carmencita

The place in the released vid has a brick wall on the left side that he passes. There are pong tables with chairs that seem to be set up for using. Does anyone remember a brick wall by tables?

septimasexta

This IS VOAT/PIZZAGATE. Only 214 views? Really?

Tired_of_Waiting

Maybe no one cares anymore

Nothing being done about it

Maybe people can only take so much before they stop caring

haggl

Yeah they want us to forget about it, they got away with 9/11 for 18 years now :(

think-

The post has 379 views now.

septimasexta

In this video from DC Channel 4 NBC uploaded on Jan 31, 2019, The suspect is seen entering Comet from outside at least twice; first 2 WITHOUT bag, third time WITH BAG.

carmencita

I agree

septimasexta

The time stamp can be seen in the upper left, but it is partially covered so it is of no use.

Make video full screen and stop at :22. There is a frame where the guy is looking at the camera up close and the room is lit. It almost looks like it is in a basement. Is this a hangout room for the bands? This is definitely not in the main restaurant. The so-called fire behind him is really odd. IT DOESN'T SPREAD. Where is the SMOKE? Did a FIRE ALARM go off? Why didn't the SPRINKLER SYSTEM go off? From the video, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A FIRE!

carmencita

Again I propose that this fire/flames were of something other than what would be a normal fire. It could be made of some combined ingredients that produce exactly what you described. Also regarding that it seems to be a basement well it well could be. Remember the basement that supposedly doesn’t exist. Not saying it’s there but it is possible.

rickman

It's the area right at the back of the restaurant behind these black curtains.

Comet

septimasexta

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong/@38.9558324,-77.0702912,3a,75y,90t/data =!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNZFq9kv04NPViK72JCyXRDmeTVHWz-zk9olu-T!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNZFq9kv04NPViK72JCyXRDmeTVHWz-zk9olu-T%3Dw203-h270-k-no!7i3024!8i4032!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89b7c6de5af6e45b:0xc2524522d4885d2a!2sWashington,+DC!3b1!8m2!3d38.9071923!4d-77.0368707!3m4!1s0x0:0x81a8bf734dd1c58f!8m2!3d38.9559498!4d-77.0699665?hl=en

This photo on the right shows a band playing in what I assume is the ping pong area (see other photo on left with people playing ping pong, back wall looks the same) You can see a black curtain on the left side of the back wall. I remember earlier Pizzagate researchers who looked behind the curtain and said there was a bar back there but it was closed. The security video is definitely not in the ping pong area and there is what appears to be a bar there. Also, the area appears to be sunken. The top LEFT of the video looks like the black curtain entrance (from the other side). The room appears to be lower down if you look at the booths to the left of the screen which are lower than the "curtain." Again, I see no curtain where the "fire" is. Is there a door leading to the outside from this back room? WHAT IS THE FIRE/SPRINKLER CODE for this room? Again, WHERE IS THE SMOKE? Very suspicious.

carmencita

If this is the room with the bar that you enter through the curtain then there IS a door leading to the outdoors. The fire could have been some chemical used or what they use in films. I believe there is something they use that doesn’t grow in size. Again I am not an expert on this but just something I have read.

septimasexta

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong/@38.9558324,-77.0702912,3a,75y,90t/data =!3m8!1e2!3m6!1sAF1QipNx91ojxD92gg6Xb1d8FUVjqr3Q8M20GN95LsS9!2e10!3e12!6shttps:%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2Fp%2FAF1QipNx91ojxD92gg6Xb1d8FUVjqr3Q8M20GN95LsS9%3Dw203-h152-k-no!7i4048!8i3036!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x89b7c6de5af6e45b:0xc2524522d4885d2a!2sWashington,+DC!3b1!8m2!3d38.9071923!4d-77.0368707!3m4!1s0x0:0x81a8bf734dd1c58f!8m2!3d38.9559498!4d-77.0699665?hl=en

Here's the comparison photo showing the curtain and back wall with people playing ping pong. It matches wall and curtain behind the band. This area does not match what we see in the security video. Was anyone playing ping pong when the video guy went back there? Did anyone see him carrying the plastic bag? In the video, the guy ISN'T WEARING GLOVES. Did they check the charcoal lighter fluid can for fingerprints? Was the DIAPER AND BABY BOTTLE left here? Were they checked for fingerprints? Who broke the first news story on this event? How did they find out about the fire? The first one I saw was not MSM, and had what appears to be a fake photo of the fire, after seeing the security video. If it wasn't fake, WHO TOOK THAT PHOTO? It was cropped so that all that you saw was flames up close. It gave the false impression that the fire was huge and out of control. This does not match the fire dept. description saying it was small enough for employees to put out with a fire extinguisher and it was already out when they arrived. I guess Comet's fire insurance claim will tell the extent of the physical as well as SMOKE damage. OR WILL THEY FILE ONE?

septimasexta

Is that black curtain behind the ping pong tables FIRE RETARDANT? https://www.amazon .com/BEGOODTEX-Inherent-Retardant-Darkening-Blackout/dp/B071FKMHVJ/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1549153961&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=flame+resistant+curtains&psc=1

IS IT SUPPOSED TO BE?

septimasexta

Just realized, WHERE IS THE VIDEO OF EMPLOYEES PUTTING OUT THE "fire" ????????

septimasexta

At :20 there is a large black artifact, like it is covering something (one?) at :18 It then jumps to the other room and the guy is across from the "fire". Note what appears to be a giant TV screen in the room IN FRONT of the "fire". However, there is a reflection of the "flames" in it. HOW COULD THIS BE? I don't even see a curtain where the "flames" are. VERY STRANGE. Raises more questions than it answers. We need to see the original fire dept. report. According to the article, the firemen never saw the fire burning. Do Comet bands ever use pyrotechnics?

rickman

Very relaxed guy. Smiling despite being by himself. Snooping around in the back where customers probably aren't meant to be. Not concerned about openly carrying that small plastic bag. Stares right into the camera but then hits it as if he doesn't want him filming him? Doesn't make sense. Wearing bright colours that make him stand out in a dark venue.

To me this was a guy who was not concerned about being stopped and questioned. Or about being identified. No hat or glasses, gets up close to camera, paid for his beers using a credit card. He comes prepared but its hard to believe he actually wanted to burn the place down. His aim seems to be to create a disturbance and nothing more.

Lavender7

a goat?

septimasexta

Well, he's wearing a goat-tee.

carmencita

At one point there seems to be a bar on the right side of the screen. Also looks like maybe picnic tables in the middle. Could this be the Children’s birthday party room? The one that is beyond the curtains? Does anyone else see this?

Yuke

Yes, it's the back room, used for events now and then. I find this bit odd because in another news report it said that the fire spread to nearby windows, but there aren't any windows at the back. Copying you in @doofface99 to answer your question about the room.

septimasexta

"Firefighters responded to a small fire at the restaurant about 9:20 p.m. that night, D.C. Fire and EMS said. One of the videos of the suspect shows him trying to knock down or destroy a camera while a fire burns in the background. Employees put out the fire that spread to some curtains and window coverings inside the restaurant, the fire department said. There was a minimal amount of damage, investigators said. No one was injured in the fire." https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Video-Shows-Suspect-in-Comet-Ping-Pong-Fire-505172251.html

WHERE ARE THE WINDOW COVERINGS AND CURTAINS LOCATED? WHERE IS THE SMOKE? In this video, the order of the guy entering from the outside is switched.

Yuke

There are curtains at the back of Comet, big Black ones like the two that separate the stage room/ping pong room from the events room where this was. An outside view of Comet shows that there is one small boarded up window (from the inside) so it must have been this. I'd always assumed that the curtains that cover the back wall were just an easy way to cover up a shitty back wall.

septimasexta

"According to a police report, an unidentified person set a curtain in the back of the restaurant on fire around 10:45 p.m. Wednesday. Comet staffers used a fire extinguisher to put out the fire, and no injuries were reported.

Arson investigators discovered burned matches and a bottle of charcoal lighter fluid next to the curtain, leading to a “unanimous” decision that the fire was caused by arson, according to police." https://www.thedailybeast.com/arson-suspected-at-comet-ping-pong-the-dc-restaurant-made-famous-by-pizzagate .

NOTICE THIS IS A "POLICE REPORT" NOT A FIRE DEPARTMENT/ARSON REPORT. Exactly where is this burned curtain?

doofface99

Oh duh, I see now.

septimasexta

Here are some interesting bands that performed in Comet's "BACK ROOM" in 2017:

"MANEKA, HELLRAZOR, AND BABY GRILL

SUNDAY, DECEMBER 10, 2017 7:00 PM 8:00 PM COMET PING PONG"

"$5-10 donation - Doors 7:00pm in the BACK ROOM of Comet Ping Pong" https://www.cometpingpong.com/shows/maneka-hellrazor-baby-grill CHECK OUT MUSIC SAMPLES AND WEB SITE

According to CPP calendar, no band was booked for night of alleged fire.

septimasexta

Did Comet always pay their bands on time?

carmencita

Correct. He must have gone out the back door. I remember there being a door there and way back I remember someone mentioning older men going in and out of it. Why would there be a bar in a room for kids parties. Weird. There are only two ways out. The back door or through the curtained doorway.

Yuke

I've seen plenty of pictures of various events taking place in there, so don't see it as a kids party room, see it more so as a room that can be used for kids parties. I don't find kids parties held there suspicious but that room itself could be used for 'meetings' and private parties for powerful people, for sure. I've also seen that door used by people wanting to get some air and/or smokers too.

carmencita

It’s just that’s. What I remember reading about that room. That they held kids parties there. Mane they had other events there as well but I don’t remember that. Could be.

septimasexta

More thinking on this. The video released by the fire dept. was for IDENTIFICATION PURPOSES. They cannot confirm that the flickering blob of light in the video was an actual fire because NO fireman WITNESSED it. It is the OPINION of the linked article writer that this was the fire. The "fire" in the video appeared to be higher than the man. Normally at that stage, it would rapidly spread and produce smoke --neither of which we see, nor was that reported by the Comet employees. It must have been a very short time from this video clip to the time the employees arrived with fire extinguishers. This could be determined by the time stamp on the video and the time that a call was made to the fire dept. RECORDED TIMES IS IMPORTANT. Did the employees come in through the back door, or through the curtain? There were reports in some of the early articles on this that said they saw this guy CALMLY LEAVING the building when they were evacuating it due to the fire. So, he left out the FRONT door? No one tried to follow him? According to the article, they seemed to be immediately suspicious of him. We need to see the original fire report, the time stamp (where we can see it) on the video, the part of the video where the fire is extinguished, and confirmation of which door the suspect exited, which entrance to the room the EMPLOYEES used to extinguish the fire. Did these same employees see the suspect leaving the back room?

How many customers were evacuated? Was the suspect seen by other customers in the back playing ping pong before the "fire"? So many questions. Why did they bring in AFT for such a "small fire"? IS THIS STANDARD PROCEDURE?

septimasexta

Evidently, this guy committed arson in order to FRAME SOMEONE. Not all is as it appears...

"Paul Hicks, 43, allegedly devised the plan that resulted in his house going up in flames on June 15, 2015, the Clermont County Sheriff’s Office said. Police say he intended to frame his ex-girlfriend to gain custody of their child and collect insurance money." https://www.foxnews.com/us/ohio-man-tried-to-frame-ex-girlfriend-in-elaborate-arson-scheme-police-say

carmencita

Wow. You bring up some very good points. Also why would someone that just set a fire go out the front door and walk through the restaurant? Would he not want to be not seen and go out the back way? This is a real head scratcher.

septimasexta

This is the same area that Welch went into according to the only customer who was reported as seeing him walk by. They were in the ping pong area and said he went behind the curtain. Then there was testimony that an employee entered through the BACK DOOR and saw Welch standing there. IS THERE ONLY ONE BACK DOOR? Is it in this room? VERY STRANGE.

carmencita

I have always only seen and known of only one back door. But could there be a floor door leading to the basement (the one JA claims does not exist). Just trying to cover all bases.

septimasexta

Where is Comet's emergency exit located? Does it have one?

carmencita

There are only two exits that we know of. Front. Back. I would think it has to be that back door. Unless there is a side door.