Don Jr's booksite...scroll down for an interesting picture of Romney. ( pizzagate )

submitted by TheSpeaker2

https://triggeralib.com/

Interesting picture of Mitt Romney at the bottom. Needs no explanation for this group!

Cheers

Vindicator

@TheSpeaker2 , v/pizzagate submission rules do require an explanation of relevance. I don't get how this is pizzagate related...though it is an hilarious marketing ploy. :-) I'll give you our 24 Hour Grace flair so you can edit in your pizzagate thesis. Otherwise, I'll have to remove this per Rule 1.

TheSpeaker2

Well, feel free to remove. The picture of Romney shows him eating ice cream, and I felt it was self-explanatory that Don Jr knows about Romney. No, it's not research - was only meant to encourage others.

I haven't posted in the pizzagate sub for awhile; had forgotten about the more strict posting rules.

Vindicator

No worries. The attempt to encourage is appreciated. :-)

If you want to repost this as a research post, you can use links to our research archives on Little Baby Ice Cream (creepy videos) and Unilever's Good Humor brand (exact girl lover pedo logo). You also might want to throw in the recent fact Romney's secret Twitter Alt @PierrEDelectO has "pedo" baked in. ;-) There is definitely enough material there for a research post. It just takes a bit more effort.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Why don't you delete it.

Or are the imaginary interweb points so important to you that you will force a mod to delete instead?

@Vindicator told you to fix this submission, and you basically tell him NO.

Why don't you fuck off back to Qtardland where they don't mind lawlessness.

You're a disgrace, patriot.

Vindicator

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3491333/21136697

You're a disgrace, patriot.

Why are you trying to drive people off this board?

You are well aware the 24 Hour Grace flair is to help people learn how to post in accord with the rules. You could have easily helped him fix his post, rather than attack him so he won't come back again. Well done.

shewhomustbeobeyed

The dude chose to tell you he knew it wasn't research, right?

He in effect said he wasn't going to fix it, right?

Said 'feel free to remove', right?

I got him to remove it himself by using shame, saving you from having to issue him a ban warning.

You got a problem with the fact that I got some twit to remove a forum sliding post? WTAF

qtards suck, you know it, end of discussion.

You sure you're not mad at me? Cuz this sure feels like you being mad at me, Asshole.

Vindicator

You're projecting.

He admitted he forgot we had more stringent submission rules. That happens all the time; it doesn't mean someone has ill intent or is deliberately forum sliding. He is not in danger of a ban, because he's shown no pattern of disrespecting the submission rules. You, of course, know this, because we've discussed this before. You are portraying him in a dishonest manner.

You, on the other hand, are getting in the habit of attacking contributors. As I did with ES, Donkey and many, many others who have tried to drive people away, I will call it out.

It never makes me mad. Quite the contrary. Whenever people show their true colors, I find it heartening. Truth is liberating.

ESOTERICshade

As I did with ES, Donkey and many, many others who have tried to drive people away, I will call it out.

I tried to keep you from neutering and sterilizing pizzagate by mixing it with QlarpAnon. You disingenuous fuck.

shewhomustbeobeyed

projecting what?

There is no possible way for anyone to fix this submission, it's shite.

Did you bother to read the rest of our discussion? I thanked him, and said it showed no ill intent.

You have made it perfectly clear for quite some time now that you consider me a shill.

Name one genuine contributor I 'attacked'. You can't. I haven't.

You are a God Damned Liar. There's your attack. I never hid my disgust at qtards, told you a long time ago. I also told you that ES and donqi are more truthful than qtards, it's true, they are. They're just assholes about it.

I will not stop calling out stupid people. You should mind your business and tend to your knitting. If I want to argue with an idiot who posts horseshit, it ain't your business. Never has been.

Vindicator

Name one genuine contributor I 'attacked'. You can't. I haven't.

Oh? What would you call your treatment of this genuine contributor? He's been here since November 2016, but he gets excited and forgets to include a link in a post about Epstein's death and you accuse him of being a forum-sliding shill. You'll notice he hasn't been back since then, and didn't repost with a link after you "shamed him" either.

shewhomustbeobeyed

You obviously think that i have no right to question others motives, or fight back when called nazi, socialism is repugnant. I did nothing wrong, you just don't like it when i'm snarky.

shewhomustbeobeyed

@Vindicator , You are mad at the wrong person.

[–] shewhomustbeobeyed 3 points (+3|-0) 2 months ago

Why are you ignoring the submission rules and forum sliding the posts that adhere to those rules?

If you want to ask questions, the correct subverse is v/askpizzagate .

I asked a 'point-blank' blunt question. No names called.

[–] Ateam [S] 2 months ago

okay forum nazi trash

Ateam calls me

nazi = 1

trash = 1

[–] shewhomustbeobeyed 2 months ago

Well, aren't you a clever little shill. You know that only niggers and khazarian thots run around calling white people nazis, right?

Which one are you?

I call Ateam a shill = 1 and ask 2 questions

[–] Ateam [S] 2 months ago

wow...i was right!! that's funny, you really are Nazi trash! I was referring to your soup nazi like behavior but you really showed your true racist shill colors you Nazi Trash!! You're just like those fascists called Antifa...completely lost.

Ateam calls me

nazi = 3 more times, total = 4

trash = 2, total = 3

racist = 1

shill = 1

[–] shewhomustbeobeyed 2 months ago

So you calling me a nazi, that's not you being a racist? Or were you just trying to be edgy?

You are the one who started calling me names when I asked you a question. A question you didn't answer, by the way.

Aren't you offended that santanist have coopted the tribe of Judah, and call themselves Gods Chosen People? Because it offends the fuck out of me.

Does the word nigger trigger you? Then quit acting like one and follow the rules, dumbass.

I called Ateam a dumbass = 1

[–] Ateam [S] 2 months ago (edited 2 months ago)

Nazi racist shill, you have super one dimensional thinking and are not worth anyone's time. I'm sure you're a super happy person. Don't you have a mass shooting to go plan you Nazi trash simpleton?

nazi = 2, total = 6

racist = 1, total = 2

shill = 1, total = 2

trash = 1, total = 4

simpleton = 1

[–] shewhomustbeobeyed 2 months ago

One dimensional and boring. Can't answer a question, you racist piece of shit?

Very happy to not know you in real life, especially after checking out your ewetoob channel.

Piss off back to your fantasy land, aka GA.

They like people with your kinda logic over there.

I called Ateam

1 dimensional = 1

boring = 1

racist = 1

POS = 1

add the time i called it a

shill = 1

dumbass = 1

So basically i called it a "one dimensional, boring, racist, piece of shit, dumbassed shill"

It called me "nazi, nazi, nazi, nazi, nazi, nazi - racist, racist - shill, shill - trash, trash, trash, trash - simpleton"

Now THIS is projection.

You defend this scum and accuse me. Why?

Look at Ateams submission history, compared to mine it most certainly is a shill.

You chose poorly. And yes i think you are mad at me and therefore cannot see clearly. Otherwise what else am i left to think about you constantly defending people you should be excoriating? I defend myself because i have no defenders. I defend PG sub because you are constantly reminding me of how your life is just too busy to bother.

There is no repair, you've made your decision.

Vindicator

LOL. Nice try.

shewhomustbeobeyed

At what?

Vindicator

Your attempt to justify your genuinely shitty behavior toward fellow users and deflect my calling you out on it with claims that I'm too busy to mod this sub and I must be "mad".

If I got mad over such things, I wouldn't have lasted twenty minutes serving this community.

Doesn't it bother your conscience that you are driving people away? What if someone you think is a POS because they didn't understand the rules is actually someone with vital information to share, testing the waters before they drop their treasure? I've conversed with at least a couple of dozen people here over the years who got sideways at the beginning, had a belligerent fit about their submission being removed, and turned out to be someone legit. Several were law enforcement. Several were veterans. Many were survivors or friends of survivors.

If you care about the mission of this board, you won't try to drive people you deem unworthy away. It's pretty simple.

argosciv

What if someone you think is a POS

is actually someone with vital information to share, testing the waters before they drop their treasure?

Ship's already sailed on that one, lol.

shewhomustbeobeyed

You can answer my questions first, if you please.

Vindicator

LOL. Uh huh. That's what I thought!

shewhomustbeobeyed

Very well

First, I don't have to justify my behavior to anyone other than my husband and God.

Doesn't it bother your conscience that you are driving people away?

Who did I drive away? Ateam posted to PG after our convo. Drove away that idiot who made alts spoofing my name. My conscience feels good.

What if someone you think is a POS because they didn't understand the rules is actually someone with vital information to share, testing the waters before they drop their treasure?

Not playing "What if..." with you.

I've conversed with at least a couple of dozen people here over the years who got sideways at the beginning, had a belligerent fit about their submission being removed, and turned out to be someone legit. Several were law enforcement. Several were veterans. Many were survivors or friends of survivors.

That's nice.

If you care about the mission of this board, you won't try to drive people you deem unworthy away. It's pretty simple.

It is your OPINION that the people I go after are worthy.

It is my OPINION that they are not.

You do not get to force your opinions on me. And this has been the problem talking to you from the beginning. You're just like that disgraced power mod, she wouldn't put up with other people's opposing positions and opinions, either.

Okay, Laughing Boy. I've done your fucking homework assignment.

Will you answer my questions now, or continue to giggle and deflect?

Vindicator

Who did I drive away? Ateam posted to PG after our convo.

I stand corrected. I see that he did a new post a month later...which was downvoted heavily.

You defend this scum and accuse me. Why?

Look at Ateams submission history, compared to mine it most certainly is a shill.

You chose poorly.

It's interesting that you are framing my concerns about YOU as "defending" a shill. Totally disingenuous.

You haven't demonstrated he is a shill. Nor that I was in any way "defending" him. You've merely attempted to divert the conversation from the original question I asked you:

Why are you trying to drive people away from this board?

ES attacked anyone with the gall to discuss QAnon and tried to drive them to v/GreatAwakening . Donkey attacked people for being female, researching pizzagate and just about any other thing that rubbed him the wrong way, and caused many to be afraid to comment. You privately urged me to "think of the survivors" and not confront ES's vote brigading "harem".

And yet now that they're gone, you've decided to appoint yourself Cerberus.

Lord forbid we should have a board where people aren't afraid to post without being harassed!

There are many lurkers out there who read your vicious watchdogging of people's posts and will be reticent to comment or post anything themselves.

You realize you are claiming I'm "forcing my opinion on you" while you are "forcing your opinion" on the submitter of this post, right? It's baldfaced hypocrisy.

I don't have to justify my behavior to anyone other than my husband and God.

Really? Then why are you trying to justify it by claiming your targets deserved it?

shewhomustbeobeyed

I see that he did a new post a month later...which was downvoted heavily.

And that's my fault. Got it.

The people I've confronted about forum sliding all deserved it, imo.

You defended an idiot.

I do not confront people willy-nilly.

I have never policed peoples comments, that's more your crowds thing.

Why are you trying to drive people away from this board?

I have never told anyone that they don't belong on PG sub, Again that's more your speed. (except that creep tOO, when he posted child porn)

There are many lurkers out there who read your vicious watchdogging of people's posts and will be reticent to comment or post anything themselves.

Prove it. I'll betcha there are more people who are afraid of you and your crowd than little ol' me.

You fucking terrify me with your refusal to have @MadWorld stop archiving EVERY FUCKING WORD I WRITE. you make me afraid to have normal discussions. With ANYONE. Becoming caustic is how i choose to cope. I tell you I'm upset and what is your response. 'Just make and use an alt.' Not once did you address my fear or concerns, did you, Mr. Fippant. Here's the thing, when you abuse and use people, they tend to become abusive. I've stopped posting archives to your sub, maybe you could stop with the spying? That would be super.

MadWorld

Have you guys considered that you are both been played by a third party? For someone who is comfortable calling you a nazi, or throwing such buzzwords, surely does not sound like a victim trying to contribute in this subverse. I think you are right in calling them out. Let's not forget that there are accounts built for this purpose, to drive a wedge between people who try to do good to shed some light on evil.

For the record, the intent behind selective archiving was to keep words to their mouths. It all started when I saw numerous accounts, such as freshmeat, that were attacking Putt, in such a way that made him felt miserable. So yeah, I felt the pain in him for that moment, when all he wanted to do was to provide a free speech platform; but so much of what he got was brutal attacks. As I have made clear in our private messages, that was part of the reasons for archiving. I further archive some other users' comment history, because it has values worthy of preserving. As you know, I did not consider yours a shill account. That was made clear long ago. Your work of archiving in the background has being precious and important to preserve. I think your contribution deserves more appreciation that is often unnoticed :-).

If you are doubting that @Vindicator , or anyone else, has asked me to do something with your comments, I can tell you that no one has asked me to do such thing and no one has looked at your comments. If you are so worried about your comments, I think searchvoat is a bigger problem to you. Think about that for a moment.

As for @Vindicator , I think he is also overreacting (you both are very tense at each other). Again, for the user who throws buzzwords around does not sound like a genuine contributor, as @Vindicator would like to believe. And your comment on twos's lawsuit was very funny, even I could spot the joke.

I was once abused as a little kid. I chose not to talk about it whatsoever. But if a real victim has built up enough courage or made up his or her mind, that person will sure find ways to tell the story. I do not believe what you are doing will stop them.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Yes, I'm an easy target to mess with. My internet age is only 1 yr. older than my Voat age. That's why I stay here, in the trenches, fastest way to learn.

I don't care about any of the words I've used being used against me, and I know about SV. I am able to erase both Voat and searchvoat if I choose, can't erase you. (don't want to, just feel trapped) I told you, I'm not mad at you for doing it. I'm outraged that it was done behind my back. I will get over it, thought i was.

At this point, all I want is to leave PG management alone. But he doesn't want me to speak, I'm a girl, that ain't happenin'.

I know how much pressure putt and vin get placed on them, it makes me angry. So now I'm one of the problems. I don't know how to resolve that.

I'm sorry you were abused. It needs to stop.

Vindicator

I do not confront people willy-nilly.

No, you target them.

Prove it.

I'm sure it was just a coincidence that gamepwn made this post and then felt he had to delete it after you decided to LARP as Donkey in his thread.

I'll betcha there are more people who are afraid of you and your crowd than little ol' me.

I don't have a "crowd" SWMBO. It's just me and and Eric here now. You know why? Because when I told Crensch that genuine contributors were afraid of him, he was shocked and immediately offered to step down for the good of the subverse. He was genuinely worried he was having a chilling effect on the research. It was a humble and gentlemanly act.

Look at how you have responded when I raised the exact same issue with you.

It's telling that you are terrified of being held to account, or that your speech has consequences.

I've stopped posting archives to your sub, maybe you could stop with the spying?

Nice try. You stopped archiving after Crensch banned Nomo, which was months after I told you we were archiving everything, right after the three-day DDoS outtage.

Here's the thing, when you abuse and use people, they tend to become abusive.

Right. You can keep projecting your own abusive behavior onto me. Dishonest shitheads have been trying those Alinsky tactics on me here since 2016. In vain. I will keep calling you out -- and anyone else I see trying to drive people away from this sub, just like I have always done.

It's become undeniably obvious you do not have good intent toward v/pizzagate .

shewhomustbeobeyed

I do not target people, I target submissions, show me the good post that i asked be removed, or the users i target. It's not my fault that the submissions I find are submitted by 99.97% qtards, and that makes it very easy for me to ridicule them, it is their weakness. But I can see how it appears I target certain people.

Did @gamepwn tell you it was because of that comment? If it was, then bravo for figuring our how to fix own problem without yelling for censorship. But I fail to see a larp. I meant to call out the jew. It needs to be done if we are ever going to get all of them with their dual citizenships deported. If it is the reason, then I am truly sorry for causing the extra work. I am starting to see the pattern you are leaving, let's label swmbo as a shill, along with ES and donqi. That way when you ban me you can keep telling yourself over and over that 'she was just a shill like the others'. You've been doing it for long enough now it is easy to see.

Isn't it nice that you get to see a human side of crensch. Too bad he couldn't have learned to be a gentleman sooner. I have degenerated into a snarky bitch when dealing with you and he, not going to argue that point. I was honest from the moment i found out you were archiving me that i didn't like it. Your response to my fear remains the same. Attack me because you refuse to admit that you have hurt me, and you refuse to STOP. some things don't change. I don't know how I'm supposed to react to finding out about things done behind my back, without my permission. It has made me angry for so very long now, I don't even realize it, until forced to think about it. I hate it. I have been singled out and TARGETED by you to have all my words saved, this means I don't get to be a normal user of Voat, you've made that an impossibility for me. You are correct that @nomochomo beiing banned is the straw that broke my back, not much left to keep me donating my time and resources, is there? doesn't change the fact that i have asked you to stop, and you have refused. Sounds just like what a victim of a crime might say, doesn't it?

I do not understand what my response to webby has to do with this? I told him what I thought of his threats and big talk on an earlier submission. I really am missing the accusation you're making. For the record, webby should have been banned for the additional doxxing he did on thotfull_criminal. My intentions have never changed, only tried to help where I saw need. You don't need. Our opinions are at opposite poles. I will not stop calling out stupid people, ever. If you really believe that I am a shill, then fix it.

I will tell you this now, while having a moment of less anger. I have always respected, admired and loved you all for what you've done here. I've waited for you people my whole life, God answered my prayers. Thank you for sticking with it.

When you decide to ban me have @erickaliberhall do it so I will get notification please. And don't forget to ban from PGWE, too.

I will continue to exercise my rights, until you strip them from me.

I am truly sorry that there is no repair to be made.

Vindicator

The dishonesty here is amazing.

I do not understand what my response to webby has to do with this? I told him what I thought of his threats and big talk on an earlier submission. I really am missing the accusation you're making. For the record, webby should have been banned

Yep. TWoS is banned. For doxxing and attempted doxxing. For posting malicious links. For spamming his own content. For trying to undermine the board, waste the time of mods and users and for using deception to try to weaponize researchers into acts against the media and law enforcement that would play into the "dangerous right-wing conspiracy theory" cabal narrative. AND YOU EGGED HIM ON AND INVITED HIM TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD.

"Webby should have been banned for doxxing" < =/= > "Hi there, webby. Do you have some links that I can look at? There are a few finders cult threads that some added info might help. FYI, crensch is no longer an owner of v/pizzagate . If you want to post to PG again you should petition the new owner to unban you....You could make a new alt and post your info without all the drama. Naw, who am I kidding. How's that lawsuit coming, btw?"

There's a name for this kind of weasely playing both sides. It's called pilpul. It's vicious and fundamentally dishonest. But not as dishonest as this fake victim routine:

I don't know how I'm supposed to react to finding out about things done behind my back, without my permission. It has made me angry for so very long now, I don't even realize it, until forced to think about it. I hate it. I have been singled out and TARGETED by you to have all my words saved, this means I don't get to be a normal user of Voat, you've made that an impossibility for me.

You take on yourself the heroic task of archiving people's sources, knowing that Media Matters, Podesta's lawyers, JIDF and God knows how many three letter agencies have from the beginning scrutinized this board and use our posts to scrub source material from the internet. You list all that source material under one username where it can be easily archived and viewed. After months of this, when users have grown lazy about archiving their sources themselves and we decide after a DDoS to start backing important things up in case Voat is taken down permanently or you decide to ragequit and delete your account making all those backup source links disappear, THEN you decide you are terrified and "don't get to be a normal Voat user". I call bullshit.

You have not been singled out or targeted. You know that is also complete bullshit. All my comments are saved. All Crensch's comments are saved. You yourself are constantly saving other people's speech in case they decide to scrub it, like the VOP videos! Rampant hypocrisy.

You claim you believe in free speech, but the only free speech you are interested in is consequent-free speech. And when you don't get it, when you don't like the consequences, you have a cowardly tantrum and go on a vendetta and justify it all because you're "hurt".

And when I point this out, instead of taking responsibility, you claim I'm framing you!

"I am starting to see the pattern you are leaving, let's label swmbo as a shill, along with ES and donqi. That way when you ban me you can keep telling yourself over and over that 'she was just a shill like the others'. You've been doing it for long enough now it is easy to see."

You've asked me to ban you numerous times, and never once have I taken the bait. When you managed to get Crensch to, I unbanned you. This fake martyr routine reminds me of that thing Donkey used to say...something about a victim crying out in pain while striking you.

"I will tell you this now, while having a moment of less anger. I have always respected, admired and loved you all for what you've done here. I've waited for you people my whole life, God answered my prayers. Thank you for sticking with it."

If this is true, start acting like it instead of shitting on people, making it harder for mods to teach people the submission rules, and nursing your grudge.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Wow, I forgot to put /s at the end of my response to webby. This is what happens when you look at things out of context, I promise you that webby knows I wasn't issuing an invitation. I am sick of the word heroic being used in association with me and my archives. I make them for my own personal use. I was trying to be generous by posting them, not hero. Once archive has been made there is no reason to have to post them anywhere, as long as they exist, there has never been a good reason to archive my comments. You can twist my words to make yourself feel better about what you've done, i can't stop you, and will never be able to keep up with your typing. I asked to be banned by crensch once, (not by you and not repeatedly) during srayzy departure because i couldn't trust myself to stay out of it if he didn't, i despise that witch for what she has done. I know you probably think this makes me your enemy, i don't care anymore.

You yourself are constantly saving other people's speech in case they decide to scrub it, like the VOP videos!

I don't know what this means. what VOP videos? I do not archive EVERY SINGLE COMMENT an INNOCENT PERSON makes on a website. I am unable to put words to the emotions this causes. Fear is the only word that comes out. But you've made it clear that it is my own fault for feeling like a victim and that you've done nothing wrong. My point is that since I no longer volunteer my time or resources to the PG sub anymore, maybe you could stop.

I have tried the best way I know to thank you for what you've done. I'm sorry you don't believe me, at this point i feel the same.

I will not be modifying my treatment of anyone i see as forum sliding, SCP & CCP farming, attention whores. Not now, not ever.

gamepwn

I did not tell anyone anything. I deleted it because I thought I was cluttering the forums with so many posts. I mentioned that publicly in my repost. Not apart of this.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Not accusing you, sorry. @Viindicator accused me of being the reason you deleted that submission. I just want to let you know that if you don't want me to comment on your posts, just say so.

Keep on with your mission, it;s awesome.

Thank you.

gamepwn

Comment freely she, I appreciate all the archiving you did for us and myself in the past and never saw you in a bad light. Although were you calling Howard or myself a fucking boomer? That I admit kind of pissed me off since I try to report on the many aspects of the pizzgate world, including Q since for better or worse. The way I see it is the more people we have redpilling the more exposure we bring to these sick fuckers.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Baby-boomer born 1945-1964, The first generation to be taught the difference between right and wrong, and then collectively, with a hive-like mentality, chose to be evil and rotten to the cores of their very souls (yes, there are a few exceptions). No way you are that old, or evil.

gamepwn

What? Yes I know what boomers are (most are good people. Just ignorant. I had to redpill my own parents and trust me the programming made them fight back.) Second so were you referring to Howard Stern as one? I have admitted Im in my 20s. Shit I used to do video logs for my old YT account thats non pg related called gamepwn. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3495005/21159192 I might do them again for Pizzagate just havent decided yet.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Stern is a boomer, yes i was refering to him and boomers and jews in that comment. Not you. I have only met a few good boomers in my life. The boomer women are exceptionally gross, with their camel-toes and pounds of make-up. I just threw up in my mouth a little thinking about them.

I don't know what the definition of a video log is. But if you do some on PG, I'm sure they will be good.

TheSpeaker2

Deleted, now fuck off.

shewhomustbeobeyed

Thank you. That was very prompt, and shows you have no ill intent.

fukU2 :D

fogdryer

Me neither

shewhomustbeobeyed

This has nothing to do with elite pedophilia, unless you're saying that don jr is a pedo. Please delete this so as not to slide this forum.