shewhomustbeobeyed

Poppycock

think-

I nominate the post for 'bullshit post of the year'.

Please, by all means, OP, post stuff like this to another sub, like v/Conspiracy .

v/pizzagate is for serious research, and posts that respect our rules should not be slided down the thread by crap like this.

I'm not NOT amused.

Vigilia_Procuratio

This went downhill as soon as I posted the email and it got tagged by the mod. People have jumped ship and decided to ignore or refute the credible and sincere approach of my disclosure. That is incredibly frustrating and unfair.

Vindicator

While you may be sincere, Vigilia, you are certainly not credible. McCann was taken as a toddler. Where would she learn Morse Code? From her slavers? That one fragment of this story destroys it's credibility. Add on the fantastical "pheromone ESP" stuff and you have moved into the realm of mocking those who have spent years here documenting and researching the facts about the case.

I'm sorry you find challenges to your story frustrating. It is not, however, unfair.

If you have a look at the submission rules in the sidebar, you will note that we have two subverses -- one for serious research and one for indirectly related and/or purely speculative material. Rule 2 requires every major claim be supported by linked evidence. To satisfy that requirement, you would need to show that McCann knew Morse Code, that pheromones can traverse continents, etc. Obviously, that is not going to happen. By all rights, this submission could never qualify as a serious research post. Posting it here to the main board and expecting it to be treated as such is grossly selfish. It gets people's hopes up for McCann and then crushes them. It exploits people's good will to make them look like fools. It wastes their time and distracts them from real research. It subverts the purpose of this board.

Your expectation that the submission rules created by the community to protect all the research here not apply to you is what is unfair.

Please honor the mission of this research subverse by posting all future submissions that do not meet the standards of this board to our speculative sister-sub, v/pizzagatewhatever .

Vigilia_Procuratio

Did you delete my reply?

Vindicator

Thank you for clarifying, and for agreeing to honor our submission rules in the future.

I think there may be another explanation for your experiences you may want to look into. An aspect of mental health/illness that is almost always overlooked. If you can, I recommend a thorough read of Introduction to the Science of Mental Health by Chad Ripperger.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I shall take a look into that book, thank you.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

By their own words OP suffers from schizophrenia,

as the police simply believing it is a symptom of schizophrenia. Yes, I do suffer from such but I challenge the police force, or indeed a psychiatrist, to find another example of somebody experiencing what I am. Good luck. Yes, I have made calls in the past as a result of delusions because I was suffering from an undiagnosed condition and did not understand what I was going through, but ever since I realised that I suffer from a mental health condition I have clamped down on irrational behaviour as I realised I was becoming a liability. I acknowledge the errors of my ways in the past in dealing with my experiences. In any case, without regard as to my previous or current state of capacity, it is unprofessional to ignore serious intelligence and complaints regarding a high-profile missing person; it would be extremely foolish for the police to further ignore this.

Check your sources as they say...

Vigilia_Procuratio

Sorry, I think I misunderstood you.

I'm really not sure as to how truthful her information has been. She may have been bullshitting all along, she may even have been told what to say. I'm just providing for what she has said and my own knowledge of her.

She could indeed be switching between mentalities, but I'm no psychologist so I could only speculate as to her state of mind.

Vigilia_Procuratio

This has nothing to do with schizophrenia. It appears that yet again people jump with the mental illness option as soon as they realise that I suffer from something which is actually very common. It is wholly unfair and downright offensive.

I specifically brought this to the attention of the police as it is unlawful prejudice if of an official capacity.

I repeat, this is not on the part of affliction, these are genuine sensations and communications from a living person.

I expect nobody on this forum to believe a complete stranger, but I most certainly would expect the police and thus a court of law to exercise due attention to the details I have provided. Alas, this will never reach court and hence my going public.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

I give everyone the benefit of doubt @Vigilia_Procuratio . Like I said, I'm going along with this as mental exercise, if not because I want to believe you have genuine powers and intentions. I believe what you discuss, sounds ''crazy'' but is possible. However here we also have to entertain the possibility that you may be here to discredit our forum or this subject matter, and will therfore be scrutinized. You have to understand that starting a letter off with a statement about mental illness is a poor tactic at least, and a red herring at the worst. If you are telling the truth, eventually it will prevail.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I'm not here to discredit Voat. I'm a white hat, I vouch for freedom and health, not the suppression of such or the promotion of agendas against. When it comes to children, that is even more important. This is certainly an area which requires scrutiny, I understand that.

As for the letter, I've had contact with the police in the past so they're aware of my history. As in mental health that is, not crime. Thus, I had to reference it and make it clear that I'm experiencing something which has seemingly never before been documented.

Vigilia_Procuratio

..- .-. -.. . -..

siegnagel

This is one of the most retarded larps I've ever read in my life. Well done OP! Telepathic messages from a dead girl in ASDA. I usually just get my groceries there not contact from Madeline.

Vigilia_Procuratio

You say I'm full of shit, but evidently you're in the know as you say she's dead. How do you know that?

Vindicator

From around August/September I began to notice women reacting to a smell I have been giving off, particularly in pubs. I am not talking about a hygiene problem, I realised this was something else entirely. I eventually came to the conclusion that it is a pheromone. How I have come to give off an active pheromone I do not know, this is unheard of and it would probably require an endocrinologist to ascertain exactly what has occurred. It may be something to do with excessive tryptamine use between 2012-15, it could also be genetic. However it happened, that is the situation I now find myself in. I am in no position to identify this specific pheromone, but I do believe that it is a neurosteroid which acts as a potent aphrodisiac. I won't provide the direct links here in case I trigger the spam filter, but you may find these terms on Wikipedia, which are relevant to the release and detection of hormones related to mating...

  • Olfactory bulb
  • Vomeronasal organ
  • GnRH

On the 16th November I was sat in a pub alone and was pondering about this thing. I came to the conclusion that what I was experiencing is a form of telepathy, so I decided to give it a test. The first person I thought of to try this out on was Madeleine McCann. I closed my eyes, clasped my hands together, pictured Maddie in my mind, prayed to God that she's alive and knows Morse code, and said Amen. Lo-and-behold, I immediately got a very distinct smell. I made a link with her. I blinked hard at her, she blinked back. I blinked again, she blinked twice. I then blinked using Morse code

@darkknight111 I think we're being trolled. I am switching this flair to "Possible Disinfo" and leaving this up,, despite it being v/pizzagatewhatever material so that everyone can see what @Vigilia_Procuratio is doing.

Vigilia_Procuratio

A response would be greatly appreciated. I'd actually like the tag to be changed to "unverified", as what I have described is an honest testimony. I would never mislead anybody with regards to child trafficking.

I am an advocate, I am resistance.

Vindicator

See my reply elsewhere in the comments. This post does not meet our submission rules and belongs in our speculative subverse.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Thanks a bunch. Surely I've been here long enough to establish that I'm a sincere poster. Do you honestly believe that I'd involve three constabularies for no reason? If it was bullshit, I'd have been arrested by now and I haven't been. I'm being 100% honest. Heck, I'll even give you the link to my Facebook profile if it helps.

Angelis_Solaris

Long-distance smells..... I thought he was in contact with Maddy digitally, that's why I gave him a fair hearing....

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well whatever. There's nothing I can do to convince people on a forum. What I can do, however, is undertake a brain scan to show activity which would support my claim. I'm convinced that parts of the brain would light up, potentially showing Morse code. I obviously can't do that here, but I would challenge the authorities to it.

Angelis_Solaris

I'm not against you though. I recommend everyone judge what they read for themselves and come to their own conclusions, and based on my experience with mental health, it seems very delusional.

Vigilia_Procuratio

That's fair enough, I get it. But please bear in mind that there is simply no mistaking the smell of sex.

kazza64

do you want my opinion ? you're talking to a paedophile

Vigilia_Procuratio

You're right. I don't even know why I'm trying to help her. She's an adult now.

Angelis_Solaris

From your email:

"After 6 weeks we started to become close, we would often fall asleep together, feeling each other's warmth and breathing together. Prior to this I wouldn't get too comfortable with her due to her age, but we seemed to find solace in one another."

"Ever since I broke her off I have had no end of random females coming in. They have not left me alone ever since I departed from that two-month relationship, they are constantly making me smell sex. Most of the time a dog is involved. It has now developed into a situation where anal sex is going on - I can smell it, it is unmistakable. I cannot lie down at night without somebody being there; I cannot feel horny alone without somebody trying it on with me. Almost every single time, I can smell a female. It has not stopped in over a week."

"I have been questioned with regards to my mental health, which I interpret as the police simply believing it is a symptom of schizophrenia. Yes, I do suffer from such but I challenge the police force, or indeed a psychiatrist, to find another example of somebody experiencing what I am. Good luck. Yes, I have made calls in the past as a result of delusions because I was suffering from an undiagnosed condition and did not understand what I was going through, but ever since I realised that I suffer from a mental health condition I have clamped down on irrational behaviour as I realised I was becoming a liability."

Based on this information you've given, it strongly seems to me that your condition is resurging. I believe you need medicine. The process by which you are receiving instantaneous communication doesn't make sense as smells cannot operate in the way you've described----and you even admitted it was "unheard of" to be able to communicate by smell over long distances, and you're right. There's never been evidence of such I've ever encountered. Even polar bears' smell is limited by how fast particles move throughout the air, and brain disorders which affect smell and taste do exist and can be treated. Delusional beliefs never seem delusional to the person having them, until they are cured and can look back on what they've experienced with a clear mind.

NinaSparrow

Yea I didnt see a lot of this yesterday. But like OrdoTempli said.. I was also LARP'ing along. Did have hope, but I hadnt seen these emails yet either.

I believe he believes this is real, but so much to consider.

The brain is powerful beyond what we can comprehend, & if suffering from serious mental health like that, it can make u believe literally anything.

I have a friend who works in a mental health hospital & have heard stories of things crazier than this that people truly believe is going on.

I did have a shred of hope here.

Damn it.

Angelis_Solaris

Yeah, I've studied and heard of cases more bizarre than this. I'm pretty sure Madeleine is dead based on analysis of the parent's statements. If he does really believe this stuff and it's not trolling, I don't blame him. Delusions have limitless potential for what they can make you believe or assume. I noticed in his email many illogical assumptions were being made that were characteristic of delusional tendency to link things together that do not logically flow from each other.

NinaSparrow

Yea I just started watching that analysis about 15min ago. I'm already stunned. So many things I never caught before.

I also agree with what u said about OP & the email, etc. 100%

Vigilia_Procuratio

Find a case where a schizophrenic experiences the smell of sex as I have described, and then come back to me with your medical advice.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Somebody send the Army in and put a hollow point through their balls.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Bastards tried to get me involved as well.

darkknight111

As per this subverse’s rules (see side bar), you will need to put in a relevant link as per rule 2.

v/pizzagate rules regarding witness accounts get kinda murky. Which is a MASSIVE pain in the ass given this board could REALLY use them.

I believe the interpretation is that witness accounts auto cover rule 1, but just need a relevant link to the material connected to comply with rule 2.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3106485 Just copy pasta a link like this to the bottom of the thread’s body (with edit function) and you should be golden.

kestrel9

Claims of remotely channeling a Vulcan mind meld via pheromones and vomeronasal organ (VNO) across continents hardly counts as a witness account imho, more like a fantasy LARP or more likely in this case, something to do with self admitted mental illness. I'm not saying that mental illness should be the sole reason to be skeptical but it should be considered in evaluating the claims in the post (claims of remotely smelling and communicating with Madelaine McCann in coded messages and OP's claims of developing a one sided relationship with the underage perception, but to OP's credit, he claims he broke it off when she wanted to engage in bestiality and have him involved. http://archive.is/mAzSc

Vigilia_Procuratio

I agree, past history with a mental health disorder should certainly be taken into account. I won't deny that.

But as soon as I disclosed it I got attacked.

This is no fantasy. What I am experiencing is torrid and it's abhorrent. I could not possibly make this up, and nor would I push an agenda of such. To do so in Maddie's name would be an outrage.

I speak a truthful testimony, such that no public authority has ever been willing to hear. I have been systematically ignored by them. They are ignoring this because they know what happened to her.

kestrel9

past history with a mental health disorder should certainly be taken into account. I won't deny that.

nor would I push an agenda of such. To do so in Maddie's name would be an outrage.

Basically you've presented a situation where the most reasonable explanation is one of two scenarios, and in both, mental illness is the most relevant factor. There's really nothing more to discuss, people can either view you as a tortured soul experiencing a disturbing and abhorrent period in your life or they view you as someone who would troll the board with a story that exploits the image of Madelaine McCann in a very sick and outrageous account that only an unstable and abhorrent personality would find gratifying in any way. It's unreasonable to criticize people when they attribute one or the other reasons for your post.

Vigilia_Procuratio

The problem isn't that anybody is speculating about my well-being, it's the assertion. I find that extremely offensive, an attack on my person.

There is absolutely nothing gratifying whatsoever about what I have had to go through over the past few months. Yes, you are right, I'm a tortured soul now as a result of it; it terrifies me.

I've already made it very clear that I would never disrespect this board, any other outlet or indeed individual, which is advocating for the well-being of the victims of trafficking.

Make what you will of my testimony, I cannot make up other people's minds on the matter. But please do not insult me by suggesting it matter of fact that I am exploiting this subject, that it is purely on the part of mental instability or that I enjoy it.

I did this entirely as a result of a sense of duty.

kestrel9

please do not insult me by suggesting it matter of fact that I am exploiting this subject, that it is purely on the part of mental instability or that I enjoy it.

I just laid out the two most logical attributions that an average person will come away with from reading this thread. It's easier for me to take you at your word over the tortured soul scenario, if nothing else, due to benefit of the doubt, but I can't logically rule out the alternative. If you are seeking support, you can still discuss your experience on the other sub, as Vindicator kindly pointed out, but your experience does belong on this sub, there is not one claim that can be substantiated in regard to the identity and current circumstance of Madelaine McCann. You yourself have admitted that this person you believe is communicating with you may be untruthful, which leaves the possibility that, even if people take you at your word that you are communicating with someone remotely, that person could tell you they are the Queen of England and there would be no more 'evidence' to support it (though clearly your experience as you have described it relates to sexual abuse, your descriptions sound as if you are the one experiencing abuse, not some other person in another country).

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well, as I've said before I respect opinions and will not argue the toss about it.

I've got no issue with how the mods control where the content should live. I mean, I might disagree but rules are rules. That's not the issue here.

What is really bothering me is the attack on my mental capacity and the allegations that I am acting grossly.

As to the truthfulness of what she has told me, that doesn't distract from the necessity to report it.

I am not being, and have never been subjected to, the abuse that has been described.

kestrel9

That's fair. I do have a question, when you commented in morse code (here on the thread), who were you talking to?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I'm not sure, it was a subtle smell. I have made and received contact with many people since that first time reaching her in November (I had never even considered the possibility, let alone attempted it prior to that). At times I genuinely get confused as to who is firing at me. I know Maddie's smell so I will generally recognise her, but if the smell is subtle enough it's difficult to identify it. Note that everybody has their own unique smell and it gets stronger with age. So I may also mistake the smell for somebody of a similar age.

I'll also tell you this, and again I'm being absolutely honest here. Right or wrong about my interpretations as to the information I have received via Morse, there is no mistaking the smells. Last week I was rudely awoken in the early morning by the smell of gunpowder; subconsciously I became alarmed while not fully awake, and although I have never before smelled gunpowder (I'm English, we don't do guns here) I knew instantly that's what it was. Shortly after, I could smell the oily, metallic and powdery barrel of a gun. I ain't shitting you.

kestrel9

Was it a message received or sent?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Somebody sent it to me.

kestrel9

Why type it on the thread?

Have to leave may revisit this later.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Frustration. Making note of it for the viewers. It's not the first time I've received that exact Morse.

Vigilia_Procuratio

What do you mean? If I'm smelling a hormone and it's arriving as Morse, it's obviously being received by me. If I'm smelling a gun, then that's certainly somebody sending me a message.

Angelis_Solaris

He's either insane or this is trolling. I gave him a fair hearing but he blew it.

Vindicator

We usually add an "Unverified" flair to personal testimony that cannot be corroborated. If it can be corroborated, then no flair. I'll add a flair to this. Thanks DK.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Is that any good?

darkknight111

I see the link. You should be good in terms with subverse rules compliance.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Thank you, much obliged!

Vigilia_Procuratio

She's fucking a child.

Vigilia_Procuratio

She acknowledged.

rickman2

Is Maddie happier with her life now than she was before she went missing?

Vigilia_Procuratio

What kind of stupid question is that? She wasn't even four.

For what it's worth, though, I think she is actually happy doing what she's doing. It's her life, she's used to it.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I'm rather surprised that nobody has yet asked me where she currently is.

Saudi Arabia.

Bsgduifkdnsh

If Madeleine is able to respond then she is using abilities as well... Is this an accident or the result of some kind of conditioning

Vigilia_Procuratio

No, it's the result of me reaching her in the first place. Hitting a woman with this pheromone activates it and gives them the ability.

Angelis_Solaris

Sounds like an Orson Scott Card novel

EyeOfHorus

Does Israel have nuclear weapons? How many?

NinaSparrow

Does she mention what Kate has said to her? & how she is able to contact her?

Vigilia_Procuratio

No. I don't believe that she was cooperating with her, which I can understand.

Read through the thread for how, I'm not going to explain it in every reply.

NinaSparrow

My bad. I am refreshing every minute or so actually & I thought I had read them all.

I did see that post, just thought there may be more to it that u happened to know.

NinaSparrow

Jow did u ultimately figure out it was her? Did she tell u?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I explicitly reached out to her in a way which I, and probably nobody else, had never tried before. I got a response, and an SOS to boot.

She's very clearly currently involved in a paedophile network, which fits perfectly into her disappearing in the first place at such a young age.

She's not the only one I've contacted either. I won't name her, but I put Maddie in contact with somebody and they got talking.

FantomasSF

Is Madison Bounds actually Maddy McCain?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I have no idea who that is, and frankly she probably doesn't either.

Vigilia_Procuratio

She's not happy with me.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

What does she want?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I get the idea she's happy doing what she's doing, and is unhappy with me for speaking out about it.

Naturally, being involved in a paedophile network is no way to live one's life.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Trauma programs tend to get stuck in that feedback loop. Poor thing. What will save her will likely feel like her deepest fear, worst pain, and losing what she loves most, or finds peace in. Thank you for doing what you can to reorient her internal compass.

Have you looked into the various deprogramming methods? Tread lightly as there are usually "suicidal" tendencies / triggers placed near 'the truth' - like a self destruct mechanism.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I guess we could compare this with MK-Ultra. It's probably not too dissimilar, she certainly must be traumatised whether she realises it or not. We're clearly talking about persistent condition for one to believe that what they are involved in is perfectly normal behaviour.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

I would agree.

meowski

Welcome to the Internet. People with brains don't waste time on unsourced anonymous LARPS

Vigilia_Procuratio

This is no game. I'm also not anonymous due to the amount of information I have provided. They know my identity.

Sleuthing

Who is they?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Whoever they are. Clearly they are very high profile.

NinaSparrow

Idk how much u know or if u can say, but..

Is she, at the very least, being somewhat decently taken care of, in terms of food & shelter?

Or is it more like an utterly horrific "children kept in cages", satanic rituals, etc. type situation? 🥺🙏

Hmm.. I wonder if she means "G", as is George Soros? 🤔

Vigilia_Procuratio

Back in November when I first reached her, the first thing she sent me was an SOS and she was regularly sending it over the course of that day. Once she realised I was trying to help her, she stopped sending it. From the second day, she has not sent once since. She has not since suggested that she is in trouble, but I know that she is right now but she will not acknowledge it.

I don't think she eats a great deal, but I'm guessing that's down to her own choice. She does eat, yes, I regularly smell Middle Eastern food. But she hardly sleeps.

I am entirely confident that she is not being hurt, but she is being exploited no less.

No, it's not "G" for "George". I've asked her quite a few times why she would do what that network is telling her to do, and she would simply respond with "G". It's pretty obvious what that means.

NinaSparrow

Thank you.

You must be in close proximity to her, at least to smell middle eastern food? Right? Or did I read that wrong?

Stockholm syndrome is no joke, my God. It is amazing to know she is alive & at the same time horrifying to know she has likely been living in hell for 13yrs.

Thank you for your answer & for being here.

Vindicator

Nina, I think you are talking to someone trolling us. Where would McCann learn Morse code? She was abducted as a toddler. The guy openly admits to being schizophrenic. He is playing on your heartstrings.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Why should my being schizophrenic have any impact upon the credibility of my report? If on the part of an official capacity, that would amount to unlawful prejudice. I'm playing on nobody's feelings, I simply ain't that kind of guy. Without regards as to the factuality of it, what I have said is precisely what I have experienced for the past six months and has been presented honestly.

Attacking me for being affected by a very common condition is uncalled for.

Suggesting that I am acting nefariously has, quite frankly, deeply upset me.

Vindicator

Simply by claiming to offer information on the current status of a missing child plays on the heartstrings of pizzagate researchers, VP. You would have to be pretty narcissistic not to realize that. Many of the people on this board are survivors or friends of survivors. They identify keenly with abductees.

When people's emotions are triggered, they often lose critical thinking ability. This is a fact that shills have frequently taken advantage of on this board, posing as survivors to gain a following, only to distract people from useful lines of inquiry. James Alefantis himself had an account here which he used to try to keep people from investigating his disgusting pizza place and art venues. Cutting through LARPy BS is why we have Rule 2, which you ignored. So don't get all self-righteous about how upset you are for being called out. The reason we have so much excellent documentation of elite crimes against kids is because we vet stuff. Why should you be any different?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Fair enough, I understand how something so sensitive can affect people who have been through traumatic experiences. If I have caused hurt to anybody then I am sorry for that.

I'm not expecting to be treated any differently or for my posts to be excluded from the rules. I neither willingly nor knowingly ignored the rules; I submitted my experience sheerly out of abundance of necessity as I feel it is important to the cause itself and the individual of concern. I believed it was valid and reasonable.

There has been no attempt or intention by me to mislead, discredit or insult.

What actually happened here is that I snapped. I kept quiet about it for 6 months, but I couldn't take it any more; I had to talk about this. Please forgive me for being upset about my experience.

NinaSparrow

I started to get that inkling.. but some of the others here were biting so I had hope. Uhhhhh... thank u. I even asked why & how she learned it if she supposedly has very broken English.

Thank u for giving me a heads up here because I was really on the fence, but also trying to feel him out at the same time.

Vigilia_Procuratio

You read it wrong. It works instantly and remotely, anywhere in the world. No idea how it travels so fast, but we're talking about real-time communication no matter the distance.

We can smell what we're eating, smelling or any hormones we're giving off. That's how I know that she smokes cigarettes and takes drugs. Suffice to say, I can smell her having sex.

Yes, she's conditioned and seemingly doing what she's been used to doing since she was very young.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Am I understanding correctly, you can smell her due to proximity, yet you think they monitor her (thoughts?) from afar?

Neural link and brainwave monitoring is quite possible technologically, and reoccurs in the realms of MK Ultra and greater agenda to much not to be a handlers M.O. Does she believe this is the case?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Thoughts, no. At least I've got no reason to suspect that. It's about hormones.

They're not monitoring her, they're with her. She has company.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Copy that. I am glad you have 'higher contact' with her. You may be her lifeline.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Indeed. But I can't do this alone, which is precisely why I'm doing this. It's pretty clear that the authorities have no intention of helping her, as was the case 13 years ago and so it continues. The only option is thus forcible public disclosure.

NinaSparrow

Thank you..

My God :(

Samson134

Is she being forced to do horrible things to other kids.

Like Katy groves and a few other survivors were forced to do

Vigilia_Procuratio

I've never heard about Katy Groves before, but I have no suspicions in that respect.

Sexually, yes.

Doom4you

Why isn’t Maddy cooperating?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Stockholm Syndrome.

Angelis_Solaris

Much like what Katy Groves exhibits when she defends pedophiles and child abusers

ababcb

Was she taken because of her Coloboma ?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I'm not interested in any theories regarding adrenochrome. If that's what it was about, she'd probably be dead. Suffice to say, it was most likely to do with sex.

Believe what you want. What I believe is that it's her and that she's actively being exploited.

ababcb

I'm not talking about adrenochrome. There was a theory around 2016ish claiming she may have been taken due to the fact that she has the same genetic disorder as George Soros, who also has a Coloboma in his eye. You can see both maddies and soros' eyes here:

https://i.4pcdn.org/pol/1493823024841.jpg

Vigilia_Procuratio

I see. Seems you have done your own research on that, I don't know anything to this effect.

ababcb

Can you ask her?

Vigilia_Procuratio

She either doesn't know anything or she's not cooperating. She's being difficult at the moment because I'm publicly talking about it.

But... she certainly responded as I was spelling out "coloboma".

NinaSparrow

Can you say how she responded when you were spelling that out?

And can we assume it goes to the very highest of royalty? Or possibly the other royal who has a reputation for hanging out with well known traffickers?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well, let me just tell you that she's illiterate in English and speaks in abbreviations, so it's difficult for us to engage in a worthwhile conversation about stuff like this. We go by body language, as that's literally what it is. That is to say that I can judge her demeanour by her smells, as she can with me. I know that she doesn't want to talk and that I'm here posting about it (meaning she's not alone). In any case, I almost completed spelling out "coloboma" in Morse and she gave me a nod.

As for royalty, she has made mention of them a few times. Her by name, and her home as well.

NinaSparrow

Wow.

& I'm not so sure that's a home. More like a demons lair if u ask me.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Bear in mind her spelling is atrocious...

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NinaSparrow

Yea I'm curious how she learned how to code & why she would want to if she has such intense Stockholm syndrome.

I wonder, do u know if she is has DID? (Dissociative identity disorder)

Vigilia_Procuratio

Somewhere along the lines, she learned Morse code. Not all of it, she struggles with some of the letters, but she knew enough of it in advance to be able to communicate.

I don't know much about DID, that's a long Wikipedia page and too much for me to read right now. But I will tell you this...

She has a very good memory, enough to learn Morse and to remember a ridiculous amount of IATA codes. Whether or not she remembers much from her childhood I do not know, I've never probed her about that because I don't believe it would be prudent. She probably remembers a lot, though.

I can however assure based on experience with her that she is caught between her heart and mind; she is broken, but she has a good energy as well. This tells me that she is split.

NinaSparrow

Right. Yes that makes sense. I'm happy to hear she has a good energy at least.

Yea, I wondered if she had split personalities because of the age she was taken, the clear trauma done to her wouldve allowed her mind to split if she was capable of it & because of the Stockholm syndrome, yet learning morse code & then also reaching out.

I wouldnt doubt it for a second.

Uhhhh this is so heartwrenching!!!

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well, at least she communicates with me. I genuinely question her motives with me though, but I wonder if it's more them than her in that respect. I believe deep down she wants to break free from it.

NinaSparrow

Yes absolutely. That's very scary.

Although very good news that u feel she genuinely wants to break free.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I take that back, she's fucking again.

NinaSparrow

Jesus 🙏🥺

Vigilia_Procuratio

I keep disturbing her, it must be really pissing them off.

I have a strong suspicion that there's pay-per-view pornography going on.

Quite possibly even a blackmail industry.

NinaSparrow

Good God. This is utterly horrifying. Poor little girl.

Vigilia_Procuratio

She's doing my head in. But I seriously have to question just how much choice she has in the matter. There are children there.

SilentByAssociation

Are you working towards actively seeing a resolution to this, or are you simply monitoring the situation at the moment?

Vigilia_Procuratio

As I'm having a very hard time with people taking me seriously, the only thing I can really do is indeed monitor it.

Jabez

What is the nationality of “G”?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Global.

showbobandvagene

How are you contacting her if she is under the control of a network?

Angelis_Solaris

Are you sure it's her? What do you think about the statement analysis of the parents indicating guilty knowledge that Madeleine is dead?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I'm not aware of the parents exhibiting a guilty conscience. I'm most certainly not disputing it, but I would like you to provide a link for this. I know Kate refused to answer a series of question so they must have had something to hide.

In fact, let's take a look at this...

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article10269809.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/Tapas-seven-accept-libel-damages.jpg

What I see there are people who do not look as though they've just lost a 3-year-old member of their family. Frankly, it's as if they just got away with a bank robbery and can't contain their joy.

I actually believe that they wanted people to believe she's dead, without their explicitly acknowledging it.

Angelis_Solaris

Peter Hyatt did an analysis here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS6ucYudNAo

It's a 2-hour video

I'm glad that you're in contact with her, keep us posted

Vigilia_Procuratio

Okay, that's way too long for me to watch tonight.

Will do.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well, I have never seen or spoken to her. I have been in contact with her since November using Morse code. Given that I explicitly tested something which I had never, ever tried before, and did so with Maddie and that I got a very distinct response, I quickly concluded that it must be her. Given how the relationship has unfolded over the months, more specifically since February, I am therefore absolutely adamant that it is indeed her.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Is this auditory contact (taps on the wall) or more of an esoteric remote viewing type technique?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Yes, this is a form of remote viewing. I've never experienced hearing sound telepathically, in fact I don't even believe it would be possible over great distances. Somehow though, a pheromone can traverse the world in an instance and can carry smells with it which thus permits for sensory cues to be sensed remotely.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

I have heard certain elements contain non local (quantum) attributes. Gold, water, blood, and even what they used to use for purple dye :

Tyrian purple, also known as Tyrian red, Phoenician purple, royal purple, imperial purple or imperial dye, is a reddish-purple natural dye; the name Tyrian refers to Tyre, Lebanon. It is a secretion produced by several species of predatory sea snails in the family Muricidae , rock snails originally known by the name Murex.Wikipedia


... If that helps explain the phenomena you are possibly experiencing.

Vigilia_Procuratio

That doesn't really explain much to me, no. I've never been much into that side of science, as interesting as it is.

Jabez

Will she be able to send a picture of her as confirmation?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Like hell will she. She won't even phone me.

showbobandvagene

Has she been let free, escaped or still captive?

How have you managed to be in contact with her?

Vigilia_Procuratio

She was rescued alone in an African city in November. She has since fallen back into the hands of a network.

Pheromones.

Jabez

What African city?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Mainé-Soroa.

showbobandvagene

Pheromones? As in scent tracking?

Explain some more.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Not tracking, no. I'm not sure if that's even possible.

I'm talking about firing a pheromone at a woman, a neurosteroid, which activates the vomeronasal organ and thus allowing for an exchange of pheromones between two or more people in a manner which I can only describe as hormonal telepathy .

NinaSparrow

How did u figure out how u two were able to communicate via pheromones and what all that was about?

I wouldve probably just thought I was losing my mind ;)

Vigilia_Procuratio

I began to notice women reacting to a smell around me. It's not about hygiene, as I could be perfectly clean; I was giving something off. I started to notice that they were becoming aroused by this smell, so I began to experiment. I would see a woman at the bar in a pub with her back to me and in my own head I'd get horny with her - then she'd suddenly begin to flirt and turn to look at me with sex eyes without even noticing me prior. This became a regular pattern and I eventually started to explicitly get women horny as fuck in pubs. There have been countless times when I have literally mind-fucked women in pubs, I'm talking about lewd behaviour. Seriously, they love it.

So I established that it's a pheromone and a potent aphrodisiac. I questioned whether this is a form of telepathy because I was clearly giving off sexual cues, and thus how far it could potentially travel.

So I tested it out, I prayed of Maddie, picturing her in my mind and looking into her eyes. She responded.

NinaSparrow

Damn.

showbobandvagene

Thats a fairly "out there" answer.

Keep going, `show us one more level.

Vigilia_Procuratio

It's unheard of, but it's very fucking real.

showbobandvagene

How does it work?

As in, how do you apply this skill? is it like lucid dreaming?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Well, how it came to happen I can only speculate because, as I said, it's unheard of. It's either due to excessive tryptamine usage or somebody activated me; I suspect the former. Clearly, I began to give off a steroid which I realised was affecting women, it's an aphrodisiac.

It's not about thoughts, it's about pheromones... so that's smell. We communicate by firing smells at one another.

kestrel9

In terms of subjective effects, psychedelic tryptamines are generally regarded as producing a significantly stronger and "deeper" psychedelic effect than the other major class of psychedelics, the substituted phenethylamines (e.g. mescaline or the 2C-x family). Users tend to report greater amounts of ego dissolution, time distortion, conceptual thinking, and transpersonal effects such as unity and interconnectedness with substituted tryptamines. The reason for this is unknown. The subcategory of hallucinogens known as entheogens predominantly consist of tryptamines such as DMT (including ayahuasca), 5-MeO-DMT, and psilocybin.

You are doing a disservice on this board.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Who, me? How am I?

kestrel9

By claiming to know that one of the many impressions/personalities/odors you say you are/have been experiencing is Madelaine McCann pheromonally communicating with you about having sex with animals and that you believe it is not because you are mentally ill.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Of course I believe it. I've reasonably explained what is occurring and what controls it. This isn't even about tryptamines, it's obvious to me that we're dealing with a primal functioning of the endocrine system.

kestrel9

Here is research that may interest you (larp or no larp)

https://academic.oup.com/chemse/article/26/4/433/266106

There is nothing in your account that supports your impression that it is Madelaine McCann and because of that, the premise of your post is a distortion. You don't have intel but you have your account of what you are experiencing and how you have interpreted such. You admit to having schizophrenia (which also can cause distortions/unusual sense of smell/ or olfactory hallucinations). Seeing something in the news can trigger a line of thinking that can become it's own perceptual reality. I'm not criticizing you for what you are experiencing, but you sound like you have the intellect to admit that everything you you've described in this story is one sided. Is there any point in what you've said where you actually have had a live person physically (not telepathically) with you, or are ALL the people you describe here residing in your awareness telepathically?

Why do you think Madelaine McCann's name is the first one to come to mind and why would you assume blinking your eyes in morse code is proof of contact? Why didn't you pray that any name you decided to invoke would know how to peel an onion properly? /s

You do a disservice by not honestly acknowledging that it's more likely that you are experiencing olfactory hallucinations and other sensations due to your history of mental illness, and even if that was not so, the conclusion you have drawn (that you are remotely communicating with Madelaine McCann) resides nowhere else except in your thinking.

You say 'it's obvious' to you what's happening, while ignoring what's obvious to anyone who has read your writing.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Yes, it's one-sided because there's absolutely no way I can prove it here without undertaking and providing evidence of brain scans.

But it is Intel, she has provided me with information, be it factual or not on her part.

As for olfactory hallucinations, I'm not talking about passing smells, this is a case of communicating via such using Morse, and distinctively smelling female hormones. I can smell her smoke, I can smell the drugs up her nose.

Why in God's name would I trick myself into believing that after six months of talking to said person sentiently and purposefully?

And yes, I have experienced it with people in the immediate vicinity. Tried and tested, it gets women horns as it's an aphrodisiac.

kestrel9

Why in God's name would I trick myself into believing that after six months of talking to said person sentiently and purposefully, that it is not true?

You wouldn't.

kestrel9

Brain scans will not prove anything. You can't prove you are remotely contacting someone in another country without actually there being a living person to confirm your story (which I don't believe there is)

Why did you pray to contact Madelaine McCann and for her to know morse code?

Vigilia_Procuratio

How would it not? Sure a neurologist and endocrinologist would take one look at brain activity showing Morse as unheard of and worthy of intense investigation.

Morse is the only feasible way to articulately communicate in this manner. Body language alone is not enough.

How she already knew Morse I do not know, but it's worth keeping in mind that my prayer was spur of the moment and the response was instant.

Angelis_Solaris

Yes but that would mean you would have to be in the same house as Madeleine, as smells are simply molecules that spread slowly throughout the air. Our noses are molecule detectors hence why dogs can track by scent and thus machines can be made to do the same.

Vigilia_Procuratio

I don't know how to explain it. I could go into the endocrinology, but that concerns how one's own body gives off and detects hormones. How exactly it can travel across the world in a split second is beyond my comprehension. We're possibly talking about teleportation, and I'm not exaggerating. We would probably require a rocket surgeon to understand it.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Considering this pheromone has a physical essence as well as a metaphysical one, quantum entanglement is theoretically possible. As you explained, if they were using her for something purely physical (adrenochrome) she would be 'gone' after this physical essence was drained - perhaps there is a non physical essence, and she is still being "farmed." This doesn't have to be energy vampirism either, but perhaps purely being used for sex. They just seem more esoterically driven than your normal run of the mill predators.

Vigilia_Procuratio

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3810701/23741842

The thing is, there's hardly any decent information about adrenochrome so I've never really understood much about it beyond it probably being a steroid. Having said that, it could even be adrenochrome that we're using to communicate with.

I absolutely believe that the main motive with Maddie is sexual. I know from experience.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Yes, similar. Stimulant with psychedelic attributes much like DMT from my understanding. According to THEM all of these physical things, sex, coloboma, fear, adrenalized blood, emit an essence that could be beyond the physical spectrum, energetic, and therefore potentially used as such. May we ask what you "know from experience" ?

Thank you...

Vigilia_Procuratio

Funnily enough, this ability seemingly stems from my dabbling with what was a legal high and is now a Class A substance. Alpha-MethylTryptamine - I took an absolute shit-load of it. Or I've got some kind of genetic disposition which allows me to do this thing. Or both.

She was fine for three months from when I first made contact with her, then shit started to happen out of the blue in February. She literally hasn't stopped fucking since then, it's driving me round the bend.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Do you make conscious contact in meditation or are you two psychically attached all the time and it just streams in?

Vigilia_Procuratio

It's constant, without any specific action. We can always smell and feel each other, so long as our middle eye is opened as this opens a valve which allows for the pheromone to be released.

For the record, I no longer take drugs.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Can you see a cord? I pray you are not of the sympathetic frequency due to similar life experience, but a connection you made via your gift and intent to help.

Vigilia_Procuratio

That went over my head, you'll have to elaborate.

Angelis_Solaris

Maybe it has something to do with non-covalent bonds and virtual photons. The molecules in our cells communicate with each other at the speed of light via non-covalent interactions. It's a dance of a complexity beyond the ability of human scientists to really grasp.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Interesting. I'll have to research that tomorrow. Whatever it is, it must be on the atomic level. I can absolutely understand what you're saying about the speed of light because the communication is in real time.

AllDancingCrap

I think I understand what you mean. I have experienced something similar before. I can usually tell when a lady is in her period, ovulating or sexually active based on an specific scent(I know because I ask to confirm and they stay baffled thinking I am a weirdo or a creep which maybe I'm the first but not the second). It does not happen with every woman tho, but with the ones that happen I feel more attracted to, sexually talking at least. Some ladies have told me the same about my scent which I cannot actually perceive. How did you get that close to Mad?

Jabez

Did her parents receive a monetary reward for her?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Are you querying whether they sold her? It certainly ought be an avenue for investigation.

Jabez

Yes it was clear in the interviews that they did not disclose everything

Vigilia_Procuratio

This is something which really irks me. Why would Kate not answer any questions? Surely, refusing to cooperate with an investigation in what was very clearly a serious crime against a child is reason enough to be prosecuted, yet nobody has ever been brought before a court. I'm certainly inclined to believe they know far more about what happened than they've let on to.

Jabez

Yes I agree as a parent you would’ve shared every single detail in order to find her unless you are a part of the crime

Vigilia_Procuratio

I concur. And they have not once reached out to me, which is extremely telling.

Jabez

Will it be made public soon that she is alive?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Not per the British press, I strongly suspect that there is a gag in place.

If it goes public, it'll most likely be from a foreign nation.

Sleuthing

I’d bet we never hear anything about her being h rescued in the media and that nothing ever comes of this. You say you know but you aren’t doing anything about it. Who will?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I have tried. Nobody who can do anything, will do anything. I'm of no authority to go get her.

Jabez

Are there other children with her?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Affirmative.

Samson134

Ok I'll bite.

Was she trafficked?

Are you one of her captors?

Are you or were you in on it with the parents?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Given her current situation, it is abundantly clear that she was, indeed, trafficked.

No, I never have been and never will be involved in the trafficking of women and children.

I have only recently become involved with her.

I have tried to get her help, Leicestershire Police and Scotland Yard have both been pinged. No joy.

Samson134

Thanks for answering and sorry for asking that about you.

I am so curious how you got in contact but I know I can't know

I hope she knows the world never gave up on her

Her parents should hang and I doubt UK police will be any good they have a big hand in this.

that poor girl

Vigilia_Procuratio

Don't you worry about it, I brought this up for people to ask.

Maddie is always in people's prayers. While there will be many good hearts within governmental circles, they have badly let her down.

As for the police, I highly doubt that they've had any part in this. If anything, their hands are tied because they've sworn an oath. I actually feel sorry them.

Suggesting that of her parents is a bit too far in my opinion. They should certainly face court and, thus, potentially jail.

Jabez

How high up in the British Government does the cover-up go? Any royalty involved?

Vigilia_Procuratio

She named her.

Vigilia_Procuratio

She's responding.

Jabez

Will she be able to connect with her family? Is her life in danger? By whom is she held captive? What country is she in? Are her parents aware that she is alive?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Yes, she can. She knows how to and so does Kate. Her family are aware, but so far there has been no word from them publicly.

She claimed that she was in the United Arab Emirates until about a week ago. She is now seemingly in Saudi Arabia, possibly near Bahrain.

As to who is keeping her, I again make reference to her mentioning "G" multiple times.

Orangeel2112

Wasn't Tony and John Podesta visiting their pervert friend the Prince and staying at a villa right down the street from where she was abducted? Then the wanted sketch that looked like them.

Vigilia_Procuratio

Unknown. Clearly though, the sketches do indeed remarkably resemble the Podestas, as well as Maxwell.

I guess the "villa" you refer to is Freud's mansion. In my opinion, that is beyond coincidence.

But I have no specific intelligence for this.

Jabez

Is Maddie physically and emotionally well?

Vigilia_Procuratio

Negatory.

Vigilia_Procuratio

.. -- .

She doesn't know "F" in Morse, so she uses "E". She said, "I'm fine".

Negatory.

Jabez

Is/Was her parents involved?

Vigilia_Procuratio

She has mentioned the letter "G" many times. Make of that what you will.

Her mother has been involved while I have been. Still no word from them publicly, though.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

G = Freemason ?

NinaSparrow

Great catch!!

Vigilia_Procuratio

Who else?

Angelis_Solaris

What do you mean by "her mother has been involved while I have been"?

Vigilia_Procuratio

I made contact with Maddie in November. At some point, Kate must have caught wind because on New Year's Eve, she reached her. Maddie was seemingly uncooperative and a few days later Kate reached me.

Angelis_Solaris

But you said "I concur. And they have not once reached out to me, which is extremely telling." What do you mean by Kate reached you?

Vigilia_Procuratio

When I first reached Maddie and she was hitting me with repeated SOS, I hit Kate with one and I got a nod out of her. I heard nothing from her since then (November) until the New Year when she managed to reach Maddie. She wouldn't talk to her mom, so she reached me instead and I responded by doing something which I won't go into for privacy reasons. So, we've were in contact briefly but never got chatting. In other words, she knows about this but there has been no public statement and nobody, be it Kate or anybody else, has ever spoken to me about it.

Vigilia_Procuratio

This is disclosure, people. Come on, talk to me.

maaaxheadroom

What’s the plan for getting her to safety and freedom?

Vigilia_Procuratio

This. It's the only thing I can do because neither Madeleine herself and nor the authorities are cooperating.