rickman

This all makes me nervous. Why did nobody listen to these men before? Why was Jackson protected after his death? I'm sorry if I feel like this is an attempt to divert attention.

whentheclockstrikes

Jackson was incredibly rich and powerful. People have no idea how quickly someone rich can quash things with the right pay offs to the right people.

Piscina

Great post. And remember that when police raided Jackson's residence they found what they called 'grooming material' to desensitise the children and break down their boundaries. They also found images of naked adults with children's faces imposed on them. Sick.

Empire_of_the_mind

that's what the press reported. did you ever see this evidence? you did not.

Imnotshocked

This woman makes me sick! If she saw all that stuff go on then she should have spoke up! Sounds like she wants a pay day now with all her anxiety! I honestly don’t know what to think of this dead pop star. I wish more attention would come on SS though .

whentheclockstrikes

Well she was only threatened with being murdered, no biggie right?

"McManus said she was scared to come forward because she 'was told by Michael’s bodyguards that they could hire a hit man to take me out.'"

Piscina

Yes, for the sake of the children, she should have said something. But perhaps she was too frightened--Jackson was powerful.

think-

This woman makes me sick! If she saw all that stuff go on then she should have spoke up!

Yes - how could she stay one minute longer with him when she found out about it?

Sounds like she wants a pay day now with all her anxiety!

Possible, because the Daily Mail reported that many film critics thought that the allegations against Jackson were highly credible after the screening of 'Leaving Neverland'.

This doesn't mean that she is lying though. I also think that he was a pedo.

Imnotshocked

Yes he probably was a pedo but I will never be 100 % sure because of all the shadiness that goes on. At least he’s dead and not harming kids anymore. Just wish some of the living pedos would go down .

think-

Just wish some of the living pedos would go down .

Yes, that would be terrific, I agree.

lopus

A friend of mine at the moment is totally anti-Jackson... says he was a monster-pedo. Because of that new movie coming out "Leaving Neverland". I have not yet seen this movie.

Here are a few articles

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/entertainment/celebrity/australian-choreographer-wade-robson-claims-michael-jackson-raped-him-seeks-162b-in-damages/news-story/1e97971987232d359d93c19d9752b6c8 ? Archive: https://archive.is/J7hRu

https://www.abqjournal.com/1275973/more-accusers-reveal-sex-abuse-by-michael-jackson.html Archive: https://archive.is/MWxPd

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/lostinshowbiz/2019/jan/31/r-kelly-michael-jackson-and-bryan-singer-who-knew-everyone ? Archive: https://archive.is/uBQuI

https://observer.com/2019/01/leaving-neverland-hbo-michael-jackson-documentary-know-before-you-watch/ Archive: https://archive.is/2AsZC

German article:

https://www.musikexpress.de/kindesmissbrauch-diese-doku-wird-michael-jacksons-ruf-endgueltig-ruinieren-1189849/ Archive: https://archive.is/WLHNr

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But I always was defending Michael Jackson a little bit.. for two reasons:

  1. The Establishment (which is disgusting pedovores themselves) obviously hated him.

  2. I never saw him appearing together with our "usual suspects"....like Epstein and the Clinton cabal...

.... but - wait- ... wasn't he good friends with Steven Spielberg..? ...and! I just found this article from 2016:

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t12957-the-exeter-connection-clement-freud-uri-geller-jimmy-savile-michael-jackson-greville-janner-and-robert-murat Archive: https://archive.is/oj6Xs

It claims that there are connections with creepy Uri Geller and some well known pedos like Greville Jenner and Clement Freud. Geller also was friends with Jimmy Savile

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Well, honestly, I don't know what to think of this. We have to face the opportunity, that Jackson was a pedo. But I do not think he was a satanist pedovore.

He probably liked to watch naked boys. And maybe he did disgusting shit with them. Nothing to excuse. Pedo.
But maybe he was acting "autonomously" and was "just" interested in being touchy and have some sexual "fun"... And maybe he was crazy enough to think the kids would appreciate these things.
But guess he was not into torturing kids and eating them and drinking their blood.

So he maybe was a pedo - but not a member of the cabal club? Or maybe he was a member of the club (from birth), but maybe at some time he quit the relationship with the cabal? And that's why "they" tried to expose him? With what they did themselves much worse?

Don't know. But there must be a reason for that the cabal hated him so much.

I think we can say: He did not need the cabal to get access to kids. He had access to the kids himself. He built his big "Neverland"-trap. He was rich enough to groom the kids himself and pay their parents hush money. He did not need the trafficking cabal.

Maybe he refused to deliver kids from Neverland to the cabal? And so become part in the big trafficking business? Or he just declined the cabal's invitation to an adrenochrome party? They could have offered him some "medicine" for all his health issus.... and he declined (because depite being a pedophile he was not interested in killing kids and take part in satanism?) - and so they knew, they cannot control him?

We should focus on the relationship "Jackson - cabal". And try to figure out, what maybe could be a reason that they tried to destroy him in the nineties.

And, just to make that clear: ANY pedophilia is disgusting! But maybe there are different levels of evil.... and it is naive to think that all pedos are part of the same club.

whentheclockstrikes

Michael Jackson was not only a pedophile, but he was also a big player in child trafficking.

Cabal hated him because of his extreme wealth and power, and in the cabals book, they aim to keep everyone broke and working for them. The mob hates competition.

In the article, "McManus said she was scared to come forward because she 'was told by Michael’s bodyguards that they could hire a hit man to take me out.'" Michael threatened kids he raped with "disappearing" and also threatened their parents.

*> He did not need the cabal to get access to kids. He had access to the kids himself. He built his big "Neverland"-trap. * Exactly, Neverland provided the perfect avenue for procuring children. But it was opened in 1988. He had to get his kids from somewhere before that and who knows how much blackmail the 'cabal' had on him at that point. Many pedophiles worked for Michael Jackson in procuring children, and it was an open secret what his 'type' was.

*>But guess he was not into torturing kids and eating them and drinking their blood. * I wouldn't be so sure about that...

Stephen Spielberg financed his early films with child pornography money.

They are competing gangs, all vying for turf and selling product (children, child porn).

Given his plying children (getting them drunk, drugging them), making physical threats to the children to keep them quiet, threatening their families, using manipulation and mind control tactics to control children, paying off charities and child abuse orgs with 'donations,' etc... I think it is safe to say his level of evil is off the charts. The man admitted to admiring Hitler and apparently borrowed from his tactics.

FireWalkWithPodesta

I think you are right. The other pedos hated him because MJ wasn't probably on the "dark side" of the pedo spectrum. I think another reason for the hate could be that MJ was too obvious pedo. All his shit has "PEDO" written all over it. He may have made the other pedos around him feel uncomfortable.

septimasexta

I agree. I think MJ's father may have made him a "victim." He had no normal childhood. They worked him to death.

"“I just remember hearing my mother scream, ‘Joe you’re gonna kill him, you’re gonna kill him, stop it,’” Michael recalled. “I was so fast he couldn’t catch me half the time, but when he would catch me, oh my god it was bad, it was really bad.” Michael also said his father would taunt him about his “fat nose”, and later told Winfrey he was so afraid of his father that he would sometimes vomit when he saw him. In 1979, Michael fired his father as his manager and took control of his career himself." https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/jun/27/joe-jackson-father-of-michael-jackson-dies-at-89

I think the appeal of Neverland was to replace a stolen childhood. He never had a chance at "normal." His later music video "They don't really care about us" appeared to expose Hollywood NWO types. It seems he did tick off people in high places.

Quite a talent at a very young age" "ABC" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U

They Don't Care About Us (Uncensored)+lyrics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8rw0i7oVAE

whentheclockstrikes

Stop apologizing for a full-blown pedophile and drug addict. People like Michael Jackson need to be outed and imprisoned, not idolized.

Shieldmaden

Neverland was raided and searched and the only porn found was straight, adult single normal dude stash stuff.

Piscina

They found photos of naked adults with faces of children superimposed on them.

Shieldmaden

Sauce?

Empire_of_the_mind

some jewish media report

Shieldmaden

Helpful.

think-

Here we go...

Michael Jackson 'kept photos of naked children and pornography stash' at Neverland Ranch, records show

Michael Jackson’s California home contained a considerable stash of pornography as well as sexual imagery featuring children, S&M and animal torture, according to purported police reports from the 2003 investigation of the superstar for child molestation.

http://archive.fo/W0Ggh

Shieldmaden

If he had child pornography he would have been charged with that. There was an inventory of all the material found and what MJ had on his nightstand was pictures of grown women. Who knows where the stuff laying all around his huge mansion with dozens of staff came from? What is “sexual imagery of a child”? It is likely not child pornography, because they would have called it that (and filed charges).

think-

No. The police officer responsible for the raid said they found all kinds of porn, not only 'straight, adult' stuff.

Shieldmaden

There are inventories of what was discovered. As far as I am aware nearly all of it is some sort of Hustler and Penthouse-type stuff. No young nude males or boylove stuff.

think-

I'm sure that they found homo porn stuff too. Not 100% sure, but IIRC, they also found some boy love stuff. I remember that, because when reading it at the time, I was actually surprised that they also found adult porn, both straight and homo, as I thought that Jackson was a pedo, I hadn't assumed they would find adult porn.

Shieldmaden

IIRC there was one book, among hundreds of girly magazines and centerfolds, that had some images of grown men. Not boys.

475677

There's never been any proof of MJ being a pedo. There's been accusations sure, but this cunt is saying that a private theater and having vaseline everywhere somehow makes him a pedo. WTF was he gonna do with that shit on his golf cart or in literally every room of the house? Seems to me that he had some use for it that wasn't lube because he was rich as fuck and would have bought it by the pallet if he found one he liked.

Now I'm not saying that having naked spas with kids is right, obviously that's more than a bit fucked up, but the man was robbed of his childhood and in his twisted mind probably equated that with the skinny dipping a lot of kids do down at the local river in their youth. After all his sole mission was to recreate the childhood he never had so that kind of shit seems infinitely more likely than trying to repeat the sexual abuse he undoubtedly suffered himself. Then again fags do reproduce that way so who knows but personally I don't believe it for a second.

Also if this cunt suspected anything and let it go on like she says she's just as guilty for not only allowing it to continue but literally hiding any evidence too. There's no statute of limitations when it comes to child sex offenses so I say hang her.

whentheclockstrikes

Fuck off and stop covering up for a notorious pedophile.

think-

After all his sole mission was to recreate the childhood he never had so that kind of shit seems infinitely more likely than trying to repeat the sexual abuse he undoubtedly suffered himself.

Not convinced.

Also if this cunt suspected anything and let it go on like she says she's just as guilty for not only allowing it to continue but literally hiding any evidence too.

Agree.

There's no statute of limitations when it comes to child sex offenses

Not true. Most US states have statute of limitations on these offences.

Otto-

Have to agree about most of these testimonies. I don't have any strong opinions either way, I'm open to accepting the harder truth. But when it comes to MJ, obviously, it feels like he's way too stardom level to accurately differentiate any of these accusations with reality or fiction. Anyone ever seen Eddie Griffin's interview on MJ, black stars in general and their relation to the press?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpOo-DtgUjs&t=319

Around 5:19 is where he and the interviewer share stories about Jackson's scandals. Reminiscent of Dave Chappelle's public grievances about Hollywood, PR, corporate interest, art and commerce, etc... Going further you'll more see conspiratorial claims about racial type casting and the like.

oddlike777

Quick, dig him up and arrest his corpse!

mwoew8t5cs

People will say anything for money.

i_scream_trucks

Fucken duh.

thelma

Thanks for clearly up what we already knew.