Talking about, a girl in Iowa ( pizzagate )

submitted by kestrel9

EDIT: As per mods suggestion I'm adding this for people unfamiliar with background of my post.This post refers to Mollie Tibbitts, who was missing in Iowa and later found dead. Plenty of MSM coverage about what people should take away from her murder. @DerivaUK Thanks for this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2688877 because that's how I discovered that she wasn't just 'a girl in Iowa'. And information about her father's former employer made me stop to consider how an international company with massive projects around the world, including one tied to Bill Clinton and the Orphanage in Haiti named after him wasn't notable for MSM. Not to cast blame, but to give more regard to Mollie beyond framing her story as if she was a nuisance nobody because who was in the way of REAL talk about other children (oh the irony!)

When I saw the building plan for William Jefferson Clinton Children’s Center a design element really brought up something else PG related, hence the reason for starting this submission.

https://www.hok.com/about/news/2014/08/21/enr-features-hok-designed-orphanage-and-childrens-center-in-haiti/

Thanks to the pro-bono contributions of the U.S. Green Building Council and HOK, the William Jefferson Clinton Children’s Center is setting the stage for sustainable, resilient construction in Haiti, which was devastated by a magnitude-7 earthquake in 2010. https://www.hok.com/about/news/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Project-Haiti.jpg

Rob Tibbetts is a member of the board of directors for the San Francisco Chamber of Commerce, which describes him as having worked as Vice President/ Marketing Principal at a company called HOK. https://heavy.com/news/2018/08/rob-tibbetts-mollie-dad-father-robert/

On July 22, 2018, the HOK Facebook page shared Mollie’s missing poster and wrote, “Mollie Tibbetts, a member of HOK’s extended family...

HOK “is a global design, architecture, engineering and planning firm,” its bio reads.

https://www.hok.com/

Recap:

Rob Tibbetts was Vice President/ Marketing Principal HOK

pro-bono contributions of the U.S. Green Building Council and HOK built the William Jefferson Clinton Children’s Center ..In Haiti

https://www.usgbc.org/articles/william-jefferson-clinton-childrens-center-open-april Did they open?

https://www.hok.com/design/type/residential/king-abdullah-petroleum-studies-and-research-center-residential-community/

Something seems odd, wasn't Mollie Tibbitts just "a girl in Iowa"?

Not news worthy apparently.

https://i.imgflip.com/2glkhk.jpg

@DerivaUK Thanks for this: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2688877

kestrel9

Great links thank you!!

Check out these too:

In case anyone wants to make a balsa wood model /s https://www.arch2o.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Arch2O-William-Jefferson-Clinton-Childrens-Center-05.jpg

For a while there I was doubtful much had been done to finish this place (still no news about it being completed, but they're still raising money I believe). The video shows progress as of Nov 19, 2017 anyway...I wasn't able to listen to it last night, so just commenting on visuals.

The video was posted by FEJ, and this is their founder: https://www.fondationenfantjesus.org/board-of-directors-1/

No wonder it's taking so long..

"2016: Ground-breaking on FEJ's new headquarters: the William Jefferson Clinton Children's Center, a project led by the US Green Building Council"

I guess they were just raising money since 2012?

Here's their timeline: https://www.fondationenfantjesus.org/what-we-do/

FEJ partners with Mission of Tears

Our official canadian partner supports a variety of FEJ's programs including volunteers teams, technical and financial support. http://www.missionoftears.ca

I want to put together a post of things previously covered on FEJ or CEJ

dreamwarrior23

The post that claimed Comey was working with Q now has more depth. I don't believe that we are not actively killing the enemy as the enemy has been killing our own. That's war. We know we are in a war. Did Comey signal to go ahead and take Mollie out? Committed by an illegal of all people, this surely contributes to the narrative of the good guys.

syntaxterror

https://postimg.cc/image/m6vginqh7/ [shrug] just something i noticed

kestrel9

Good eye, I really appreciate that link, thank you.

syntaxterror

:)

kestrel9

LOL well that is where they found her body. http://www.dps.state.ia.us/commis/pib/Releases/2018/08-21-2018_DPS_PressConference_PoweshiekCo.shtml

http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Press-conference-to-be-held-regarding-search-for-Mollie-Tibbetts-491352321.html

Plus the town is 150 years old this year, that alone is noteworthy Montezuma's Sesquicentennial Celebration - August 24th & 25th Celebrating 150 Years of Home: 1828~2018

:)

Piscina

Like little Jon Benet, whose father was (from memory) working for Northrop Grumman.

Truthseeker3000

This will sound awful, but I do believe Molly’s father “sacrificed” her for something big. This is rather common in luciferian/Freemason/Kabbalah/Illuminati circles. When sacrificing a loved one, especially a child, you are granted something great and made powerful. I’m thinking along the lines of business and money. We should watch him closely now and check records to see what he owns business wise, etc. However, these people have Swiss accounts and hide money everywhere they can. He definitely moved up the ranks, that I can guarantee. Sick fuck.

dundundunnnnn

Interesting.

Now I'm wondering about business connections made post mortem for the parents of McCann and Ramsey.

Indigo-

I think your spot on.

carmencita

This was a comment from an article on Heavy. Any relation to Col. Paul Tibbetts, pilot of the Enola Gay?

https://heavy.com/news/2018/07/mollie-tibbetts-family-parents-molly-tibbets/

So far I discovered he had two sons Paul III And Gene Wingate Tibbetts Both have passed away. Did they have children? Don't know yet. What another crazy turn this would be if they were related. But who knows.

Joe10jo

Wow! I see the name “Wingate” and another high-profile murder comes to mind; that of Dana Wingate who was only about 16 at the time when he was bludgeoned with a claw hammer along with 2 members of the Sharp family in what’s known as the Keddie Murders, from Way back in like 1980 outside of Quincy, California. They were murdered while the little girl Tina taken and all that was found of her three years later was her skull.

carmencita

Now that Wingate goes with Col. Paul Tibbetts pilot of the Enola Gay his wife's name was Enola Gay, I believe. Have not connected them to the father or any parents of Mollie T. But would be a Bombshell really. Would have to connect this family with the Mollie Tibbetts family.

Shizy

Paul Tibbets mother was Ebola Gaye

carmencita

I know.

carmencita

Bingo! Good of you to catch that. I kept wondering why that name kept nagging at me. I don't remember the details like you do, but do connect it to a murder and girl. WOW is right!

RageAgainstTheAmish

There are too many connections in too many places for any of this to be fake

Pizzalawyer

I do not see any where in news where Rob left his job in San Fran prior to Mollies disappearance. He went out to Iowa to help but was sent home after several weeks to let police tend to this. Im sure he has gone back there since the discovery of her body.

Rob last saw her a year. ago at his wedding. where she served as his best man. Robs background explains some aspects of this case given what we now know of HOK.

This is a power company with execs accustomed to schmoozing with powerful people which may or may not be connected to satanists. Rob may have put all his energies into publicizing his daughter's predicament and obtaining large funds for a reward. He may have established the reward with his own funds because he had the capacity to do so. He and HOK are the big players accustomed to being in charge. Can you imagine letting the police force of a town of 1500 take charge.

The description of Mollie was over-the-top due in large part to her father. Things and people are bigger for these folks, their offspring bigger and better. Mollie was lovely and full of promise like millions of other coeds but in the last analysis was an ordinary girl. Some weird elements to his interviews but California and their inhabitants are weird. Laura Calderwood Tibbits escaped Cal. a decade ago taking her 3 children with her.

The farm industry and the horse industry is chock full of latin immigrants legal and otherwise.

The building in Haiti is hideous and does not do credit to HOKs typical projects. It looks like a Motel 6 covered with bars "cleverly" in the shape of children. I bet it cost gazillions to build with actual construction costs a pittance with obscene profits for HOK in the end. HOK along with construction and architectural firms around USA were still. staggering in 2010 from the Great Recession that began in 2008. Haiti helped so many ruthless businessmen recover from the GR. Hail to the Clintons! May they rot in hell. It always comes. back to the Clintons, doesnt it.

kestrel9

I have a couple minutes, (hard to be away from computer with so things to discuss!)

The building in Haiti is hideous and does not do credit to HOKs typical projects.

A pro bono case with HOK and U.S. Green Building Council. Started raising money in 2012? By 2014 they said "next year!"....by 2017 they said "April 2018!"...still not sure if it's open.

But consider angles, logistics (not accusing any particular person/or HOK or UGBC as a whole): CF or CGI working deals, facilitating contracts for their donors. Consider potential for money laundering operation. How convenient for people to travel the world, stopping in Haiti to see how the building's coming along etc. How convenient would it be to have nodes along trafficking routes and other logistical (VIP?) advantages, (like airports your company or your donors built?)

carmencita

I think it is a fake place just like his Sustainability site in Haiti. He set that up and some of the Lincoln Park Band were even there with him at an event. Sick stuff they have been passing off on us all. Sustainability is what they are all about. Bill C has been setting up fake Sustainability sites all over with the latest fakery in PR. Some of the same players from Haiti. I think you are right about how that place looks. Looks like something someone started and then ran out of money.

RIPJem

On target as always.

What is Sustainability?

What is Sustainable?

Who started Sustainable Development?

Who is Sustainability for?

What are resilient communities?

What is the Delphi method?

Define population control.

Where is the model for Sustainability?

Where is the model for Community Policing?

What President was instrumental in creating Sustainable Development?

What Presidential candidate was instrumental in creating Community Policing?

Where did Al Capone vacation? Who took over after he left? Who is in charge now?

Why is water so important?

Where is the model for 5G AI and The Mark of the Beast?

Is the World ready for The Truth?

PickledGrapefruit

What is James Comey doing in Iowa with Trump?

Pizzalawyer

I wish Trump would outlaw the word sustainability, it is so abused and used to exploit $$. Costly projects justified by sustainability features such as LED lighting, Bill giving his dumb blond paramour in Westchester millions and millions to retrofit a few old buildings with additional insulation. I fervantly hope that millions of citizens pour out onto the streets in celebration of the death of one of the Clintons while the other gets to witness proof that they are despised...and all this coming from a former Democrat who voted for Bill in 1992 thinking he was the new JFK! Ill have a stroke if I dont change the subject soon.

Shizy

"Sustainability" =Agenda 21

I don't think their idea of sustainability includes sustaining "us".

RIPJem

Miracles CAN happen.

If you re-read Everything else Wisconsin_is_Corrupt told Everyone all along, you will begin. to understand much more.

Whose Ability is Sustainability?

Are you finally beginning to understand the Great Deception and the Evil Agenda?

Did those who downvoted the post below bother to visit the link?

Who was the key connections between the Foundation and McCain Institute, the Emauels, the Podestas, and the Pilgrims Society?

Do you know any of these or other questions posed recently below and in other posts?

Do you still want to silence The Truth, or do you Trust in Jesus Christ, deny The Mark, and want to know The Truth?

What is Sustainable?

Who started Sustainable Development?

Who is Sustainability for?

What are resilient communities?

What is the Delphi method?

Define population control.

Where is the model for Sustainability?

Where is the model for Community Policing?

What President was instrumental in creating Sustainable Development?

What Presidential candidate was instrumental in creating Community Policing?

Where did Al Capone vacation? Who took over after he left? Who is in charge now?

Why is water so important?

Where is the model for 5G AI and The Mark of the Beast?

Is the World ready for The Truth?

carmencita

You nearly have me a stroke. I fell for it too. Hook line and sinker. Cc again with BO. EEK. Never again.

RIPJem

Who do they worship?

What is his greatest ability?

You have more than you know.

The Truth is Here.

Blacksmith21

So Tibbet's was a foster kid?

Pizzalawyer

no, she was the daughter of Rob and Laura of Calif. who split up 10.years ago with Laura taking Mollie and her two brothers to Iowa.

Blacksmith21

Ah OK....I keep seeing talk of "real parents" being tossed about.

PickledGrapefruit

Comey's daughter.

Blacksmith21

So Comey's daughter is adopted?

Pizzalawyer

no pickle is messing with you. I think some confusion arose because Mollies mother had always kept her maiden name and father remarried a year ago to woman who took his last name.

PickledGrapefruit

yeah

carmencita

https://twitter.com/AlwaysIntegrity/status/1033059533797642240 Her father left his job 8 days before she disappeared and WHAT?

Her real parents live in Minnesota? First I heard this.

Joe10jo

To me, she looks a little Asian. This post is the first I’ve heard of her having other parents (bc I don’t have cable and refuse to check MSM websites) but her mom doesn’t appear Asian, what about her dad?

carmencita

Well, he doesn't look Asian either. AND it is hard to find personal info on them. I mean other than your ordinary variety. It seems almost as if info is being controlled. Hmm. I wonder who would be doing that. I don't have cable either and have to depend on local news. Just the bare minimum. I think I would faint if they brought up the Comey in the cornfield subject. LOL.

bibigirl_

I wonder Is it one of the Rothschilds resilient cities

RIPJem

On target.

http://www.johnsonfdn.org/

kestrel9

I've got a little mini rant at the moment, you don't need to take it personally.

On target

Really?

Our legacy spans 50 years. Several organizations were conceived here, among them: the National Endowment for the Arts, National Public Radio, the International Criminal Court and the Presidential Climate Action Plan. Wingspread, the centerpiece of our campus, is a designated U.S. National Historic Landmark.

Freaking huge! But instead of dropping this gold nugget say, dunno 13 days ago?..or whenever WIC team did what you started up again, like....A YEAR AND A HALF AGO!!!! NO, you and WIC cryptically highbrow people when you could have not only dropped this lead, but written about it... IT explains ALOT, it gives direction, all encapsulated just in this lead.

Okay so now you've posted the link, done. So GTFO with your Utter BULLSHIT! Because if you were anything but a fraud you could have written about this a long time ago, instead of indulging either in demonic pride or banal shitposting disguised as murky evangelic warnings, and rumor has it... STALKING behavior.

"Oh miracles CAN happen" RIPper claps hands at children slow to understand... "Oh Are you finally beginning to understand the Great Deception and the Evil Agenda?" RIPper the Sage gently chides with most condescending self indulgence.

Yes Great PG Phantom presence, we're 5:5.

So GTFO.

RIPJem

The Truth has been here since THE BEGINNING.

Haven't you seen the disinformation and attacks by the mods and others involved in their desperate attempts to Hide and Silence The Truth?

We are not Sarah. We are not a bot. Only a fool would believe those absurd claims.

Many Good People have been threatened, doxxed, attacked, tortured and murdered to share The Truth. You may not realize how extremely dangerous it is for those who know The Truth. Jenny Moore is only one of many victims.

Why do you Trust the mods who are lying to you and slandering Jenny who was a member of this very community? Did you know her personally? We did.

Re-read everything that Wisconsin_is_Corrupt told you over a year and a half ago.

Who did Jenny come back to Voat to meet with? What happened? Did you watch the videos?

The Truth is right in front of you. Only a fool or Pure Evil would deny it.

Do you want to accept Lies and The Mark of the Beast, or do you want know The Truth?

kestrel9

I wasn't talking about Jenny Moore. I was talking to you.

RIPJem

You have become confused by listening to Liars. We NEVER lie. We told you LONG ago what and where The Truth is.

The Truth is clear and obvious to those who seek The Truth.

Try reading everything again. Do you think Wisconsin_is_Corrupt EVER lied to you? We are not your enemy unless you are EVIL. We are here to Share The Truth with those who have the Will to Believe in Jesus Christ.

Clouded by your spite and misjudgment, and confused those who wish to deceive you, you are simply missing The Truth.

Why do you think Jenny was murdered? Why do you think the mods ganged up to attack, dox, threaten, slide, downvote and slander Jenny and anyone who defends her and The Truth? Who did she return to meet with?

Everything is connected. Stop believing liars who control the votes and false narrative.

think-

Hi @kestrel9 , please add two or three sentences at the top of your post about this case. Otherwise, people who have been on a holiday or are from abroad, and don't know anything about this case, won't know what the post is about.

Also, you might put the link to @DerivaUK 's post at the top of your post, so that people can easily read the background story that led to your submission.

Thanks! Please keep up the good work.

I'll give you the '24 hours Grace' flair, so that you'll have some time to edit.

@EricKaliberhall

kestrel9

Done :)

think-

Thank you, @kestrel9 , great intro! :-) I already removed the flair.

Snailracer

It might be possible that the rest of Rob Tibbetts familly is being threatened to get him to cooperate with something. He seemed like he thought that Mollie was dead when being interviewed before her body was found.

Joe10jo

What I thought was strange was when the mother said to a reporter that she just knew that Mollie would be found safe & sound and back home before they went on a vacation next week. Like, who would give a shit about a vacation at that point. Just seemed like an odd thing to reference.

kestrel9

He may know too much about international connections?

DerivaUK

Mollies father, Rob Tibbetts left his job 5 days or so before she disappeared. Something just doesn’t sit right, does it?

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Brooklyn Iowa - Is like Many towns across this country. Seems Like a normal- Quite, small town. But it's a town where not only does everyone know Each other.... They all share Secrets. Many Secrets .... Their Bond with each other is strengthened Knowing that Any One "secret" could lead to all subsequent, (Or many) "secrets" Being uncovered...

It's not just the family That Is sketch- There are dozens of People involved. Doesn't mean dozens of people were involved in the Murder- But If People don't play their roll- They are putting their own, Seemingly unrelated, Secrets at risk..

If you call In fake Tips To saturate the tip line - (Which they always do with these Types of kidnapping/murders) You're involved....

If you Tell reporters, "This is such a quite town- Where everyone leaves their doors unlocked, anD we're all just Living the slow life" (when You damn well know what is going on in that town) You're involved.

If you're On the police Force- And Do anything other than Follow the evidence ... "You're involved"

I don't think The boyfriend was involved in the actual murder- But I think He was out of town, And she was staying at his house watching The dogs Was no coincidence.

Obviously if it was an illegal alien who killed her, He wasn't random-

I have too many things I'm working on- I simply can't do my own Research into the case- I can only speculate based on the reporting of this case, (Which I haven't been following too closely either) and It's similarities to the Standard Modus Operendi pertaining to kidnapping/murders In These sort of "Shadow towns."

Has There been any connection made to ms-13 yet?

Gilderoy

Interesting that the name of the town is Brooklyn. Remember last summer when Donal Logue's transgender son/daughter, Jade Logue, went missing from Brooklyn Heights? His/her father posted some strange messages, too, as if he knew who had his child.

For example, he said this:

On Friday, the “Gotham” star also begged Jade to reach out to them as soon as possible. “I love her and I know her tribe is strong (I’ve met many wonderful people through Jade). But there are some predators who swim among their ranks knowing they’re dealing with sweet, trusting souls. We want you home Jade. Whoever knows where she is, whoever may be with her– clearly this thing has become big and crazy. The net has been flung far and wide and luckily, I have dogged teams from the NYPD, FBI, and others involved. The point is, you may have had good intentions to help her, but I’m sure you realize that this situation is bigger than you could’ve anticipated. It’s okay. Just drop her off. Let her get back in touch with her mother, Kasey, or me — we’ll take her back, with hugs and no questions asked. Contact us If you have any information regarding Jade’s disappearance or Detective Frank Liuzzi at 718 636 6547. There is an “out” for this situation that works for all involved. We promise.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

The deepstate/shadow government- (I know their different but it applies to both) Love their names. The same names, In different states, usually mean the same thing- Or you can expect to find the same thing...Names mean the same thing, DOWN TO the street... Hell-Even the Number Of the addresses has significance... Which we won't get into now, but Streets Include but are not limited : Euclid, Walnut, Front st, Hope, Elm, Fulton, MONROE, to name a few- Find those streets In any given city, And you've found a ratline of fuckery.

As far as what You posted about dude knowing who has the child- THEY ALWAYS DO. Always. If not the specific person, They could take a guess....OR They know its not "Random" lets just say that....And the dude says.

. “I love her and I know her tribe is strong

Did you share that quote with me because he mentiones "The Tribe?" Because that's exactly what I'm talking about in my Original Comment. It's like how Comet ping Pong employees refereed to themselves being in a "TRIBE"

This shit isn't about People Breaking bad- They are literally born into it...we have 3 generations of Deepstate Fuckery at play.... If you find someone involved In the deepstate shit show between 20-35yr old chances are their parents, And their grandparents are also involved... You go down south or to the inner cities of cleveland, or Philly, and you got 4 generations at play- fucking great grand parents, To grand kids involved.

Shit be cray cray. It's so much bigger than anyone has come close to addressing.

And TO CLARIFY- THERE ARE A SHIT TON OF VARYING LEVELS...Not everyone involved, Kidnaps and fucks kids- That's simply not the case- But Regardless of the severity, They all share secrets.

Gilderoy

You're blowing my mind! I had no idea towns and street names being the same was deliberate---which reminds me that I did notice once how many towns named "St. Alban's" there are, which is odd since the first St. Alban's is the location of the original Hellfire Club, but that's another story altogether.

Thanks for the insights about "The Tribe" and the glimmer of hope that not all people involved are willing participants and would hopefully be willing to expose the rest if they could do so safely. That's a beautiful thought, really.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Dude. I'm going to lose all credibility- But since you brought Up Hell fire club- I have a whole"Thing" on Jack tapper being a double agent White hatter.... Or, basically... HIs fucking book on the hellfire, Is a memoir.... Like I get he's the worst of the worst On cnn... But his worst of the worst, In combination with his appearances where he's NOT playing an anchor on CNN... Leads me to believe this dude is a closet Trump junkie.... And Knows that he only helps Trump, By continuing to do what he's been doing.

And I dunno if you're aware he just recently published a book about the hellfire club- Which Is Why I decided to rant to you about jake tapper.... Or wait- Maybe it wasn't the hell fire club he wrote about- I might be retarded.

That being Said, I never heard Of St albans- So considering there's a lot of those- Then yea- Probably fuckery afoot in those towns. But dude, It's like, Harder TO find A town that doesn't have fuckery a foot to be honest- Never the less... Specific Names help narrow it down.

Gilderoy

Amazing. I've had a similar hunch about Jake Tapper. There's just something about him that seems decent. The only reason I brought up St. Alban's in England was because of the caves near St Alban's in Medmenham Abbey that were the meeting place for the original Hellfire Club. (I had a bee in my bonnet about caves a while back.)

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

Bro- You're not gonna believe this... So I was watching some random youtube thing last night I was going to bed.... AND WHAT DO I HEAR AS I'm falling asleep?

Mother fuckers start talking about how Francis Bacon was Also Called St alban... I couldn't believe my fucking ears.... I've literally never heard, or seen that word prior to your comment... Then less than a few hours later a randomly stumble on to something about "Francis Bacon, 1st Viscount St Alban"

Crazy shit I tell you...

Gilderoy

It is crazy stuff. I first saw "St. Alban's" during the Thai cave rescue. The British caver that Elon Musk called a "pedo guy" is from St. Alban's, and there's more . . . .

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

There's always more..... Lol

carmencita

I just posted a tweet about him leaving the job about 8 days before. Exactly. Just doesn't sit right. Something is all wrong with this whole thing. Did he know ahead of time that she would be taken? There is something really strange about Rob, I have had a weird feeling about him from the start. Someone claims her real parents live in Minnesota as well. Is this another Fake Story Problem brought to us by the DS Cabal? It's starting to look like it. Also the possible MK Ultra criminal they have pinned this on was an employee of a rich farmer connected to some DC Politician. As usual you can't make this stuff up. I see a movie in the offing.

pby1000

A la Johnny Gosch? His father betrayed his son.

carmencita

I sure hope not. But if he’s tied up with the cabal and playing games with Bill C. Well then the sky’s the limit. Geez that would be awful.

Joe10jo

Speaking of Johnny Gosch, nothing would make me happier than for us Pizzagater’s here on Voat to dig nonstop till we find Johnny’s dad and get some answers! And dig till we find buried info that maybe other family members or friends know about. That case drives me crazy!!

carmencita

A lot of the children that were within those elite rings were sold off by their own parents. Now I am not saying all of them, for some were trafficked and parents are still looking for them. But yes, it would be great to hunt him down. I am sure he is doing everything possible to keep from being found. His life is in jeopardy if he talks.

Pizzalawyer

I dont link but posters should. However we eed some links from. OP or commentators re. Robs departure fromSan Fran prior to Mollies disappearance. b/c folks are drawing inferences which may or may not be valid. @carmencita and @deriveuk

Factfinder2

Why don't you link? Just curious.

Pizzalawyer

laziness and clumsiness with cellphone. everybody is welcome to research my info and make a post. i do walk around with quite abit of stuff already in my head as ive been an anti-establishment researcher for a loooong time. Im not always right and will stand corrected. I also just like logic and debate. My days of hardworking advocacy are over and im enjoying the view from the recliner.

kestrel9

I'll be gone all day, if I have a chance later I may read more about him.

Pizzalawyer

thanks, ive read about 20+ news articles and still cant find anything about alleged departure PRIOR to disappearance. Maybe the dad got mixed up with the boyfriend who in fact left town prior to the disappearance.

carmencita

Yes this story is all over the place.