rickman2

I still want to know why the father Maccoby was so aggressive and insistent that Alefantis be allowed to keep Comet open late.

Piscina

Anneke Lucas has said she will not give the names of her abusers. I can totally understand her reticence. However, I cannot feel sorry for people like Maccoby who know what's going on but won't tell someone, anyone, even anonymously. If people know, they should be speaking up.

Heisenberg123

Thank you for this comment. I agree with you. Also she admits to me she's smoking pot and she doesn't have much money. 100% agree that we shouldn't tak her word for anything on Pizzagate topic. No one normal with morals will justify Alefantis suspicious pattern of behavior. So either she is innocent and rejected all the findings about it without researching them or she knows something about Alefantis being pedo and she is indeed partially responsible for this situation.

MercurysBall2

So have you asked your friend Nora about the Alefantis family at all? Questions like, is the Alefantis family CIA too?

Why was James Alefantis, pizza guy, listed as one of the most influential men in Washington?

Is there anybody here who ISN'T CIA? It's quite clear to me her brain has been scrambled. Ever notice in CIA families with a number of siblings there is always at least one who ends up in the arts and is on the loopy side?

Ask about his brother who works in the software industry for a company wjich specializes in spyware.

Ask about the cousin that is a vaccine scientist who works at Sanofi.

Or about his father who has a mysterious construction company which was based in the meat packing district of NY with some interesting clientelle.

Basically describing her friend Aaron Cohen who supposedly is dismantling underage sex slave ops...

Hahahaha. Here are some excerpts from that Guardian article, yeah the Guardian... rolls eyes.. :

Aaron Cohen travels the world, rescuing girls sold into prostitution.

Uhm, is this prostitution, or is this trafficking? Make up your mind Carole and stop conflating two issues..

I don't know where to even start with Aaron Cohen. With his day job, springing imprisoned girls out of brothels? With his past life as a heroin addict? Or the fact that he used to be on the payroll of alternative-rock band Jane's Addiction, his job description hovering somewhere between "manager" and "spiritual guru"?

Come on people, can't you spot a CIA resume by now?

Or that both Steven Spielberg and Oliver Stone have been vying to buy the rights to his book Slave Hunter: One Man's Global Quest to Free Victims of Human Trafficking, and turn his life into a film?

Spielberg people. Spielberg.

I can't help thinking that if he'd been born in a different time, he might have been mistaken for a prophet.

Pass me the sick bag.

it's a long and twisting story, taking in a water-polo scholarship to Pepperdine University in Malibu, the discovery of the punk grunge scene in downtown LA and the entirely flukish circumstances that led him into Perry Farrell's orbit: Jane's Addiction was looking for a writer to collaborate on a project, and the band's manager read in the local paper that Cohen had won a fiction competition and got in touch...

Cohen lived the rock'n'roll lifestyle. And not any old rock'n'roll lifestyle. Jane's Addiction were notoriously wild drugged-up exhibitionists. The first time he saw them performing, Perry Farrell appeared on stage naked covered in blood...

And they approached Perry and said: 'Can you recruit musicians for this Drop the Debt campaign?' And I was Perry's executive director, so the request came through me, and I just thought: 'Wow, this is a divine miracle!' So we pulled out Perry's Rolodex and contacted David Bowie and Bono and all these people, and they all came on board."

Bono people, Bono. Some remarks on Jane's Addiction below.

The long and the short of it is you cannot trust anything Nora Maccoby says to you.

Heisenberg123

Thank you. I will try to use questions you have proposed. There's indeed not much reason to trust her.

MercurysBall2

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane%27s_Addiction

Jane's Addiction is an American rock band from Los Angeles, formed in 1985. The band consists of vocalist Perry Farrell, guitarist Dave Navarro, drummer Stephen Perkins and bassist Chris Chaney.

Perry Farrell https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Farrell

Perry Farrell (born Peretz Bernstein; March 29, 1959).. Farrell continues to produce Lollapalooza with partners William Morris Agency and C3 Presents. Farrell has also led the alternative rock groups Porno for Pyros and Satellite Party.

https://imgur.com/a/S9JpyRc Nothing's Shocking is the first major-label studio album by the American rock band Jane's Addiction

https://imgur.com/a/DmMV2ig Ritual de lo habitual is the second studio album[5] by Jane's Addiction, released on August 21, 1990, by Warner Brothers

Some of our William Morris posts here: https://searchvoat.co/?st=comments&t=%22william+morris+agency%22&b=on

MercurysBall2

Her friend Robert David Steele said a while back that us pizzagate researchers didn't know what we were doing and dismissed us. Well, here we are a couple of years later, still here and even now driving the media narrative. He's had to adjust his position and alter what he says quite considerably to flow with the public tide. I've got that arrogant arsehole's number.

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Beyond duality, between form and formlessness, science, and the math of dimensions and consciousness, identity exists in a vast cosmos. It grows and travels through the geometry of matter, color, shape.

– Nora Maccoby

HERE'S HER ART

http://noramaccoby.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/map3-1-rotated.jpg

http://noramaccoby.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/kieran-1027x2048.jpg

http://noramaccoby.com/selected-exhibitions/

https://web.archive.org/web/20191217091226/http://noramaccoby.com/

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

Dr. Maccoby

In this rare video above, Nora Maccoby told the world that she was born in Mexico. She told the world about the CIA, her upbringing and neighborhood of the CIA.

In June 1960, Dr. Maccoby received a PhD from Harvard in Social Relations. Dr. Henry Alexander Murray was a central figure in Harvard’s interdisciplinary Department of Social Relations. He retired from Harvard in 1962.[15] Who is Dr. Henry Murray? Psychologist Dr. Henry Alexander Murray (May 13, 1893 – June 23, 1988) of Harvard University was the CIA’s preeminent elder statesman. During World War II, he left Harvard as the director of the Harvard Psychological Clinic to join the Office of Strategic Services (OSS) as a lieutenant colonel. For Allied Forces, particular America and Britain, Dr. Murray developed special psychological assessment tests to recruit and select secret agents.[16] He joined with the Schools and Training Branch of the OSS to write an entire book about the recruitment of special agents called Assessment of Men. The title was later changed to Selection of Personnel for Clandestine Operations: Assessment of Men.[17]

https://rielpolitik.com/2017/02/22/secret-societies-the-black-circle-set-of-the-horned-god-part-1/

ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS

http://www.innocentsatrisk.org/wp-content/uploads/Innocents-at-Risk-flyer-2020-3.jpg

http://www.innocentsatrisk.org/wp-content/uploads/brochure1.jpg

Innocents at Risk is a child-advocacy non-for-profit 501 (c)(3) organization established to fight human trafficking by raising awareness and educating about this problem among the international and diplomatic community, the corporate sector, students in public schools and universities and among the general public. We also work with flight attendants, who are our first line of defense in spotting and reporting traffickers. We are dedicated to protecting children from all forms of abuse, and work to end child exploitation and child trafficking everywhere.

https://www.guidestar.org/profile/16-1722439

Yuke

Denying Pizzagate is "real" is easy for these people because to them that means only one thing: the media version that said Hillary Clinton was traffficking kids out of Comet's basement, which we all (should) know, isn't or wasn't ever accurate. They can deny it on those grounds easily. Pizzagate, to the MSM, is fraudulent because their associates helped perpetuate the most ludicrous version of this story in order to destroy its credibility. If there was never any basement to begin with then the whole story unravels. Or at least, that's how they sell it. It was never about a basement, but it was about a venue.

21yearsofdigging

Oh shit they know it isn't about Hitlary in the basement. They KNOW. Regarding Nora I think she hasD.I.D and yes, swings in and out of alters and really may not even know it

Heisenberg123

Yeah, they never cared to localize the killroom and people connected to this "thing" to begin with, they just bought James story.

Yuke

I don't believe the "killroom" thing either, or at least, not as it was presented to us all (as a cool room used to kill people in, mysteriously located somewhere). I have a little more on that "killroom" image, something that I know would set fire to this sub and send everyone crazy, but it's not something I believe to be what it looks like it is, so I haven't shared that thus far because I only ever want to share what I believe is factual findings.

3141592653

Please share

Heisenberg123

You should definitely share it tho. I believe otherwise - I think all the people whos pattern of behavior was suspicious were connected to killroom "thing" and even the guy creating child sized coffin like constructions named its project like that "killroom". That's just my own take.

Yuke

Oh I certainly believe that they were all involved in something, and something centred on that location/people. But I don't believe that image of the "killroom" was anything more than a typical restaurant cooler, from what else I've seen, anyway. But yeah, the fact that two of the main guys involved spread from DC to Portland and San Diego, at roughly the same time seems very suspicious.

plancktonne

Is there anyone on the pizzagate sub or does anyone here know someone specializing in commercial refrigeration that could comment on whether the "kill room" is in fact a typical restaurant cooler. It looks to me more of a mobile truck outfitted with modified air conditioners. Or is it from a foreign country?

Yuke

Yes it is typical, those kinds of things were looked into heavily when it all started, and I believe it is actually the cooler of a nearby restaurant, someone Alefantis is friends with.

3141592653

What to make of all of this??

Heisenberg123

Good question. I would ask myself this question. Why does woman so close to the core of Pizzagate allegations knows ( since 90s! ) alleged victim of satanic ritual abuse in European/Belgium ring of influential people. Why did Steele said that Pizzagaters got false leads on Maccoby family, why is he talking about satanic ritual abuse in this weird, almost freemason like event, why is he close to Nora Maccoby, why did she allowed her art to be on this book about satanic pedophilia?

I don't know what to make of this finally but I find it very interesting that those additional findings can be made so close to core of Pizzagate allegations.

Truthseeker3000

That convo is something else. Why is she dishing to a random person on IG? The question is HOW did she ever end up meeting Anneke? I know Anneke was in the US in the 90s but I can only think of the dead American who abused, raped and had her sent to a German MK Ultra lab for a couple months as being the gateway to people in the US. Also not to forget he brought her into his homes in NY and Maine for months at 9 to 11 years old.

Heisenberg123

I have no idea why she says these things to me, I've just asked after new Mouthy Buddha documentary why she shared her art on that book but conversation became more interesting. Needed to share as fast as possible in case something will happen to my account and I won't have access to conversation anymore.

Truthseeker3000

I don’t see any edit where you asked her about Anneke. I’m confused...

Heisenberg123

Vindicator

Great review and recap thread. The Haiti earthquake shit is what originally brought me to this board in 2016. @Heisenberg123 , can you add the links to archives of the Instagram comments from Maccoby about Lucas that you included screencaps of? Those can be faked. This post would be stronger with the actual links.

Heisenberg123

This is basically conversation of me with her and when I try to add archive it doesn't work. But I've done screenshot of whole conversation page and just added it.

Vindicator

Cool, thanks. :-)

i_scream_trucks

whats with all the double barreled names

slibo

Yes? Noted??

MolochHunter

@i_scream_trucks

progressive women

dont want to yield their surname in marriage bc 'patriarchy'