Pizzalawyer

now there is a live interview with Robyn Girtz. Maybe somebody here can find it and post it.

SandHog

There are some discrepancies here that I just noticed. Here ( https://youtu.be/MvfPnUm2f30?t=261) ) George Webb says he called the manager of the hotel to check on her. In the OAN report at 18 seconds the reporter says that police found her unresponsive after performing a welfare check. Yet, a little later on in the video another OAN reporter, who is standing in front of the hotel, says at the 54 second mark that housekeeping found the body.

Did OAN get things mixed up or is Webb trying to take credit for something he didn't do?

Pizzalawyer

As I understand it, George who was staying at same hotel asked staff to check on her room. When they saw a collapsed Jen, they must have called 911. So the police were on the scene after George. Then Robyn makes an appearance by phone pressing for answers. No hanky-pank in timeline.

YogSoggoth

Who cares. This is OAN and Mossad. This is like fantasy watching, TV, to us. I know how to start a neat fire with johnnycakes and a small NG leak. Gets the boss's attention. Safety first.

SandHog

I keep hearing Webb got drunk and admitted the Mossad thing have a link to that by chance? I kept up with him for a bit back when he was doing the 'muh missing Eric Braverman' thing and haven't paid any attention to him until the Jenny Moore thing came about.

YogSoggoth

Drunk or not, we do not rely on him. He is like a bad Q, and we don't rely on that also.

Cc1914

Thank you 😊

shewhomustbeobeyed

You're welcome. : )

Blacksmith21

Has everyone forgotten that Gritz was the SSA whom Flynn defended to McCabe? I don't know about the accuracy of a lot of the details, but Gritz is right at the epicenter of the war against the DS.

think-

War against the Deep State? ROFLMAO. More like war between two DS factions at best.

Blacksmith21

So you think SSA Gritz, LTG Flynn are part of the Deep State?

auralsects

yeah bitch I called it like a year ago https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2309892

Shizy

Your moms burka slipped off. You may want to run and help her fix it so you or one of your brothers don't accidentally rape her.

Blacksmith21

Retard post....go fish.

SterlingJB

Welp, this "msm" (lol) outlet just repeated the same error as bigleague and neon nettle by identifying her as a "veteran journalist" rather than referring to her law enforcement background. I mean at least they didn't post the picture of the dead for years journalist with the same name, which I guess is progress, but what gives?

Are_we__sure

OANN is not mainstream media.

Blacksmith21

OANN is carried on multiple platforms. They aren't "mainstream" as in MSM = propaganda. They aren't small.

http://www.oann.com/wheretowatch/

Are_we__sure

Well the very first sentence is wrong.

Blacksmith21

Web, CATV, SAT are multiple platforms.

Are_we_sure

Not Your first sentence. The first sentence of the OANN report is wrong. Jenny Moore was not a veteran reporter.

Then after listening to Gritz say there no signs of break in or foul play or suicide, the report ends with, her reporting may have gotten her killed.

That's not reporting based on facts.

SandHog

Something occurred to me. That report stated that the ex-fbi agent, Robyn, lives in the Midwest and knew Jen/Jem. Anyone think it's possible that part of this might have to do with Racine, WI and user Wisconsin_Is_Corrupt? Same person possibly? I recall reading something about that here a while back. Disregard if I'm off base and that doesn't make any sense. I'm still working on getting up to speed here.

YogSoggoth

What does a sandhog do? You have 1 second to respond. (I already know the answer).

SandHog

They dig, of course.

YogSoggoth

Too vague of an answer. That is how I know you are not a sandhog.

SandHog

How many lifters are typical for a 15x20? What is a burn? El or non-El? Jumbos are fun.

YogSoggoth

You read that later. I gave you a second to respond, and would have given more time for difficulties. Fake Sandhog.

SandHog

Lol, k. Sorry I didn't schedule my response around your timmeline. You didn't answer my questions not that it matters.

YogSoggoth

I don't give away mining secrets, or correlated information that easily.

SandHog

Secrets? Maybe to a toplander that never stepped a foot off the collar. Ain't nothing a person who spent any time working underground wouldn't know. Feel free to keep on thinking whatever it is you're thinking, pard. It's no skin off my ass.

YogSoggoth

We'll see who is the miner, and we will both agree, Mr. Canary.

SandHog

If you are going to accuse me of something how about you just come out and do it instead of being a cryptic little faggot?

YogSoggoth

I don't know you. I am easily accessible. Watch your mouth.

SandHog

I don't know you either. You called me out on my name and I provided enough info on my background to verify my background as a fellow dirt hog. I'm not willing to go farther than that given the state of things on the internet today. How about just watching what I post and making up your mind from there? I suspect you are suspicious of me me given the timing of my arrival and possibly because I brought up the shit about Racine and Wisconsin whatever their name is. I'm not going to dox myself simply because you are suspicious of me. That's not gonna happen anymore than I would expect you to do the same. I've given enough info for anyone who has ever worked underground, as I assume you have, to recognize my background. Of course if you were a coal guy or maybe a borer/infrastructure guy what I have laid out might not click. I get it. That's all you are going to get outta me. So either you can be satisfied with that and we can move on or I will simply ignore you from here on out. Doesn't matter to me either way.

I get that the timing of me showing up on the board probably rings some alarm bells given the trolling shit involving Jenny Moore and whoever this 'Sarah' character is. That's fine. I get it. You are free to speculate and concoct your own assumptions about that. I don't have anything to do with whoever is behind that shit. I'm not an employee of David Brock's internet assault team. If I had my way I would pull the lever to hang that cocksucker and everyone under his employ. So, here we are.

think-

Well, they had a similar writing style, and IIRC, both always used 'we', both had the same pompous manner of expressing themselves, both always acted as if they alone would single-handedly take the deep state down.

carmencita

All I know that would answer your question is that Jenny/Jem said that she met with @Wisconsi_Is_Corrupt Other than that I don't think the documents or lawsuit she said she was filing on behalf of the boy, had anything to do with Racine. I have no clue where Robin lives.

SandHog

Thanks, I was sure I had read that they met up somewhere. It was stated in the OAN video that Robyn lives in the Midwest which could very well mean that she lives in Wisconsin which is why I brought it up. Probably nothing but it popped out to me.

Cc1914

@carmencita would know more than me ..

Dressage2

Thank you for posting.

Vindicator

I'm glad there has finally been a report on this.

At :58 he says Gritz never knew Moore's last name and that the police called her because she was listed as her next of kin?

Where would that be listed?

EffYouJohnPodesta

possibly listed with her DL, if she was in witness protection with a fake name, she would have changed her name on her DL. You can file stuff like that with the DMV and check it off on the back of your license.

Shizy

I don't know if they legally change their name with the DMV since that would leave a paper trail of their ID. Wouldn't they just be provided with a new ID and forged documentation of their new identity? Anyway, the DMV can't legally just change the name, they would need a court order.

EffYouJohnPodesta

Right, they would get new documents first, then take them to the DMV.

Vindicator

What would be the purpose of WitSec if the DMV had your identity? I thought DMV records were public.

EffYouJohnPodesta

You legally change your name to a fake name, I assume there is a way to do that secretly somehow and have the court records sealed. DMV would then potentially have your fake name on record with a next of kin, if you file one when you fill out your application. I am not an insider and I've never been in Witness Protection but my ex's step-brother is in it (I recently learned this and found it incredibly disturbing) and has changed his name.

According to George Webb the FBI informant program is much larger than they let on.

I am speculating that that could potentially be an explanation, not saying I know this to be true.

Vindicator

With facial recognition, though, all they'd have to do is run your new fake DL against the databases and your cover would be blown.

EffYouJohnPodesta

true... I guess the local cops have access to all those databases? You're right, Gritz would probably have access?

Vindicator

I don't know if either of them would, but if I were narking on the former Rapist in Chief, I sure as hell wouldn't bet they didn't.

EffYouJohnPodesta

yeah, it's important to notice these little details, that's where the cases get completely blown open

Are_we__sure

Either Jenny Moore carried something on her person or total speculation a note was left.

Cc1914

I just came across this hit piece on us http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=331501

YogSoggoth

Too busy being real.

SandHog

Lol, the very first post on that page and they have no idea who Laura Silsby is. Sad! Although sometimes I kinda wish I didn't know what really goes on in this fucked up world also.

Cc1914

Ha ! I know it’s easier with your head in the sand

carmencita

Those people are really asleep. Ho-Hum. It is very evident what their agenda is.

Pizzalawyer

Q is getting old Pizzagate research from the Anons. Thats ok, Qs audience is enormous and growing exponentially. Since we are being accused of parenting Q, we may as well ride Qs coattails. The attacks on Q are so ridiculous that people are checking out Q for themselves and they will start seeing the pedophelia and satanist topics and be part of the Great Awakening. We will be validated eventually

Mammy

I agree, Pizzalawyer. (Good to see you, btw). It's actually a testament to the veracity and the tenacity of research and researchers on this board that Q is using the info to redpill others. The Great Awakening is nigh.

Pizzalawyer

Q just released yesterday a treasure trove of info re the wives of some of these bigwigs in Spygate. They hold very important positions in DC using their maiden names and have been working diligently since Hillary was S of S to protect her and the Clinton Foundation. Rob Rosensteins wife was one of the most surprising disclosures.

flapjack_charlie

Q says trust Sessions. Q is NOT real. If you want to use it as a PR avenue, fine, but Q is a larp using half assed cold reading techniques.

Pizzalawyer

And same to you Mammy.

Cc1914

Yes I agree !

Cc1914

So many missing pieces.. if she was in the witness protection program as rumored, they may have had all that info .

Vindicator

I don't understand why someone in witness protection would be galavanting around making videos with Webb. Do US Marshalls even allow that if they are babysitting you in protective custody to testify against dangerous people in federal investigation? That is hard to believe and defies common sense.

think-

I think to look more closely into Jem's claim she was in the Witness Protection Programme is maybe the key to find out whether she was legit or not. And I'm afraid that might be an easy answer. I don't know about the US, but in Britain, when people are in this programme, and get a special training, a new identiy etc. that it is expensive (not for the person in question, but for the taxpayer.... ;-) ).

So walking around with a well known YouTuber, travel with him, go to public places like the Senate etc. is definitely nothing anybody in the WPP would do.

TL;DR: She lied when she said she was in this programme imo.

And somehow I don't believe that Gritz only knew her first name - I mean, come on, this woman was a FBI agent, she worked with MI - and then she has a friend who lives in the US and she is not able to find out her last name? Would be a matter of only two phone calls for somebody like her. Or maybe even only one.

@srayzie @Shizy @Crensch

Shizy

I too was looking into the witness protection program as it seems what most people know if it comes from tv! From 1971 until 2013 there were only 8500 people to go through the program. That's less than 300 per year. It's a very very small program designed to protect witnesses who are testifying before, during, and just after a trial. 95% of people who have gone through the program were criminals! Criminals!

I agree with what you said think, going all over town making YouTube ideas with George Webb, talking in videos, and eating lunch everyday among lawmakers in DC is not what you would expect from someone whose life is in danger due to exposing government corruption and in the witness protection program. It's way too much exposure and would put her at risk.

srayzie

It’s crossed my mind that she could have been an FBI informant with George Webb, or investigating George Webb. She was too open about telling everyone that she had documents that could get her killed. She used to say it on voat too. She was open about getting on the witness protection program. But, she kept her same Twitter account and one of her tweets that I shared the other day shows him in the picture.

From Dec 15th That’s the day they went to Comet Ping pong. That alone was enough to reveal her identity.

So if she was in the witness protection program, why repeatedly tell us publicly that she was entering the program, then go travel with someone so well known, who records live and says where he’s going before he goes so it would be easy to find her? Why keep the same voat usernames and twitter profiles? Why come back and post on voat using the usernames? Why has George Webb not been killed? He has been exposing the Cabal for over a year right out in the open.

None of this makes sense to me. Especially sharing what I shared the other day as well.

@Vindicator @Think- @Shizy @Gamepwn @MolochHunter

think-

Yes, you're absolutely right. Good assessment of the situation. I think she might have been in the same network of intel like Gritz and Webb.

srayzie

Maybe they were already friends. 🤓

Are_we__sure

The witness protection, the PTSD, the attack, the dead fiancee are all only sourced to her at this point.

Pizzalawyer

It makes no sense to me.

Vindicator

Do you think maybe Webb/Jenn/Jem are trying to set up Gritz in some way? She apparently had no more actual evidence of Jenny's claims or identity than we did.

think-

I don't buy for one minute that Gritz didn't know Jenny's full identiy. An FBI agent, having worked with MI? Totally unlikely.

Vindicator

So, you think Gritz lied to One America News? I wonder why she would do that?

Maybe she was trying to protect her, thinking inquiries via FBI channels would be dangerous?

Or are you thinking she was part of Moore's death?

think-

I wonder why she would do that?

I have no idea, Vin. But something is not adding up here.

Cc1914

Yes I agree totally , she had ptsd so that may have played a part . People do crazy stuff when they feel brave

carmencita

Where are those documents?

She described Jem/Jenny as Kind Heart Fierce Mind and Great Spirit. RIPJem

SandHog

It's gotta be True Pundit that has them. People give that guy a lot of shit but he is hooked in tight with someone in the fbi. When Judicial Watch FOIA'd Andrew McCabe's emails there was an email where McCabe cautioned Comey that TP had a 'heavyweight source' in regards to TP breaking the story of McCabe's wife and her campaign donations from the DNC. Lot of stuff he breaks comes out money; sometimes it just takes a while.

carmencita

Yes, McCabe's wife got a huge donation from Terry McCauliff a long time Clinton friend and former gov. of Virginia. 750K Big Smackers. I am wondering if there is a Big Hit Job being done on True Pundit. I think we should all take a look and just make up our own minds. Instead of letting people make them up for us.

Pizzalawyer

Yes she did, and it was stipulated that any $$ not used by campaign expenses was hers to keep. I wonder just how much was left over,

carmencita

Yeah, I think he can stipulate where it goes. There are politicians that have money left over although they are not suppose to use it for personal funds. There are a couple that have gotten into trouble over that.

Are_we__sure

Not how campaign funds work.

Look into election laws.

They do not become personal funds.

SandHog

I definitely think that there is a concerted effort to defame TP. People love to go out of their way to slander him. TP broke the HRC Foundation child sex stuff on Weiner's laptop story almost two years ago. It was only a few months ago that one particular section in the IG report shed a sliver of light on that even though we still have nowhere near the full story. Lot of stuff takes so long to break in the crappy msm that people forget TP ever broke it.

kneo24

True Pundit defames itself. For example - https://truepundit.com/exclusive-fbi-admits-federal-informants-linked-to-deadly-charlottesville-riots-unlikely-to-face-charges/

Where is the source for this? Not a single link the in article detailing where the FBI says or does anything. Just because you feel it's probably true doesn't mean it is, member for 4 days pushing a narrative.

SandHog

We don't actually know if she's dead or alive. This shitty website get it's source from TruePundit who get it's sources from it's "magical hat". There's a whole discussion about it over on v/pizzagate .

-You

kneo24

Yes, i did write that, brand new account. You didn't actually make a point here.

Are_we__sure

TP broke the HRC Foundation child sex stuff on Weiner's laptop story almost two years ago

A. This story turned out to completely false. The NYPD never seized Weiner's laptop and the FBI never came in and yanked the laptop and case out of their hands. The FBI warrant to seize and search the laptop was unsealed last year. Weiner's lawyers turned his laptop, Iphone and iPad over to a security firm so.the seizure didn't take place at Weiner's home. The recent IG report actually destroys this story. It has a whole chapter on what happened with Weiner laptop. NYPD was not mentioned at all.

B. Not only did True Pundit not break this story, it had been floating around the internet for days. Some guy named Kent Dunn did a YouTube video on it days before true Pundit.

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2556787/12834973

This story was a hoax.

SandHog

Lol k . Page 294 of the IG report.

Are_we__sure

You should read that entire chapter and you will see nothing that supports the pizza-gate claim that this notes mean what they think. There's just zero support at all.

A plausible explanation of those final two lines which is backed up by the entire chapter is, there are now two investigations, Hillary Clinton's emails and Weiner's crimes against children and two separate warrants will be needed. The chapter goes over and over what the warrants are about. No warrant involves Clinton and sex crimes.

This desperate grasping at straws would require a FBI guy to be briefed on aClinton sex crime scandal. AND FORGET ABOUT THAT MOMENT.

Ludicrous.

True Pundit hoax remains a hoax.

SandHog

It's pretty clear by the order of the notes that there were 3 issues Coleman was briefed on One of which (number 2) was unrelated. It's also clear that everything grouped under point 3 is very inter-related. True Pundit says that Hillary knew about Anthony Weiner's indiscretions with under age girls and chose to ignore them. Considering her bff Huma was married to the guy and wouldn't keep Hillary in the dark about her husband's pervy habits (something both women seem to have in common) it isn't even a stretch to think that she would tell her. In fact she absolutely would have every reason to tell Hillary given the potential political fallout. At a bare minimum she knew about and ignored a pedophiles actions. That's completely discounting Laura Silsby's involvement in smuggling children out of Haiti which is an undeniable fact. I don't think that the rumor of H and H carving up a child in some S&M ritual is true.

As for the FBI forgetting about Clinton crimes....L O fucking L. They've been doing that for years. Give me a fucking break.

It's also pretty clear to me that you are, at best, the board contrarian. You can go ahead and save any further bait mate. From what I've seen out of you I'm not interested in much of anything you have to say.

Are_we__sure

You're still clinging to the note? Read the whole chapter.

It's also clear that everything grouped under point 3 is very inter-related.

No. It's not.

True Pundit routinely makes shit up.

All of Weiner's other indiscretions we're with grown women and this girl sought him out. There may be no other girl at all.

Then you drift off into a bunch of irrelevant claims including the Silsby connection I debunked. True Pundit pushed a hoax because they routinely make shit up

kneo24

Dude, they're a member for 4 days. They're pushing a narrative.

SandHog

Says you and your buddy that conveniently show up at the same time lol. Maybe it's because outside of snake-ass Webb True Pundit interviewed both her and the rape victim. Maybe I am talking about True Pundit because they are saying that they have Jen's information and will be releasing it. Maybe that's why True Pundit is a prime topic of conversation tonight.

Nah, there has to be an ulterior motive! Says the two people who show up solely, to all appearances, in order to discredit TP and anyone that happens to discuss them. Uh, huh. Much logic.

kneo24

Read, member for 4 days, and read carefully. It's vlear you're capable of going through ones posting history, so you would easily see I have been attacking TP as a source for a while now. Just because another user does it, doesn't mean I'm connected to them.

It's also clear how you won't address the fact they often make a lot of claims without properly sourcing them.

TP is not a valid source anywhere if you even have an ounce of intellectual integrity and honesty. You continuing to defend them despite their history of shoddy journalism only further exposes your agenda.

You (((rats))) are easy to spot.

carmencita

I remember that now about TP and the laptop! Wow. Yes, there are people that will try to steer us wrong, to make us think they are disinfo. I will check them out. You could be right that they may have those documents. That's good.

think-

TP has published disinfo in the past, Carmencita. And they even continued pushing the article in question on their Twitter when Vindicator informed them that it was fake.

carmencita

Wow. Did not know Vindicator had called them out on that. Thanks for the info!

think-

Welcome, Carm. When I will have time later, I will try to find the thread. It was the fake interview with the Saudi princess, maybe you remember the post.

carmencita

I am shocked. I have been called out and called a nasty name. I never used that kind of language on here about anyone. Also I did not know showing emotions was wrong. Someone has these ideas about me and I must now defend. How can anyone say that I said Vind. caused her death. I can't understand. https://voat.co/v/whatever/2682573

think-

Carm, you might go over to the thread you linked, and discuss the matter with @Crensch ?

carmencita

He seems to already have decided my fate. When someone uses that kind of language about you, it seems the die has been cast. I am sick to my stomach. For Real.

Crensch

He seems to already have decided my fate.

Yeah? How's that?

When someone uses that kind of language about you, it seems the die has been cast.

You're just a weak-minded vagina that adds fuel to the fire when the shills are active, and you never seem to be on the side of the people supporting their claims.

I am sick to my stomach. For Real.

Do you know where you are? Should I assume you've got Alzheimer's or something?

Do you think your little safe-space microcosm of PG that most goats leave alone will protect you from mean words if you start siding with the shills and liars?

How can anyone say that I said Vind. caused her death.

Because you came out on the same side as the people that did. Let me break it down for you:

-Vindi bans cunt for not following rules

-Cunt supposedly dies

-REEEEEEEE VINDI KILLED HER WITH BAN AND SHE WAS AMAZING RESEARCHER

-REEEEE I AM CARMENCITA AND I THINK JEM WAS AWESOME AND AGREE WITH RIPJem BUT THEN I CALL IT HARASSMENT WHEN SOMEONE TRIES TO TELL ME RIPJEM IS A LIAR.

-

Carmencita on RIPJem:

Jem told me a long time ago she trusted him/her.

Per RIPJem:

We exposed you and other mods and users involved in pushing lies and a corrupt and Evil agenda, and exposed Voat as a compromised and dangerous platform. We are warning others and sharing The Truth.

The Mods and their Army have an EVIL AGENDA, and this is a WITCH HUNT to slander, attack, discredit and target more VICTIMS and anyone who knows The Truth.

Do you not believe there are nefarious Bad Actors on VOAT that are willing to Torture and Murder others to silence The Truth?

Remember when you sided with this username, you cunt?

Shizy

Something that has continued to bother me is that she said JEM told her she trusted RIPJem, however RIPJem didn't show up on the scene until the day the news broke about JEM's death. So how can that be? Unless Carmencita knows something we don't about who RIPJem is, she's either confused or being dishonest.

Crensch

A very good point. I assumed carmencita just knew who the person was. But it's entirely possible that she was just being full of shit and actually is completely on their side. Her role is to just look like some ignorant, stupid, geriatric pensioner that gets to say whatever and then cries harassment when someone calls her out on her bullshit.

Shizy

Maybe you're on to something with that about it being a role. After all that has gone on here the past week or so who the hell knows!

carmencita

Let it now be known I have no bone to pick with Vindicator OKAY. Stop it

Crensch

Let it now be known I have no bone to pick with Vindicator OKAY.

Actions speak louder than words.

Stop it

What kind of adult thinks it can tell another adult what to do?

Hey cunt, if I respond to you here, is that also "harassing" you?

carmencita

Since when is this a Free Speech site? I have changed my opinions on a lot of things you have stated. My opinions are my own business. You seem to want to keep pulling me into fights. Stating things about Jem that I knew from working with her on here. I have no clue what she was up to after she left. Please stop harassing me. Like I said. I am only interested in researching and posting the crimes against Our Children. And stop looping me into things that I know nothing about. Please.

Crensch

Since when is this a Free Speech site?

Show me which narrative causes users to be banned or shadowbanned, or is surreptitiously removed.

I have changed my opinions on a lot of things you have stated.

Good for you. I didn't see an apology.

My opinions are my own business.

Not when you POST THEM ON A PUBLIC FORUM, you stupid cunt.

You seem to want to keep pulling me into fights.

You just can't stop being retarded and adding fuel to the fire. Holding you accountable isn't pulling you into anything. You could just shut your whore mouth and nobody would ever be able to call you out on your bullshit.

Stating things about Jem that I knew from working with her on here.

Accusing someone of harassing you when they point out that the username is wrong .

I have no clue what she was up to after she left.

Nobody cares what you know about her after she left.

Please stop harassing me.

Are you really this stupid ?

Like I said. I am only interested in researching and posting the crimes against Our Children.

And siding with usernames that act like shills and attack the mods and accuse them of being responsible for a murder and putting CP on their phones. (WTF?)

And stop looping me into things that I know nothing about. Please.

Stop commenting on shit you know nothing about, you stupid cunt. It's really, REALLY simple; shut your stupid whore mouth and people won't notice and call you out for having a stupid whore mouth .

srayzie

I’m pretty amazed at how quick she was to fall for RIPJem, an obvious Sara alt. But, she’s so quick to turn on some of us.

See the above @Shizy

carmencita

Yes, please send. So many posts to remember.

SandHog

The Las Vegas expose' he did still hasn't came out. I expect it will though, at some point.

carmencita

Wow. That will be some write up. I love good writing. Nowadays you don't see that too often. Can't wait. I am going to check some of their articles out tomorrow. Have not read them for awhile.

SandHog

Err, I mean the msm won't be talking about it for a long time probably. His write up has been done for a while now it's a five part series . Click the 'Featured' tab to see TP original works.

carmencita

Thanks for the link. Will do.

Cc1914

❤️ I know that said a lot

carmencita

I agree <3K

Cc1914

@carmencita you have to see this!

carmencita

TY <3

Cc1914

Yw