Haha anyone see the Wikipedia article on New Life Childrens Refuge under Laura Silsby - Gayler? Someone added that Alertsense keeps covering it up. ( pizzagate )

submitted by gamepwn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case

"Laura Silsby founded the New Life Children’s Refuge and led the expedition in Haiti. Though she was freed after serving her sentence in Haiti, she also faced legal problems in Idaho.[20][21] In early March 2010, her attorney in these cases filed a motion to withdraw as her counsel.[22] Another lawyer who represented Silsby in a child custody case also withdrew as her attorney.[23]

Silsby faced civil lawsuits for fraud, wrongful termination and unpaid wages mostly related to Personal Shopper,[20][21][24] an Internet company that she founded in 1999 with James Hammons. Silsby and Hammons worked together at Hewlett-Packard.[25] Silsby became part of MYSTATE USA an emergency notification company headed by Claudia Bitner in 2011. [26]MYSTATE USA changed its name to Alertsense[27] Alertsense has since started another company called Konexus because of bad press when its software was used to launch the only known live Nuclear Alert in Hawaii in 2018.[28] Silsby married and now goes by the name Laura Gayler or Laura Silsby Gayler[29] Silsby Galyer has worked for Alertsense for the last 8 years and still works there under Von Hansen and Blake Hansen [30]. " Alertsense edits this site frequently to remove any of the above information."

This is what we need to do! Keep putting truths in the Wikipedia pages! Everytime they cover it up add that a coverup has taken place!

Vindicator

Wikipedia pages get scrubbed all the time. Archive! Current page archive . A year ago .

Alertsense has since started another company called Konexus because of bad press when its software was used to launch the only known live Nuclear Alert in Hawaii in 2018

Whaaaaaat? Is this the one Q predicted on December 18, 2017 and later linked to a Trump tweet with a missing "i" misspelling on 12/22 ?

@srayzie , am I remembering the Q stuff right? Wasn't that in reference to Hawaii?

AlertSense was behind that!?

The Wikipedia page cites an unnamed, unlinked Hawaii Star Advertizer article as the source of that information. Could not find one mentioning the name of either company during that date rage using their search engine but here are all the results mentioning "missile" . Maybe someone else has time to dig through them.

I did find a sanitized PR Newswire mention of the name change.

This notice says the name change happened after a new CEO was brought on, and mentions AlertSense was started by a FEMA grant!

Someone's done a blog https://archive.fo/sr7TO saying the Hawaii Star Advertizer reporting on the missile incident is fraudulent.

Here's a WeeklyStandard piece https://archive.fo/KHwO1 that mentions AlertSense was partly to blame:

Rapoza was adamant that a simple human mistake caused the false alert. And it looked not just possible but easy to make the mistake in the screenshot the agency released, with the link for “Test Missile Alert” close to, and nearly indistinguishable from, the link for “Missile Alert.”

The Hawaiian agency later modified its story, probably in response to complaints from the software manufacturer—which the Hawaiian television station KHON2 has identified as an Idaho company named AlertSense. The Emergency Management Agency replaced its first screenshot with a second, showing a Windows-style drop-down menu instead of a 1990s-era set of hotlinks. And, the agency confessed, the employee also had to make a second bad choice, clicking “Yes” on a confirmation pop-up. While not admitting to be the manufacturer, AlertSense has given demonstrations of its software to KHON2 and The Verge in recent days, by way of suggesting that the Hawaiian employee had, in fact, to go through multiple menus and clicks to send out the false alert, beginning with choosing what the company called a “wrong template option.”

This ArsTechnica article https://archive.fo/kCZxG has a lot more information, including links to the official investigation reports.

How is it that Silsby's company turns up in THAT mess?

@Blacksmith21 @gamepwn @MolochHunter @argosciv

Also, I'm going to keep linking to this old post showing Silsby and her AlertSense and Haiti cronies are all from Hewlett-Packard.

argosciv

Someone added that Alertsense keeps covering it up.

Something screwy going on here...

Not that there's nothing suspicious RE: Silsby, but, I smell a manufactured crisis and possible attempt to discredit PG.

Silsby-Gayler and MYSTATEUSA, Inc./AlertSense

The information referenced has been removed twice, more than one year before the most current time(for a total of 3). Now, I hate gatekeeping on wiki too ( as I have recently expressed ), but the reasons given for the removals here, relate to sourcing issues (lack of adequate sources) and are not indicative of (a): regular efforts to censor OR (b): that AlertSense is directly responsible. That said, perhaps a "citation needed" edit would be more appropriate and less inflammatory.

However, the person who most recently re-added the info along with the claim that AlertSense is behind the removals, offers nothing to support that claim. Also, while they have included 'sources' this time, said sources don't actually link to corroborating information. They're basically just telling you to go google shit.

While the information may be true and sources may exist, the person(s) adding it to the wiki is/are clearly unwilling to source the claims properly - resulting in the removals.

Now, I've tried as best I can to verify the claims that Laura Gayner is Laura Silsby - there's enough out there to present the case that this is likely to be true, so why repeatedly botch adding the info to wiki?

Removals:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case&diff=prev&oldid=761881297

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case&diff=prev&oldid=765701825

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case&diff=next&oldid=850780354

Latest addition of info, with claim about AlertSense:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Life_Children%27s_Refuge_case&diff=next&oldid=856069219

Laura Silsby at MYSTATEUSA, Inc.: https://archive.is/2R36g

Norman Wade Galyer recorded as associated with Laura L. Silsby: https://archive.is/6rf0k

Laura L. Silsby, as linked in above, with email registered to personalshopperboston.com(Personal Shopper association with Silsby is sourced properly in wiki entry): https://archive.is/M3TE8

Record of marriage license application by Norman Gayler and Laura Silsby(Oct 1, 2015): https://archive.is/2Ow94

2016 snapshot showing that a Laura Gayner works/worked as VP of Marketing at AlertSense: https://archive.is/GvcwC

What's so fucking hard about that?

Pizzagate

Recognize anything in this removal?

https://archive.is/rjSpC#selection-229.181-229.335

I'm not in the slightest bit happy about the deletion reason, but with the above in mind, something stinks about the botched MYSTATEUS, Inc./AlertSense edits and the subsequent accusation being made about the removals.

Again, I've pretty much been able to verify that Silsby = Gayler = was/is involved with MYSTATEUSA, Inc. and AlertSense, but what exactly is so hard about coherently adding the information to the wiki entry, with sufficient sourcing(which does appear to exist)?

In summary, while it does appear that the claims being made (other than the claim that AlertSense is behind the "regular" deletion of the information) are mostly verifiable, I suspect that a certain someone is deliberately* causing a commotion which will inevitably have a negative blowback on pizzagate researchers.

*Alternatively, if my suspicions are correct, the person making these edits may be a bit... uh... how do I put this politely... perhaps they're not thinking enough about what they're doing... they may have good intentions, but are otherwise defeating their own cause.

@gamepwn @srayzie @Shizy @MolochHunter @kevdude

Vindicator

Glad you dug into this. I agree...something is a bit fishy, here.

gamepwn

Great research Vindicator! It very well could be the same Q talked about! I will do research into this.

Vindicator

Would've done more, but I'm in the middle of doing my f'g taxes. Grrrrrrrr

MolochHunter

wew. crazy degrees of separation

Vindicator

Yeah...like NO degrees of separation. !

mintmachine

I am not sure how that new dissenter thign works from Gab, can you add corrections on that as well?

carmencita

https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/18/16905512/hawaii-missile-software-false-alarm-emergency-alert

Here’s how Hawaii’s emergency alert design led to a false alarm

Officials soon released a timeline of events, saying the state’s software contained a menu option that allowed a live alert to be sent in place of a test, a problem that several people quickly categorized as a design failure. The state released an image that showed a list with options for test and live alerts next to each other. Officials later said the image did not accurately portray the system, and released what it characterized as a “representation” of the system, but said that it could not share an actual screenshot.

While the state has not named its software provider, evidence suggests it is an Idaho-based company called AlertSense, a FEMA-approved company that says it works with clients in states around the country. The audio version of the alert broadcast in Hawaii was posted on the company’s website. The first image released by Hawaii also appears similar to example software provided to The Verge by AlertSense. For instance, the word “templates” appears above the alert options in AlertSense’s software, and is barely visible in the first image issued by the state. (A local TV station in Hawaii independently came to the same conclusion.) The Verge’s review of the program suggests that functionally there is only a one-click difference between sending a test and a live alert.

AlertSense would not confirm whether it was the vendor of the software, but in an interview with The Verge, it provided a presentation that outlines how its system works. (The Hawaii Emergency Management Agency declined to comment.)

AlertSense CTO Randy Grohs explained that there are essentially two paths to send an alert using the system. In one, an alert is created from scratch. The user of the software fills in information for the alert, like where it’s being sent, what the message says, and crucially, whether it’s a test or live alert.

AlertSense describes the system as an eight-step process. If you select a template, some of those steps include scrolling through and checking auto-filled information, but even so, the company says, it requires more than one click to send an alert. In Idaho, the company points out, a news segment ran this week about AlertSense having safeguards to prevent what happened in Hawaii.

News Segment https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/how-idahos-emergency-alert-system-works/277-508611180

But effectively, when using a template, there are three clicks, whether a live message or test is sent. If the information in those templates isn’t double-checked, the versions would look essentially the same. The main difference is whether the user clicks the test template option or the real one. The company says it may now alter the final pop-up confirmation to be different for test and live alerts.

“If you don’t follow best practices, the difference between sending live and a demo can be configured to be a small difference,” Grohs says.

This system is Totally Irresponsible. I am not swift when it comes to getting this stuff, but even I know that.

The company says it may now alter the final pop-up confirmation to be different for test and live alerts.

They May? Ya Think? Also isn't Idaho where Silsby and that Church were located. The one she lied to about the Children she was going to bring them? She's still doing their Dirty Work.