think-

There were two other Deutsche Bank employees who committed suicide - I remember one case, it was someone who left a bunch of papers next to his body, his son went to the FBI.

Iirc, he was also involved with giving loans to Trump - does anyone recall his name - thanks.

Meanwhile, I read the tweets about 'Epstein' and 'Bowers', and to me, it looks as if Thomas Paine tries to deflect from the Bowers - Trump connection.

Vindicator

That's the narrative they're pushing, all right.

think-

That the three bankers killed themselves is hardly 'pushing a narrative'.

And Paine has pushed disinfo in the past, he is hardly a reliable source.

He might be correct, or not. But he doesn't present evidence, just quotes unknown 'sources'.

Imo you should flair the post 'Accurancy' until he comes up with some proof.

Vindicator

Imo you should flair the post 'Accuracy' until he comes up with some proof.

I can see giving it an Unconfirmed flair, since the sources are anonymous. That's a good point.

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think-

Ok. I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, but he should have presented some evidence.

think-

Question: Could anyone have blackmailed him with his private Epstein connections (if he was indeed compromised - I don't trust Thomas Paine, he has published disinfo before), in order to get a loan f.i.

Like someone who had been rejected by other banks, but then got a loan from Deutsche bank....

Vindicator

You mean blackmailed Bowers because he laundered money for Epstein?

According to what I read, Deutsche Bank loved Epstein because he brought them so much business -- way more than they had to write off as bad debt when he was arrested.

I look at it a different way. I think Epstein was working for Deutsche Bank. I think they've always been part of the Cabal.

Don't forget, Epstein originally got his sweetheart deal from Acosta supposedly because he gave information about the 2009 financial crisis. If I'm remembering that right.

think-

Laundererd money for Epstein, and/or raped teenage girls on Epstein's properties.

I think Epstein was working for Deutsche Bank.

That's possible.

think-

Vindicator

Isn't it interesting that she did not look under any rocks to find and report on it? The woman who has made her career investigating Epstein. Now, why would that be? TP's story is all over Twitter if you search for "Bowers Epstein". All she had to do was confirm the lead herself with a few phone calls. But nope, all we get is her Cover-Your-Ass tweet.

They keep trying to pin Epstein to Trump, and they keep failing. If you search Twitter for "Thomas Bowers" you will see hundreds of tweets and retweets -- not on the obvious theme of Clinton Kill List -- but on Trump Kill List, which has never even been a thing. Look at this one: https://twitter.com/BoobPunchTina/status/1199698521563258880

think-

Isn't it interesting that she did not look under any rocks to find and report on it

She is currently busy writing a series for the Miami Herald about the abuse of prison inmates in Florida, so: no, not really imo.

And since noone = no credible source has confirmed what Thomas Paine writes, she might be hesitant to push the story.

think-

Why would he be on the Clinton Kill List, and why couldn't there be a Trump Kill List? It seems highly likely *'-s that Trump was involved in money laundering with Deutsche Bank, isn't.

They keep trying to pin Epstein to Trump, and they keep failing.

LOL. He is in Epstein's Black Book with 14 phone numbers, and Ivanka, Ivana and Melania with two each. Ivana used to socialize with sex trafficker and child rapist Ghislaine Maxwell.

He was a friend of Epstein, and knew what Epstein was doing, and he kept his mouth shut until they fell apart over a real estate deal. Then he retaliated, as usual.

Newly published pic of Trump with his arm around Ghislaine Maxwell's waist:

https://www . dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7752543/Donald-Trump-poses-Ghislaine-Maxwell-Heidi-Klums-hookers-pimps-themed-party.html

Amazing howö 3`Trump -supporters- have been playing dowön hi-s connection -s to child-sex trafficker-s and child rapi-st-s.

You could almost think they are not interested in taking down pedos, just in using pedo cases to bring down their politicial enemies. When it concerns Trump's creepy behaviour, or his pedo friends, or his pedo appointees, they turn a blind eye, and the silence is deafening.

Vindicator

Why would he be on the Clinton Kill List,

Really? The money guy the FBI was about to interview about Epstein? Who claimed to have started the Clinton Foundation. The Clintons, who both made numerous trips to his ranch and island?

why couldn't there be a Trump Kill List? It seems highly likely that Trump was involved in money laundering with Deutsche Bank.

Laundering money from what, exactly? Unlike Epstein, Trump actually creates businesses and sells products. He could launder his own money, were he so inclined, simply by buying nice sheets and gold toilet seats for his hotels. And if this money laundering evidence exists why haven't they used it against him? Why are they dicking around with fake whistleblowers and phoney "impeachment inquiries"? Why didn't they roll this stuff out in 2016, before he won? When have you ever heard, before now, any intimation that Trump murdered his enemies? Come on. I want to see some older articles on that.

Newly published pic of Trump with his arm around Ghislaine Maxwell's waist...Amazing how Trump supporters have been playing down his connections to child sex traffickers and child rapists. You could almost think they are not interested in taking down pedos, just in using pedo cases to bring down their politicial enemies. When it concerns Trump's creepy behaviour, or his pedo friends, or his pedo appointees, they turn a blind eye, and the silence is deafening.

Really? You call True Pundit disinfo and then post a hit job by the Daily Mail of a "newly discovered" pic taken five years before the first girl even went to the police against Epstein -- a tidbit the Mail conveniently neglected to mention -- from a tabloid that literally had to pay Melania $3 million for libeling her with fake news claims that she was a prostitute.

And then you have the gall to make the disgusting claim that pizzagaters who keep asking why, if there is any evidence Trump is involved in criminal activity with pedos, it hasn't been brought forward -- we're "not interested in taking down pedos".

Shitty, think-. Very, very shitty.

fogdryer

He was at little st James also. If the msn were to give attention to this then they couldn’t barrage trump. O my have time for

One. 😡

think-

Black is in Epstein's Little Black Book iirc, but not in the flight manifsts. He's an old buddy of Trump, and was the only one who felt like giving a loan to Kushner some years ago. (Fun fact - he went with Trump to Moscow on Trump's first trip to Russia, there are pics).

At the same time, he was very close to Epstein and even employed him as a manager of his foundation.

Further proof that there isn't such a thing as a strict globalists-nationalists devide (and Trump donated to the Clinton Foundation anyway, and invited them to his third wedding.)

I wonder whether someone can corroborate Thomas Paine's claims, since he unfortunately is not a reliable source and has posted disinfo in the past.

The anti-money laundering story is very funny. Deutsche Bank is infamous for their money laundering activities.

Imo the money laundering thing might be Trump's downfall one day.

Vindicator

Check out what I just added to OP about Deutsche Bank.

Also, there have apparently been a rash of banker suicides since Trump became president, similar to the rash of NYPD suicides.