Hi all! This is a work in progress but my main points are below. With the Pope calling a meeting of bishops around Church Sex Abuse, I feel now is time to strike while the whole world is watching them. My website is:
www.GodSaysStop.org
Twitter:
@GodSaysStop
.org
Facebook:
@GodSaysStop
Any constructive criticism is welcome. If we could STICKY this that would help because I need activists from every state to help with local media outreach and planning protests at churches and archdiocese.
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Remove all Underage Children from Serving Priests in the Catholic Church. The same function can be performed by an adult over 18 years old. (Sidenote: The Bible does not call for children to participate in any religious ceremonies)
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We call on President Trump and Attorney General Jeff Sessions to Investigate the Catholic Church for violations of the RICO Act due to the Concealment by the Catholic Church of criminal sexual predators from law enforcement agencies in the US and abroad.
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Random Annual Screening at K-12 Schools and doctor offices of all children for sexual abuse at home or under colour of authority. No one WANTS to ask but we owe it to the children.
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We call upon the American People and Congress to change the Crime of sexual abuse of a child into a Federal Crime with mandatory minimums and/or the Death Penalty along substantial financial fines imposed.
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The Federal Government should recognize the incredible damage done to MANY Thousands of people through childhood sexual abuse and should commit whatever resources necessary to provide treatment for the Survivors.
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We call on the Federal Government to Enact laws forbidding Minors under professional supervision to EVER be left alone, using video surveillance as a stop-gap measure, for example, in a counsellors or therapists office. This would include professionals in the legal, medical, educational and entertainment industries etc...
▼ sodePllAlliK
I bet the pope will see this stupid post and get right on that.
▼ dundundunnnnn
Can we get the law we already have enforced?
▼ Theytookadonilawslot
Roman Catholic is Pan.
▼ fogdryer
Alter boys aren’t the problem it’s the priests.
It’s the kids not being prepared “to run”.
▼ new4now
Altar Boys are there to be play toys or groomed
Catholics are just as brainwashed as other organize religions
run? run where?
how long did it take for people to listen to these abused children?
who is there to protect the children?
you been here long enough to know they are taught to trust
▼ dtneslo
I am saying the priests and Church have created a verifiable unsafe condition for children. We must warn the families involved often and loudly until either the families get it or the Church loses so much money, they are forced to or are jailed...
▼ fogdryer
“They in denial “
▼ Pizzalawyer
Amen
▼ fogdryer
It will never happen Mom likes her son being an alter boy and besides nothing will ever happen. “ It’s the church remember , such good people “
▼ Factfinder2
Do away with statutes of limitation on crimes against children.
▼ dtneslo
Agreed, will update website...
▼ carmencita
My husband and I were just discussing this last night. It's like a business. If there is no supply, there is no business. No monkey business. I am in total favor of ending this practice. I have been reading about so many sexual abuse cases my head is swimming. One thing I noticed is that many men that were altar boys said they were abused in the sacristy. We need to keep children out of the sacristy. Why not have senior citizens volunteer to take their place? You have to know they will cry about carrying the candles and the crosses etc. So why not get these elderly citizens out of their homes and save the boys from abuse. It's a better idea that the one The Onion had on their site. Replace the altar boys with gay men. NOpe.
What Great Ideas! I am in favor of all you have suggested.
▼ new4now
there are some that say the Catholic Church has a homosexual problem not a Pedo problem
I think their problem is putting themselves above mans law and corrupting Gods law
So many young boys , and there have been girls too :(
▼ carmencita
All of the above. It all applies. Lavender Mafia. Pedos. You name it.
▼ new4now
The Pedo Swamp is so huge
If the Church wont clean it, what are the people to do?
at least someone is trying to save the Church, I think the Pope only uses the churches for not so good reasons
Do you destroy the very thing that has helped you survive?
Clean it up or Bring it down
▼ carmencita
Bring it down far enough to help us with it's Resurrection. Henny Penny and I are advocating Masses in Tents and Parks. Better that a Sin Pit.
▼ new4now
I saw that, they could have small fellowships at neighborhood houses
the cities have a lot of abandoned buildings, maybe a deal could be made
wonder what would happen if the people went and didn't tithe money?
isn't that the money they use to pay victims?
do the people even ask what good works they do with the money?
something tells me an audit would show big problems
look at it this way
All of your faith is being tested, rise up, defeat the enemy
people need to sit down with the priests, find out what they doing not only in their churches but others too
and don't forget ask them about the Popes new Catholic Church
you don't stop the bull, the china shop is gonna get trashed beyond fixing
▼ carmencita
This is what I keep saying stop feeding the diseased church. But the money keeps going in. I have a feeling there has been a huge drop off of donations and they have been augmented by CP farms all over just like the one we saw posted the other day. Child Porn ring within in the RCC. There are priests that have been doing this in St. Louis Mo. as well. They are getting money somewhere and I can't believe so many people are still giving. They are angry. 37K women and over 10K men and still counting have signed a letter to the pope. I can't believe these people are still dropping money in the basket.
▼ new4now
people claim they don't want to take away from the poor they help
they may have a point, I don't know
never could figure out how children could be starving with all the money the churches have
I know how I felt, knowing people I watched on TV and enjoyed, their music I listened to are all apart of what we are fighting
cant imagine a religious kick in the gut
I didn't worship these people, I never set them on a pedestal, they were just people making a living with really big paychecks lol
but I enjoyed the entertainment
you will have trouble with opening eyes in the Italian and Mexican communities
they are seeped in the Church
as for the States with corrupt church, its like pick a card and card
its coast to coast including our outlanders
time to confront
I sure would be in someones face if this was happening in my church
but alas, I don't do the organized religion stuff :)
▼ carmencita
I'm not into the religion stuff either Have not been two Church for about 20 years or more. But I want it back. I want it Swept Out. They need to be pinned up against the wall in front of a firing squad.
▼ Vindicator
@dtneslo , v/pizzagate is for research posts. Please see this thread I created some time ago about how to write a public activism post such that it meets our submission requirements. I'll give you the 24 Hour Grace flair so you can edit.
▼ dtneslo
I read your post, there is no wording or otherwise about activism posts
▼ think-
@dtneslo , since the extra 24 hours we allowed for editing are up, I will remove the post now per @Vindicator 's comment. Removing per Rules 2 and 4.
▼ think-
Hi @dtneslo , I think it's a good post. But we'd need some sources (links to old Voat posts, or articles).
Like @Vindicator said here:
We will allow some more time for your edit. Thanks.
▼ Vindicator
"Publicity planning" = public activism. Apply the principles outlined in the thread.
▼ aimeejamey
6: Just no
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▼ dtneslo
Verbal questions to see if kids are being abused is a no go? Enjoy your Netflix then...THAT is both Constitutional and common sense...I am not talking about Medical exams...
▼ EffYouJohnPodesta
in law school I wrote a brief on screenings and they're a 4th amendment search, you need a warrant
▼ aimeejamey
P.s. If jews can perform oral suction circumcision and parents can legally commit male genital mutilation this proposal stands zero chance.
▼ aimeejamey
The first amendment prohibits Congress from interfering the way you're suggesting. Children are allowed to exercise their religion. Congress doesn't get to interpret whether the bible not requiring it would be a reason to interfere with religious expression.
▼ dtneslo
Im not aking the government, Im asking the Church while we push for Federal RICO violations investigation which may already be initiated...
▼ aimeejamey
Ok, well it wasn't clear. What RICO violations? The other parts of your plan, seem to involve significant governmental intrusions into our rights worse than anything I've ever heard proposed, especially the random yearly sexual abuse screenings.
▼ dtneslo
Asking kids if they've been abused is a gross violation of your rights? Most abuse happens in the home most kids are simply NEVER ASKED if they are currently being abused. When the Church as a global institution shields criminal sexual predators from prosecution and moves them across state lines to allow them to further commit more crimes is a violation of the RICO and Mann Acts.
▼ EffYouJohnPodesta
yes it is, it's cps level intrusion.
what RICO violations? not doubting, just wondering.
PS if you ask me if I've been abused and I say yes, what do you did with the info?
▼ hangry
You probably mean "Altar Boys." I don't think that they've altered any of them.
▼ new4now
I think their experience of being molested and groomed has altered them
to abuse a child is to murder their souls, change it
▼ dtneslo
I am calling for the Church to do it, not the government...If they wont they'll just look even more guilty and creepy..which is fine as long as the DOJ starts their investigation, which my hunch is, they have.
▼ Omnicopy
The church will never do it
▼ dtneslo
We should probably just stare more at our computers to fix the problem...
▼ dtneslo
Doesn't matter...they have no good reason to persist and Im planning protests outside of Sunday mass around the country demanding it...the harder they resist the more they look like criminal sexual predators of children for all the world to see...public perception is everything...they survive on DONATIONS...
▼ HarrisonArturus
Unconstitutional. I mean, not even close to being Constitutional.
▼ aimeejamey
Someone with sense
▼ dtneslo
For the third time, I am not asking the government to intervene and prevent children from performing in the Church, I am asking the Church while Strongly Warning ALL families to avoid leaving their children alone with a flagrantly criminal organization like the Church
▼ dtneslo
But your support speaks volume...
▼ HarrisonArturus
And your point is what? That the Constitution doesn't matter? That we can ignore the Bill of Rights?
▼ aimeejamey
It's not the lack of support. It's constructive objections.