ThePopeIsAPedo

So they managed to blame: 1) conspiracy theorists (especially those involving pedophiles and the "Totally debunked" pizzagate theories) 2) skewed facts and redirected attention 3) guns (another reason for gun control)

Forget the instagram account / public images and associated connected people (James, David brock, tony/john/alex podesta, marina, the Vanderbilt pool, etc) The initial login site and encrypted files (and that the person contacted DC Capitol police and FBI. All the blatant symbolism and connections of comet ping pong, besta pizza and pegasus museum. Podesta emails and the Tamara luzutto - eve's crib. Skippy and Obama both with the middle finger bandaged. A simple pizza shop owner being one of the most influential people in DC?
There's just so much. Ben swans brief video had the potential to open this up, but alas..... so much more.

This whole sick topic needs to be exposed. We all know why it hasn't. They all have dirt on each other; those that investigate and prosecute.

Sick fucks.

PGIsDumb1234

There's just so much.

Not only that there's not "so much", there isn't anything at all. Every single piece of pizzagate "evidence" is based on lies, speculation and confirmation bias while there being zero evidence not only for an impossibly complicated/illuminati style satanic child sacrificing pedophile ring, but for any crime at all.

This whole sick topic needs to be exposed.

Unfortunately for you, you live in a reality where pizzagate is a ridiculous and obviously fictitious conspiracy theory. So good luck with that.

Onetime1

" .... zero evidence ..."

Would James Alefantis being caught telling a blatant lie on national TV be considered worthy of further investigation? Would his presumed reason for lying open up the plethora of incriminations that would expose this sordid situation?

You, now, could pull up the image of the little girl taped to the red table top from Alefantis' instagram.

Study it for a minute or two.

Look at the differences between the child's left and right arms, especially hand positions, sleeve lengths, and - crucially - the pieces of tape.

You will see that 14 pieces of painter's masking tape are holding the girl's arms down, while her torso is pressed tightly against the table, immobilizing her.

At least 2, possibly 3, people were involved in the taping and pinnioning of her arms.

On an interview with Megyn Kelly, Alefantis said a young sibling did it all by herself.

Really, now.

You go find me ONE parent - anywhere - who believes a toddler would willingly stay still while a sister ripped off - one by one 14 pieces of tape and emplaced them, one at a time, on her arms.

Blacksmith21

Don't engage the troll, just downvoat it. It's been around here as PGIisDumbXXX for years. No purpose in life.

Blacksmith21

I bumped into Tucker Carlson on the street in DC, right before he went bigtime, about Dec 2016. He and I spoke for about 15 minutes. I told him about Pizzagate and got the usual betwixt look from Tucker regarding CPP. He threw me when he said he and his wife liked to eat there (he lives within walking distance). I don't think he is complicit, given the torch he has carried for the Patriots, since getting his primetime slot. I'd guess he probably hasn't been back since.

PGIsDumb1234

He threw me when he said he and his wife liked to eat there

Enjoy living in a world where pizzagate is a ridiculous and obviously fictitious conspiracy theory.

Blacksmith21

Hahaha....you're a stupid fucking liar, but still funny nonetheless.

PGIsDumb1234

you're a stupid fucking liar

Nope, you're a stupid fucking conspiracy theorists with zero critical thinking skills.

PGIsDumb1234

Speaking of lies, the story about the hard drive being shot is a easily disprovable lie, yet you and the pizzagaters keep repeating it.

getting that "money shot" which renders a hard drive completely unrecoverable.

Don't worry, I'm not calling you a liar, I'm just calling you being unable to discern fact from fiction.

Blacksmith21

It's easy to hurl accusations, yet you post no counterpoint. Crawl back under your rock. You do realizes no one believes you, right? Enjoy the dick flavored downvoats.

PGIsDumb1234

You're just gonna move on and keep repeating the lie about the bullet hitting the hard drive? See why I say that facts and reason don't matter here?

Blacksmith21

Spare me your fake indignation member of 6.5 hours or as we like to say...shill. Go fuck yourself.

PGIsDumb1224

Really? You're gonna pull the "member for ... hours" card? After you admited that:

It's been around here as PGIisDumbXXX for years.

This is the lack of integrity I was talking about. This place is a shit hole of irrationality and conspiracy delusion.

PGIsDumb1234

Really? You're gonna pull the "member for ... hours" card? After you admited that:

It's been around here as PGIisDumbXXX for years.

This is the lack of integrity I was talking about. This place is a shit hole of irrationality and conspiracy delusion.

PGIsDumb1234

It's easy to hurl accusations, yet you post no counterpoint.

Lol It's so funny when you pizzagaters actually pretend to care about facts and reason and have any integrity at all.

Besides having zero evidence behind it, here's how the bullet that hit the hard drive nonsense can be easily disproved:

As you can see, the computer was hit in the middle top part(blue):

https://i.imgur.com/zi8zRVv.jpg

While the hard drive is situated in the front/middle part of a case(red). You can check.

You do realizes no one believes you, right?

Yes I do realize that this is an echo chamber of conspiracy insanity.

Enjoy the dick flavored downvoats.

How is being downvoated relevant in any way? :))

septimasexta

SO WHERE IS THIS CLOSET LOCATED? FRONT DINING AREA , middle ping pong area, or back "party room" behind the black curtains? Who actually saw OR HEARD Welch shoot inside the restaurant? How many shots did they hear? How many CUSTOMERS, besides Sharif actually saw Welch inside the restaurant? Did Welch actually own the Prius? A few weeks earlier, when he hit that child in North Carolina, he was driving his father's older American car, according to the police report. Was the Prius new?

PGIsDumb1234

you're a stupid fucking liar

Nope, you're a stupid fucking conspiracy theorists with zero critical thinking skills.

PGIsDumb1234

He threw me when he said he and his wife liked to eat there

Enjoy living in a world where pizzagate is a ridiculous and obviously fictitious conspiracy theory.

ThePopeIsAPedo

How's the kill room or Pegasus Museum doing James? (or any lurking friends )

PGIsDumb1234

What cam a room and a Museum be doing? Sitting there? Not buying into retarded conspiracy theories? :))

YogSoggoth

Gun Grab. Is that crisis actor even in jail?

Blacksmith21

He still has a BOP#

YogSoggoth

Sorry, late at night for me. What is BOP#?

Blacksmith21

Bureau of Prisons Inmate Number

YogSoggoth

Let's hope that guy is behind that #. It has been proven that the DC metro is corrupt like so many judges. What makes prison officials any less so?

Blacksmith21

IKR - A Prius. Big bad Trump loving redneck with guns and conspiracy theories....driving a Prius.

YogSoggoth

What is IKR? International Kremlin Republican? Irish Kraut renegade?

Blacksmith21

I Know Rght?

YogSoggoth

You kids with your slang. 23 skidoo.

Blacksmith21

No, my kids' slang.

YogSoggoth

Are you sure they are not in the Irish Kraut Renegade gang? Ask them, just to make sure. Dangerous bunch of people, I hear tell. They mix sauerkraut with potatoes, and cannot even afford decent spices, sausage, or cheese. Infinity tattoo is chasing the dragons tail, as in heroin addiction. Puff the magic dragon.

Blacksmith21

Chasing the dragon.

YogSoggoth

Uroborus.

YogSoggoth

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septimasexta

I wonder if it was government issued? Welch was driving his dad's older car when he hit that kid in North Carolina - about 2 weeks before he drove the Prius to Comet.

darkknight111

For those unaware, 9mm is standard issue PISTOL rounds.

5.56 IIRC is low grade rifle rounds (translates to .223?).

Blacksmith21

.223 is the mil issue round and 5.56 is civilian. That's my point though, they used a pistol round to minimize ricochet and/or over penetration. ARs chambered in 9mm aren't "rare", per se, but not common. If he knew what he was doing, he'd have used a shotgun to blow the lock off.

YogSoggoth

Lock? The initial story was he fired at the computer, disabling it forever with one shot.

Blacksmith21

The initial reports were 3, then 2, then 1 shot fired. Original story was that he shot the lock off to the little "computer closet" in CPP. The narrative skips over all those details because forensics doesn't support it.

Then there is the issue associated with firing a 9mm handgun round at a tower PC and getting that "money shot" which renders a hard drive completely unrecoverable.

YogSoggoth

Which would be almost impossible even if you memorized where the key components were. more so if you accidentally did it through even a small lock. 9mil is hardly bigger than a 22. Total BS.

Blacksmith21

For clarifications sake, I saw early forensic photos which I've not been able to find, that showed the AR carbine was chambered in 9 mm not 5.56.

But yes: https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/myth-busters-show-shooting-locks.416776/

think-

I remember that someone recently said here that the charges against him in the end (at the trial) didn't include firing shots in the end, only carrying a weapon and possibly (sorry, don't recall) threatning a CPP employee whom he met at the back door.

Is this true? I wish I could remember who wrote it.

septimasexta

Really? It's been documented and repeated many times. Just do a VOAT search. Hint: "assault with a deadly weapon" is not firing a weapon. Merely turning around while holding a long gun pointed at the floor and unexpectedly seeing someone enter the room, who then turns around and runs back out the same door---(as reported by a Comet employee in the INITIAL POLICE REPORT) that, can get the gun holder charged with "assault". Most citizens do not know the legal definition of that charge.

think-

Merely turning around while holding a long gun pointed at the floor and unexpectedly seeing someone enter the room, who then turns around and runs back out the same door---(as reported by a Comet employee in the INITIAL POLICE REPORT) that, can get the gun holder charged with "assault". Most citizens do not know the legal definition of that charge.

Well, thanks for clarifying.

Blacksmith21

@sallywoofs - See parent (OP)

think-

Interesting timing after Q's disinfo post re: Patton Oswalt feint move.

@Blacksmith21 , could you explain to us non-Q followers on the board what you mean? Thanks! :-)

Blacksmith21

Q posted a meme yesterday: https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/2bf127fcb7836517662af93454f8b4db3f51b93c1650052b10d15cb63ea8bc77.jpg

Then an anon pointed out it was 'shopped and Q reposted it: https://cdn.qmap.pub/images/e23b39b466f65287196949ed2c1df05012d953857fc7f52e1e8aa7547d558fb6.png

There was an obvious reason for it. Q team isn't fulled by fake memes. It was intentionally posted as disinfo, but for what purpose I'm not sure. In response to the fake post, Q responds:

"You are on the right track."

Ex: video clip re: paid to shill re: K bros.

Think context.

Think bigger picture.

Think connections.

Define 'Map'.

The truth can always be found.

Q

think-

Thank you! I admit that I have no clue what he means though, lol.

Yuke

Looked at the "Reveal" website. Found "Our supporters" and there you find a list of the usual who's-who of left-wing financiers, including the likes of Open Society, Ford Foundation, Bill Gates, Google News etc.

septimasexta

This is obviously MSM propaganda. It totally distracts from the fact that Welch calmly walked into Comet. Only ONE customer said he actually saw him as he walked past the ping pong tables through the back curtains and INTO THE AREA OF THE SUPPOSED "curtain fire". WELCH WAS NOT CHARGED WITH SHOOTING A FIREARM. No witness reported hearing gunfire. Welch supposedly fired his gun at the lock on a closet containing a computer hard drive. Welch had been involved about 2 weeks previously in hitting a child (walking on the side of the road) with his car. After his arrest at Comet, Welch did not take the 5th and did not have a lawyer present when he told them his "pizzagate" story. In his earlier car hit of a child, he was driving an older car owned by his father. 2 weeks later he is driving a newer Prius from North Carolina to Comet. WHY DID HE CHANGE CARS??????? Welch supposedly has a child. What happened to him/her? So many anomalies with that story.

This video is just an excuse to recant the misinfo on Comet and link it to the newer "curtain fire" story. Obviously people with clout and money behind this. Free speech makes it harder to control the narrative. The MSM brainwash machine is failing them....

septimasexta

Reposting my comments from https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2603679

"HE WAS, HOWEVER, FRIENDS WITH THE INTERIM D.C. POLICE CHIEF AND INVESTIGATING OFFICER:

"At Comet #pizzagate ping pong pizzeria in neighborhood solidarity. Owner Jim Alifantis & Interim-DC Police Chief Peter Newsham below. Cool." SEE PHOTO: http://archive.is/jaUpf#selection-3807.0-3817.120 Look under the "WE" It says "F...FAKE NEWS" LOL! They originally planned to discredit Pizzagate by calling it "Fake News"....until Trump used the phrase on THEM.

WHO IS SHARIF SILMI? Maryland lawyer Sharif Silmi appears to be the only NAMED and interviewed "witness" of Welch in Comet Ping Pong. Each of his accounts in several different interviews differs.

ARTICLE: "“A lot of us saw he had a gun and we all started getting our families out,” says Sharif Silmi, a Maryland lawyer who was at the restaurant with his wife and three children. “The staff came and got us.”

"Silmi says his family stopped by Comet Ping Pong as part of a day trip to Chevy Chase that also included plans to stop by Politics & Prose and the Little Red Fox bakery, Comet Ping Pong’s neighboring businesses on its homey block of Connecticut Ave., Northwest, which have caught some spillover flak from Pizzagate conspiracy theorists."

"Police, who Silmi says arrived about two to three minutes after the gunman entered the restaurant, have not released the suspect’s name."

Silmi says that since the November 8 election, he and his family, who are Muslim, have felt a bit more cautious." https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/04/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-comet-ping-pong/ WRITTEN BY BENJAMIN FREED AND JESSICA SIDMAN | PUBLISHED ON DECEMBER 4, 2016 Benjamin Freed Staff Writer Benjamin Freed joined Washingtonian in August 2013 and covers politics, business, and media. He was previously the editor of DCist and has also written for Washington City Paper, the New York Times, the New Republic, Slate, and BuzzFeed. He lives in Adams Morgan. (near Comet Ping Pong)

ANOTHER ARTICLE: "Eyewitness Sharif Silmi was at the restaurant with his wife and three children — ages 7,9 and 12, when the suspect walked in.

“He walked right past us holding a shotgun, when we realized what was going on we gathered our young ones and started moving toward the exit,” Silmi told CNN. “It was very swift, quick exit, everybody moved out very smoothly.”

Silmi, who lives in Maryland, told CNN he and his family are Muslim and that he blamed those who were spreading “false rumors [about Comet Ping Pong] online. They put our children’s lives in danger today.”

Silmi said he did not hear the man speak." Man armed with assault rifle storms Comet Ping Pong in response to fake news reports: police POSTED 6:18 AM, DECEMBER 5, 2016, BY CNN WIRE https://pix11.com/2016/12/05/man-armed-with-assault-rifle-storms-comet-ping-pong-in-response-to-fake-news-reports-police/

VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH ALEX JONES: Alex jones interviews another "witness," Sharif Silmi. According to his statement in the video, he only saw Welsh "in his peripheral vision" and "could see he had a CONCEALED weapon. HE DID NOT SEE WELSH FIRE A GUN NOR DID HE HEAR GUNSHOTS. HE DID NOT STATE WHAT HE AND HIS FAMILY DID AFTER WELCH WALKED BY. HE DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WERE FRIGHTENED AND RAN OUT. NOTHING. The witness was playing ping pong towards the back middle of the restaurant. He was not still seated up front by the front door. See you tube video at 4:10 http://deadstate.org/alex-jones-scrambles-to-erase-pizzagate-stories-after-d-c-pizzeria-shooting/

VIDEO INTERVIEW WITH AP Silmi thought Welsh was a concealed carry security guard. NO MENTION OF A CRAZED SHOOTER BRANDISHING A LONG FIREARM. Did not say he heard gunshots. Did not say he saw Welsh aim or shoot a gun. Says Welsh entered the back section room behind the ping pong tables. It was dark and closed off. It wasn't until a waitress told them to get out of the building that they left. Silmi's name is not mentioned in the D.C. incident report. The worker(s) who warned patrons (no mention of how many were in there at that time) HAVE NEVER BEEN NAMED NOR INTERVIEWED IN THE PRESS. Only ONE worker was named in the D.C. incident report. That is the one Welsh allegedly pointed a gun in their direction and they fled out the back door and called police. THIS IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS THE VICTIM OF "Assault with a dangerous weapon". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTLDKzn80nUYouTube

THE FINAL INCIDENT REPORT (See "Public Narrative" at bottom.) https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report

Making a Comet Pizza incident time line would be interesting.

https://www.scribd.com/document/333293577/Comet-Gunman-Incident-Report According to the Final Incident Report: Incident started at 14:57 (2:57 pm) and ended at 16:30 (4:30pm)

From the "Public Narrative" at bottom of report it indicates that victim R-1 (only victim mentioned) saw Welch in restaurant, fled out door in back of restaurant and called 911 at 2:57.

According to Silmi's several statements to the press, he and his family arrived at Comet Pizza at 2:00pm. How long did it take them to eat? They had finished eating and had moved to the middle of the restaurant to play ping pong. Some time before 2:57pm, Welsh allegedly walked by, headed to the room at the back of the restaurant, behind the ping pong tables. Silmi allegedly saw Welch from the PERIPHERY of his eye and noticed he was carrying a concealed weapon. Concluded he was a security guard. Shortly after, he was told by an employee someone had a gun and they should immediately leave. They did. No gun shot was heard.

"When Welch entered the restaurant he allegedly pointed the rifle in the direction of an employee who police said was able to flee and notify police. Patrons inside the restaurant HAD rushed out of the building." https://pix11.com/2016/12/05/man-armed-with-assault-rifle-storms-comet-ping-pong-in-response-to-fake-news-reports-police/ SOUNDS LIKE THE PATRONS LEFT BEFORE THE EMPLOYEE FLED AND CALLED 911. Was the employee already at the back of the restaurant? Some accounts said he came in the back door and Welch was in that area. He turned around and left through the same door. This would fit Silmi's account. Therefore most likely no shots were fired PRIOR TO 2:57pm

"On Sunday patrons inside the restaurant ran out when the suspect entered." https://pix11.com/2016/12/05/man-armed-with-assault-rifle-storms-comet-ping-pong-in-response-to-fake-news-reports-police/ Based on Silmi, Welsh must have entered close to 2:57pm- I'm guessing about 2:50 because between 2:00pm and 2:57pm, Silmi and family had to order, eat, finish, get up and move to the middle of the restaurant and start playing ping pong BEFORE Welsh allegedly walked by. No gun shots were heard during this time according to Silmi.

"Acting DC Police Chief Peter Newsham told reporters Sunday evening that Welch walked into Comet Ping Pong and did fire at least one shot into the ground. " https://www.washingtonian.com/2016/12/04/man-with-rifle-arrested-at-comet-ping-pong/ SO AT WHAT TIME DID THIS TAKE PLACE? It most likely would have happened AFTER 2:57. This is not noted in the Incident Report. No information on WHERE this happened inside the restaurant. No witnesses to Welch firing a gun.

"Police, who Silmi says arrived about two to three minutes after the gunman entered the restaurant, have not released the suspect’s name." HMM. HOW DO I FIT THIS INTO MY TIMELINE? On second look, the Final Incidence Report leaves it unclear if the 2:57pm time refers to the time Welch allegedly pointed the rifle in the direction of the employee, or when he called 911 after exiting through the rear door (he and Welch were already back there). It sounds like the 2 incidences were very close together. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THE 911 RECORDING. IT WOULD CLEAR UP TIMELINE AND VERIFY IF A SHOT WAS REPORTED. Let's say that the police were called at 2:57. HOW LONG DID IT TAKE THEM TO GET THERE? We already estimated that Welch entered Comet at 2:50, based on Silmi's statements. That would mean the police arrived at 2:52-2:53pm. BUT THAT DOESN'T WORK. Did the police ARRIVE at 2:57pm? If so, according to Silmi, Welch entered Comet at 2:54-2:55pm. SO, Silmi was back playing ping pong with his family at 2:54, when Welch allegedly walked by to the back area of the restaurant. That would mean that back area, behind the ping pong tables, is where he encountered the employee, who then fled out the back door in that area and called 911. It is still an almost IMPOSSIBLY TIGHT TIMELINE. It appears that any alleged gun shot(s) happened AFTER THE POLICE ARRIVED and bulding occupants had all left. NO WITNESSES? NO POLICE HEARD SHOTS? Can any VOATERS come up with a more accurate timeline? MORE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS.

ACCORDING TO WaPo's ACCOUNT, GUN WAS FIRED BEFORE WORKER IN BACK RAN OUT: "The few patrons had fled before Welch shot off the lock to an inside door, sending a bullet into a computer tower. The North Carolina man then turned the gun on an employee who emerged from the back holding pizza dough. The worker ran out, unharmed." https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/alleged-gunman-tells-police-he-wanted-to-rescue-children-at-dc-pizza-shop-after-hearing-fictional-internet-accounts/2016/12/05/cb5ebabc-bae8-11e6-ac85-094a21c44abc_story.html?utm_term=.a2467400c1b8&noredirect=on

septimasexta

Just realized that in Sharif Silmi's AP video interview, he says Comet has three areas: front dining, middle ping pong, AND BACK PRIVATE PARTY ROOM WITH A BAR. see :30 to 1:16. HOW DID HE KNOW WHAT WAS BEHIND THE CURTAIN? Had he been to a private party there? By description, this is the same area of the alleged curtain fire.

septimasexta

CONTINUED

I think this is the man that filed original criminal complaint: "TUESDAY, MARCH 28, 2006 Former KLRT Sports Anchor Enters Police Academy Former KLRT weekend Sports Anchor is one of 21 Little Rock Police Department recruits now undergoing training. A tipster says, "KTHV reported last night that the LRPD had 21 new recruits and they interviewed Officer Holgate, which explains the opening at fox16. He is also quoted in today's Arkansas Democrat Gazette.

"Justin Holgate, 32, left a career as a television journalist to join the class. “This is a chance for me to give back to the community,” Holgate said."" https://arkansastvnewswatch.blogspot.com/2006/03/former-klrt-sports-anchor-enters.html

FEDERAL CRIMINAL COMPLAINT: filed 12:12:16 (8 days after incident) https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3237677/Welch-Edgar-Federal-Complaint-Dec-2016.pdf

NOTE: D.C. police were involved first and wrote up a brief incidence report.

Yet more conflicting accounts.

On Dec. 6, 2016, (2 days after incident) WaPo published this article. See how many "inconsistencies" you can find: "Pizzagate: From rumor, to hashtag, to gunfire in D.C." https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/pizzagate-from-rumor-to-hashtag-to-gunfire-in-dc/2016/12/06/4c7def50-bbd4-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.51c9a2600346

And another from Dec. 5 READ ALL ACCOUNTS AND NOTE INCONSISTENCIES "Washington gunman motivated by fake news 'Pizzagate' conspiracy" https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/05/gunman-detained-at-comet-pizza-restaurant-was-self-investigating-fake-news-reports

THIS IS FROM WELCH'S HOME TOWN PAPER, 2 DAYS AFTER INCIDENT "D.C. pizza restaurant shooting suspect from Salisbury remains in jail on gun charges" "Welch is listed in the credits of minor films in roles that include extra and production assistant." https://www.salisburypost.com/2016/12/06/d-c-pizza-restaurant-shooter-salisbury-remains-jail-gun-charges/ Welch's dad was Register of Deeds of Rowan County, North Carolina, https://caselaw.findlaw.com/nc-court-of-appeals/1693619.html "The Register of Deeds Office provides numerous services to the working community and the general public. By law, the Register of Deeds is charged with the integrity, completeness, accuracy, and safekeeping of all public records recorded in the office. " https://www.rowancountync.gov/490/Register-Of-Deeds

ANOTHER POST "Edgar Maddison Welch, the actor who went to Comet Ping Pong with three guns on December 4, 2016, and did "something", allegedly "firing a gun", according to the #NewYorkTimesEatsBabies, supposedly because he was influenced by "fake news" on the internet about that "insane PizzaGate conspiracy theory", also starred in a 2005 movie called "Something About Pizza", which is apparently about a young girl (“pizza”) who goes on a killing spree because her brother ate her pizza, in which Welch played the role of The Gunman. Then in December, after Welch became known worldwide as the Comet Pizza Gunman, Welch's credit for the role of The Gunman in "Something About Pizza" was removed from IMDB."

"UPDATE: AUGUST 2, 2017: A citizen investigator named Howard Caplan filed a Freedom of Information Act request for the Washington Metropolitan Police report and police photos from the December 4, 2016 “shooting incident” at Comet Ping Pong, because no person on Earth who actually gets paid to do “journalism” would do that. Howard Caplan’s FOIA request was denied in April for unexplained reasons, and he is appealing that decision. “We can neither admit nor deny the existence of any records responsive to your request pursuant to D.C. Official Code 2-534.” " https://www.facebook.com/notes/cannabis-cures-cancers/something-about-the-comet-pizza-false-flag-attack/1254948101207742/

Blacksmith21

Interesting....I wonder what their angle was? Although ignoring general orders is no big deal to the left. They probably didn't see a thing suspicious.

think-

Thanks for the ping @Blacksmith21 . Pinging @darkknight111 for you (sp.).

Vindicator

What's interesting about this story is that it comes from a FOIA request supposedly made a year ago by https://www.revealnews.org , which appears to be a leftist outlet meant to look like an independent alternative news blog. If you look at their website, though, you'll see them pushing all the usual narratives, especially the "rise of hate" meme.

If Q deliberately trolled the cabal with a fake Oswalt tweet, and they responded with this, it is very interesting timing.

SandHog

Titus Frost and BigFish both say they tried to FOIA that information as well and were denied.

Blacksmith21

Very interesting. And that video is being picked up by all the local networks.

Vindicator

"Picked up". LOL. More like "spread".

SandHog

Yeah. It's basically just the msm masquerading as 'alternative independent journalism' so they can source their own talking points without the normies being aware of what is going on.

septimasexta

AKA "alt-LEFT"

Vindicator

@Blacksmith21 see Sandhog's parent comment. RevealNews is a disinfo pusher.

septimasexta

BINGO!

Vindicator

Interesting! Now that doesn't surprise me at all. This hokum about "waiting a whole year" for a response is just bullshit made up by RevealNews to make their reporting appear more objective and independent. I could tell just by the way they emphasized it. What a bunch of frauds.

SandHog

Just look at their board of directors .

Vindicator

Director Suzette Clarke is a public relations and communications consultant to CEOs and boards of directors and an angel and venture capital investor. From 1996 to 2003, she was Hewlett-Packard Co.’s vice president of global communications, with responsibility for its worldwide public relations . Prior to that, Clarke was an independent producer in television and documentary for Wired, BBC, PBS and Channel Four Films. In addition to serving on CIR’s board, she is president of the board of directors of Slide Ranch, a nonprofit teaching farm.

Oh, look! Clarke just happened to be at Hewlett-Packard during the same years as Silsby

Here it lays out that many people involved in pizzagate come from HP in Boise, Idaho, including:

Laura Silsby, worked at **HP Boise for 6 years (1992-1998) ** source

Von Hansen, ex-Vice President at HP Boise , source head of AlertSense, allegedly paid Trey McIntyre dancers around $80K per year for 5 years tied to Alefantis (later denied by Hansen) source source

James Hammons, co-founded PersonalShopper.com with Silsby, worked at HP Boise source

Andy Moore, another child-stealer, worked in Distribution at HP Boise for 4 years (1991-1995) , also PersonalShopper source

And then Richard Hackborn, former HP Chairman, also was Vice President of HP Boise Printer Division from 1990 , so literally Silsby's boss. source source

(detailed in this post by @Jewfighter33 ).

And what the hell is Slide Ranch, where she is president of the board? Oh, goodie...another kids charity " Planting kids in Nature since 1970 ."

No wonder they got the police body cam footage.

@Blacksmith21

SandHog

Here's another interesting piece of info I just discovered. William R. Hearst III is also on the BoD of Reveal. Esquire magazine (owned by Hearst magazines) spiked the recent Bryan Singer expose. So that's two members of the board at Reveal now with curious ties.

Gabriel Stricker is another interesting character. He also sits on the board at Planned Parenthood Action Fund. Bio below; emphasis is mine.

Gabriel Stricker is vice president of communications at Niantic Inc., which focuses on creating augmented reality games that encourage outdoor activity and exploration. Previously, he served as the vice president of policy and communications at Google Fiber, a subsidiary of Alphabet Inc. Before that, Stricker served as the chief communications officer of Twitter, where he led its public policy and media relations functions. He began his career in the electoral arena, having played a key role on campaigns for political and governmental clients around the world . He is the author of the best-selling book on guerrilla marketing, “Mao in the Boardroom.” Stricker received his undergraduate degree from the University of California, Berkeley and his master’s degree in international affairs from Columbia University. He serves on the board of the Planned Parenthood Action Fund and has served on CIR’s board since 2011 .

@Blacksmith21

Vindicator

Nice catch!

SandHog

Well damn...that was serendipitous. I had no idea about the HP connections to Silsby. I just posted the board of directors link because I saw all of the leftist news media ties.

Vindicator

I don't believe in serendipity. ;-)

Yuke

There was a very obvious anti AR-15 element to that EMW video too, with selective editing comments highlighted about how ineffective certain protections are against the fearsome AR-15, according to the officers.

septimasexta

THE WHOLE VID WAS A HIT PIECE. They're desperate. They are trying to imitate their "enemy" LOL!

ASolo

I'm trying to wrap my head around your premise and I think I get it but that's some pretty pertinent information as to where the video of Welch's arrest is coming from. You would have thought it would have been someone on the Pizzagate side but when you look at the video it is slanted slightly toward the left as if Welch was completely out of touch with his assumptions.

There are some nuances to Welch's behavior that are interesting as well.

Some good observations and possible psychological operations being employed to keep us all on our toes. There are dozens of ways these intelligence agencies love to fuck with our heads thanks for helping us all keep that in mind.

Vindicator

Interesting, isn't it! It always pays to check the source.

There are dozens of ways these intelligence agencies love to fuck with our heads thanks for helping us all keep that in mind.

The more we discuss all the possible scenarios to these news reports, the better able we are to cut through the disinfo. That is our greatest strength.

Yuke

I thought that was diversity?

Have I been lied to? Damn.

think-

LOL

Blacksmith21

I haven't had time yet (workus interruptus) to dig into the group, but I had the same thoughts. Interesting that they point out the inconsistencies within the video. I'm wondering if its worth reaching out to this group? Maybe educate them?

Vindicator

Take a look at their webpage first. I think they are probably Shareblue or something like that, masquerading as independent. I doubt they can be educated.

septimasexta

Remember, sHAIR Blue is run by JA's (former?) boyfriend. Never forget that. This video is obviously a hit piece.

ASolo

It DOES seem odd that Welch would be allowed to stand outside of the police vehicle while being questioned. He seemed quite cooperative and amenable to the police when they arrested him which could be the explanation of why but with such an arsenal of weapons it does seem out of character for the DC police department. There are always these small clues and details in some of these investigations that are so sticky that they could go anywhichway, this could also very well be proof they knew he was no harm because he is identifying the agency he works for to set this up as a cover for Comet. Quite an interesting thread I wonder what kind of debate it will generate?

Blacksmith21

The let him have access to a video teleconference suite to conduct an interview with the NYT post-arrest and pre-arraignment. No one I know on MPD even knew such tech existed at the jailhouse. Moreover, no one had EVER heard of any suspect in custody being allowed to conduct any form of an interview during custody. Then Kathy LAnier split to take her 2M job with the NFL as head of security (shocker) and let Newsham, JA's good buddy, take over where Lanier left off.

think-

Moreover, no one had EVER heard of any suspect in custody being allowed to conduct any form of an interview during custody.

Indeed.

Fateswebb

Yeah very weird. Typically before arraignment you're not allowed to do squat. Or even after arraignment for that matter.

Blacksmith21

https://abcnews.go.com/US/takeaways-york-times-interview-pizzagate-gunman/story?id=44059783

"Welch spoke to the Times via videoconference Wednesday, his only conversation with the news media since his arrest. Here are a few takeaways from their conversation:"

Onetime1

Great work, guys.

One of the biggest 'tells' I've identified over many decades of observing this stuff is the degree of media exposure any event gets.

Specifically, if a questionably authentic event is splashed non stop over all media platforms for days, it probably involves some planned fuckery.

Conversely, events that should prompt curiousity and further investigation get memory holed in the blink of an eye.

This metric has proven very effective in evaluating the degree of deceit involved.

think-

One of the biggest 'tells' I've identified over many decades of observing this stuff is the degree of media exposure any event gets.

That's why I love reading The Guardian so much. ;-) . If I see that they push a certain story / narrative, I can always be sure that they're up to something behind the scenes. Has turned out to be a good indicator.

Onetime1

+1000

Blacksmith21

How about splashing "PIZZAGATE" across the TV screen over 2 years after the incident. In the scheme of things, the CPP FF was a nothing. No one talks about Las Vegas, yet Pizzagate is still in the news every other month? Sounds like programming reinforcement.

think-

How about splashing "PIZZAGATE" across the TV screen over 2 years after the incident.

Oh, that constantly backfires, don't you worry => Streisand effect. Every time they mention Pizzagate, people will know our investigation is still alive and kicking. :-)

think-

They are certainly pi**ed off that we're still here.

Also note that Voat never gets mentioned anywhere in the news articles about 'conspiracy theories'. Although it hosts the v/pizzagate sub, and the three Q subs.

Only the chans, and the chan culture is so far away from the average normie, that they don't have to be afraid many people will go there.

While mentioning Voat might drive many people here.

Onetime1

Bingo!

Also, the chans have been inundated with poisonous shilling (another hallmark of valid investigating. Who the fuck would spend ENORMOUS resources despoiling some pimply-faced teenager's ramblings?).

This site has remained remarkably focused with on target postings.

Biggest surge of shills accompanied the influx of Reddit folks a few months back, and even that has diminished greatly.

All the more evidence of the validity of what we are doing.

Again, many thanks to all the good hearted posters, commentators, moderators, and owner(s) of this board.

think-

Again, many thanks to all the good hearted posters, commentators, moderators, and owner(s) of this board.

Thank you, @Onetime1 . Much appreciated.

I'd also like to give a shout-out to the lurkers here, who have been reading our posts and discussions over the past two years, and have used the info to redpill friends and family! :-)

Blacksmith21

This is the last place they want found.

Enjoy the skit: https://twitter.com/i/status/1100200507887443975

SandHog

I'll see your Silverman/Oswalt pedo skit and raise you a Rick and Morty/Patton Oswalt/My Little Pony ultimate pedo crossover episode.

Blacksmith21

I start the bidding to beat Oswalt to death with an aluminum baseball bat at 20,000 dollars.

Fateswebb

So obviously staged for the media.

ASolo

There are some interesting news bits happening today. I saw that thing about Q outing Oswalt. I'm no Q supporter but I am interested in why you claim this was disinfo, there seems to be a picture of Oswald IN CPP saying that he "caught this tasty morsel" INSIDE Comet Ping Pong. Came here thinking someone would be all over it but apparently not.

Lansing-Michigan

"I'm no Q supporter but I am interested in why you claim this was disinfo". It does not fit into the voat.co paradigm that Q is fake. Our rulers are laughing because this website takes pride in primo investigative reporting.Could it be some of Q is on target and some not?

ASolo

Oh please, don't start the Q debate here. It's quite a complex subject and you know that. There's truth in there but there's also an agenda, that's where I stand. I'm perplexed as to why Q would disseminate a doctored photo that would destroy it's credibility from within? Geeez I guess this is where those of us that have ignored this Q thing run into a bit of trouble because I don't have the slightest idea of what the blokes are up to nowadays except for the empty promises and stretched timelines.

FuckUredditFuckuSpez

That's His daughter... her Name is Alice. All of the pictures of her are creepy as fuck. I wonder why His wife was killed prior to "The golden State killer" being caught. I know she was writing a book on "him" at the time of her death... Obviously the Golden state Killer, Like most serial killers, was just a way to close Hundreds of shadow government/cult murders... But Was she actually going to present information they didn't want presented? But Why wouldn't they just tell her not to... Did she actually kill herself because she knew what was coming? i just don't get why they would have to kill her.

Vindicator

I saw that yesterday, too, but didn't fully understand it and haven't yet had time to dig in. Some were saying the Oswalt Comet thing was a fake. There were several Q drops related to this yesterday. We had a post mentioning it, but it was very poorly put together with a broken link and had to be flaired. I'll try to put something better together today, after I've had a chance to understand it.

Blacksmith21

It was proven fake. The photo was from some movie premier. Oswalt does have lots of pro-pedo Tweets, so not out of context. My guess is the faked meme was to get people looking at CPP and Oswalt more closely. Also, easy to say "it's fake" and point to the scores of real tweets.

Whether or not you follow Q, much less believe in them, millions and millions of people hit Qmap.pub daily. There are usually 150-250k users on it at any given moment. And Q occasionally posts deep PG-related topics - LdR; CPP; AC360 + mom GV; Rothschild pool; Podesta art, etc.

ASolo

Ok... gotcha there yall, starting to understand much better, thanks Vindicator and Blacksmith

ASolo

And FuckUredditFuckuSpez