4freedomsring

Father Martin is a fraud, Check out the Crucifix on the rosary. Depicts Jesus with his arms folded, not outstretched.
This is a satanic mockery of our Christ .

Christ was crucified with his hands outstretched, as an sacrifice for out sins. This fake cross denies the willing atonement that Jesus made for our sins.

carmencita

I just saw it! OOH, I wish I could upvoat you 100 times. I am going to check it out He is blasphemous and what he is doing is a Sacrilege. What do you suppose that means? Jesus with his arms crossed. To cross the arms means you are closed to discussion, is what I found on the internet. In other words, Christ is not inclusive? This priest is a heretic. Does anyone know what this signifies? @HennyPenny @Gilderoy @Vindicator @NOMOCHOMO @Factfinder2

NOMOCHOMO

Personally, I dont like any depictions of Christ, as I consider them idolatry. But I'm not a Catholic, so that's part of it ;)

Exodus 20:4-5

Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

To me any visual representation of Christ is deification of a man's interpretation. And it causes divides in believers as we dont actually know what Jesus looked like. (The whole black Jesus vs white Jesus debate over "skin of bronze"). From what I can tell, the Catholic Crucifix clearly shows a European Dude.

Buuuut, looking at it from a Catholic perspective, I can understand what you are seeing. Symbols mean things. And changing the crucifix is a definite symbolic attempt at subverting the " traditional " Catholic Church

carmencita

Thank You for responding. Since you are not Catholic I think you also see the devastation the death of the Catholic Church would mean. Death of All Christianity is their goal. There was at one point a Black Christ statue in Mexico somewhere and it was confiscated. Sick. I don't care what color they made him but if THEY change it now I will be as suspicious as HE77. Note that it says the goat symbol is the devil. Good Grief. All of this scares me mainly because of as you say, the Traditional Catholic Church. It is the closest thing we had to the beginning. Not saying all of the bowing and adoring is good but it depends on what is in the heart of the person. For me it means a closeness to Jesus. Never really idolized him. Love is what comes to mind. This is all very frightening to me.

NOMOCHOMO

it depends on what is in the heart of the person.

<3 :) the truth is written on all of our hearts

carmencita

Yep. It's not really a good idea to be too much of a holy roller because it usually drives others away. We know of the one in the family that has religious stuff on every wall and talks about it all the time, well usually the Children turn out the opposite. Better to live a life of love for yourself and others with minimal adoration <3

NOMOCHOMO

Yep, don't be a pharisee (holy for others to see)

carmencita

I think you hit on something. Many are surely doing it to please others of the same ilk. The worst kind of faith.

carmencita

The first link made me cry. Tears of Sadness. The second one was frightening. So many that are not Catholic pay no attention to this. They don't seem to understand this will not only be the death of Catholicism but All Christianity. We must all band together and fight for our right to Worship God. Those that have Crosses and Bibles and Prayer Books hide the now and tell no one what you have. Treasure Them. I shall never abandon you

Vindicator

Pizzagate Related because here we have a Roman Catholic priest spreading normalization of the gay life which is against the Church's Teachings, and he is clearly in favor of desecrating Our Blessed Virgin's Rosary, and the SACRILIGIOUS Art Work.

Sorry Carmencita, I am not seeing how a fag abusing the Rosary is related to the sexual abuse of kids. This is only indirectly related and really doesn't help our investigation at all. I'll give this the 24 Hour Grace flair, though, in case there is some connection I am missing.

4freedomsring

We could consider that Father Martin is allowed to continue his heresies, and promote the gay ( and pedophilic ) agenda by his bishop Cardinal Dolan. Dolan supports Vogue magazine editor and he attended the Metopolitan art mockery of the Catholic Church. We know Vogue uses models who appear to be starved to death, beaten ( I forget the name of the photographer whose instagram was filled with these children. It was on VOAT months ago. Catholic Church has been infiltrated by pedos, Masons. Priests like Dolan, and Martin are very aware of the filth and ignore it.

Vindicator

I forget the name of the photographer whose instagram was filled with these children.

Rachel Chandler I believe was the instagram.

4freedomsring

Thanks.

think-

Rachel Chandler owns a model agency together with a pal. You can find posts about her when using the searchbox in the sidebar. There was an actual photographer connected to her, who did pictures of children bordering on child porn.

@srayzie did a post about it, maybe she can help with the name.

srayzie

I can’t remember the name either

XGemInaV

At the very least it helps to map out the gay-pedo-satanist network. Fr. Martin is definitely a bad actor trying to normalize homosexuality in the Catholic Church. I think 80% of the abuse cases in the Church were male-on-male (i.e. homosexual) in nature.

Vindicator

True, but that's still a very indirect connection. We've never accepted submissions on that basis, because the community decided early on it was just a vector for shills to exploit to discredit and dismiss us. Hence the direct relevance requirement. If there is any evidence that dude is supporting rehabilitation for pedo priests (and thus might be using funds raised from rosaries to help them, for example), I would be willing to leave this up. But if it's just he's gay and most pedo priests are gay...that's not enough. This will have to go in v/pizzagatewhatever as speculative.

@carmencita

NOMOCHOMO

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2018/08/super-creepy-poster-for-gay-conference-reveals-agenda/

How about this 2018 Catholic Conference on LGBT issues (featuring James Martin) which features a photo of a childs hand and adult hand finger walking towards each other along a rainbow? It obviously implies pedophilia in context of LGBT "rights"

Father James Martin was appointed in 2017 by Pope Francis as a consultant to the Vatican's Secretariat for Communications (Vatican PR)

He is also editor at large of America (the Jesuit magazine). The Jesuits just yesterday named 111 pedophile priests they knowingly protected.

After he was appointed by Francis to be Vatican PR, he publishes this article explaining away the pedophilia crisis in the church, while assuring the readers, that the church is now more "rigorous"

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2017/12/20/father-james-martin-tracing-causes-sexual-abuse-catholic-church

He's been explaining away Catholic Priest abuse since 2010

https://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/civil-religion/jesuit-priest-james-martin-sheds-light-on-the-sexual-abuse/article_920b3577-3760-5cc5-8736-36fbba48fb04.amp.html

@carmencita he's not only normalizing homosexuality, he is loyal to the church despite the sexual abuse revelations

And he is using coded imagery of kids and adults in relation to LGBT issues.

Is that a clear enough connection @vindicator ?

Vindicator

http://wdtprs.com/blog/2018/08/super-creepy-poster-for-gay-conference-reveals-agenda/

How about this 2018 Catholic Conference on LGBT issues (featuring James Martin) which features a photo of a childs hand and adult hand finger walking towards each other along a rainbow? It obviously implies pedophilia in context of LGBT "rights"

Yep. That will do nicely. Thank you. @Carmencita , please edit that into the main body of your post as evidence this is pizzagate relevant, and I will remove the flair.

carmencita

Done and Thank You very much for helping out with this. Fr. James Martin is walking on the edge and trying to hide his pedo vibes under the radar.

Vindicator

Flair removed. :-)

carmencita

Thanks so much. He is horrid and it is important to out these guys because they try to pass themselves as quite the opposite of what they really are. I am waiting for him to trip himself up again.

carmencita

OK Thanks Much. Kind of sick this morning. Burned the candle at both ends yesterday. But thanks.

shewhomustbeobeyed

A little hung R we? :-D

carmencita

Ha Ha. Actually all I had was apple cider. Doesn't take much these days. LOL. No, the place was so crowded and packed it was quite a task getting out an home. Never again.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Ugh, crowds are definitely the worst.

carmencita

Never again. I felt like I drank a vat of beer and I only had an apple cider. I was so worked over by the crowd. Body to body. We had to hang on to each other to stay together. All mostly young people drinking kegs of beer. Yeah everyone thought i drank, they couldn't believe a crowd could do that much damage. LOL.

shewhomustbeobeyed

I hope you feel better quickly.

Imnotshocked

I found this interesting , a teacher was recently fired in VA for not calling a transgender student by his preferred pronoun . I can’t make a post myself because I don’t have enough ccp. https://people.com/human-interest/virginia-teacher-fired-refusing-to-use-transgender-students-preferred-pronouns/

carmencita

We shouldn't be expecting anymore from Virginia than this. I hope to God he files an appeal. This is Outrageous.

Piscina

What's next? A decade for pedophiles?

carmencita

We are in a very scary time of crisis and this priest is full fledged flaming gay priest imo. He should be followed and tailed.

Obelisk79

The Bible clearly states that being gay is wrong. Many times over, but gays don't want to be told they are bad or wrong in the eyes of God, so we have to normalize/gayify everything.

I have friends who are gay, they are generally great people, but they are not godly.

Imnotshocked

Exactly! They really don’t want to know the truth , because the Bible clearly states that men who lie with men will not inherit Gods kingdom . It’s truly sad ..

Phantom42

"I have friends who are gay"

Annnnnd you lost me.

Faggots have no place in higher societies.

goytoynamedtroy

Faggots have no place in higher societies.

Agreed.

carmencita

Yes, I have a far removed family member. They are exemplary except for being gay. If I remember correctly he was an altar boy and mother was very religious. Possibly abused. But yes he is one of the kindest people I know. Not married and all that stuff and dresses like a heterosexual male. You would never guess.

Podge512

Do you ever feel that the world around you is going insane, and nobody else seems to notice or care?

carmencita

YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! YES!! and a Thousand Times YES!! I feel like screaming sometimes at them. Wake Up and notice that everything we held Sacred is being Desecrated by satan.

StarAnon

I feel the same. I too feel like screaming. The perversions just seem to stack higher, and higher.

carmencita

More sickening stuff. This must stop.

https://www.churchmilitant.com/news/article/bishop-caggiano-appoints-woman-to-lead-parish

Woman appointed to lead parish So a lay person takes pastor's place. What next?

fogdryer

agenda 21 !

carmencita

Yeah, this really made me sick. This priest surely will be having a good time for himself at the retreat at the Pink Palace.