Seth Rich Case News - Proof DOJ is Conducting a Behind the Scenes Criminal Investigation, and a Grand Jury has already been Convened ( pizzagate )

submitted by The1stLantern

Sending a screenshot of my PACER account (See embedded image and/or attachment) - FOIA request submitted for information pertaining to the murder of SR.

https://imgur.com/a/SXhWg1P

Notice the status rebuttals from agencies below in photo - specifically the Executive Office of United States Attorneys invocation of FOIA exceptions. Last line sticks out - There is an open criminal investigation (by the DOJ, this means its been taken out of the hands of MPD originally assigned to investigate) and ongoing Grand Jury proceedings.

Also of note - the exceptions invoked to withhold info from FOIA request that are of note are as follows.

Exemption 7 Exemption 7 of the FOIA, as amended, protects from disclosure "records or information compiled for law enforcement purposes, but only to the extent that the production of such law enforcement records or information

(A) could reasonably be expected to interfere with enforcement proceedings (This is basically a legal admission that there is an enforcement proceeding taking place by the DOJ behind the scenes).

(D) could reasonably be expected to disclose the identity of a confidential source, including a State, local, or foreign agency or authority or any private institution which furnished information on a confidential basis (Someone is singing or has additional information they are providing to push this investigation forward).

DeathToMasonsASAP

Yeah the Arwan Bros trial really accomplished much. Imran giving the triangle hand sign walking to the court. So now we have to deal with the gullible sheeple in here for the next year talking about Hillary going to prison. Bah bah!

Paladin_Diver

I can't see the part of the image that discusses the status rebuttals. Was (B) and (C) not present on the doc, or were they left out of your post because they were not relevant?

It's a great share either way. Thanks.

Ponycam

When JA is spotted here, yhis may be a sign he's been called for questioning.

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Mrs_Ogynist01

Could this just mean "an open investigation" because his murder has not been solved? But then, why would there be a grand jury???

The1stLantern

If it were only open for murder, it would be in the hands of DCMPD. This proves DOJ has stepped in and supplanted MPD in charge of the investigation.

Good news considering how many times the cheif of MPD has been seen with characters like James Alefantis and how all the officers body cam footage disappeared..

Are_we__sure

If it were only open for murder, it would be in the hands of DCMPD. This proves DOJ has stepped in and supplanted MPD in charge of the investigation.

How exactly does this prove your claim? It seems to me you are making an assumption here. The assumption being the grand jury that is open is a federal grand jury. Because they did not say it was a federal grand jury. I'm wondering if that's significant.

I have no expertise in FOIA docs or in local vs federal jurisdiction, but couldn't it be that MPD is still the lead agency in the case, but in some cases they reached to the FBI for assistance? In this hypothetical, there still would be correspondence related to Seth Rich with DOJ. My understanding is local police forces do reach out the FBI often and this is a reasonable hypothetical.

votesarestolen

The records are in the United States Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, indicating that it is a federal grand jury.

Are_we__sure

The FOIA request asked for any correspondence the the USAO might have. It did not ask if there was a federal grand jury. A reason they were a denied was "A grand jury" is open, but did not mention if this is a federal or local grand jury.

Unless anyone here is very good at Federal FOIA requests or the regular language used by the USAO, this remains an assumption.

The1stLantern

It seems to me you arent a lawyer, so let me explain.

First - the exception being invoked is part of the arguement being claimed as reason for denying a FOIA. I cant invoked an exception stating on grounds it would interfere with a court case proceeding if say, there was not actually a court case on going. Likewise I can't claim exemptions stating that release of information would damage the ongoing proceedings are criminal investigation and a grand jury proceeding if those things were not already taking place.

The exemption invoked thereby proves the fact that there is a court proceeding going on, without actually needing to stay in explicit terms that there is a court proceeding going on. Does that make sense?

Think of it like the legal equivalent of me saying I can't hand it in because my dog ate it - the implication in that sentence is that I own a dog in order for the eating to have taken place. (sorry it's sometimes hard to translate lawyer speak for regular people).

If it has gone to Grand Jury status beneath the auspices of the DOJ, than MPD is no longer the lead Agency on the case. Some agencies do AT times call in the FBI for assistance in case, and/or have their cases taken over by the FBI, but the fact that this has become a federally-recognized case beneath it Department implicates for us that what we are looking at is a case that has been given over in its entirety.

Are_we__sure

There's nothing in the reply that indicates a FEDERAL grand jury is open.

There's nothing in the reply that indicates MPD is no longer the lead Agency on the case

fogdryer

I was so afraid he was "forgotten", along with Scalia

ShaneE11183386

Scalia was a high degree satanist who raped little boys. Supposedly the 14 y.o he just raped was the one who slit his throat ( not disclosed) pillow over head was disinfo

DeathToMasonsASAP

They didn't "forget", they commit crimes because they are protected. So what do you expect to come from this "trial"? They unprotected all the sudden?

Otto-

That's great! I don't know how helpful this is, but I was gonna mention how special access is sometimes given when issuing a FOIA under an "author's exemption", specifically a published author. But seeing as this is an ongoing criminal case, I don't think we can request anymore info than we have. I wish we had some attorney we could ask for advice or use to request additional information.

Hope this is good news, I have far more faith in the justice system being able to handle it at this point.

Vindicator

Fantastic, 1stLantern! Thanks for posting this. I'm giving it the Share! flair. :-)

The1stLantern

Light up the dark my friend

Vindicator

Every day!

carmencita

Upvoat! and .Thanks for Posting Can't believe this has been taken out of Newsham's hands.

The1stLantern

share it fucking everywhere

carmencita

I already did. I was on my laptop all day that Sunday. The Dem. Convention was a fiasco. He new what was coming. No wonder he leaked those emails.

Paladin_Diver

Justice for Seth would be a wonderful addition to this story.

carmencita

Seth knew John Ashe and Molly Macauley

https://spacepolicyonline.com/news/molly-macauley-renowned-space-economist-killed-while-walking-her-dogs/

According to the July 9 Baltimore Sun, she was stabbed to death while walking her two dogs in the Roland Park neighborhood in Baltimore. No suspects have been identified. [The Baltimore Sun published an updated article on July 11 with a few more details, but there is still no suspect or motive. Funeral arrangements have not been announced yet.] [Update July 12: Funeral arrangements are not yet confirmed, but Resources for the Future, where Molly worked for more than 30 years, will hold a memorial service in September. Details TBA.]

Macauley was a valued member of the space policy community for decades and renowned for her expertise on the economics of satellites, especially in the earth observation arena. Her professional portfolio was much broader, however, including the use of economic incentives in environmental regulation, climate and earth science, and recycling and solid waste management. She testified before Congress many times and was the author of more than 80 journal articles, books, and book chapters.

She was Vice President for Research and a Senior Fellow at Resources for the Future, a Washington-based think tank that focuses on the economics of natural resources. She was a past member of the Space Studies Board (SSB) and of the Aeronautics and Space Engineering Board (ASEB) of the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine and served on many of its study committees. She was a member of the steering committee for the ongoing Decadal Survey for Earth Science and Applications from Space at the time of her death.

I bring up Molley whenever possible. She was killed right after Seth Rich and Seth was murdered right after John Ashe. I may not have the order correct but right near each other. Not many know about her. A Real Loss @TippyHome

TippyHome

Carmencita, when I read, also, that the DOJ is investigating SR, I, like you said a quick prayer that these three stranger than fiction murders can be solved. Slowly the things we have known to be true are being confirmed as true. I don't remember where I read it but Europian surgeons confirmed this week that organ trafficking is happening, so, with eyes on the space program will help with these investigations. Thanks for the mention.

carmencita

Oh I am so glad you are still checking in! I too have seen some surprising admissions. Believe me I was shocked about the Seth Rich investigation. Amazing. Let's hope it opens a whole can of worms and yes, it leads to what really happened to those three and hopefully Montano as well. I believe he may be connected too. Although thy were really on a murderous roll.

Paladin_Diver

This, my friend, looks and feels like a very interesting angle. Thank you. I'll go down that rabbit hole with you.

carmencita

I pinged someone else. But he is not always on here too often. Will see. It had something to do with Obama's space program I believe. She found out something they were up to. John Ashe died a short time he was to testify about a case involving some Chinese man involved with the Clintons, that I believe went all the way back to Arkansas. Also there was another death that might be connected and that was Joe Montao aide to Tim Kaine (vp candidate for HRC) and you just have to know that Joe and Seth had to know each other both working on voter outreach. This whole thing REEKS.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/joe-montano-filipino-american-activist-and-aide-to-sen-kaine-dies-at-47/2016/08/01/65cbf248-57ea-11e6-9aee-8075993d73a2_story.html?noredirect=on

Joe Montano, Filipino American activist and aide to Sen. Kaine, dies at 47

Paladin_Diver

Good stuff. You've got my attention. Your theories pass the smell test and are plausible in my book.

Side note: our understanding of how "they" work and think sometimes scares me. They have a sick mindset, and I wonder if we do damage to our own selves by learning their ways. If so, I'm ok with it as long as the goal is reached, but I hope we keep our own humanity. Does this make sense?

carmencita

Yes it makes sense. I believe there were weaklings that possibly were researching them or in LE too and they tripped stumbled and fell. You have to be very strong to not follow. Strong morals and know that good and evil are cut and dry. Those that are clear on what is good and evil they will not fall. It's never fuzzy to me.

Paladin_Diver

I have always been one who thinks and acts in extremes like good vs evil, although until recently, I was more inclined to use definitions like right vs wrong and just vs unjust. I've come closer to defining our current fight as good vs evil, though.

I get your lack of fuzziness. I get criticized by some close to me for being so rigid, but as my username implies, when one is Lawful Good, clarity is easier.

(D&D reference and admission that I played that wonderful game).

carmencita

I too am a stickler for right and wrong. But I am ready to forgive very light shades of grey. The hard stuff? No way. If someone were to stay to me well, the teen girl came on to me so, how could I refuse, Some idiots would say Well, she wanted it. People have changed so much in the last 30 years. A whole turnaround. It's really sad. Why exactly we can't let people on here say horrid things about people of different races or about Children. It's up to us to try to bring about that change and to call them out.

Paladin_Diver

Truth for its own sake.

carmencita

check out Tippy's reply.

Paladin_Diver

Very interesting. Thanks.