Crensch

Needs a sourced link, not just an image.

24hrs from this comment to fix.

3141592653

Sorry I was MIA. Link added

YogSoggoth

Did Tom take picture, or Tom receive picture?

3141592653

I assume he took it. He posted it.

YogSoggoth

I do too, but computer forensic analysis is the specialty of other people. I am more of the smashy chokey hurty primate type. I am smart enough to type though. Yeah!

3141592653

Lol

think-

Of course you can also view the picture on his official Instagram. Its the second most recently posted image.

would you maybe consider linking his Instagram, @3141592653 - thanks!

(You'd need a link in your OP anyway, so that the post adheres to rule 2. ;-) ).

3141592653

Thanks. I'm not sure why I hesitated to do so at first. Link added.

think-

Thank you! Much appreciated!

@Vindicator @EricKaliberhall - please see parent. .You can remove the edit flair.

Vindicator

Done

think-

Thanks!

3141592653

Thank You

think-

Kindly welcome.

ShaneE11183386

I'm fairly certain kappy was kidnapped and being tortured at a DUMB

At one point in the video kappy said he did something DUMB DUMB DUMB

There is a huge military base right there

3141592653

Could be. I've heard this theory. Do you know how close it is?

ShaneE11183386

Within 10 km

4 downvotes sheesh

3141592653

Thanks. Yup, the downvoats say so much

truthdemon

Someone didnt like ur comment one bit...u could be on to something..thats why In the uncropped photo...u see 3 spots of discolouration around the bottom of the picture.. Look closer at one spot..and it indicates use of water.. The same discolouration in soil is seen around the cap.. Maybe water drops were used to draw the capital P..and photo taken after it dried a bit.. U see boot marks around the cap... Maybe the person had his right boot tonget close to the cap..with his left knee planted on the ground...to get close to the cap..and draw the P With water..

Was kappy waterboarded in the DUMB ..and then run over... The report said Kappy was killed by a car....what r the chances of someone falling of a bridgr in what seems like an area with not much traffic ..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it... So the report vouhes for body fractures.. Where would those fractures come from..?

CatsControlTheEU

Correct - also right outside the Navajo nation - native reservations are absolutely notorious for human trafficking.

darkknight111

I see it now. I agree, that IS a capital P.

septimasexta

Is there proof that Kappy actually died? Coroner report? Funeral? Parents?

truthdemon

Someone didnt like ur comment one bit...u could be on to something..thats why In the uncropped photo...u see 3 spots of discolouration around the bottom of the picture.. Look closer at one spot..and it indicates use of water.. The same discolouration in soil is seen around the cap.. Maybe water drops were used to draw the capital P..and photo taken after it dried a bit.. U see boot marks around the cap... Maybe the person had his right boot tonget close to the cap..with his left knee planted on the ground...to get close to the cap..and draw the P With water..

Was kappy waterboarded in the DUMB ..and then run over... The report said Kappy was killed by a car....what r the chances of someone falling of a bridgr in what seems like an area with not much traffic in the early hours of the day..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it... So the report vouhes for body fractures.. Where would those fractures come from..?

CatsControlTheEU

Couple news articles - haven't seen a coroner report or anything like that just sherrif's blotter stuff: "The man who was killed in Bellemont on Interstate-40 Monday morning has been identified. DPS says troopers were called to milepost 185 at Transwestern Road at around 7:26 a.m. after a man jumped from the bridge over the interstate and was hit by a passing car. The person has been identified as 42-year-old Issac Kappy of Albuquerque" - if interested you can see my post on this thread along with random guesses, but I did manage to find the exact location in Google maps and also a video (from a 50 year old movie no less) of the same location.

Vindicator

The pic with the bottle cap is a different photo than the roadkill one with the glove. The glove photo does not show the elbow shadow separated from the body like the bottle cap image does. Two different pics.

We need to document where they originated.

@darkknight @paulf @srayzie @Sandhog

3141592653

How odd that there are those two differing images...

pizza-party-pooper-2

It also has a boot print sinking the cap down into the dirt too.

shewhomustbeobeyed

i do not see a water bottle cap or any rust. I do see what looks like a rock with what could be interpreted as a 'P'.

The rock looks like it has moisture on it from possibly being kicked over, this would also explain the darker soil around the area.

If you need me to DM you some proof that I know more than the average person on this subject, I will.

3141592653

Even though though I posted this, I myself am not convinced absolutely that its a letter P

Vindicator

Sure, I'd love to hear more the subject.

IMO, the rock or cap is too perfectly symmetrical to be a rock. I don't see any rust, either. The "P" looks like it has serifs too me. It looks coated in dust. Someone with good Photoshop skills could probably enhance the contrast to draw out finer detail.

3141592653

This is great. Yeah, I've been starting to think its just a rock

shewhomustbeobeyed

I saw no sharp edges like it was metal or ridges like a plastic cap. All I see is a rock.

But that doesn't change the fact that TH is creepy AF.

3141592653

Agreed

think-

Agree with you.

Vindicator

I see your point, LOL. :-)

On closeup, the "cap" definitely could be a rock -- though it's still pretty symmetrical for a desert rock, IMO. Usually rocks that round and flat are found in riverbeds.

I own this rock

This is why I love you, SWMBO. I own a couple of rocks, too. One I've had since I found it as a kid. It has a hole eroded deeply into it by water that was just the right size to stick a candle in. Sits crooked and makes a huge mess, but cool, anyway.

My sister found a rock on a camping trip in Utah, which turned out to be an Allosaurus bone. She taught herself lapidary, crosscut it, and made me a belt buckle . Damn thing is 64,000,000 years old. One of the best gifts I've ever received.

shewhomustbeobeyed

That belt buckle is beautiful. Your sister has skills.

Vindicator

She does indeed. She isn't doing that anymore, at least for now. She currently has a heard of goats and is making soap. :-) I got a whole box of it for Christmas.

shewhomustbeobeyed

I've been lobbying for pygmy goats, so far no luck.

3141592653

Awesome

shewhomustbeobeyed

It won't be until I get my goats, dammit.

3141592653

I hope you get them soon

shewhomustbeobeyed

I have to head out now for a bit.

I'll DM you some pics of a few pretty rocks i own, later tonight.

truthdemon

Someone didnt like ur comment one bit...u could be on to something..thats why In the uncropped photo...u see 3 spots of discolouration around the bottom of the picture.. Look closer at one spot..and it indicates use of water.. The same discolouration in soil is seen around the cap.. Maybe water drops were used to draw the capital P..and photo taken after it dried a bit.. U see boot marks around the cap... Maybe the person had his right boot tonget close to the cap..with his left knee planted on the ground...to get close to the cap..and draw the P With water..

Was kappy waterboarded in the DUMB ..and then run over... The report said Kappy was killed by a car....what r the chances of someone falling of a bridgr in what seems like an area with not much traffic in the early hours of the day..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it... So the report vouhes for body fractures.. Where would those fractures come from..?

CatsControlTheEU

Am I the only one who finds it somewhat interesting that the sediment directly around the cap is of a significantly different color than any other sediment in the rest of the pic? The other pic that he took around the same location doesn't show any significant darkened/red like sediment like that. Route 66 is obviously a long road but it does cut through the Socal deserts and near the undergrad I went to, same style of desert but darker sediment like that is usually what you would see after digging in the ground for a foot or more or around large carved out rockfaces. It's probably nothing but that's my 2 cents. Also, his insta is beyond weird, I mean people take pictures of random stuff all the time - but he has a full on obsession.

3141592653

Thanks for all the info. He was near, but not actually ON, tribal land, right?

CatsControlTheEU

Thanks for all the info. He was near, but not actually ON, tribal land, right?

Correct, the tribal border if you go by road is 16 miles. Not much in between the town and the border. If he had been reported as dead on tribal land then the case would go to them.

Only other interesting thing in Bellemont is whatever this military base is . Looks like it's for training but it's awfully large for the location. I mean really it's huge, it's practically the largest thing for hundreds of miles. It's actually bigger than Flagstaff.

3141592653

Is Belmont where he actually (allegedly) died?

CatsControlTheEU

Yes, supposedly jumped off of the only overpass in town and got hit by a passing truck. That's the official statement from the police.

3141592653

Thanks

Vindicator

Interesting thoughts! Great links, too.

To me it kinda looked like a waterbottle cap, and the dark spots around it looked like a bit of water that might dribble out of an almost empty bottle. Are there any water bottles that have a P on the cap?

3141592653

Good question. I haven't been able to find anything.

truthdemon

Someone didnt like ur comment one bit...u could be on to something..thats why In the uncropped photo...u see 3 spots of discolouration around the bottom of the picture.. Look closer at one spot..and it indicates use of water.. The same discolouration in soil is seen around the cap.. Maybe water drops were used to draw the capital P..and photo taken after it dried a bit.. U see boot marks around the cap... Maybe the person had his right boot tonget close to the cap..with his left knee planted on the ground...to get close to the cap..and draw the P With water..

Was kappy waterboarded in the DUMB ..and then run over... The report said Kappy was killed by a car....what r the chances of someone falling of a bridgr in what seems like an area with not much traffic in the early hours of the day..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it... So the report vouhes for body fractures.. Where would those fractures come from..?

CatsControlTheEU

and it indicates use of water

that's why you find that kind of colored soil when you dig deeper into the ground, it's where the dirt holds the moisture in as opposed to the top soil that gets dried out by the air and sun.

area with not much traffic in the early hours of the day..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it...

Exactly, I've driven cross country and on route 66 itself many times, that area has NOTHING in it, just empty space and the occasional car - if there was something on the road you would see it immediately. Also that overpass isn't even that high, it barely makes clearance for a semi.

srayzie

His Instagram is Creepy AF

think-

Agree. That's what made me believe that is he is one of them, although I always liked him as an actor.

paulf

It's an old rusted bottle cap in the shadow of his elbow. The P is very visible. I agree.

High-res image here .

3141592653

Thx for image

truthdemon

Someone didnt like ur comment one bit...u could be on to something..thats why In the uncropped photo...u see 3 spots of discolouration around the bottom of the picture.. Look closer at one spot..and it indicates use of water.. The same discolouration in soil is seen around the cap.. Maybe water drops were used to draw the capital P..and photo taken after it dried a bit.. U see boot marks around the cap... Maybe the person had his right boot tonget close to the cap..with his left knee planted on the ground...to get close to the cap..and draw the P With water..

Was kappy waterboarded in the DUMB ..and then run over... The report said Kappy was killed by a car....what r the chances of someone falling of a bridgr in what seems like an area with not much traffic in the early hours of the day..and then get run over by a car...at the same instance... If i saw a dead body in thr road..i would stop..not run over it... So the report vouhes for body fractures.. Where would those fractures come from..?

Vindicator

Where did this image come from? It is a different picture than the one on Instagram. The elbow shadow is separated from the body.

paulf

I made it by cropping the original full image . That image from Instagram you posted is just a preview of the full image which has a 1152x2048 dimension. I always click through to see if there's a full sized image in these cases from a PC, not a mobile. Sometimes yeah, what you see is what you get but every so often there's a nice high quality original available to save, as is the case here.

Vindicator

Awesome. Thanks for the explanation. I've never logged into Instagram from my PC, only phone, so I didn't know they were different.

every so often there's a nice high quality original available to save, as is the case here.

Now I wonder why that would be? Does Hanks always post high res images of his shitty Insta pics? How does the size of the file compare to a typical high res photo of the same size? Any chance of extra embedded data? Hmmmmm...

paulf

I've just checked the first few dozen of his Instagram and there are now no photos with a hires version available to download. That's been changed in the past couple of days.

3141592653

Hmmm...very interesting.

Vindicator

Interesting. Why am I not surprised.

darkknight111

Where is the print? That can guide my search.

3141592653

Thanks