Basterd

I have too little CC to make this its own post, but...

Back in 2011 a "Rofschild" AMA happened, where he alluded to Haiti/US Pol connections... perhaps we should take the whole of this thread more seriously??

Source is here ( https://ia802300.us.archive.org/8/items/rofschildv1/IAmARofschildAxeMeAQuestion.html )

Quote below:

Countries are a political definition! Influenced by geographical conditions, but primarily political.

There is no universal answer to your question. If you are a cockroach, you will starve in a gold mine!

Meaning that you will thrive in that area which offers you the things you need at the lowest cost of extraction! A Siberian Husky is miserable in the tropics but loves the hard conditions of the Yukon!

Few would recommend life in Haiti but I assure you there are some there living quite comfortably. Those politically connected no doubt. They will also own even more through the reconstruction process. The dumb brutes on the other end of the spectrum are not so well placed.

Do you see my meaning? Situate where you have the most resources, connections or whatever is important to you.

This is wayyyy before this was "Mainstream" knowledge/accessible...

Vindicator

Hi Blacksmith. Have you read through this in full? While it comes off as a handy redpill article, I think that may be a disguise. It starts out alright, but the further you go in this very long piece, the more stuff that is likely disinfo, stuff that will quickly close the minds of those new to the topic, becomes the focus.

I was unfamiliar with this site, so I dug a bit further and also found them pushing the "Trump is a pedo" narrative we used to see pushed a lot on here (never with any supporting evidence). Scroll down toward the bottom of this article: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=56523 .

Here they are in December 2016, claiming the government found child meat in McDonald's hamburgers . The story was pushed here by this user .

I haven't given this the Disinfo flair yet, but that's the direction I am leaning.

fogdryer

what the thought behind them doing that ?

Vindicator

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DeathToMasonsASAP

Stop defending Trump. He is one of them and has plenty of allegations against him, including that he was a pimp for his model agency and had people working for him arrested for trafficking. I posted a lengthily series of connections between Trump, Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Jesuits, CIA and Mossad, Roy Cohn and CIA pedo entrapment, Buddy of Epstein Clinton's etc...You angrily deleted it and sent me an aggressive PM. You are a pedo mod and Sell Trump and Q and that our system has good guys fighting for us and we are winning. You are scum disifno gatekeeper.

think-

I'm a bit on the edge about this. I tend to accept

Trump himself may be involved in the same kind of pedophile rings as the Clintons and Epstein (although probably minus the Satanism).

(unlike 'Trump is involved'), but can see where you guys are coming from. Hmm.

I'd say let the votes decide.

Thoughts?

Lansing-Michigan

Have read that Trump never took drugs or drank alcohol...Saw him on MSM saying he had never drunk alcohol in a speech. Does not fit the description at this time of a pedo.Think they have to keep themselves under some kind of influence because of the things they do....... Although, there is still some wiggle room there too. Mainly Pictures.

think-

I just don't believe in the 'Trump is the White Knight' Story.

DeathToMasonsASAP

There was tons of evidence, you guys scrubbed it.

WhenEveMetEnki

Was going to point this out myself; I can't dismiss a source based on their belief that Trump is a pedophile, regardless of whether or not that's my personal take. There is sufficient reason (links below) to at least suspect as much without necessarily having any bias or alternative motive. That said I haven't finished this read myself and withhold judgment, but appreciate your saying this.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5749/both-trump-and-clinton-went-jeffrey-epsteins-sex-amanda-prestigiacomo https://nypost.com/2016/10/09/the-sex-slave-scandal-that-exposed-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein/ https://www.politico.com/story/2017/05/04/jeffrey-epstein-trump-lawsuit-sex-trafficking-237983 .

think-

I'm totally flattered that you follow me around on your first day on Voat, member for 2 hours.

WhenEveMetEnki

George Soros told me to.

Seriously?
A) I'm not following you around. In the other thread, you replied to ME, and in this one I was going to say something but you'd already said it. I thanked you for doing so, in particular because I'm NOT trying to pick a credibility fight with the mods and I appreciated you having pointed out what I thought was a valid point.

B). You can check my first or second comment if you want the VERBOSE explanation for my new account (& prediction of this new=shill cliche dismissal), but the BRIEF version is: I want to participate, because I think too few of us [and WAY too many of ((them)) do].

This kinda shit dissuades the thousands of us who care and have followed this shit from participating. Follow that logic through, and you'll realize it ends in ONLY shills, in ever-growing numbers and those few who joined on day one. If that's the conversation you want, then ignore me. But I for one got tired of seeing it. Be suspicious of my motives, think critically, etc., sure, but I implore you to consider not dismissing every new account offhandedly.

think-

I concede that your comment has some merit. Going to delete my comment above.

WhenEveMetEnki

I appreciate that (no /s).

"The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right; the spirit of liberty is the spirit which seeks to understand the minds of other men and women."

Vindicator

I tend to accept

Trump himself may be involved in the same kind of pedophile rings as the Clintons and Epstein (although probably minus the Satanism).

(unlike 'Trump is involved') as a general statement, but I agree that we never saw evidence .

Really? Not me. Anything coming from FusionGPS is deepstate disinfo, and they are the source of that whole line of bullshit. Fusion GPS tried to tie Title Here Trump to Clinton's pedophile pal Epstein as part of smear campaign.

Plus, it was really obvious when that narrative started being pushed in here by shitty accounts with no evidence or with evidence presented out of context in a way that made it have the opposite meaning. Whenever I see that disingenuous tactic deployed, I know it's bullshit.

think-

Well, after re-reading, I would like to correct myself: I don't believe he is involved in the Clinton BS. I still believe that nobody can become POTUS without being deep into shit - whether it's pedo stuff remains to be seen (this is why I said I think 'may' is acceptable).

Vindicator

I think we'd better go with the "Possible Disinfo" flair so people know to read through the whole article to the end before they decide to send it to their families and friends to explain Pizzagate. Flairing it now.

think-

Ok.

Blacksmith21

Mea culpa: I made it about 2/3 of the way through before my SO dragged me out of the hotel room to return to normal world.

I'll look further - feel free to flair with "possible disinfo" flair.

We need to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Vindicator

Read the rest. I'm interested in your assessment. :-)

Hope you enjoyed the hotel :-)

Blacksmith21

I'll finish it off in the morning when I'm "less" on vacation.

Can I tell you how much of a PITA relocating states is?

Vindicator

I've never done it. Congrats on escaping the swamp, though.

shewhomustbeobeyed

stateofthenation - https://archive.is/oEXci

OneIssue

Excellent article. Thank you.