Jewish Tales of the Supernatural by Howard Schwartz, New York, Oxford University Press, 1988] which is a book of Jewish mysticism and supernatural, and there's a lot in that book that relates to what I endured when I was a child.

OPRAH: I want to stop right here, though. because you know how people build prejudices. I want to make it very clear this is one Jewish person, so don't go around now saying to people, you know, "Those Jewish people, they're worshipping--'. This is just one person. Okay.

"RACHEL": Most Jewish people do not do what my family did.

OPRAH: Okay. Thank you very much.

"RACHEL": I mean, I don't know very many other Jewish people who would do what I did.

OPRAH: But you know how people hear one thing, and then go off and they say, "I heard on 'The Oprah Winfrey Show' today that…”

sore_ass_losers

Followers of Sabbatai Zvi and Jacob Frank would be good candidates for a force behind organized pedophilia. Some equate them with the modern 'Illuminati'.

I think Zvi had a saying 'Blessed is he who permits the forbidden'. In Jewish tradition the world is supposed to end when all people are good or bad. Frank's reasoning 'If we can't all be good, let's all be evil'.

So these groups are inherently deceptive and secretive, posing as other religions and hiding their beliefs. They also believe in an inversion of morality. Usually and historically this is thought to mean loose sex, e.g. some people peeped through the windows at a Frankist mass and saw men and women dancing together naked. I think Frank pimped out his daughter Eva fairly young too.

Anyway, just thought I'd chime in for support.

Agent999

Exactly. They are to Jews as satanist to Christians. An inversion of symbols just like satanist. The star is David is not a Jewish symbol. It is kabbalistic...as above so below. It is the seal of Solomon. He, King Solomon, created the temple by use of magic and demons helped him build it. See why Epstein island had a temple. Jesuits are the Christian arm of this cult. Wahhabist are Islams arm of cult. Destroy from within,

sore_ass_losers

I looked up Lilith's Child . I guess my tingly 'spider sense' paranoia failed me, not really a big deal. Just some Jewish myths.

It's interesting though, Goldman (?) Polin's therapist talked about pagan Jewish cults on Oprah. I suppose that might be Moloch, don't know too much about this (apologies, I'm not being anti-semitic). But my observation is for every case in the Old Testament where one party is the good guy and one is the bad guy there's a cult that thinks the bad guy was actually right. God/Serpent, Eve/Lilith, Abel/Cain, Jacob/Esau.

I think there's a religious aspect to all of this that makes it a good thing to rape kids, in some people's minds.

Vindicator

@Agent999 , v/pizzagate is for source-linked research. We ask folks posting discussion about these esoteric subjects to submit v/pizzagatewhatever , our speculative subverse. Our submission rules here require linked support for all major claims, as well as a clear explanation of how this material is directly relevant to taking down elite child rapists. Please edit this to include those links, especially for such things as

These groups believe in holy sin including the following: Incest Pedophilia Wife swapping Lying Pretending to be another religion ie. Judism and yelling anti Semite if rebuked Defrauding Murder Genocide

and

The following leaders were members of the "Cult of the All-Seeing Eye" (Sabbatean/Frankists): Franklin D. Roosevelt; Winston Churchill; Adolph Hitler; Eugenio Pacelli (Pope Pius XII); Francisco Franco; Benito Mussolini; Hirohito and Mao Tse-Tung."

We need the documentation for these types of claims for posts in this subverse. I will give you the 24 Hour Grace flair to edit. Or you can repost in v/pizzagatewhatever . Thanks!

Agent999

The interview was about a book rabbi Marvin Antelman wrote, it was extremely well researched, To Eliminate The Opiate vol1&2, since the author is being interviewed, and he's an authority in the topic, I thought that would be proof enough. I have included the Wikipedia, version,MThat corroborates my assertions.

Crensch

it was extremely well researched

But your post isn't.

since the author is being interviewed, and he's an authority in the topic, I thought that would be proof enough.

No, you need to succinctly support your claims - all of them. Any videos or bodies of text need to have the exact times/lines available so others don't have to slog through a bunch of bullshit just to find the support for your claims.

Direct quotes would go a long way towards making verification of your claims easier.

I have included the Wikipedia, version,MThat corroborates my assertions.

Wikipedia is not considered an authoritative source for much of anything anymore. It's as censored on PG stuff as rEddit is, if not more.

I'm going to be as frank and polite as I can be:

You're a 10 month old account with less than 150 contribution points, showing up and making at least 2 rule-breaking posts to PizzaGate in the past 3 days, at a time when we're getting shilled and brigaded heavily. YOU look like one of them.

This is not a storytelling subverse, or a hand-waving-to-authoritative-hours-long videos or entire books. It is YOUR job to support YOUR specific claims while not placing an undue burden on the mods having to verify that you're not just posting bullshit. If that's how you want to post, /v/pizzagatewhatever is the place for you.

I can't really be very polite about this one:

What the fuck is this ?

How is this in ANY way going to be useful in catching other pedophile predators? This case is over-with, and doesn't show ANYTHING about ANY systemic abuses. It's a 1-off and you post it here like it belongs? In a RESEARCH sub? DID YOU EVEN READ RULE 1?

Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites

Who is elite here? Who does this post benefit, besides your SCP? It's very obvious that this post was meant SOLELY to pick up some easy SCP so you wouldn't look like so much of a shill.

And this utter, utter horseshit of a line you wrote:

This poor child, not only had to endure strange, perverse, disgusting men raping her innocent body. She was trained and assaulted by her own mother!

Is very obviously NOT sincere. You're trying to tug on someone's heartstrings when the words suggest that you, yourself, feel nothing at all.

You're either frighteningly stupid, paid to be here, or have an agenda of forum-sliding legitimate research posts with such low-quality SHIT.

I don't flair posts, but if you don't delete this, and any other post that even remotely resembles it of your own, I'll tend to your username personally until you disappear. Nobody has any need or desire to have such a low-quality poster here, and I won't have my mods run ragged because you're either too stupid, or you're siding with the child-fuckers.

If you're just an idiot, delete your posts and lurk more before submitting again. If you're also being paid or a child-fucker yourself, consider this username burned.

@Vindicator @srayzie @think-

Blacksmith21

It's a Satanist agenda. Part of their agenda was to infect EVERY religion - Christianity, Catholicism, Judaism, Islam, etc. Every fucking religion has been infected by the "missionaries" who went forth to spread the word of Lucifer. All religions have been corrupted. The Catholic church, up to the Vatican is the worst IMO.

Then again, a compelling argument could be made foe the endemic pedophilia found within Islam. The innate misogyny, male homosexuality, pedophilia is horrendous within Islam.

But this isn't a "what's the worst religion" conversation.

(Paraphrase) "They hung the finest gold crosses on the young altar boys to indicate that they were of "stature" and that they had been "properly groomed"." It was a fucking system. Not one-offs. They groomed, they marked, and they prayed.

The Jesuits were behind it. All the D/CIA who are Jesuits. G. Gordon Liddy and his pedophile CA DAG son. Georgetown University; Loyola; Notre Dame: Penn State - Sandusky; Ohio State - Urban Meyer (this isn't about wife beating); etc...

Agent999

I agree with you....but I believe, and I think you made a point....it has infected every religion. This has been planned, systematic and effective. Once there were Christian and Jews....now there are hundreds of Christian sects and reformed, conservative and Orthodox Jews. In Islam too, many sects. They divide and conquer by infiltration and a slow poisoning of the well. Ethical beings are not easily swayed. That is why they are attacking religion. Ethical behaviour is their enemy. We are bombarded at every direction with filth. It's to encourage us to do likewise.

Blacksmith21

There is only one God.

Agent999

Cheers to that!

huhWHAThuh

From what i have read Freemasons take blood curdling oaths too pervert justice in favor of their fellow masons. How could they possibly administer fair and honest decisions in any public office? The Courts, Police, and all other areas of political responsibility are chocked full of them. Not one should be allowed to practice their craft of public corruption in any office of government, particularly the Judiciary. The same actually applies to Jesuit affiliated persons. Jesuits are members of a foreign military service sworn to the destruction of free and open self government by any means available. And it looks like Trump's new Supreme Court Nominee will be another Jesuit affiliated lawyer. I honestly have lost the count. But i think this is either 6 or 7 of the 9 Jesuit educated/affiliated. And our founding fathers called them the greatest danger to our country's future. They should be rejected by default as affiliates to sworn enemies of free and open government.

Agent999

Yeah all one sick, very extensive cult. Jesuits are the Christian faction, but like the Templars they are cabalists too. Ahhh that days of innocent, ignorant bliss....,gone forever.

pby1000

I am not so sure that Jesuits are Christian. They seem to be Gnostics.

Hagen19

DISINFORMATION. Typical kike disinformation. It is not a kike agenda? Luciferian element hiding within "Judaism"? READ THE TALMUD, THE FOUNDATION OF "JUDAISM", AND TELL ME WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS NOT A "JEWISH" AGENDA. So much junk in this video. Hitler funded by the Wallstreet? Scapegoating the Masons when Freemasonry is nothing but a carbon copy of "Jewish" kabbalism? Excuse me for the caps lock, but people need to take not and not fall for typical pharisaic fake "Jew" disinformation.

pby1000

How long has Judaism been around for?

Agent999

Not all Jews follow the tulmud or the Zohar....they strictly follow the Torah. All Jews are not Zionist. This is a rabbi outing people who say are Jews.....but are not. If you don't believe, hey that okay, but the donmehs of turkey are all sabbatean/frankists....do you call satanist, Christian? No, well Jews have their own special luciferian edition of their own. Strange but true.

Hagen19

Agent999, or should I say, Agent666, yes, almost every single "Jew" is either raised on the Talmud or in a talmudic environment, even if secular on the surface. That or the Zohar and its many descendants. You don't know what you're talking about. Is it possible that one percent of so-called "Jews" strictly follow the Torah? Don't know, can't say, although the idea of only reading the Torah is a bizarre one. Notice that the Torah consists of the five books of Moses. Why wouldn't they follow the rest of the Old Testament? The idea of only "valuing" the first five books is a talmudic idea. And of course the talmudists don't even really value the Torah, but rather spit on it with their perverted misinterpretations. Another thing. The fake "Jews" will often call the Talmud the Torah, actually meaning the oral "Torah". So often when they profess to adhere to the Torah, really they are still talking about the Talmud. They use tricky language like that, though I'm quite sure you're well aware of all this, aren't you, Agent666? But I'm writing this for the consideration of other readers.

Agent999

Agent 999 is an inversion of 666....two can play at their games.

argosciv

Agent 999 is an inversion of 666....two can play at their games.

You're a fucking stooge. You have no idea how to 'play' with those numbers nor any other.

The pathetic rambling in this thread reeks of ES's faggotry. Neck yourselves.

cc: @Vindicator

Agent999

You are entitled to your opinion. IMO Hitlers, was a Frankist....so we're many in his inner circle. He didn't kill all the Jews, just the religious ones. Jews like George soros were saved by turning in other Jews. How do you figure? Their are good people in every religion, colour and creed my brother. Divide and conquer that is the game.

Piscina

I agree. They have well and truly infiltrated Catholic Rome.

Agent999

http://sicknesshope.com/node/1887

13th amendment - no lawyer or nobility to foreign countries...to me that's the Freemasonic system squire, Knights, supreme pubba...all Mason's answer to the queen ultimately.

derram

https://invidio.us/watch?v=wcmWbEgARMs :

Rabbi Marvin Antelman - The Sabbatean-Frankists - YouTube


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Agent999

Thank you.