sunajAeon

Christ- why haven't the police arrested these pedophiles with all this proof?

Vindicator

That would be something, wouldn't it. I think a lot of these Bishops hold diplomatic status, unfortunately. Shitty corrupt men have been using that ploy to dodge justice ever since diplomatic immunity was invented.

KillerKap

Doing Gods work with this

think-

Over a year ago in April 2018, QAnon put the Pope in a "kill box" and revealed "The [Pope] will be having a terrible May. Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT. Dark to LIGHT. TRUTH." Looks like that is turning out to be correct.

Didn't he mean .May 2018 though?

Vindicator

He never said 2018. Many of Q's predictions have been a year in advance.

sunajAeon

This whole Q phenomenon is a canard-about as useful as tits on a boar

think-

He never said 2018.

I won't comment on this... ;-)

fuspezza

In many instances Q has posted a year in advanced [1 Year Delta] but dont let that interfere with your Shillin. Dont give up. Your presence let's us know we are in the right track.

think-

LOL. If it's April, and you say 'the Pope will have a terrible May', it's surely meant to be the May of that year, otherwise it would be deceptive.

auralsects

Yeah who cares if the mod of v/pizzagate pushes blatant disinfo to accommodate his own childish hero-worship of a fat orange crypto-Jew - - who has already solved PG, btw, with a plan hatched decades ago.

You dumb old bitch 8===D - - ;-)

fuspezza

Not necessarily

think-

LOL

think-

This restriction does not mean that a pope cannot be guilty of heresy, since popes can and do make many public statements that are not infallible; many popes indeed never issue an infallible definition.

On a side note , the guy who wrote the dogma regarding the infallibility of the Pope in the 19th century wa-s involved in the sexual abuse of young nuns - they were abused by older nuns, and he participated in the abuse.

Vindicator

the guy who wrote the dogma

This is a complete misunderstanding of dogma, asserted by the heresy of Modernism. Dogma is not "written" by one person.

think-

what I meant is 'the guy who wrote the text that formally defined the infabillity' in 1870.

Vindicator

By "the text that formally defined infallibility in 1870" I assume you mean Pastor Aeturnus . One guy did not write that, however. It was produced by the First Vatican Council, the twentieth official gathering of all the bishops of the Church.

Infallibility was part of Church doctrine long before 1870. It stems directly from multiple Scriptures, but was discussed by Christian writers from the First Century, on -- even before the canon of Scripture was agreed upon by the bishops in councils of the late Fourth Century (Pope Athanasius was the first to cite all 27 New Testament books we recognize today in a single document in 327 . Discernment of the canon of Scripture in fact depended upon what later became known as the doctrine of infallibility.)

Wikipedia has a pretty good summary of the history :

On the basis of Mark 3:16, 9:2, Luke 24:34 and 1 Corinthians 15:5, the Catechism of the Catholic Church describes Peter as holding first place among the apostles. It speaks of Peter as the rock on which, because of Peter's faith, Christ said in Matthew 16:18 he would build his Church, which he declared would be victorious over the powers of death. In Luke 22:32, Jesus gave Peter the mission to keep his faith after every lapse and to strengthen his brothers in it. The Catechism of the Catholic Church sees the power of the keys that Jesus promised to Peter alone in Matthew 16:19 as signifying authority to govern the house of God, that is, the Church, an authority that Jesus after his resurrection confirmed for Peter by instructing him in John 21:15–17 to feed Christ's sheep.

(Note that the Catechism doesn't establish any dogma or doctrine -- it merely collects it all in one place, like an encyclopedia, explains where each teaching comes from, why, and how it connects to the "seamless garment" of the whole.)

Think-, which guy from Vatican I are you referring to? According to this review of the book , the predator in that convent was a woman.

think-

Thanks for the info. I will try to find the name in other book reviews. Yes, the predators were women, but the priest I have been thinking of participated (they forced young nuns to have sex with the main female predator and him).

think-

At the opening mass of the Synod on Youth in 2018, Pope Francis carried a staff in the form of a ‘stang’, an object used in satanic rituals.

That's amazing that they address it so openly!

and his failure to speak out against child sacrifice

You might want to clarify that you mean abortions, otherwise many people won't get what you mean, @Vindicator .

I'm pro-choice in the first weeks of pregnancy, and to me it doesn't equal 'child sacrifice'.

Vindicator

That's amazing that they address it so openly!

Not really. There is no one more pissed off about Church corruption than orthodox Catholics who are well-formed in Scripture, and the writings of the Saints and Doctors of the Church. This was the third formal condemnation of the Pope. Canonically, three are required before bishops can take the action they are requesting. This "Pope" is going down, along with the evil deviants who put him in power. Their crimes have created the means to pry them out of power.

think-

How many bishops and cardinals will it take to bring him down - what if he refuses to step down, since he has the backing of other bishops and cardinals.

Vindicator

It will only take a few exposing the crimes of these men the way this letter does to turn the Faithful against them. Once it's clear Francis is unrepentant, this will become inevitable. The mainstream secular and Catholic media have been attacking those who have attempted to do so prior to now, but their attempts to control the narrative will fail, thanks to places like Church Militant, and social media.

think-

Yes - but what do you think will happen - could this bring a schisma of the Church, since a considerable number of bishops and cardinals will back Francis.

Vindicator

Depends what you mean by schism. There is already a schism between faithful Catholics and those teaching heresy...that's what heresy is . Any bishop or cardinal who upholds heresy automatically severs himself from the Church. What the theologians are requesting is formal acknowledgement of a fact that already exists, as demonstrated by the twenty pages of evidence they have cited in the letter.

think-

I meant a formal schisma. Otherwise the Pope and those who are loyal to him could just carry on as usual, no?

Vindicator

From what I've been reading today, it appears that historically, major times of heresy result in the convening of an ecumenical council, which includes lay experts as well as clergy, and can speak with the full authority of the Church to declare his teachings anathema. That is probably what would happen. During the Third and Fourth centuries (after the Church became the official religion of the Roman Empire), the politically popular Arian heresy infected almost the entire worldwide Church. The majority of bishops spread its false teachings and those who stood up against it were persecuted by both secular and religious authorities. But, because Trinitarian doctrine was sound and in accord with both Scripture and the traditional teachings of the Church, those who stood fast eventually prevailed.

think-

From what I've been reading today, it appears that historically, major times of heresy result in the convening of an ecumenical council, which includes lay experts as well as clergy, and can speak with the full authority of the Church to declare his teachings anathema. That is probably what would happen.

Interesting.

think-

All these actions were public knowledge in 2010. Cardinal Danneels stood at the side of Pope Francis on the balcony of St.Peter's when the Pope made his first public appearance after his election. Pope Francis named him as a special delegate to the 2015 Synod on the Family.

smh in disbelief

Heathcliff

19? Wasn't it 20 last week? They get one already?

MikePence_Official

Within 3 generations of Jewish globalism they have already managed to destroy Catholicism. I will never be going back to a catholic church and I encourage all of you to find a good Christian Church in your area. One that doesn't support faggot kid fuckers.

Korinthian

I think Francis is going to be the one to finally put to rest the concept of papal infallibility.

Even if he's decried as a false pope, he's going to be a black mark on catholicism for years. Their very own mark of cain.

Swamperman

Do we have any idea what the previous Pope, Benedict, thinks of Francis?

auralsects

Over a year ago in April 2018, QAnon put the Pope in a "kill box" and revealed "The [Pope] will be having a terrible May. Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT. Dark to LIGHT. TRUTH." Looks like that is turning out to be correct.

LMFAO HOLY SHIT

Are_we__sure

Over a year ago in April 2018, QAnon put the Pope in a "kill box" and revealed "The [Pope] will be having a terrible May. Those who backed him will be pushed into the LIGHT. Dark to LIGHT. TRUTH." Looks like that is turning out to be correct.

LOLOLOLOL

Vindicator

Absolutely. Three were required (in accordance with Scripture) to enable the canonical process against the Pope to proceed.

Are_we__sure

What canonical process against the pope? The letter doesn't call for any.

If they actually wanted a canonical process against the pope to proceed, why did they fail so spectacularly to actually list anything that would meet the canonical definition of heresy? Vestiments and appointments won't do it. The other issues don't meet the obstinacy required for heresy because Francis (and the rest of the Church) are saying and Amoris laetitia flows from or is congruent with Church teaching.

If they genuinely believe appointments are canonical crimes, why are they only going after Francis? One of their charges goes back to 1998. Why did they not go after John Paul II or Benedict for promoting the same men? Some of their arguments seem to be an argument with Vatican II.

I wonder what would have made of this Pope John II receiving two radical and pro abortion italian politicans.

http://www.rainews.it/dl/img/2016/03/0x768_1458148151508.Bonino_Pannellapapa.jpg.jpg

HenryCabotLodge

The Poop I mean Pope is Satan's instrument here on earth.

3141592653

Great post

Vindicator

I read all the articles about this, and none of them actually discussed the detailed content. It was weird. So, I decided to do it myself. :-)