This is a Q post from today.. Picture of Gloria and Cooper with the caption "Symbolism will be their downfall"

https://imgur.com/a/Vmt3cec

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@Zzzmmm333 , your first thesis, that the BD paintings point to the Biltmore as a twisted playground for the rich, fulfills our submission requirements okay. Your second thesis -- that "they travel underground straight in to the Estate and it is all taken care of at Wonderland" via tunnels and underground train tracks -- not so much.

Why is this relevant? Well I believe that it would only make sense for them to have constructed their own private railway, or at least tunnels which could later be converted to rail, under this Estate. This would make for the perfect way to bring in their "guests" at night.

Your only evidence supporting this thesis appears to be that the Vanderbilts built railroads. There doesn't appear to be any evidence at all for the thesis that Comet Ping Pong is a "station" in this hypothetical railroad.

Furthermore, you have included the idea, which was very heavily shilled during the beginning of our investigation and turned out to be disinfo, that people go to Comet to choose from a "menu".

Since we have a separate subverse for purely speculative material and our submission requirements clearly state posts to v/pizzagate should be research posts that are backed by linked source material only, I will say that this thread looks like an attempt to give credence to the MSM narrative that Pizzagate and QAnon are crazy, ridiculous conspiracy theories.

However, I'm going to give this the benefit of the doubt for the moment and give you a 24 Hour Grace flair, so that you can edit to provide sources for the things lacking evidence and remove the disinfo and pure speculation. You can speculate in the Comment section, of course.

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Some secrets underground at Grand Central

Secret Sub-basement M42

By the 1940s, the equivalent of 40 percent of the U.S. population traveled through Grand Central every year, and during World War II millions of servicemen passed through Grand Central on their way to and from the front—so many that the U.S. government opened a special branch of the USO inside the station. Considering its high profile and vital importance to the U.S. war effort, its perhaps not surprising that Grand Central was the target of Nazi sabotage during the war. In 1942, four German spies snuck on to Long Island with plans to destroy key logistical locations in the northeast, including Grand Central. They were quickly apprehended, but if they had made their way to the station’s secret subbasement, known as M42, they would have been met with an awesome sight—a platoon of armed soldiers, who monitored the super-secret outpost. To this day, M42 has never appeared on any maps of Grand Central, and behind its doors remain the controls of New York’s transportation network. Find out more about M42 here.

Secret sub-basement proves there are Secrets. This area was never on any maps of Grand Central. What were they hiding?

Track 61

It’s likely that many a commuter has wished for a short cut that would whisk them to their destination without the hassle of Grand Central’s bustling, rush hour crowds. For one native New Yorker, that wish was a reality. During his time in office, President Franklin Roosevelt utilized a secret rail line, Track 61, which provided an underground connection between Grand Central and the nearby Waldorf-Astoria hotel. There was even a large freight elevator at the Waldorf’s end of the track, big enough to fit the president’s Pierce Arrow limousine, which allowed FDR to travel to and from New York in secrecy—quite handy for clandestine missions as he led the U.S. war effort during World War II.

There is a pic of this Track 61 but we should not be fooled. It may very well still be in use after renovations.

'Very high speed' underground trains were considered feasible back in 1972, so who knows if they already exist all over the world:

• 'L.A. to N.Y. in Half an Hour? 10,000 – M.P.H. Tunnel Train Plan Developed' - LA Times via Infowars.com ; archive

(1972) A Rand corporation physicist has devised a rapid transit system to get you from Los Angeles to NY in half an hour for a $50 fair. He said existing technology made such a system feasible and so does a cost analysis.

image of LA Times article: https://www.scribd.com/document/90235576/10-000-MPH-Tube-Shuttles

• Original report - PDF: The Very High Speed Transit System (1972)

Think we need to be careful with some of our references. The very graphic account of the baby being killed by satanists is a tale told by Pam Schuffert .

On 'shanghaing', Prohibition, tunnels and the Vanderbilts:

https://www.legendsofamerica.com/or-shanghai/

Since the mid-19th century, stories have been told about shanghai practices in Portland. Not only men but women, too were warned to take care against being drugged or kidnapped and hauled off for sale. Women were allegedly shanghaied for use as prostitutes rather than ship’s laborers. Although other ports along the West Coast including San Francisco are said to have been centers of shanghai activity, Portland’s underground tunnels are claimed to have made the practice much more manageable and wide-spread than in other areas.

During Prohibition, it is said that bars moved their operations underground, as well, making it easier than ever for unsuspecting victims to be shanghaied. Some researchers estimate that as many as 1,500 people a year were shanghaied through Portland’s Underground. Entire scenarios about the practices and experiences of the shanghaied in the tunnels have been created and elaborated on over the years.

https://www.thrillist.com/travel/nation/14-american-cities-with-crazy-underground-tunnel-systems-chicago-boston-new-york

Prohibition/Underground Railroad tunnel

Detroit loves its booze (yeah, Stroh’s!), and it’s perfectly logical that many of Motor City’s speakeasies had escape tunnels during that stupid time when booze was illegal. One notable example is Tommy’s on 3rd Street. Their secret passageway leads to Fort Street Presbyterian Church (across the street) and was also likely part of the Underground Railroad .

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20180624/news/664511/fords-michigan-central-station-office-workers-will-still-see-and-hear

What is known officially as the Michigan Central Railway Tunnel and its tracks were built in 1910 for $8.5 million by the Detroit River Tunnel Co. for Canada Southern Railway — financed ultimately by the wealthy Vanderbilt family of rail barons via its New York Central Railroad. The Vanderbilts opened the Michigan Central Station three years later at a cost of $2.5 million.

Detroit River Tunnel Company - https://kenkinlock.com/detroit-river-tunnel-company/

The tunnel is approximately 1.6 miles long and it cost over $8 million to build. The New York Central Railway’s engineering vice president, William J. Wilgus oversaw the construction. In 1906, the tunnel was operated by the Michigan Central Railroad. It has since changed hands many times throughout the years. Currently, the tunnel is owned by the Canadian Pacific Railway and Borealis Transportation.

You probably won’t be able to get close to the tunnel itself. The land around it is off-limits to the public and is routinely patrolled by the Homeland Security, the Canadian Pacific Police Service, CN Police, and the Detroit Police Department.

Interesting.

Can you give us a link to where Piscina provided the information or her source?

From Laurel Canyon (I'm currently reading the late Dave McGowan's Weird Scenes Inside The Canyon and it seems that LC was an utter cesspit of paedophilia and child pornography, with an extensive tunnel network underneath the sprawling 'Log Cabin' where the hippie movement was created, not to mention numerous inexplicable house fires) to the McMartin Preschool to CPP, there seems to be a recurring theme of tunnels which would ostensibly serve no practical purpose, given the nature of the properties under which they lie.

Very well done. This is an essential insight:

Think in all this research ALL these places have had a similar theme, they have all apparently had TUNNELS under them.. What if they are not tunnels but a rail network? Alice's adventures are UNDERGROUND in the story, soooo they venture underground to get to "Wonderland" a place that is backwards for us normal people but the perfect playground for these sickos.

I thought Biltmore was open to the public during certain hours?

Awesome work @Zzzmmm333

Is this from an Archer episode? It's almost like the whole series is based on someone's story or stories.

"We skinned that baby alive to the scream of 'hail, Satan!' We then draped it's intestines around the candlesticks of our altar. I cut the baby up into pieces, and each person ate some. Later, I took the skull and remains home. I forced the remains down the garbage disposal to conceal evidence from the police, and then burned a candle to Satan on the baby's skull.And when the mother, my girlfriend, felt bad about giving up her baby for sacrifice and went tot he police, we decided to make an example out of her as a warning to the rest of the coven:"

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UpVoat. will catch this later. I am all over this and agree!

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