Remember. The link between NXIVM & Clintons was "Debunked". Desperate? ( pizzagate )

submitted by rickman

https://i.ibb.co/gJjtqZW/nx1.jpg

I know its from 2007 but what would stop them from being members?

argosciv

Debunked my fucking arse.

I've personally verified it more than once, via more than one angle.

Are_we_sure

How did you do you that? What did you find?

As for the screenshot about, what's the provenance of that ? How do we know it's legit?

argosciv

How did you do you that? What did you find?

It's quite easy to determine that they're (connected to/in league with) each other.

NXIVM | Bronfmans | InterActiveCorp (IAC) [ | Chelsea Clinton | Edgar Bronfman Jr.] | Barry Diller | Seagram | Bronfmans

That's just one angle. This particular tidbit was part of a much larger dig I undertook, in relation to an obscure Q post(deal with it).

As for the screenshot and the Scribd link, what's the provenance of that ? How do we know it's legit?

I don't care about that, I found connections of my own which can be easily demonstrated and which I've posted about before.

@Vindicator @Crensch @srayzie @Shizy @MolochHunter

Are_we_sure

There was a feud in the Bronfman family over NXVIM. Edgar is anti NXVIM and said he thought it was a cult back in 2003

argosciv

And it took what, 14 or 15 years, for anything to really come to the surface about NXIVM? Gimme a break.

If he was genuinely against it and the feud real, something would have been done sooner.

When you look at the common ground of Hollywood and a plethora of other connections, it's pretty damn clear that these fuckers were content with their money and interests being involved; they pretend to give a damn so that in the worst case scenario, the Clinton-Bronfman(et al) alliance can continue business as usual while at worst throwing a failed venture and maybe one or two family members under the bus.

If you can honestly sit there and say you can't see through their illusion, I'd be quite surprised.

I'm pretty sure you do understand what's at stake for these people and how much effort they put in to preserve their control, though. Your approach screams "Nothing to see here folks!"

Are_we__sure

And it took what, 14 or 15 years, for anything to really come to the surface about NXIVM? Gimme a break.

You don't actually know the timeline with NXVIM do you? The sex stuff that came to the surface only started recently and it was kept from most of the people in NXVIM. It was very hush-hush even within the group. The DOS sex part of NXVIM started in 2015. Only the very most inner circle knew about it. When they learned of the branding, people within NXVIM went to the Press. The NY Times story that really broke this wide open was in November 2017. They had the women go on the record. This story built upon reporting by Frank Parlato who when NXVIM sources first came to him, they were anonymous. A lot of folks in NXVIM learned about the branding from Frank Parlato's website.

The deal with NXVIM was they got worse, more paranoid, more controlling, etc. If you met Jim Jones in 1960's you wouldn't think he would kill 900 people in 1978. Group and cults have their own dynamics and they change like people do.

Here's a 2010 article about Bronfmans and their lawsuits. https://www.vanityfair.com/culture/2010/11/bronfman-201011

The guy who has written the most about NXVIM, Frank Parlato used to work for them. He didn't know the truth about them when he started. They presented themselves to the outside world as a group of self-improvement centers

argosciv

Do you seriously think the whole lot wasn't planned well in advance?

Its very inception was tainted by its basis, founder(+ associates) and a much broader plan. You can feign ignorance all you like, it's very obvious that your only intention is to try to delegitimize and deflect away from the close ties that the Bronfmans, Clintons and a host of others have.

I'm sure the vast majority of the people who got roped into NXIVM had no idea what was coming. Those behind it did, though. That's how shit like this works, you construct an up-front illusion then enact the real plan in the background slowly, making sure you have full control of those who are later let-in on the underlying scheme - didn't work out so well for them this time, though.

Seriously, save the "nothing to see here!" rubbish and jumping over to alt accounts just to push it.

Are_we__sure

You're just making shit up right because your mind is closed to facts

argosciv

Making shit up? Oh boy, your desperation to protect the reputation of the Bronfmans and Clintons is, aside from despicable, downright laughable. That you're so compelled to keep trying, says plenty about why you're even here in the first place.

Both your illusion and theirs, are very easy to see through.

Careful now, don't waste your 10 comments on every alt, on just this one topic - I'm sure there's plenty of other shit you need to attempt to cast doubt over.

lopus

scribd demands membership + credit card ...

Here is a FREE download of the file

https://slideus.org/philosophy-money.html?utm_source=081-clinton-s-global-initiative-2007-members-include-ark-paul-bernstein

rickman

I was able to view the file without being a member or signing up with a credit card.

lopus

"view" ... yes. But download...?

shewhomustbeobeyed

Great, thank you.

rickman

I mean what would stop them from continuing to be members?

Are_we_sure

Why didn't you link to the actual fact check your screenshot is from? https://www.factcheck.org/2018/05/false-story-ties-sex-cult-to-clintons/

Because the original source of these claim is a bullshit news site, yournewswire. You have to take anything, the guy behind yournewswire, Sean Adl-Tabatabai, says with a truckload of salt. You should never take this guy at face value.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180430202803/https://yournewswire.com/smallville-star-sold-children-rothschilds-clintons/

rickman

Well it says Members List. Not attendees list. Your opinion that they "may have been conference goers" amounts to nothing.

Considering the long history between the Clintons and the Bronfmans. As well as Sara Bronfman's husband Basit Igtet being involved in the overthrow of Gaddafi in Libya. I'd say its more likely they are part of the CGI and whatever spokesperson claims otherwise is simply lying through his teeth because its yet another Clinton connection to a vile criminal outfit.

Are_we_sure

yeah that's a totally legit way to get to the truth.

toutedesuite

We are sure you are a paid shill

Are_we_sure

Well you're wrong about a lot of things.