NowThatsInteresting

That’s the deleted submission

https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/3032081

NowThatsInteresting

Thanks for sharing Baichu, I know of her since a couple of weeks. There was a submission here on voat maybe one or two weeks ago, that was rather very quickly deleted by one of the mods. I’m not sure who deleted it but I thought it deserved a 24h grace for fixing the OP’s submission issue.

Her name is Karly Noel Franz and she made just a dozen videos. According to her she had enough. We need to dig in here.

Relates to pizzagate as she’s accusing the highest ranks in freemasonry to be pedophiles. These people are considered elite imo.

think-

There wasn't only the deleted submission, in fact another of her submissions was stickied by the mods.

You can find all submissions about her when using searchvoat.co in the sidebar.

NowThatsInteresting

I must have missed that sticky. I’m not new here, I should’ve searched properly. Thanks think

think-

No problem; but not sure whether I was wrong, and seemed to remember another victim. Maybe her name was only mentioned in the video, not in the post.

Anyway, here's the deleted submission: https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/3032081

It was deleted because it didn't adhere to Rule 6 - we don't accept mere link posts anymore.

So mod @EricKaliberhall had to delete it, but invited OP to repost as 'Discuss' post. But the OP didn't repost, it seems.

NowThatsInteresting

Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

think-

Welcome, @NowThatsInteresting .

@Vindicator might remember which post about an MK Ultra victim was recently stickied.

Vindicator

Hmmm...that doesn't ring a bell for me at the moment.

think-

It was a young lady suffering from DID - we had an extensive debate about the Monarch program on the thread IIRC.

Vindicator

Well, here's the debate about the monarch program .* However, the submission wasn't stickied, because of that. I had to give it an accuracy flair, because we were unable to verify whether Monarch really existed.

*The way I found that quickly was a google search using this string: "Site: Voat.co Monarch Vindicator think-" It was the third link. :-)

think-

An early post about Katy Groves WAS stickied. It's this one: https://www.voat.co/v/pizzagate/2987382

Yes, that's the one I meant! :-) And it was another survivor, so my bad.

@NowThatsInteresting

YogiPokes

She's a complete fraud and psychopath. I know that SRA and human trafficking is very real but she is not. If you listen to her "testimony", she claims she was 2, no 3 or 4 when this "incident" happened as she recounts all the details of her ordeal from seeing masonic symbols on the men's aprons to turning left into a hallway and seeing 150 men at the hall. Do you think this is a realistic memory of a 4 year old? Also, if you watch all her videos she is completely disconnected from the story emotionally and you can actually see her pulling "memories" out of her a$$. The best tell sign of her bull is that she recounts the order in which she explains her story with the details in the exact same order in all her videos. Like a memorized story. She's pathetic.

Onetime1

Should you have any familiarity with the likes of Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, even the presumed ONI agent Delmart "Mike" Vreeland, you would immediately recognize that 100%, repeatable, total recall is but one of the hallmarks of so called mind controlled subjects.

The capacity to repeat verbatim lengthy messages, documents, or - in Vreeland's case - sophisticated blueprints, can be created via a hynosis-like state.

You certainly need not research into the various Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID) stories, but a ten minute read of the famous Greenbaum Speech from D.C.Hammond would show that this woman, Ms. Franz, is acting exactly how any survivor of these atrocities would be expected to act.

Her pleas for believability ought to spark more research, not outright dismissal.

Thanks for posting this.

lookingforadvice1

There's a channel that's been dropping video that has women that have been trafficked telling the stories of their abuse. I can't find it rn, but stylistically the videos all look the same....black and white, sort of editorial style, white back-ground, subjects in center frame.

From delving into this world, there ARE people who fake this shit for attention (Sacha Stone endorsed chick...forget her name. Obvious psychopath...attractive red-head....claimed she was sewn into the body of a dead person as a kid).

Judging some of these new youtube testimonials against ones from survivors that seem legit (Katy Groves, etc.), feel like maybe there's an effort to muddy the waters afoot. Haven't looked into this women (Franz), but have been seeing 'testimonials' popping up with higher production values, which seems like a red flag to me.

Don't mean to dismiss what this woman has to say (going to listen to her right now), just aware whoever is behind these types of abuse - from everything we know about it - is obviously keeping an eye on all victims, and is aware of what they're doing, and has the power and capabilites to introduce bad actors into the equation. It sucks coz you don't want to question someone that's sharing something painful and heartfelt, but that hesitance to question is also what allows 'big lies' to slip into the conversation....it's a tricky, precarious razors edge to dance on with these things.

NowThatsInteresting

Very well put indeed and I fully agree with you. All I am trying to achieve is that we don’t dismiss her without looking more into it. I’m not dismissing that this could be fake but all my senses tell me she’s genuine. There is something about her.

Attention seekers usually don’t tell to ruin their own family name. Too high of a price for some attention.

lookingforadvice1

For sure....and that same logic of 'there's nothing to be gained from publicly admitting these things' is what initially lead me to believe some of the people that have publicly come forward to share these things. I believe a lot of personal anecdotes for that very reason still....however, I've just seen a whole bunch of new testimonials cropping up recently since this whole thing came onto our radar; so many, in fact, that I haven't even been able to keep up with them. Either there is a flood of people coming forward on the wave of the first victims (which I would love to believe), or the handlers are panicking and putting our disinfo; the skeptical/cynical mind says at least a few of them are 'limited hangouts' (in the parlance of the more conspiratorial). Issac Kappy, anyone?

The people that do the horrific shit we're concerned with are some of the most sophisticated actors around, if we're to believe all we've come to learn....how do we know these confessionals aren't coming from alters that are programmed to say this stuff? Alters that are then programmed to do something else if they ever gain traction? Again, really not saying 'don't believe victims'. Just saying, be aware there's probably fugazi's in this arena. We're watching videos of these people, we don't know them. We're in an outside position, looking into a window of a world we don't truly know or understand.

I feel bad coz maybe it sounds like I'm coming in here and saying 'use your caution when listening to this lady' who I still haven't even listened to yet.....I'm not. I'm just saying, keep all this in your mind while evaluating these people that are coming forward.

NowThatsInteresting

I completely understand what you are saying and share your concerns. Yes there are many new testimonies online right now, I see them too. But it’s one thing to accuse famous people to gain traction and another when you accuse people nobody ever heard of and are not public people or famous whatsoever.

Plus she’s giving up on these videos even though she managed to gather in one week 13k followers.

Overall I fully agree with you, just don’t think it’s the case with Karly.

Onetime1

Lookingforadvice

That may be the single best comment I have ever read on Voat.

Outstanding recognition of, and presentation of, just a few of the "moves/counter moves" involved in sophisticated intelligence operations.

Your eye for "higher production values" is exactly a potential "tell" that organized, resource-rich black hats may bring to this arena. The very fact that this may be taking place (putting out sophisticated disinfo) is further evidence that we are making a difference.

Rest assured, people, we are not dealing with bottom of the barrel scumbags.

Baichu

I have no idea about her. Just posting this because I happened to come across it.

Some memories for children who have been traumatized are very real.

She says she cannot report this as the police are suspect. Cops are compromised and masonic.

Let's be real here. The freemasons are complete lunatics from what I've read and heard and seen.

paulf

Careful. Vivid memories from 4 and even younger, emotional disconnection and a robotic method of recall can be evidence FOR SRA at an early age.

middlechild

We had normal lives, that is why we don't have vivid memories like this. She remembers because of the trauma. I say yes, this has all the signs of early childhood SRA.

NowThatsInteresting

Remembering suppressed memories are precisely like this. Even if there is a 1% chance that she’s telling the truth we should examine it. And what exact benefit is she getting out of this? Outing her own family? Ruining her own name?

If there are financial gains then which ones?

derram

https://invidio.us/watch?v=dDTPxY0C0Dk :

Wage the Righteous War :Freemason SRA Survivor Karly Franz - YouTube


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