Narcissism

Sorry again to burst your bubble of insanity regarding Thailand. I know of one of the cave divers (diving school instructor) and the event was 100% real. The Thai government doesn't engage in Psyops/ False Flags and has no history of having done so. Four of the boys including the coach are from Myanamar they are not Thai citizens. The boarder is in effect porous between the two countries as it extends for more than 2200Km. There are border points at Maesai/ Tachelek which the boys live nearby. Daily hundreds of people cross the border backwards and forwards, though children without papers wouldn't be allowed to cross at that point, so they would just cross the river elsewhere if they wanted to make a trip back home.

The are some NGO's here who sadly make a living from pretending that every adult from a neighboring country who comes over the border for work has been "trafficked". Its what gets them those 503c donations to keep them in luxury. Meanwhile, of course they do next to nothing with the money they rake in, and or are infiltrated by foreign agencies.

In Thailand most Western Pedos were kicked out years ago - any they suspect just get put on the black list. Its a fully computerized national system with facial recognition etc.. the days when people could just go home change their name and come back on a new passport are over. So Thailand is not a desirable Pedo destination these days.

There is still a local Thai problem but compared to Western countries its small and tends to occur in the outer fringes of society. I shared the story here a while back of one brave friend who was part of a bust for an under age girl place. So it does occur but the government cracks down wherever it arises.

Elan Musk was just pissed that he couldn't get to play the hero (Classic Narcissist) so when thwarted he lashes out in order to keep himself at the center of attention of it all. For sure he will loose in court...

septimasexta

"Four of the boys including the coach are from Myanamar they are not Thai citizens."

According to a Reuters article I posted above:

"Attention has also focused on Ek’s status in Thailand.

He is a member of the Tai Lue minority, one of several groups whose people have over generations moved around the region, across open borders in remote hills between southern China, Myanmar and Laos, and into northern Thailand’s ethnic patchwork of communities.

Many such people do not have Thai citizenship papers and are officially stateless."

You tried and failed to make one think the boys and coach were citizens of Myanamar. THEY WERE STATELESS. Perfect targets for trafficking. I'm sure that cave system has been known and nefariously used for GENERATIONS. Probably used for drug trafficking as well.

Narcissism

"According to a Reuters article I posted above:" Reuters as owned by the Rothschild's since 1890. Did you also believe them when they told you Building 7 fell 25 minutes before it got nuked?

The coaches parents live in Myanmar and the coach was born there - therefore he is a citizen of Myanmar. And if he chose to walk into a Myanmar immigration office they would issue him with a Myanmar Workers ID + and a few days later a passport like they do for millions of Myanmar workers in Thailand.

septimasexta

"The coaches parents live in Myanmar and the coach was born there - therefore he is a citizen of Myanmar."

Where is your documentation? Links? I think Reuter's was doing a cover job. They knew it would come out that the "coach" and soccer players were not Tai citizens, so they put out a spin ahead of the news, garnering sympathy for these "stateless" youth.

Golden Triangle: Thailand, Laos, Myanmar (Google maps) "Golden triangle compassing parts of Thailand, Laos, Myanmar/Burma, and Yunnan province of China has been well-known as opium producing region in mass media and history text books all over the world. How and when the opium came to this region is much less known or interested. However now peoples can see some insight into the history of opium at the Hall of Opium located on the Thai side of Golden Triangle." http://ourweb.info/01/maps/golden-triangle.shtml

"Previously, the term “Golden Triangle” referred to the area to the west – around Doi Mae Salong / Thoed Thai. There, a mere 20+ year ago, opium warlord Khun Sa‘s 15,000 strong militia army supervised production of most of the world’s illicit narcotics…"

"The majority of the population are ethnic Thai. Approximately 12.5% of the population belong to the various hill tribe groups, a colourful minority in northern Thailand. These include Akha, Yao, Lisu, Lahu, Tai Yai, Tai Lue etc. A minority are of Chinese descent, mainly descendants of the defeated Nationalist (Kuomintang) Chinese Army 93rd Division. Mostly of Yunnese origin, they moved from Myanmar into northern Thailand in the early196o’s and settled settled in the region, primarily but not exclusively in Doi Mae Salong (aka Santikhiri)." https://www.thegtrider.com/tour-options/chiang-rai

"Other minorities are Tai Ya and Tai Lue. They can’t be classified as tribes or ethnic minorities but they are different from Thai people in customs, language and traditional dress." https://www.green-trails.com/ethnic-minorities-in-northern-thailand/

"Non-Hilltribe Ethnic Groups

In areas along the western border with Myanmar, there are many Tai Yai (Shan) and Karen from Myanmar’s Shan State.

Along the Mekong (eastern border) there are many Tai Lue people. The Tai Lue (Dai Lue) inhabited both sides of the Mekong River in the Sipsongpanna region of Yunnan, southern China. https://www.asian-recipe.com/thailand/th-information/hill-tribes.html

"Day 9: Chiang Rai – Pakbeng | The Gateway to Laos – Journey Down the Mekong

Meals: Breakfast, Lunch, Dinner Transfer early in the morning to the Friendship Bridge. Here our guide will drop you off and bid you farewell. You’ll go through Thailand exit customs. Then board a local government operated shuttle across the bridge($1 per person is the current shuttle rate and this is not included in the tour rate as we cannot pay them). On the other side, go through Laos immigration(visa available on arrival – see visa section). Upon exiting Laos immigration, our representative will greet you with a sign of SHOMPOO CRUISE in front of the Lao immigration office. Then transfer to the Houay Xay boat pier by tuk-tuk. Embark on the cruise down the Mekong. On the way, the boat will take its first stop at Pak Tha to have the boat documents signed. The second stop will be to visit a Tai Lue minority hill tribe village along the banks. Our guide will explain the way of living and the origins of these rural populations." https://luxevoyageasia.com/travel_packages/14-days-thailand-laos-culture-heritage-tour/

Narcissism

Correct its a Libtard angle sympathy pro-immigration story with a subtle dig at Myanmar, and Thailand in particular for not giving these "Stateless People" citizenship. Reality is that they are simply economic migrants no more "Stateless" than a Mexican who flips over the boarder into the US.

DeathToMasonsASAP

You are not credible and nobody is taking your word for it. Thailand constantly has false flag bombing events that are blamed on those the government wants to demonize. They lie about everything and a General seized power and elections haven't been allowed in years. The military and police are known to be trafficking drugs and have been accused of human trafficking. Thailand is beyond corrupt and your post is a laugher.

Narcissism

Which False Flag bombing event please be specific. And please show evidence of human trafficking by the military instead of "accusations" by the US government - now that is laughable!

rickman

This is probably something very simple which has got lost in translation and I'm driving myself mad for nothing.

When you search Worana Ratrawiphukkun on Facebook her name is the only result and by that I mean there are no results of people with the same or similar surname. Search full name - 1 result. Search surname - 1 result. What does Ratrawiphukkun mean and where did she get this name from?

She has another name in brackets - Suwimol Comkeaw. Searching this surname brings up multiple results on Facebook. This seems like its her real name, or her birth name. I don't know how names work in Thai culture so I don't know why she'd have two different names.

I searched Suwimol Comkeaw on LinkedIn. Her job experience reads - anything no tax at the best shop, Myanmar. She has one Interest, a leisure, travel & tourism company called Isarakarn. Also, when you click on her job experience entry it also takes you to this Isarakarn company.

Isarakarn is listed as a leisure, travel and tourism company with 1542 followers and 1513 employees on LinkedIn. This is obviously a big company. The website listed is a blogspot site which has actually been taken down. What's also odd about this company is that its employees are all listed as doing jobs completely unrelated to travel and tourism. A quick skim over the hundreds of people that have listed Isarakarn as an employer...

Banker at Isarakarn. Professor at Isarakarn. Economist at Isarakarn. Engineer at Isarakarn. Low Fat(??) at Isarakarn. Importation at Isarakarn. Doctor at Isarakarn. And many many others. Is this a glitch with LinkedIn that they will connect any job you've done with any company you've listed as an employer or have all of these people actually entered these random job titles at this travel and tourism company?

What does Ratrawiphukkun mean in English? What does Isarakarn mean in English? Why does Vernon Unsworth's girlfriends LinkedIn connect to a leisure, travel and tourism company under her own description of "anything no tax at the best shop"? Why is there no information online about Isarakarn that I can find, not even through Thai search engines? Why does Isarakarn with its 1500 employees have a half-hearted, cheap blogspot website which is no longer active and with WaybackMachine results only going to last year? Why are the employees of Isarakarn all listed with random job titles and descriptions that have nothing to do with leisure, travel and tourism?

I expect there to be a logical answer for this but right now its doing my head in.

Zzzmmm333

Well... Just reading what you've said has my mind buzzing, but it's too late to start researching for me.now otherwise I'll be up all night! This I will certainly look in to tomorrow, thank you for adding, and just incase shit starts dissappearing could you please archive a few of those pages? I have a hunch you may have discovered something of importance.. As what you've said makes no sense atm.

rickman

Thanks. The more I looked into it the weirder it got.

Zzzmmm333

Well let's hope Elon getting sued will expose any cracks in this whole scenario!

rickman

I never got why Vernon Unsworth was so angry and rude at Musk's offer to help. It came across as him being desperate to shut down any involvement from outsiders.

Pablolove

Don't know what to believe sometimes. Thought Craig sawyer was one of the good guys🤔

Gilderoy

Thanks for continuing to cover this incident. My spidey senses were tingling about it from the get-go. I wonder if "wild boars" is code for something. Do the pedophiles hunt young boys in caves? I don't know, I hate to even suggest it, but I just wonder. Is it significant, or not, hat when Theresa May posed with the Thai cave rescuers she was wearing BRIGHT RED shoes:

https://assets.thaivisa.com/forum/uploads/monthly_2018_07/may.jpg.ffc8aa03325e3721e36e516a33c0a6d5.jpg

Zzzmmm333

Typical red shoes. And that's a good point, well its not good but you know what I mean, about "Wild Boars" possibly being a code word. Because what do people do with wild boars? Hunt them... And another GOAT added that some of the boys come from villages that move around and have came from.across the border, therefore have no papers and are not citizens.. Perfect for these sickos.

Yuke

I also didn't realize that the cave was so close to the border with Myanmar (Burma), it is only a couple of miles away. Add that knowledge to the knowledge of how deep into the cave system they were (over 2 miles) and the fact that they were travelling in a westerly direction, which is towards that border, and it does indeed look a lot like they were being trafficked.

Zzzmmm333

Yea so we're meant to believe that they just went for a "quick" 3 mile stroll in to the caves after training? When I heard how deep they were I thought WTF are they doing that far in.. And now old Vern was supposed to be in there the next day, in a cave that possibly links to Myanmar?? This is no coincidence! Could we say that the "coach" was taking them to a certain point, possibly a camp, in the cave then Vern and Sawyer were to take them through to Myanmar where they would have been transported to fuck knows where?

Factfinder2

And since the Myanmar project was interrupted, the boys after being "rescued" were taken to a monastery near Thailand's border with...wait for it...Myanmar.

https://www.masslive.com/living/index.ssf/2018/07/thai_boys_rescued_from_cave_enter_buddhist_monastery.html

"The boys will reportedly be ordained at a temple on Chiang Rai mountaintop but will return to Wat Pha That Doi Wao monastery near Thailand's northern border with Myanmar, which said to be closer for their families to visit."

Zzzmmm333

I don't get how the fuck they can just take these kids to a fucking monastery... Like did the parents have any say in this?? I'd LOVE to talk to the parents, if they even exist or are even alive! I have a friend who lives in Thailand, I might ask him what the word is over there about it.. And of course they went to one near Myanmar!

Factfinder2

Exactly. It'd be very interesting to hear what your friend in Thailand has to say.

Zzzmmm333

Yea i'll shoot him an email and see what the word is over there, he'll probably say "what cave rescue?" lol I'll mention this as well, he might be able to find out some info because he's been there for a few years now.

Yuke

Exactly. It's very suspicious.

Yuke

They were found over 3 miles into the cave. That's not just nipping in for a look around now is it!

This from Wikipedia on Vernon Unsworth: "Vern Unsworth, a British caver mapping the cave, stated, "Nobody’s to blame, not the coach, not the boys. They were just very unlucky ... It wasn’t just the rain that day, the mountain is like a sponge and waters from earlier rain were raising the levels". Unsworth said that he himself had been planning to make a solo venture into the complex on 24 June , when he received a telephone call saying the boys were missing there." - the boys entered the cave on 23 June. What a coincidence! Wiki link here

Piscina

Anatomy of a coverup . Less than two days after Sawyer was told about the child torture camping site, it was bulldozed.

Zzzmmm333

Yes funny that.. Why bulldoze a supposed crime scene of apparent child traffickers he's supposedly hunting?

So Yuke just found this awesome but of info that adds even more strength to this..

This from Wikipedia on Vernon Unsworth: "Vern Unsworth, a British caver mapping the cave, stated, "Nobody’s to blame, not the coach, not the boys. They were just very unlucky ... It wasn’t just the rain that day, the mountain is like a sponge and waters from earlier rain were raising the levels". Unsworth said that he himself had been planning to make a solo venture into the complex on 24 June, when he received a telephone call saying the boys were missing there." - the boys entered the cave on 23 June. What a coincidence!

Piscina

This is interesting. A 'camp' was found in Tucson. Toys, clothing, breakfast cereals such as lucky charms, usually eaten by children, were found. The article says:

There was also what appeared to be a "rape tree" with straps made of strips of fire hose and nylon about 4 feet off the ground that appeared to be restraints. Trees with restraints, children’s clothing, a baby crib, a stroller, an outdoor bathroom, pornographic material, hair dye and a five feet tall underground cave that had a dresser and crates. The cave was not big enough for an adult, but a child could easily fit inside.

Mayer of Tucson is Jonathon Rothschild. Cemex, a big donor to Clinton, owns the site. Sawyer initially was called to the site and agreed it was a child trafficking/torture site. He then backpeddled and had all the evidence destroyed . He's protecting them, not rooting them out.

Blacksmith21

There are a ton of threads on this subject on GA and PG subs.

septimasexta

This is the first I've heard of an Israeli involvement in the cave rescue:

Israeli diver warns effort to extract Thai boys from cave could end in disaster 6 July 2018, 9:45 am

"An Israeli father-son team aiding in the effort to rescue a Thai soccer team trapped in a flooded cave are casting doubts over the viability of extracting the group through the water, saying it could end in a “catastrophe.”"

"Rafael Aroush, who has lived in Thailand for decades, said the death underscored the difficulty that the boys, aged 11-16, and their 25-year-old coach, will face in trying to swim out of the cave."

"Aroush on Thursday drove with his son Shlomi from his home in Udan Thani province to the Tham Luang Nang Non cave to help with the rescue effort, joining other Israelis also providing support at the site."

"The complexity of the cave was underscored by the need for a special communications system, which an Israeli team from the firm Maxtech rushed out to set up earlier this week.

In the system, a string of small devices, similar to handheld radios, pass wireless communications between each other, enabling a link in places regular radios won’t work, such as where there are major obstacles blocking the line-of-sight between the two ends of the line." https://www.timesofisrael.com/israeli-diver-warns-effort-to-extract-thai-boys-from-cave-could-end-in-disaster/

Zzzmmm333

So we have Americans. Britts, Aussies and now Israelis involved?? WTF was going on there...

septimasexta

Coach of rescued Thai soccer team a 'country boy' longing for citizenship

"Attention has also focused on Ek’s status in Thailand.

He is a member of the Tai Lue minority, one of several groups whose people have over generations moved around the region, across open borders in remote hills between southern China, Myanmar and Laos, and into northern Thailand’s ethnic patchwork of communities.

Many such people do not have Thai citizenship papers and are officially stateless.

Weenat Seesuk, an interior ministry official in Bangkok, said Ek and three of the rescued boys from the “Wild Boars” soccer team were stateless." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-thailand-accident-cave-coach/coach-of-rescued-thai-soccer-team-a-country-boy-longing-for-citizenship-idUSKBN1K21H8

septimasexta

The radio set up sounds very suspicious. Was it already in place? If the caves were so dangerous for divers, and some were filled to the ceiling with water, were some of the radios under water? How did the divers get them in place so fast? Why didn't the US MSM highlight their work and heroics? Was there a drug bust /trafficking operation going on? This is obviously NOT a case of a soccer team going for a stroll in a cave. In research for the original VOAT post on this topic, I discovered that the soccer team WERE NOT TAI CITIZENS. They were from a bordering region where they have NO CITIZENSHIP at all! How convenient for a child trafficking target....

Factfinder2

Here is Sawyer on film talking about how he just happened to be in the exact city of Chiang Rai on his way to Bangkok when the cave rescue was going down. That level of coincidence is not credible, in my view, especially since he himself expresses no amazement at the supposed synchronicity.

https://youtu.be/fcYvLuRQqVg?t=48

kazza64

how come the boys were packed off to a monastary when they got back their parents saw them for a hot minute and then they were all whisked away to be monks was it to stop them sharing information ?

Narcissism

Its very common and part of the culture to stay in a temple to make merit for a few weeks after a traumatic event. In this case they are thanking for their lives, to all who helped, and make merit for the death of the Thai Navy Seal. Honestly, if they didn't go into the temple for a few weeks after something like this it would look bad in a Buddhist culture.

kazza64

interesting ..... i forgot that guy died :(

redwing14

I think elon is part of the elite pizzagate abusers. He has a wicked need to change society drastically, that its probable that he dislikes humanity. On joe rogans podcast he revealed subtly his dislike of humanity. Joe later jokes for Elon to not enslave and eat humans as our overlord. He keeps hinting that AI is going to enslave humans since we are cancer to society. I think deep down Elon thinks like the elite do. He's definitely a sketchy character.. mark zuckerberg like..

Narcissism

Elon Musk is a classic Pathological Narcissist like the Elite - why else would they have given him the job unless its to one of their own?

Truthseeker3000

Yeah and he doesn’t even drive a Tesla, he drives a vintage Jaguar that runs on gas and takes private jets. So much for the Green movement and “climate change”. Total hoax to enslave humanity even more. Do as I say not as I do. These people are fucked.

kazza64

cdan has indicated he's a violent dude who abuses his partners probably because he's off his head on drugs his image is definitely slipping and tesla isnt a company i would trust

redwing14

John lennon beat his partners. Ghandi molested his niece. Einstein was a racist, abused his wife, and married a relative. They all are twisted people.

Elon also said that he thought as a child he would get imprisoned in a mental institution because his brain was thinking all the time. He was 6. I think he was hiding from us that he probably thought about hurting people or whatever dark thoughts.. He is the most impulsive man. He married the same women twice. Gambled all his money on space x. Another person that I followed his work is David Choe. David is the same level of impulsiveness, and he has said that he could of been a school shooter. His art is super crazy..I think elon is a dark evil person like this and he needs to do these society changing projects because he deeply despises society. I think he probably is the type to engage in these satanic rituals in the least.

DeathToMasonsASAP

Elon gambled nothing. It is a spook front supported by the endless money of the banking cartel. Tesla has hemorrhaged losses for over a decade yet the stock is through the roof because central banks around the world buy all their stocks. This is fact, International bankers own Tesla, they own their stock.

think-

Add Nelson Mandela, who beat his wife...

turitelle

I read some stuff that Winnie Mandela was pretty vicious herself.

Zzzmmm333

Hmm that is extremely odd.. I wonder if this was planned before the whole cave saga or was it just something that was "randomly" decided? Maybe they saw or heard things they shouldn't have so they were whisked away to a "monastery" to be "treated" aka memories erased and conditioning applied..

kazza64

i felt sorry for the parents they nearly lost them and then they were held in the hospital and whisked off to a monastery

Blacksmith21

Parents? I never saw any parents in the media coverage. I saw some adults who looked like they were told to stand and look related to the boys.

Monks? Think priests. No real difference.

kazza64

wow .......

carmencita

And thanks to @DeathToMasonsASAP there is this article that claims while in the cave the boys heard a roster, dogs barking and children playing. The article says this could be a shaft leading to the surface, but it could also be a camp further in the cave, possibly where the boys were heading.

Are_we_sure

is it safe to say that this whole thing may have been a failed child trafficking attempt?

No, it's not safe to say. It's a rather ludicrous conspiracy theory that confirms previously held beliefs.

DeathToMasonsASAP

Considering the facts it is not ludicrous and your aggressive denial makes it even more credible.

Narcissism

Agree, some sanity in here at last !

Blacksmith21

Sounds like something a Pizzagate denier would say...

Are_we_sure

Yeah, it sounds like great claims require great evidence.

DeathToMasonsASAP

Like us going to the moon.

carmencita

Fiona Barnett calls Sawyer a Scum Bucket - Many are calling him out. Someone also posted how he was asking for money.

https://twitter.com/FionaBa47662575/status/1038931065077821440

Truthseeker3000

Apparently his daughter even has a go fund me for herself. She is late teens early 20s and is canvassing for donations. After all, Craig Sawyer is an ex military guy...

Piscina

Why is she asking for money when her 'dad' has $18 MILLIOn?? I think she's a paid actress.

rickman

No idea but I think she was kidnapped and raped. Maybe her attacker is on the run or something. No idea but I wouldn't be too quick to condemn her for starting the fund page.

carmencita

Oh no. Another one waiting in the wings and ready to follow in his footsteps. Somehow I don't have a good feeling about him.

Truthseeker3000

Holy shit she just deleted her Go Fund Me. Her name is Aspen Sawyer. I found out by The Honey Bees twitter people posted how Craig is not to be trusted then someone posted his daughter Aspen Sawyers go fund me page and said Aspen blocked people who asked her questions about it and why she needed the money. This is not looking good...

@Piscina @carmencita

Piscina

'Aspen' is a rubbish actress who couldn't keep up the farce.

carmencita

https://the-fringe.com/thread-sawman_sawyer_discovers_children_trafficking_camp_in_az

The fastest growing criminal enterprise on the planet. Meet Tim Ballard with Operation Underground Railroad (O.U.R.) in this exclusive look into the underground world of child trafficking.

carmencita

Craig Sawyer is Fake News or even worse. He has connections with Tim Ballard of OUR the Underground Railroad Group that we have researched and found to be compromised.

https://the-fringe.com/thread-sawman_sawyer_discovers_children_trafficking_camp_in_az

carmencita

The truth will out. Demons always recall when they are confronted with the truth of Jesus Christ. When His Children are in jeopardy He responds. Just like the Cross works on the vampire and the devil.

kazza64

yeah he is no longer flavour of the month thats for sure he has fallen from grace and he was there at that cave fiasco it wasnt reported on the media but he was there

carmencita

Yeah and asking for money. Was he involved with Underground Railroad at one point? Idk, I know Glenn Beck was.

Gilderoy

Wow. I just wrote something about the Wild Boars cave rescue a few seconds ago in another post about Pope Francis . An Argentinian prostitute working undercover has publicized her findings that Pope Francis' boyfriend is operating a pedophile network. Very interesting also is that she describes the Argentinian soccer teams as essentially pedophile operations:

Similarly, the soccer leagues in Argentina are essentially pedophilia + prostitution networks. The poorer boys are forced to perform sex acts in order to make the team (instead of normal try outs) and then they must continue to prostitute themselves in order to remain on the team. The handlers charge clients 200 pence for oral “sex”, and 1000 for anal (ew!). Many of these boys end up getting HIV. Boys as young as 12 years old are being forced into this.

The video (in Spanish) where Natacha Jaitt reveals her information:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJMxGoSD2Uw

rickman

Another soccer connection is James Alefantis is FB friends with an English soccer player who was involved with a drug gang. He ended up moving to India to play soccer for two separate periods of time in a city that is known for its problems with drugs and child trafficking.

carmencita

For sure they are doing this. This has been going on in sports for years. Not a Big Secret to those that hang around with jocks and the locker rooms.

Gilderoy

It's another big piece of the puzzle. Pizzagate is systemically established in our communities. Many organizations and institutions involved. Who knew? I sure didn't up until the Wikileaks emails.

IIJOSEPHXII

Same here. Things haven't been the same since - and looking back before the wikileaks it was right in our faces and we couldn't see it.

carmencita

I don't know if Julian is still alive or now a clone, or what, but I thank him from the bottom of my heart for releasing those emails. Wherever he is now, Thank You Julian. Yes they have infiltrated everything. You almost don't know where to start. We have to stop following the YT Idols and out them all and stop falling for pols just because they are in our party (ha what party). Trust no one at this point. I am sorry to have to say that, but I have been burned too many times.

benjitsu

Is it coincidence that the gay locker room shit always seemed to revolve around guys who played hockey? (I didn't share many locker rooms with soccer players).

carmencita

I think it is across all boards. It goes on in all of the sports. This is what I have heard from someone I know, heavily involved in sports. He is gay and a wonderful person. He believes in keeping his hands to himself. An anomaly in both worlds.