SandHog 2019-09-04T18:33:11

Where is the connection to Pizzagate? Rumors about Dan Schneider have been swirling for years. Here is a forum post about him from 6 months before this kid mentioned him in a video. Also Ariana Grande is 26 and that kid is/was 20. So the ages don't match up in regards to him dating her no matter how you slice it and they lived in different states. Plus it seems this kid's whole schtick was being an edgy youtube shitlord.

I still haven't made up my mind on this whole spectacle. Whether Dillon is dead or alive, his "death" can be used to bring more attention to Dan Schneider's pedo proclivity

Meh, I'd wager most people have never heard of him. Shame to see a kid pass away that young, though.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T18:41:37

https://searchvoat.co/?q=dan+schneider&sub=pizzagate&s=pizzagate&l=true

Rumors about Dan Schneider have been swirling for years. Here is a forum post about him from 6 months before this kid mentioned him in a video. Also Ariana Grande is 26 and that kid is/was 20. So the ages don't match up in regards to him dating her no matter how you slice it and they lived in different states. Plus it seems this kid's whole schtick was being an edgy youtube shitlord.

Totally agree, "Dillon the Hacker" was a comedian. His Satire verged too close to reality for comfort. Jamie Dlux recently used him as support for Pedowood allegations.

Comedians are often threats to the system as they subvert corruption with truth and analogy

Re Relevance: Dan Schneider is an Elite Child Abuser who appears to be connected to a Hollywood Pedo Culture.

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SandHog 2019-09-04T18:52:34

Jamie Dlux recently used him as support for Pedowood allegations.

I like Jamie but using this kid as supporting evidence is pretty weak. All he did was repeat rumors that had already been going around.

Re Relevance: Dan Schneider is an Elite Child Abuser who appears to be connected to a Hollywood Pedo Culture.

Right. Four years ago in one video. Unless there is more to it I am failing to see the significance of this kid dying unless you are suggesting that his death is somehow related to him calling Dan Schneider a pedophile?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T18:56:34

I am suggesting either the death is related, or if it's a hoax, the rumor of death is related

Schneider was spotted a month ago I LA dining with Zoey 101 cast/rumors of a new show. I could see this being a stunt to take him back down.

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SandHog 2019-09-04T19:13:47

That makes no sense though if the Schneider video was a one-off and he never broached the topic again. That was four years ago.

Seems like a giant reach to me.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T20:28:47

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3407984/20430525

read this comment thread. Dillon was targeting bronies, Hollywood pedos, cuckold fetishists, and lots of other groups implicated in pizzagate.

It might be a reach. might not.

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SandHog 2019-09-04T20:33:21

Ah, ok so there was more than just the one thing about Schneider. Was there any cause of death listed? Knowing that it would not surprise me if the furfag pedos tried to destroy his life and he ended up killing himself. It wouldn't be the first time.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T20:45:10

none yet. new article today I edited into the submission confirms the death reports

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SandHog 2019-09-04T20:59:06

From that article it looks like the obituary you posted is a different person (Griffin Alexander Klaus).

According to Union Journalism, Dillon The Hacker (real name: Dillon Henderson) has punked his audience with rumors of his demise in the past. Until PewDiePie talked about Dillon The Hacker's death, many of Dillon's fans thought that his absence from YouTube was just another example of them getting punked.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T21:01:40

Griffin Alexander Klaus is his real name. "Dillon the Hacker" is a stage name. did you read the MLP copy/paste of his family history?

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SandHog 2019-09-04T21:11:50

Why is he listed as Dillon Prescott Henderson literally everywhere else then?

Eh, nevermind. I really don't care much. It's either a promo stunt or he actually died somehow. Either way it doesn't seem to have much to do with pizzagate at all.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T21:17:10

Did you read the articles?

His parents have asked media outlets not to use his real name

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SandHog 2019-09-04T21:25:37

I've seen enough to convince myself not to waste any more time on it.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T21:31:18

Then no?

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SandHog 2019-09-04T21:32:15

I've seen enough to convince myself not to waste any more time on it.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T21:33:28

Yes or no?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T22:31:22

https://pasteguru.com/8663

MESSAGE TO DILLON THE HACKER: You may be able to fool others with your acts of using a fake name people are obviously dumb to think your real name is Dillon Henderson. When it's clearly not your faggotry ends right NOW.. You should have expected #butthurt lmao.. you h4ck3d a good Youtubers account for fame? Well then your fame will now come to a end with a real 'DoX' with proof as well for others who are misunderstood to who you really are. So I hope you enjoy this pastebin post as much as I did making it Publicly for others to view :)

First off his real name is not 'Dillon Henderson' those of you who thought that and are DoX'ing him under that name is clearly a skid.

The kid name is Griffin Alexander Klaus, mother is Kayla a Klaus you may also add her on Facebook to discuss if that is her son which she also confirmed. You can view her 'about me' then go to family and see that Dylan Klaus is under neath 'son' part but he deactived the Facebook that i listed below but I saved all the pictures of him that was on his Facebook before he deleted his account which are above.

Interesting @shewhomustbeobeyed he was first doxxed in 2014. same year he made the schneider vid.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T00:45:47

I am only familiar with the schneider video. Do you know if he was targeting any other celebs?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T01:45:48

https://archive.org/details/datemeraldpickaxe_gmail_What/Bella+and+the+Bulldogs+is+AWFUL!!!+Cuckold+pervert+writes+a+children 's+show!-iilsORyfOkg.mkv

bella and the Bulldogs creator too

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T02:11:59

Thanks, i think.

There are some creepy videos in that archive.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T06:38:29

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/dillon-the-hacker-dillon-henderson-griffin-alexander-klaus.3437/page-2

dude was trolling bronies too

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T06:55:13

Well, they kinda deserve it.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T07:11:48

totally, I'm just noting he made a lot of online enemies, here is a more extensive background dox that was published on /MLP/

https://skidbin.net/paste?t=BiqbA9

it includes his whole family. he had a lot of bad attention

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T07:25:30

Anything yet on his cause of death?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T07:45:35

none, just remnants of earlier doxes.

He definitely was a child actor involved in the Louisiana youth theater scene

https://www.exploretalent.com/griffinklaus

his aunt died in 2017, very young, and with a fiance and kids

https://www.actionnews17.com/news/s-lindsey-mckay-1

Great Uncle died in 2019 (shriner and mason)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/obits.nola.com/amp/obituaries/nola/187959579

Grandfather died in 2018

https://obits.nola.com/obituaries/nola/obituary.aspx?n=william-macarthur-klaus-billy&pid=187959579

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T14:18:00

Thanks for explaining MOVPER, never heard of it before. they sound like a family of American Manchus.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T17:44:57

American Manchus?

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T17:56:57

Yeah. It's been rolling around in my head for awhile. China got fucked by the Manchurians and their mismanagement of the country. After seeing all the little webs that tie all these 'actors' together, along with their families, it makes me think of the Manchu Tribe. IDK, just being goofy i guess, been a long time since I studied that tribe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchu_people - https://archive.fo/hQBKx

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurchen_people - https://archive.fo/wKAYB

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T18:00:30

ahhh lol. My Chinese history is lacking. I thought it was Dr. Fu Manchu thing or "Manchurian Candidate" reference

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T18:12:10

The Manchurian Candidate takes on a whole extra layer of meaning to me because of the history of the tribe.

Dr. Fu Manchu movies make me laugh, gotta love those old horror movie actors. Sooo campy.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T14:17:07

@shewhomustbeobeyed

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T14:39:33

Already posted the archives. :p

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T22:26:17

https://www.actionnews17.com/griffin-alexander-klaus

Griffin Alexander Klaus passed away on Sunday, July 28, 2019 in Hammond, Louisiana at the age of 20. He was born October 14, 1998 in Covington, Louisiana to Kayla Ann McKay Klaus and William M. “Billy” Klaus, Jr. He was a student at Montclair University in Montclair, New Jersey pursuing his lifelong dream to become an actor/entertainer.

@shewhomustbeobeyed @vindicator @crensch @heygeorge @ericKaliberhall

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Crensch 2019-09-01T22:06:27

Edit: Speculation of death/hoax is in my original link. Why are Mods trying to remove this post?

Youtube Star dead

Edit: Speculation of death/hoax is in my original link.

Youtube Star dead

Edit: Speculation of death/hoax

Youtube Star dead

Speculation

Youtube Star dead

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T06:59:56

It is the mark of an educated mind to consider an idea without accepting it.

-Aristotle

@Crensch you can discuss other people's speculation without coming to a definite conclusion yourself. ...or maybe you can't ...

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-02T18:26:26

Welcome to the popularity contest. Truly shameful to see them downvote you, when I clearly remember these same dingbats upvoting the fuck out of a Khazarian Disinformation Whore, the whole time she's been here. At least it is clear now, just how far they will go to control the narrative.

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YogSoggoth 2019-09-01T21:33:00

This possibly leads to, robschneider.com and Early life

Majors was born in Wyandotte, Michigan, a suburb of Detroit and strangely not far from Chicago and the other throwaway cities that once made stuff. His parents, Carl and Alice Yeary, were both killed in separate accidents (prior to his birth and when he was one year old, respectively). At age two, Majors was adopted by an uncle and aunt and moved with them to Middlesboro, Kentucky. 5 million dollar man. Maybe 6. Hollywood connection no matter which way you look at it. Rob Schneider was in Home Alone 2 telling Mc Cauly Cualkin how to navigate the hotel.

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redwing14 2019-09-01T15:22:26

that guy is cringy. Glad he's dead.

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goatboy 2019-09-01T11:22:23

There is a growing list of mysteriously dead youtubers: Grant Thomas, Dillion Don’tgiveafuck, etc.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T15:59:55

Grant Thomas was found dead w/a recording devi d after paragliding in St. george Utah.

St. George Utah is very close to to the short creek FLDS

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EricKaliberhall 2019-09-01T10:45:23

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Possible Disinformation flair is activated.

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YogSoggoth 2019-09-01T21:41:53

I agree, people die all the time around paranoid folk. " tugging on necktie to loosen".

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YogSoggoth 2019-09-01T22:38:58

Please don't say Yog. I have so much on my plate. Maybe later, when I can deal with it. If they make one mistake, I will mess them up so bad. That is how I sleep at night.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T17:47:42

Nothing in my post is possible disinfo.

My post covers both possibilities (hoax/real), so nobody can accuse me of later spreading a false narrative

I am reposting MSM news stories that mention online speculation about his death being a hoax

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/tragedy-mystery-over-dillon-hackers-19036892

The official narrative is no details have emerged regarding his death. Thus, it is a developing story.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed is this "possible disinfo" flair warranted?

Multiple MSM sites say it may be a hoax. The accusations of it being a "troll/hoax" are a necessary to fully encompass the story.

Flairing the post as "possible disinfo" (when I dont commit to either narrative) actually keeps people from reading it and considering if it is disinfo or not.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-02T18:11:07

Hi @NOMOCHOMO , I didn't see your submission before you edited, so I'm not sure what the fuss is about.

Your post is higher quality than others that have not been flaired. You know there is always going to be a price to pay for not agreeing with the Qtards mind numbing whore-ship of the State of DJT. They won't take the flair down. You must be punished.

Other than this, I hope things are good for you. I went fly-fishing yesterday, had a blast.

:)

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Vindicator 2019-09-03T15:13:25

Interesting that you've chosen to amplify this drama by linking it to QAnon.

For all your past claims of wanting me to keep drama off the board for the sake of survivors, this seems highly inconsistent.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T15:31:20

Interesting that you choose to be conveniently absent to defend users who HAVE NOT been proven to be shills when you buddy decides to fuck with them. Just because you don't agree/like them. You idiots brought the Qtarded bullshit to this board, not me.

Quit fucking with the PG submitters and I stop ridiculing Qtards.

Hold your Qtards to the same stringent standards, or tell them to fuck off.

Until you show me a 'Good Government Agency/Entity' I'm gonna keep thinking that anyone who trusts the plan is just plain stupid. PROVE ME WRONG, or leave me be. @NOMOCHOMO

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T06:28:17

Nice mess of generalizations, SWMBO. What users? What buddy? Why are you dodging specifics?

You can ridicule whoever you like but you've clearly demonstrated your hypocrisy. I take it the "archivist" role was just a ruse to build a reputation so you could begin attacking and sowing discord when the time was ripe? All those friendly DMs were just an attempt to wheedle your way into a position of trust...so I'd believe Nomo here was really a CDAN researcher when you brought me his bonafides? How elaborate.

And sad.

And how predictable your tantrum is triggered by QAnon, whose site has been shut down by Cloudflare and a Congressional hearing. Seems like a lot of effort for something of no consequence. LMAO.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T07:16:37

I take it the "archivist" role was just a ruse to build a reputation so you could begin attacking and sowing discord when the time was ripe? All those friendly DMs were just an attempt to wheedle your way into a position of trust...so I'd believe Nomo here was really a CDAN researcher when you brought me his bonafides? How elaborate

@Vindicator this is a literal paranoid spiral.

I am psychically slapping you in the face right now over the internet because you sound fucking hysterical.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T15:20:29

Now you are trying to tie this to QAnon as well. Interesting.

Nothing in this post or the question over which it was flaired had anything at all to do with Q.

Nice attempt at tag team gaslighting, though.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T15:48:07

so I'd believe Nomo here was really a CDAN researcher when you brought me his bonafides? How elaborate.

And sad.

And how predictable your tantrum is triggered by QAnon,

I didn't tie this to Q-Anon. @Swmbo mentioned Q first. Then you attacked her and implicated me. So I replied.

Just because @shewhomustbeobeyed and I think Q is a psy-op doesn't mean we're part of a conspiracy to subvert you.

Dude get a grip.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T15:58:47

It's true that i see the mods here as only picking on users who despise q-cultists, that's because if they've ever gone after a qtard, i missed it.

I'm sure it's all my fault, i am quite prejudiced against them. And our mods have always been so fair and impartial. :D

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T16:00:00

And I share your opinion. Therefore I am "gaslighting"

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T16:21:23

Now that was a good movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctd3NPx1pdM

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T16:28:04

I've actually never seen it! I need a good flick.

p.s. check out this St. Thomas USVI from over 2 years ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1898288

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T16:38:46

I remember that. I asked donqi if he still had the photos from his early submissions so I could archive them. He didn't, and that picture site is down now. We've lost so much evidence over the years.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T07:27:01

@shewhomustbeobeyed I think I edited your tag into the comment. sorry

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T07:38:02

I'm gonna call it a night. He can get rid of me if he really believes this.

Good night, i'll be praying for both of you.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T07:42:33

Ditto. I've said my piece

Goodnight! thank you, Swmbo.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T07:10:24

What users? What buddy?

Obtuse.

You can ridicule whoever you like but you've clearly demonstrated your hypocrisy. I take it the "archivist" role was just a ruse to build a reputation so you could begin attacking and sowing discord when the time was ripe? All those friendly DMs were just an attempt to wheedle your way into a position of trust...so I'd believe Nomo here was really a CDAN researcher when you brought me his bonafides? How elaborate.

This is pretty funny, Vin. I didn't lie to you about nomo. Not ever. Still got a chuckle though.

And how predictable your tantrum is triggered by QAnon

No. My 'tantrum' has been caused by cultists who slurp up Q like it is anything other than a larp to get DJT reelected.

I still say you have made me sadder. You two have all the power to make me go away. You don't want me here, you think i'm a shill? Fix it then. But if you are just mad because I don't trust you anymore then why don't you just block me and then you won't have to watch me berate the thot anymore.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T15:16:31

No. My 'tantrum' has been caused by cultists who slurp up Q like it is anything other than a larp to get DJT reelected.

Still trying to tie this to QAnon.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T15:43:30

Unlike others, i never said Q was fake. I happen to believe its just a fresh form of politics as usual, and as such is so very trivial when compared to PG.

And most qtards are too dim to understand that ALL earthly rulers are evil, especially the ones that share a specific DNA.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T15:45:50

(((Interesting))) how @Vindicator defaults to opaque, Nancy-ing accusations of ill intent.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T15:54:52

@Vindicator hates me because I hate the THOT

of PG getting buried by politics again.

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think- 2019-09-01T17:58:01

Then you should have chosen another headline. Your headline says 'Youtube Star dead'. And yes, headlines need to be accurate, or they will get flaired.

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QanadaHere 2019-09-03T19:28:56

You are a tard. the title states exactly what the article says. Eat shit.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T18:24:48

I wasn't flaired for having an inaccurate title, toots.

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

@ericKaliberhall Possible Disinformation flair is activated.

Apparently I was flaired as "possible disinfo" for noting that there are accusations of fakery in the online discussions of Dillon's death.

Which is so asinine. My post is apparently "possible disinfo" because I consider both possibilities...?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T18:08:58

all msm is reporting him dead.

If I were to post a different headline, people would claim I'm spreading disinfo by claiming it's a hoax.

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Crensch 2019-09-01T18:24:25

Youtube Star dead

The above is a factual claim.

Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link.

It very obviously isn't common knowledge if:

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Therefore, I'm flagging this per rule 2. @EricKaliberhall @think- @Vindicator

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T18:28:52

So if a story is developing, it cannot be reported on here until it is empirical/common knowledge?

I provide a source because it isn't common knowledge...yet my own doubt of the truthfulness of the MSM story invalidates it as empirical evidence?

wtf are you even saying?

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Crensch 2019-09-01T18:42:03

So if a story is developing, it cannot be reported on here until it is empirical/common knowledge?

Sounds like you're having trouble understanding the rules.

I provide a source https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/dillon-the-hacker-dead/ because it isn't common knowledge...

You provide that source but admit yourself that nobody knows exactly what happened. Meaning your source didn't say that. Meaning you just posted a link that didn't verify your claim.

yet my own doubt of the truthfulness of the MSM story invalidates it as empirical evidence per pizzagate rules?

You made the claim.

You make the claim, you support it.

"Youtube Star dead"

Except we all know you can't support it, because by your own admission, nobody knows what happened.

wtf are you even saying?

Why is such a simple thing so difficult for you to grasp?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T18:57:04

(((You provide that source but admit yourself that nobody knows exactly what happened. Meaning your source didn't say that. Meaning you just posted a link that didn't verify your claim.)))

My own doubt doesn't invalidate the claim the article is making.

The article I linked is titled:

"Dillon the Hacker Dead"

That article uses the statements of other Youtubers who had relationships with Dillon to verify the claims including PewdiePie & BGKumbi

They got multiple confirmations which together become the empirical basis for the article.

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Crensch 2019-09-01T19:40:24

My own doubt doesn't invalidate the claim the article is making.

You made the post. You submitted the text. The claim is yours to defend.

The article I linked is titled:

"Dillon the Hacker Dead"

So?

Just because you repeat a lie doesn't mean you're not responsible for supporting it.

That article uses the statements of other Youtubers who had relationships with Dillon to verify the claims including PewdiePie & BGKumbi

So... lots of anecdotal evidence. Do you know why anecdotes aren't accepted as evidence for most things?

They got multiple confirmations which together become the empirical basis for the article.

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

Empirical, but unconfirmed.

Edit: Speculation of death/hoax is in my original link. Why are Mods trying to remove this post?

You're really quite stupid, aren't you?

Re-post without stating as a fact that he's dead when you cannot confirm it with anyone but "people who are close to him" if you cannot confirm it.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-01T19:56:12

Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link.

v.s.

Empirical, but unconfirmed

where is "confirmed" or "unconfirmed" in the official submission rules?

@shewhomustbeobeyed @vindicator

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Crensch 2019-09-01T20:52:47

EACH factual claim

Youtube Star dead

So any link referencing the subject but not confirming the claim is acceptable, even when the user admits that the claims is unconfirmed?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T00:24:07

the link confirms the claim with the statements of 3 individuals who were involved with the "deceased"

my own caution has no bearing on the empirical claims

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Crensch 2019-09-02T01:33:14

the link confirms the claim with the statements of 3 individuals who were involved with the "deceased"

That's not your claim. Your claim was not "3 individuals claim youtuber is deceased" it is "Youtube star dead".

Your backpedaling has no bearing on your burden of proof.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T05:44:41

My title is "YouTube Star Dead, circumstances unknown..."

My title is based directly on the vast majority of Mainstream Media Articles which themeselves claim "Dillon the Hacker is Dead"

Not only did I qualify my title with "circumstances unknown" I urged caution in the first line of my post.

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead....But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll.

W/in the reporting, the confusion is addressed, but finalizes with the conclusion that the death is real. Hence the Editorial Staff approving the title.

You're shifting the standard of proof from "empirical" to "confirmed". Such a standard is NOT FOUND in submission guidelines.

you still have not clarified as to what "confirmation" would reverse your flair. Death Cert?

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

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Crensch 2019-09-02T06:07:58

Let me give you an example:

"HILLARY CLINTON IS IN JAIL"

People close to Hillary made this statement; here's a link.

Nobody knows what happened.

That's what you're saying should be allowed here.

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QanadaHere 2019-09-03T19:32:26

That would make sense if Hillary was not confirmed to be in jail. But in this case Dillon is confirmed dead. Pointing out that the article points out that online commenters think this is a troll does not negate the FACT the Dillon is DEAD. Get off your high horse Rabbi.

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Crensch 2019-09-03T20:14:36

But in this case Dillon is confirmed dead.

No. At the time of my writing the above comments, op had not provided a source confirming his death. Op admitted that all he had was hearsay from some friends.

Arguing as you are after the fact is dishonest.

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QanadaHere 2019-09-04T18:58:54

Wrong again. The article stated that Dillon was dead, and that he may be the Youtuber in question. Either way the kid in the article is dead.

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Crensch 2019-09-04T20:11:51

Read what you just wrote again. Really really slowly.

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QanadaHere 2019-09-04T20:13:18

yep, still makes sense. You still dont.

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Crensch 2019-09-04T20:34:39

The article States some dude was dead. The article did not confirm he was that YouTuber. The submission title States that the YouTuber is dead.

Does someone pay you to be this stupid, or is it genetic?

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QanadaHere 2019-09-05T14:05:03

You're a fucktard bud.. You would not be saying that to my face. Online internet hero.

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Crensch 2019-09-05T16:40:01

You would not be saying that to my face.

So it's genetic. Only niggers would throw a punch when they couldn't win with words.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T21:36:35

And you're claiming you removed the flair because I "provided a source confirming the death"

By your absurd standard, the obituary is also hearsay from his family.

You're utterly full of shit.

His friends would lie but his family wouldn't?

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Crensch 2019-09-03T21:42:43

You don't know the difference between an obituary and a couple of friends saying something?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T21:43:06

both are hearsay

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Crensch 2019-09-03T22:20:30

Okay, now go with the frequency of obituaries being wrong or jokes versus someone just saying something and collaborating with another person to say the same thing.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T22:33:35

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_premature_obituaries

...idk...frequent enough to have an extensive wikipedia page and be the basis of a famous quotation attributed to Mark Twain

a big enough blow to your "confirmation" standard to make it useless and arbitrary

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Crensch 2019-09-03T22:37:44

Cool. Then you admit your original link wasn't a source for your factual claim.

And now you are trying to argue that your edited link is also not a source for that claim.

@vindicator

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T23:00:10

sigh.

Quote it back to me bitch

you're spinning in circles

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Crensch 2019-09-03T23:02:54

Someone smarter than you would see exactly what happened here.

Let me walk you through it.

Do you agree that a couple of friends lying about someone dying happens a lot more often than obituaries being false?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T00:59:31

we're done dummy. Remove the post if you've won.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T07:37:32

Let me give you an example:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3400486

Suprise one of Epstein's cameras was not working.

according to This story ( http://archive.fo/TQ9Oi ) one the cameras on Epstein's was not working.

Relevancy is a probable cover-up of a murder of an elite pedophile or white hats putting him in witness protection so he can offer testimony on other elite pedophiles.

switch Hillary Clinton w/ Epstein....These posts are allowed already...

"sources who were briefed earlier this month"

vs

4 youtubers who have documented online history w/ dillon.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

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Crensch 2019-09-02T08:40:24

Hmm, and nobody reported it or mentioned that OP literally lied in the title.

@Vindicator I'll let you figure out where you want to draw this line. I think NOMOshade is trying to cause problems, but you've got point here.

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Vindicator 2019-09-03T04:35:34

Thanks Crensch. Only just saw this ping.

Generally speaking, when facts are in dispute or something might be disinfo, we only flair it such if the submitter does not discuss the disinfo likelihood himself. It looked to me like @Nomochomo did that here (though the submission was edited before I saw it, so that may not have been the case originally before @EricKaliberhall flair it.)

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Crensch 2019-09-03T05:21:38

My problem wasn't the veracity of the claim, it was that he made the factual claim, then literally stated that his supporting link did not support that claim.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T05:47:46

literally stated that his supporting link did not support that claim.

Then Quote it back to me Bitch.

You are desperately twisting my words to justify your ham handed moderation.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed

My OP, and Current Post say the same thing

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

I didn't say he didn't die. I complied with the standard Vin states:

when facts are in dispute or something might be disinfo, we only flair it such if the submitter does not discuss the disinfo likelihood himself.

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Crensch 2019-09-03T08:32:55

Oh, lookie here:

Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content

Youtube Star dead

.

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead.

Do you know the difference between dead and apparently dead?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T14:39:40

is apparently dead not dead?

you're reaching so far.

At this point, you just look like a hack with a personal vendetta.

@shewhomustbeobeyed

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T14:42:51

You're killing me. I shouldn't be ROFL, but i am. I'll be ashamed later.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T14:49:12

I swear it's like Crensch is getting dumber at a Flowers for Algernon pace.

or more dishonest at a Faustian pace

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T15:18:12

They hate you, because I don't. They couldn't make me believe you were ES, no matter what they said. Now they hate both of us. I still don't see them as 'the enemy', more like 'religiously confused' and not really 'red pilled'. Maybe 'pink-hued pilled', idk, but it is tiring.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T05:23:30

I don't hate either of you. I hate bad behavior that feeds the shills who want to shut this board down. You used to know that. Was that all just a ruse? Pretty sad.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T06:27:11

Because this is your opinion of me, is why I don't know anything about you.

Sad? You mean like watching how a shill YOU modded has set fire and nearly destroyed the PG community, all while being protected by a bunch of cucked up neets? Is that the kind of sad you mean? You been making me sad for a hell of a lot longer.

Because a mod of PG has made it clear that PMs of the users of PG will be revealed to other mods and the rest of Voat, and i have come to understand now how wrong that is, I find that I have been unable to come to you with my concerns. What you see is me learning how to cope with it without being able to trust any mod again.

SAD??????

fuck you.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T06:31:00

a shill YOU modded has set fire and nearly destroyed the PG community

What are you talking about? I'd like to see evidence of any of this.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T05:48:42

I don't think you hate us. I just think ya'll sometimes get emotionally attached to your internet identity and make decisions based upon perceived disrespect. A public shaming is a very fair consequence for a mistake, and we can all move on with the investigation.

I hate bad behavior that feeds the shills who want to shut this board down.

I agree. Moderator Behavior Included.

too often, we see people held to differing submission standards based upon Moderator suspicion that they are info terrorists.

Ya'll are acting like TSA and repeatedly strip searching me when I'm an innocent passenger trying to get through security.

@shewhomustbeobeyed

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Crensch 2019-09-03T08:28:46

You are desperately twisting my words to justify your ham handed moderation.

You're not even playing checkers, here.

Then Quote it back to me Bitch.

Your inability to understand that your claim that someone is dead =/= others claiming the same. Until you found the info in your edit 2, you had no support for your claim that he is dead - you had hearsay. When you admit in your submission that your claims aren't backed up in your sources, it's pretty obvious that your claim runs afoul of the rules.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T14:14:46

claim runs afoul

Remove the post if I broke the rules bitch.

You can't because I didn't. @Crensch bent the knee before I found the obituary.

Hmm, and nobody reported it or mentioned that OP literally lied in the title.

@Vindicator I'll let you figure out where you want to draw this line. I think NOMOshade is trying to cause problems, but you've got point here.

I also have asked you three times what counted as "confirmation" and you never responded. Only clarifying now?

Until you found the info in your edit 2, you had no support for your claim that he is dead - you had hearsay.

By your retarded standard. This obituary (which lists no "sources" or "proof") would also be hearsay.

You lost, and sound desperate. Apologize if you want to save face.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T14:31:27

@shewhomustbeobeyed

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-28-2015/Ba6Hlc.gif

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T14:38:07

Good Morning!

There's nothing like coffee and a giggle to start the day.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T05:00:10

thanks Vin, this was my OP submission text

Dillon the Hacker is a YouTuber. He's now apparently dead.

https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/dillon-the-hacker-dead/

But nobody knows exactly what happened...Some are even accusing it of being a stunt/troll

He's the first person who ever accused Dan Schneider of being a pedo on Video (2014)

https://youtu.be/ltbzdKB8jZEYouTube

In what appears to be a fictional rant, Dillon repeatedly references Dan's Jewish Heritage. Claims he dated Ariana Grande before she was famous and personally heard stories of sex slavery and ritualized abuse of nickelodeon stars.

Archive this Video, YouTube could purge his account: https://youtu.be/ltbzdKB8jZEYouTube

I still haven't made up my mind on this whole spectacle. Whether Dillon is dead or alive, his "death" can be used to bring more attention to Dan Schneider's pedo proclivity

For the record @shewhomustbeobeyed

It was first flaired "possible disinfo" by @EricKaliberhall

Upon my contesting of the flair, and subsequent edit, @crensch gave it the 24 hour flair.

I appreciate the removals of the flairs.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T05:14:17

I'm glad you guys have settled this.

I do not have the ability to save video. If you have a bitchute account or something similar, you can archive them yourself. Firefox has a video save, I hear.

Also, we are currently on lockdown, so i am unable to archive Voat submissions as well. You can take screenshots and I can archive those.

After reading the disagreement you had with the mods, I hope they can define their standards better.

Please be careful, septimasexta got banned the other day.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T05:29:10

Thanks for witnessing. @Shewhomustbeobeyed

Ditto on mod standards @Vindicator @Crensch @erickaliberhall @heygeorge I had my post flaired as "Disinfo" or "Rule Breaking" for over a day.

Thus delegitimizing it, keeping people from reading it, and ultimately suppressing valid info dissemination.

to encourage the highest moderation standards, what if Mods had to sticky any posts that are deemed unfairly flagged/removed and flair them Supressed or Retraction

It's what Putt did with the Junkerman Post during our DDOS. Seems in line with Voat's pursuit of free speech

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Vindicator 2019-09-03T14:59:21

You're not trying to "encourage highest moderation standards" Nomo. You are eagerly taking advantage of what you perceive as an opportunity to attack the moderators of this board, which you have done since your very first day here, which occurred the same week we exposed the most nefarious, speech-suppressing user we've ever had on this board.

That guy was constantly attacking moderators as well.

If you don't want downvotes, stop acting like an asshole drama queen.

I had my post flaired as "Disinfo" or "Rule Breaking" for over a day.

Thus delegitimizing it, keeping people from reading it, and ultimately suppressing valid info dissemination.

Wanna back that up with some evidence? You can't, because it fake and gay. The flairs did not harm your submission in any way whatsoever. It's still #7 on the front page.

Furthermore, the 24 Hour Grace flair is specifically given to draw user attention to posts that need help so they can be preserved. The whole point of it is to get MORE people reading and assisting.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T15:16:39

I'm calling Mods out when they fuck up. It's my duty to, because Mods aren't Gods. Ya'll need help sometimes

Why is my suggestion for a retracted or unfairly suppressed a bad idea?

You didn't attack my suggestion, just me personally. I'm detecting a pattern.

If you don't want downvotes, stop acting like an asshole drama queen.

Fuck off @Vindicator and get your Mods' moderation standards straight. Stop defending their mistakes.

I had to defend my post against two illegitimate moderator flairs. Both were removed without comment (thieves in the night)

Even after the flairs are removed, I continue to have a MODERATOR ( @CRENSCH ) claiming in comments that my post

runs afoul of the rules.

@Crensch is the drama Queen, apparently you are his bitch.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T06:05:21

You are the most thin-skinned submitter I've ever seen on this board, Nomo. You've been suspicious and rude from day one, here. Crensch and Eric are both convinced you are EsotericShade. I'm the only one who is on the fence.

You have nothing but scorn for the submission rules, and the few mods who have been willing to sit in the hot seat and enforce them for the userbase. I didn't see this post in it's original form, and there is no archive of it, so I have no idea whether you edited it to fuck with @EricKaliberhall , or whether he gave a wrong flair. @Crensch got involved because he was called in by a separate, highly regarded user who also thinks you are trying to disrupt the board with disinfo and drama.

ProTip: Crensch is a Nazi...about the rules and a lot of other things. He has a MUCH more strict interpretation of the ruleset than I have ever had -- partly because he is not a pizzagate researcher and has never involved himself with the userbase of this board. I try to err on the side of leaving a post up, because who knows when we're going to get a great lead? Crensch's job was to police the mods and kill disinfo trolls.

So you could say I'm "his bitch" if you want. He can demod me at any time as the owner of this board. He stepped in because I have been very busy IRL and he was summoned. Normally, he lets me mod as I see fit, which I have always tried to do fairly and in accord with my perception of what the users desire.

Our ruleset is complex, and administering it is not always easy to do in a wise, fair and prudential manner. Sometimes mods make mistakes. Sometimes trolls set them up.

With 32,902 posts on the board, all of which have been read and weighed by mods, your little flair hiccup is a zit on a gnats ass. Someone who cared about this community more than himself would recognize that and behave magnanimously, not get his panties in a wad over a flair requested by users and go on a rampage about "moderation standards".

Grow up, dude. v/Pizzagate is not about you.

Also, next time you might want to message modmail when you have a problem. I've had you blocked since your equally juvenile attempt to bait me into a political fight about Trump. I don't see your pings.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T06:25:46

So you could say I'm "his bitch" if you want. He can demod me at any time as the owner of this board.

@shewhomustbeobeyed

Yes I'm thin skinned about child abuse @Vindicator

Your only criticism of me is my attitude.

I'm sorry my brusque candor violates your gentle sensibilities O great arbiter of 32,902 posts.

Fee fees don't matter. Kids are getting raped.

@erickaliberhall hasn't commented since his original flair.

How about you ask him via modmail rather than publically me accusing me?

All you do these days is Ad Hominem and brag

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T06:36:39

Yes I'm thin skinned about child abuse @Vindicator

What is this supposed to mean, exactly?

You are thin skinned about yourself, Nomo. If you cared about the submission, you wouldn't be shitting up your own thread with a waterfall of drama guaranteed to make regular PG readers turn away and keep them from sharing it with their friends and family.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-04T07:01:07

What is this supposed to mean, exactly?

Is english your second language?

I have been defending my post against #FalseFlairs and character attacks for 3 days.

Not a single one panned out.

All attacks came from Mods, not Pizzagate users

Even after flairs were removed, Mods continue accusing me of breaking post rules.

I guess that makes me "thin-skinned"

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T15:18:47

@shewhomustbeobeyed if they ban me, I'll resurface on cdan with a new name. You will know what it is

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T19:15:08

which occurred the same week we exposed the most nefarious, speech-suppressing user we've ever had on this board.

I don't remember the mods exposing the disinformation THOT for all her doxxing and malicious behavior when you joined Voat. Do you?

I must have missed that part.

fake and gay

Oh my fukin kek, The cognitive dissonance oozing off of @Vindicator is nauseating. Truly epic.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T06:14:09

Dream on. I'm perfectly at ease. You, however, appear to be seething with resentment and bitterness, for some reason.

Care to elaborate on all this trash-talking you're doing, Miss Please, No Drama Think of the Survivors?

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T06:49:23

I know you're at ease with your cognitive dissonance, that's the sad part.

Care to elaborate on all this trash-talking you're doing,

Yeah, cuz my comment history is just filled with me going around spending the majority of my time trash talking others. But if you want to know something, just ask.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T15:14:35

I did ask, and you're dodging.

Also, I think you might want to look up the meaning of cognitive dissonance.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T15:26:40

i did elaborate, you just want a different answer. Just for you I looked it up to see if its meaning has changed, it hasn't, I meant it.

Now, why don't you go pick on someone who has an army of alts and doxxes users to the point of having several of their alts banned. You know, like that thot-mod you keep protecting.

Now that would be something.

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Vindicator 2019-09-04T15:55:38

Ah...now I get it. You're mad that Donkey's bullshit finally caught up with him and you think that has something to do with srayzie.

Check the banlog. I put Donkey out to pasture because he was impersonating @letsdothis3 -- at the request of multiple regular contributors, by the way.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T16:14:44

I don't give a fuck about that, he should never have done it to begin with, and earned his ban all on his own. You really are dense at times.

A former PG mod and creator of GA, has an army of alts, doxxes people to the point that Putt bans a bunch of thase alts, and you think this is about donqi. Apples and oranges. Stop deflecting.

You really don't understand. I am done trying to explain it. You are inconsistent.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T19:39:10

" drama queen "

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T20:09:06

Asking for your submission to be stickied before more info is available is a bit faggy, imo.

I don't want all this pissing and moaning to be on top of the sub. There is already a submission stickied with enough faggotry in it to last a lifetime and a half.

If this develops into something more, i wish you would do a whole new submission on it.

I have a favor to ask.

Would you please put your edits at the bottom of your submissions? With them at the top it is hard for me to tell what section is what.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T21:30:28

Asking for your submission to be stickied before more info is available is a bit faggy, imo.

I never asked for mine to be flaired. I proposed a future rule change so pizzagate submitters could hold Mods accountable.

to encourage the highest moderation standards, what if Mods had to sticky any posts that are deemed unfairly flagged/removed and flair them Supressed or Retraction

Moderator Accountability/Consistent Rule Application? -> SHUT IT DOWN + (((Ad Hominem)))

Would you please put your edits at the bottom of your submissions? With them at the top it is hard for me to tell what section is what.

Yes. While I won't change this one, I will for future posts. plz remind me if I ever forget.

If this develops into something more, i wish you would do a whole new submission on it.

I assume you're talking about the actual submission content and not the resulting drama?

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-04T01:50:10

I proposed a future rule change so pizzagate submitters could hold Mods accountable.

Make me a list of the rules you'd like to change/add/delete/fiddlewith, will you.

I assume you're talking about the actual submission content and not the resulting drama?

Yes I am!!!

While I won't change this one, I will for future posts.

Thank you, obviously if the edit is important it should be at the top, but it would make it easier for me if they were listed in order, at the bottom.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T15:36:19

I srarted and stopped reading cdan because of you, I kept wasting time looking for your debates. Now I only go there to archive.

If they do ban you, I'll archive and repost to PG anything you want, just let me know.

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T05:50:47

what if Mods had to sticky any posts that are deemed unfairly flagged/removed and flair them Supressed or Retraction

Haha, you don't want much, do you? It's not too bad of an idea, keep me posted, will you?

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-03T06:03:54

I'd like all of these downvoats reversed while I'm dreaming

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T20:53:08

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3407984/20413180

It's been over 24 hours, If you can't prove a submission violation, you should reverse the frivolous flair

@shewhomustbeobeyed

@vindicator

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shewhomustbeobeyed 2019-09-03T00:03:59

Congrats.

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Crensch 2019-09-02T06:04:24

You're shifting the standard of proof from "empirical" to "confirmed". Such a standard is NOT FOUND in submission guidelines.

It's not even about this.

Each factual claim must have a source and you literally admit that your factual claim is not sourced. That you're making a factual claim, then sourcing a "nobody really knows but some people SAID something".

What part of this do you not understand? It should be very simple.

I don't care if your claim and source suck, but you admit you have no source for your claim.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T06:42:52

You're shifting the standard of proof from "empirical" to "confirmed". Such a standard is NOT FOUND in submission guidelines.

it's not even about this.

@vindicator @shewhomustnotbeobeye d

it is about this. The standard of proof is no longer "empirical", but "confirmed"....those were @crensch 's words. That term is not defined in pizzagate submission rules.

literally admit that your factual claim is not sourced

then quote it back to me bitch.

The heavy.com link, substantiates the death with the statements of 4 public internet celebrities who publically and privately interacted with Dillon (PewDiePie, BG Kumbi, Mc Selma, and Pupinia Stewart)

So 4 statements, and the majority of the MSM say he died. I urged caution.

For a 3rd Time

WHAT STANDARD OF PROOF IS REQUIRED TO "CONFIRM" DEATH

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T06:45:43

@shewhomustbeobeyed odd, didn't tag u right

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Crensch 2019-09-02T05:54:50

YouTube Star Dead

Claim.

My title is based directly on the vast majority of Mainstream Media Articles which themeselves claim "Dillon the Hacker is Dead"

Irrelevant.

Not only did I qualify my title with "circumstances unknown" I urged caution in the first line of my post.

Should have been in title. Not my problem.

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NOMOCHOMO 2019-09-02T06:09:10

Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link. If you ask a question: Explain what led to your question and provide sources. If you present opinion/argument, connect your dots and provide sources for them. Avoid baseless speculation. ALL posts must include at least one link.

@vindicator @shewhomustbeobeyed what part of rule 2 has been broken.

@Crensch is claiming the links that substantiate the claim are irrelevant?

this "confirmed" bullshit is rife with abuse potential. Links are no longer good enough, even when those links provide 3 individual substantiating youtuber sources/statements

what is necessary to substantiate a death claim? multiple news stories confirming it?