https://politicalwire.com/2019/08/14/autopsy-found-broken-bones-in-epsteins-neck/
“An autopsy found that financier Jeffrey Epstein sustained multiple breaks in his neck bones, according to two people familiar with the findings, deepening the mystery about the circumstances around his death,” the Washington Post reports.
“Among the bones broken in Epstein’s neck was the hyoid bone, which in men is near the Adam’s apple. Such breaks can occur in those who hang themselves, particularly if they are older… But they are more common in victims of homicide by strangulation.”
“The details add to the bizarre circumstances surrounding Epstein’s death, which have launched a wave of questions and conspiracy theories about how he could have died in federal custody. Even President Trump has egged on speculation, without evidence, that Epstein — whose alleged victims say they were pushed to have sex with his powerful and celebrity friends — might have been killed to keep him from spilling the secrets of others.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyoid_bone_fracture
The hyoid bone fracture is a very rare fracture of the hyoid bone, accounting for 0.002% of all fractures in humans. It is commonly associated with strangulation and rarely occurs in isolation. The fracture may be associated with gunshot injury, car accidents, or induced vomiting. In 50% of strangulations and 27% of hangings, hyoid fractures occur.
Relevant to pizzagate due to .......duh.
▼ fogdryer
I don’t believe he’s dead. Maybe he’s in Israel or on rothschilds island. Idk
▼ YogSoggoth
Someone posted this. Then the link dissapeared. Here is the post by anan"here’s a fun fact to ponder — especially for those who derive meanings from numbers and dates. The chosen date of Epstein’s death (Aug. 10) is Tisha B’Av, which translates this year to the 10th/11th of August [Av 10-11] on Jewish Gregorian calendar. It’s the annual Jewish day of mourning, or shoah, and is considered the “saddest day” of the year, a day that is “destined for tragedy."
▼ hitekhobo
Notice the narrative is “suicide or murder” instead of “dead or alive”
Epstein is alive 🚨
▼ American-Patriot
I won't believe a thing until I see undeniable photos of his death.
▼ ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS
Copy/Pasting my below comment from another EpsteinPG thread as no one here has mentioned 'his' cell mate TARTAGLIONE. WHILE I HAVE TROUBLE BELIEVING THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN IS DEAD (or was ever even incarcerated) after the obvious imposter body, his cell mate might play into the new story of strangulation, and therefore needs some attention. It would be easy to paint this on 3 crooked 'cops' and make the story go away. Thoughts?
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I SMELL A RAT. His cell mate NICHOLAS TARTAGLIONE that was allegedly moved before his 'death' was a convicted murderer, skinhead, and crooked NYPD officer! NYPD and the prison system (unconfirmed) use Junkermanns CARBYNE AI for their camera system. Hence the malfunction.
Was NICHOLAS TARTAGLIONE there to protect, help break out, or kill E? Why risk a cellmate, especially one who could kill you with his bare hands unless he was a trusted blue boy. Guards/cops smuggling in this guys roids and blow might know. Either way NYPD is suspect as the control factor here.
CELLMATE: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/07/27/06/16561434-0-image-a-32_1564205468791.jpgJPG
SINGLE CELL: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/08/10/20/17135576-7344789-While_Epstein_was_in_the_SHU_at_the_time_of_his_reported_first_s-m-102_1565464402237.jpgJPG
ARTICLE: https://globintel.com/usa/nicholas-tartaglione-wiki/
▼ ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS
Update:
▼ think-
:-P
▼ Vindicator
The El Chapo thing pegged my bullshit meter as well. That guy escaped from several places, as I recall.
▼ think-
Yep.
▼ maurice1
You can read articles over the past 2-3 years about the MCC. It's always been horrid and the top DoJ people know this. None of the flaws there went under the radar.
▼ think-
Yes. And still, nobody was killed there in the past decades, from what I know, or committed suicide, or faked their murder or suicide.
▼ maurice1
https://gothamist.com/2018/06/19/mcc_jail_human_rights_torture.php
The deaths were never really publicly reported or tracked before 2015. https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=tp&tid=19
I do think everything with Epstein smells funny though. But deaths, even from suicide have happened there. They go unreported because, who really cares? It's not media headlines to make money, when it's some nobody homie, killing themselves because they've spent 2 years waiting on a trial for simple possession or some other petty drivel charges.
▼ maurice1
Cops are trained to view the public as cockroaches.
https://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-recruits-quit-program-call-out-dept-training-become-warriors-against-the-public/
And in the MCC BOP, you'll see old stories talking about untrained employees doubling as security officers.
Police are not required to protect you, judges have ruled on this, as well.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-police-do-not-have-a-constitutional-duty-to-protect.html
These privatized federal prisons receive about 42k a year, per inmate to house them. And you'll find many cases, this is how these places are ran.
Over-worked, under paid guards, tend to find many ways to abuse inmates. Endless stories of guards running illegal contraband into the facilities as well, via criminals and the people they know on the outside.
▼ maurice1
I honestly wonder if they chose to put him in the MCC, planning all of this shit out in advance. So far, it has smelled like a false flag operation all along and some MSM outlets are pushing red flag las, which target "conspiracy theorists", which ties into this.
In-Q-Tel, a.k.a. "Qanon" went dark when 8chan went down and that too plays into censoring sites such as this one.
▼ think-
I think they opted for presenting it as a possible murder, since so many people think that Epstein didn't die, but that they replaced him with a body double.
It is so obvious that the ears and the nose of the person that was allegedly taken to hospital were different from Epstein's.
Kudos to the public, who didn't buy the suicide story.
I think they just put an actor, who didn't die either, on a gurney, and took some pics.
▼ Vindicator
That would explain the folded hands over his chest.
▼ think-
How long will it take before the rigor mortis will set in when someone died - do you know - I know that depends on stuff like temperatures etc. though.
▼ Vindicator
According to Wikipedia. Warm temps speed it up, cold make it last longer.
▼ think-
Thanks .
▼ think-
Yes. Someone pointed out that the scene couldn't have been a hospital entrance, but was a garage, but not a
hospital's garage, due to some plates on the wall.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the link anymore. They said that the head on the pics was too big in comparison to the body.
TL;DR - I don'tbelieve for a minute that he died. Espcecially considering how the MSM changed their talking points.
Also, the coroner seems to have a history of being involved in dubious stuff.
They said that guards didn't check on Epstein for three hours, and that he was dead for about an hour when they found him. But someone who hanged himself, and was in the noose for an hour would have looked totally different - with a really swollen purple face. And never forget the ears and the nose look different.
▼ Vindicator
Yeah, it was a fire station apparatus bay -- air compressor hose on the wall, back boards stretchers hanging next to them, lots of dirt smudges.
▼ think-
Strange articles in the MSM today. Showing empathy for the American public believing in conspiracy theories surrounding
Epstein's death.
Because 'conspiracy theories might contain a bit of truth'.
Huh? WTF?
Last time I checked (two weeks ago) we were a bunch of loonies, and the FBI tried hard to convince everybody we were potential terrorists.
▼ maurice1
IKR? We're the nut-jobs for questioning the narratives people are paid to push.
▼ think-
I think they realized that the public just doesn't buy the 'obviously that was suicide' narrative the NYT and others pushed even before the coroner issued her first statement .
So they decided to turn this into a murder mystery. To cover up that they took him out of prison. He should be in Tel Aviv by now, having cosmetic surgery. I think the 4chan post was legit.
@gamepwn
▼ On_the_Level
What was the 4chan post
I have been theorising that he broke loose to meet a cosmetic surgeon and hightail it into Israel since news of his "death"
▼ Clairvoyance
Not surprising I thought we all deduced he was killed anyways.
▼ DeathToMasonsASAP
Yeah right. He was never in jail. They want you to move on and not worry about him anymore.
▼ Yuke
27% of hangings....whereby someone actually hangs themselves from a height, like a tree, yeah. Not in a room with nothing to hang yourself from. He was killed, we all know it.
▼ DeathToMasonsASAP
He was never in jail. He is free to do as he pleases while shmucks think he no longer exist.
▼ Nosferatjew
"Epstein"
▼ Piscina
When even the MSM starts saying that it was strangulation, you know Epstein didn't kill himself.
▼ plancktonne
With the Death / Suicide / Arkancide / Escape of Epstein being as momentous an event as the assassination of JFK, affecting who knows how many of the world's elites, moguls, royals and super-multi-billionaires we would expect the involvement of the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Illuminati and Masons, who like to leave symbols in plain sight to taunt the peasantry. In the case of JFK the 3rd Degree of Freemasonry tells the legend of three “unworthy craftsman”—Jubela, Jubelo and Jubelum—who murdered Hiram Abiff, the architect of Solomon’s Temple. Similarly, three tramps were arrested in Dealey Plaza, then afterwards released. One of the tramps was later identified as E. Howard Hunt. So if the two sleeping guards represent two of the three "unworthy craftsmen" who is the third? -- Another interesting piece at medium (.) com/@HeapingHelping (/) who-are-the-royal-order-of-jesters-55ffe6f6acea -- "Who Are The Royal Order of Jesters? Uncovering a Police-Driven, International Sex Trafficking Ring that Actually Happened."
▼ plancktonne
Further: "Hiram was allegedly attacked, while exiting the South gate of the temple by Jubela. It is there that Hiram received a wound to the throat. If Jubela planned to make Hiram reveal the secret Master’s password, would he have stabbed Hiram in the throat." and "Of all the professions the law enforcement and intelligence community have the highest percentage of members who are Freemasons. This also is no co-incidence as Freemasonry intentionally seeks out new recruits who it finds the most useful."
▼ WalnutSauceGoat
No wonder the Medical Examiner was "waiting for more information". You see broken bones and ask "how tall is that bunk bed again and what are the bed sheets made of?"
▼ maurice1
Yeah, I thought that was strange. An autopsy being done so quickly, then saying the examiner is "waiting for more information".
Like, waiting to be told what to tell the media by his superiors?
▼ pepe16
AHHHHHHH
▼ shewhomustbeobeyed
politicalwire - https://archive.is/QfNZT
wiki - https://archive.is/hYsqD
▼ carmencita
Each day it gets more obvious as to What Really Happened. Anyone thinks he offed himself well is an Airhead. Sorry.
▼ Sitnikoff
Don't apologize for stating the obvious.
▼ carmencita
So right.
▼ Roughpatch
What a bunch of Trump/Barr hating comments.
▼ think-
LOL - guess who is in charge of the Federal Bureauf of Prisons.......
.....surprise!!! It's the DOJ!! Headed by a man who worked for the law firm that represented Epstein during his Florida trial.
And who nevertheless refused to recuse himself from the case.
Barr needs to resign. ASAP.
BarrCoverup
▼ Roughpatch
Sources for that?
▼ Crackrocknigga
Yeah. Trump did his best to protect Epstein, had him in a secure classified high security location with secret service gaurds watching him around the clock. I'm so glad we have a president that hasn't been to the island 3 times and has a chabad mossad son in law
▼ think-
Trump didn't got to Epstein's island, there is no proof for that. Your other points are correct though.
▼ Roughpatch
Three times huh? Prove that..I want proof of everything you just stated since you're so desperate to turn people away from supporting the President. Present your case. C'mon be transparent.
▼ Roughpatch
What other bones were broken?
▼ sore_ass_losers
Excellent question!
"Multiple breaks in his neck bones ", who writes this stuff anyway? Aside from the hyoid the only bones in the neck would be the spinal column. So 'multiple spinal fractures'?
▼ Roughpatch
Gets a two finger throat jab and a twisted neck. Attacker ties sheet around neck and leaves.
▼ drakesdoom2
You aren't breaking that by hanging yourself on a bed. That needs a drop.
▼ Muh-Shugana
I still don't believe he's dead. they can make all sorts of shit up, why not a coroners report too?
▼ Oh_Well_ian
It's been one silly story after another..
▼ bluedeath
The whole thing is ludicrous. It was barely a 3 foot drop covered by impediments like the mattress sticking out etc that requires you to somehow subvert your involuntary survival instincts completely for it to come close to doing anything. Even with his legs cut off I don't see this doing much.
▼ NinaSparrow
Yep & according to previous photos of his cell & testimony from previous inmates, there are no bunk beds. + the sheets are made of PAPER!
▼ bluedeath
Next we will get actual video of the murder and they will be like "Cellmate Exercise Program ... nothing to see here"
▼ NinaSparrow
Lol!! No kidding. It's amazing to me how blatant they are becoming. I'd be such a nervous wreck I'd have 15 heart attacks at once. They're serial psychopaths & murderers.
When the Clinton's die, I'd love for their brains to be studied by science.
▼ CantBuySkills
Yeah, again. He was killed, but aren't prison garments pretty strong?
▼ NinaSparrow
True. U mean.. did he use his pants?
▼ CantBuySkills
I guess what I'm saying is that if I was going to create a bull shit narrative, I would make sure to do some research first about the item I'm claiming they used to kill themselves. They should have said he used his pants... that would be a bit more believable... it's all bull shit anyway, I'm just sayin'
▼ NinaSparrow
I gotcha! Yea no freakin kidding. Excellent point.
You know, one would THINK the people behind this murder would have come up with a better bullshit story.
At the very least, for everyones story to be somewhat straight & made it a teeny tiny bit more "believable", but this is a totally ridiculous shit show!
I mean, these "elites" have lots of money, & there are those super "James Bond style poisons" they could've used to make it look like a "heart attack", u know, those poisons that are virtually undetectable in toxicology tests after a short time?
What a sloppy and embarrassingly obvious hit job this was.
This just screams panic & desperation!
"Get rid of this S.O.B. NOW! IDC how its done, just get it done!"
They say he was considering giving up some names. So it's like they were literally shitting all over themselves. And in Hillarys case, probably more than she normally does. LOL.
Damn.
▼ CantBuySkills
As ludicrous as it seems, when someone wants to finish it, they will. My sister killed herself by hanging herself from her bedroom door knob with a tie. The question I kept asking myself is: Why didn't she just stand up? And the only answer I have is that whatever demons she was dealing with were powerful enough to not let her save herself.
Do I think Epstein killed himself? Absolutely not. But it is feasible to do it that way... although your neck won't be broke at all. Just sayin'.
▼ 4freedomsring
Sorry for your loss. 🙏🏻
▼ eucalyptus_spearmint
Finally, a smart one. Yes it is possible he killed himself. Yes it is possible he's been spirited away. I think he is dead by foul play.
▼ CantBuySkills
Agreed... the whole spirited away thing doesn't seem as legit as them just killing him. Although I will say the picture of him on a gerney is odd. I was under the impression they fully covered the body and face no matter what the cause of death was.
▼ Vindicator
Sorry to hear that. :-(
▼ CantBuySkills
Thank you
▼ bluedeath
Evidence of Murder has been found
▼ CantBuySkills
I know, I read the article. I firmly believe he was killed, but I was just letting you know that it is possible for someone to have given up so much on life that they just lay there and let themselves die.
▼ think-
Uh huh...
▼ bluedeath
Yeah we are all shocked here.
▼ Ghost777
Sorry for your loss buddy.
▼ Jewed
Or a garrote.
▼ YogSoggoth
Soft garrote, with strong hands? Got to go to the Medical examiner soon you know?